or as a war, and it doesn't stop there a few months after the 911 attacks in the us. then president bush gave a speech in which he warned about the danger of what he called the axis of evil, us to north korea, or ron and a rock 3 countries. washington accused of harboring financing and eating terrace. that label was revived once again last week by is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu, as you warned about a new access comprised over rot hotspot and her moss. this is a part of an axis of evil, of what you're on and if it's bala and from us, the gold open goal is to eradicate the state of israel. the open goal of how mazda is to kill as many jews as they could, and the only differences they would have killed every last one of us murdered every last one of us. if they could, given that israel is invoking the language used by the us in the aftermath of 911,

it seems to be fit that one president biden visited. tell of the last week. you want israel to avoid repeating the mistakes that you asked me and it's response to $911.00. justice must be done. of course you this while you feel that rage don't be consumed by after 911, we were in raising the united states. while we saw it just as a got us, we also made mistakes while vitamins and elaborate on what exactly those mistakes were. we are left your question whether they included the ground invasions of iraq and afghanistan. the resulted in 2 jackets of jazz destruction and war that has impacted millions of civilians. the claim of weapons of mass destruction in iraq was used as a rallying cry by the bush administration when it launched a full scale invasion without approval from the un security council. israel's claim to come off is planning to use. chemical weapons is already

a craving concert that it will be used to drum up support for their expected ground invasion of cause a method of what the u. s. did 2 decades ago for up to the minute updates on the war in the middle east, head over to r t dot tom. we've got you covered there with headlines from around the world as well. i'm next on the notice up rhonda i host miller chan discusses with her guess the events that led to to become us attack on israel and the sacrament for the hello. i'm manila chan you are tuned into modus operandi. a reason attacked into israel, proffer by how most fighters are re ignited an age is long battle, dividing the world into 2 camps, those supporting israel and those support in palestine. but it's

a conflict really that binary or is the nuance behind it all really? what should be discussed today will break down the humanitarian disaster. that is garza that could only white it as outside intervention steps in and explore aspects that the main stream media won't discuss. all right, let's get into the hello the, depending on the lenses where you will either see a david and goliath story and gaza, or a surprised terrorist attack into it's peaceful neighbour of israel. it seems the world is divided on this much in the same way. it was over ukraine. there's debate over intelligence failures outside 3rd party funding or planning, who backed home and the over simplification of good versus evil. there is even as

much a media and messaging war as there is physical violence. when discussing the conflict between israel and loss, and one important distinction that must be made immediately, is that how mazda is not a country, rather a political faction along the palestinian population, primarily in the gaza strip. that was a counter wait or opposition party to the westbank spots our ruling party in the palestinian parliamentary system. so when israel says they are fighting him us, it's because they have labeled him off a terror organization. so what effect then? israel declaration of war against him. us is a declaration of war on terror. you may remember the same declaration made by george w bush after 911. in fact, over and over. we've heard, as rarely, officials declared this there 911. borrowing the same bush era, nebulous rhetoric, bins, artist. so for more on this, we will turn to san jose ne,

an independent journalist who has been covering this topic for many years. you can see more of sam's work by going to who seine dot sub stack dot com. sam, thank you so much for joining me. first. let's address the events that unfolded on october 7th, which sparked this volley of violence thereafter. how did, how los manage this incursion into israel proper, including your parent gliding into this music festival, where many party goers were killed, i mean, isn't as rarely, airspace and, and their territory just about as heavily surveilled and monitored. i mean, comparable to the airspace here in washington dc. i mean was this a massive intelligence failure? but a couple of questions there. um, 1st off on hang gliding. i haven't heard anybody note. and i've heard stories that

the 1st intifada back in 1987 was triggered by a hang glider, an independent person not affiliated with any group of flu into a. um, uh some kind of just rarely military facility or something. um, and i don't know exactly what happened there, but there is a deep history in terms of how students using a tank litres. i don't know how many people are aware of that, even potentially the people who organized this operation. it was obviously a very well planned. but it seems to have been a very well planned operation. i mean to compare it to the aerospace around washington dc is a little bit wrong because, i mean, does this very unique in that it is basically been under a siege by israel a uh for uh, the uh, at least

a decade and a half. now, i mean there is no airport in guys. why is there no airport? because they built in the airport in the late ninety's and then israel blew it up in 2001. so for, you know, the way that people talk about guys doesn't, a lot of it doesn't understand the devastation and the strange relation and the deprivation is that people in gaza has had suffered. but this was obviously well planned operation from my point of view is brilliant in terms of what date seemed to have done in terms of taking on these really militaries and much fault. it is really military and hardly tragic in their apparent targeting as well. ready of the civilians, although i think that a great deal of what was done to civilians has been exact,

where you're at least as of what we know now in, in terms of these claims of a, you know, butchering babies and potentially rapes and so on. there's a long history of finding free texts for war and devastation based on, um, uh, you know, fabrications around, you know, baby incubators with the 1st rock war and so on. so there's could be a huge disinformation aspect of it. another big question, which i think does mirror investigation, is to what extent this was such a major intelligence feller it is. i mean, israel apparently got warnings from the junctions that, that something big was coming in from us. and their statement was paying attention to the students from us. i put out a thing about their web page being ignored. i was the 1st person to

post their statement on twitter, which i've noticed bended from for a apparently irrelevant, unrelated to reasons. and apparently just simply as a reporter say, look, this is what, how about my says their justification is in their statement. they say that it was to a, they said they had warned as well that there's a, in their statement, they say, despite repeated warnings, these rallies wouldn't, you know, he meant so we carried out this operation. and so either use incredible intelligence failure of by israel or did there was some kind of stand down 16 of what many people claim a f d r did regarding pearl harbor that he effectively lift. pearl harbor happened in order to draw the us into a world war 2. and it may be the case that nothing yahoo,

who has been dialed follicle and the cereal wire in murder. oh, you know, wants to find a pretext to a, you know, the, you know, the state guys potentially even do a mass expulsion of palestinians as he is a advocated in the past and 1989 at yahoo. gov says it is real sure. take advantage of seeing that in yahoo, the of the, of the admin square a mastercard to, uh, to carry out an expulsion. so, um, you know, the, that, that, that's my read of the, you know, immediate, immediate situation. a right to your point about as the are the same has been sad about george w bush and 911. i mean the, the warnings, the red flags were there, but seemingly ignored. now let's get into the why. why did,

how last decide to strike and, and why now? and do you think this will lead to the 3rd and the father? so it's hard to get into people's heads. i mean certainly is real stated goals of, you know, protecting israel isn't protecting jews as a car false. they're not doing it. if they did want to protect zeros and didn't want to protect you, is that they would have to read to a reasonable pieces ago. and wouldn't have fostered him us. there's a big history there of israel building up from us starting in the 1980s kind of like the us, the built up the new dry dean. and that's again, a said, well, they come to tell yvonne and they did that to split the palestinian ranks to undermine the secular p zillow at the time. and so, and even recent statements of net to yahoo has been saying stuff like we gotta fund

him, us a reset. i mean, within the last couple of years. but in terms of from us as motives. again, i don't know, it's difficult to get into people's heads, particularly political actors who might have that capability and motives in mind. i think a lot of people, i hope that this sparks a, not 3 to 5. and it might what, eh, you know, how students have repeatedly done these uprisings, in order to put forward their quest for justice and independence. and that is certainly laudable at the end of it, of itself, of but you know, i'm us, you know, may well have other motives in terms of their own political dynamics. they seem

to have succeeded if one regards as an intelligence failure by his role in making israel think that they were just interested in some, you know, mind, you know, getting whatever bread crumbs of economic development to use rallies like to grant them in their great benevolence. and didn't seem to, of, you know, psyched out these rallies, and in effect, you know, up totally, up the, into you, in terms of their military struggle. and many people view a mouse as a legitimate resistance group. and i think that there's some credence to that, but i think just under, that's a cool level of the targeting of civilians and music festival at least the moral level if got a legal level of is you know, incredibly problematic, say the least. um, so, so it's, it's not clear what,

what kind of mazda is motives are to me. so, you know, i, i don't doubt that many people, it from us are genuinely driven by a, it's incredible frustration and anger at the, of what israel is going to them. it was bombings and siege and deprivation over all these years. and what the us is, the selected and backed and financed from his role and the fact that the a global, you know, the international community has done nothing to stop it. and indeed that israel has been on a rampage in terms of normalizing with the us is help with these eric dictatorships. i was the so called abraham courts under under trump,

and this process continues under bite. and it's was met some of the same people at the state department under both allegedly, of loggerhead administrations. they completely agree on this and the work hand in glove in order to strangle the palestinians and to try to normalize relations between israel. so i can imagine that time us a saw that they were coming or isolated and they were even talking about saudi arabia, normalizing relations. and of course, underneath is us klein partner as well and their violence against women. so kind of make sense. um, so how much of a well that made this move in order to sort of grab the initiative so that they won't be completely israel's mercy once is real completes this normalization process even had are the ones the turkish president need was that you know who for

the 1st time ever recently, so the isolation was increasing and so i think that that might have a push come us in order to grab the initiative from their point of view coming up next, the internal battles between the palestinian territories, gaza and the west bank to mos on one side and the palestinian authority on the other. we'll discuss it when we return with sam husein is to type demo will be right back the the the

the welcome back to the m o i manila chance. prior to the tragic events in early october, saudi arabia was in the process of normalizing relations with israel. that's all off the table now. sam, who was saying he is back to continue the conversation. sam, thanks for sticking around. so we've seen a lot of western media conflate hamas with palestinian civilians in gaza, perhaps deliberately. how important is that distinction and also the distinction between hamas and the palestinian authority? it's tremendously important to make the distinctions between a mouse and the palestinian civilians and the posting is already posting is already the effectively presides over a surrender government in the west bank. uh, the area,

the sort of between israel and jordan, our parts of it is they don't even have the whole thing. and they basically do what israel says that they're, they're just sort of a surrender, a surrender government vc government like a government installed by the nazis in france during world war 2. the mos came to power because they won an election in 2006. and i think they won the election just for reasons that are not well understood. this was in the aftermath of yasser arafat's desk, a possible assassination by the is rarely use. and i think that the palestinian people partially elected how much at that point to say we are one people and you're not going to divide us between people in because of the west bank. so the refugees in southern lebanon on and of and no greater row.

you know, population of house names around the world. and so that's how, how much came to power in people, in the, even irrespective of this attack and so on. i mean, how much had a legitimacy crisis in terms of they, they were doing resistance and they were setting up their own structures that work, that were somewhat delivering because they have a network because it's rough, helps them build up a network of health clinics. and so on, in the 1980s, in order to undermine the po. but there's been some frustration among palestinians . intrusive. yeah. what, what, what, what this from us really deliver. just as there is from a, the p a sitting there and remo which is far better off than the rest of the post

a new territories. there are some palestinian movements which are independent of, for example, there's more one buckley to use the palestine national initiative. but i think he's a voice with some legitimacy, but he's not backed by us funding or by religious salvatore. so um and i should say other palestinians who have attempted independent for example, you have a figure like a a, a bark um like a wide who's a non violent activist to help support the 1st thing to find in the 1980s. you know what is rolled it to him? expelled to get the hell out of here. we don't want your non violence. so you know, so when, whenever israel says, you know, we, we have to deal with somebody else. yeah, well you expelled all of these people who attempted to, you know,

organize non violently to end the occupation. and so then you end up with the, you know, with the groups that are most prone to committing violence, you yourself backed the and so the current context is appalling. that the us media is in many others, are minimizing the devastation towards the you know, of the palestinian civilian population. in guys, just as they've been ignoring the repeated is really a tax on the west banks the last several months in that they are justifying it effectively. by pointing to allege the most and all that they're going after, i'm us, they're not going after them us. israel does not want peace. israel is not trying to protect its civilian population. if nothing, you want it to protect the civilian population. he would have made

a reasonable peace deal. he has had numerous opportunities. he has always been expansionist. he has always been militaristic, he is not wanted piece. he is not one of the safety of the israeli citizens, orange juice in general. so there you do think the election of loss was a knee jerk reaction to this perceived weakness of the p a. and then of course the, the death of a arafat back in 2004 or 5 died in 2004 in the people that an error 5 had a lot of problems. but he effectively represented palestinians in the multi dimensions. both in dallas or in the west bank and he is real proper. are lots of palestinians, christians and muslims in what is now is real proper. and in refugees in the southern webinar and jordan, a and,

and around the world. and so with him gone and was what was obvious, a corrupt leadership in the palestinian authority of and that was in effect, colluding with israel and effectively becoming their sog a you know, working against palestinian activist and you know, who are trying to organize for palestinian liberation the p a co after them. and so they were just doing these rallies, bidding. so you know, for forced to choose between that and a mass which um, you know, was in effect saying we're all one palestinian people and we want to liberate everything. and yeah, we're religious is outlets, but we're actually delivering health and food and medicine and so on to the population that have network of mosques and someone that does

a policy. and people chose that in that in that context, it is a lousy choice. but i think of quite an understandable war prior to october 7, the saudis, and as railways were at the threshold of normalizing relations, i mean this after the saudis, just restore diplomatic ties with iran. the former allegedly left the palestinian authority, feeling abandoned, or like the saudis had turned their backs on palestine. is there any truth or reality to those sentiments? it's not clear. uh, i mean, obviously scary. b, a in their current rule or in b. s, are not ethical operators of, but they have probably to have some, i mean that they're, they're engaging in their own devastation of yemen for example. um, yeah. and but, but in, in the us said that it would make of, you know,

in the prior, because it is a killing of kashodi and so on. but obviously haven't done that to us in a fact is backing, has backed both atrocities, by his realm and by saudi arabia. you do have a saudi arabia. and i mean, you know, there was about 20 years ago with developing the direction. sorry, a journey in, um you know, grouping that was emerging in the us and israel managed to undermine that then. so that could be re formulating. and you, interesting. we had china, a broker uh, normalization i understand between saudi arabia and uh, you're on uh, i, i do have some concerns about this and the i was meaning to raise this earlier. you

have countries like iran, profess their support of the palestinians. and i don't doubt that he writes supplies as by law was material and quite possibly i'm also not an expert on that, but that's certainly possible. but they have not done all they can. and my view is legitimately in terms of back in the policy and costs, for example, right now you have the pa even saying that the charging that you have genocide going on here. you certainly have genocide with rhetoric of from the is really camp against palestinians. you know, no food, no medicine, no electricity, no water. oh no, you know, blow you up in the death toll is rising by the day. and there

doesn't seem to be any breaks on what is ro is capable of here. and you even had in the 2014 attack on gaza. you had iranians in venezuelans, in bolivia and leaders to pakistani leaders say that israel was committing genocide even at that point. and this may well be worse than that. a, there's a genocide convention. they can invoke this at the united nations to my understanding that this was not done because the policy of the saturday at the united nations asked that it not be done because they were still trying to play foot, see was use railings. now that may change now the p a may decide to get real and stop playing footsie with the israel ease and allow

ron or venezuela or olivia, or any other color. russia or any other country to say, let's you know, put in place some legal safeguards here. is around the united states had tied up the international criminal court, which should be taken care of this. but when you have a scale that can be approaching genocide, this very specific legal definitions of genocide. you don't need to have a industrialized system of exterminating people and onions and so on. many lawyers have spoken out about this. the late michael ratner of self costs rights offenses boyle, university of illinois and other legal scholars have laid up the case that you can invoke the genocide convention here. and i think that this is something that governments to claim to be in solidarity with the palestinians around the world can in should do regardless of what the polo office as the united

nations says. because they're not representing the policy and the people who are very effectively at all. so i think that's, that's a major thing that is totally under utilized in terms of how to actually create a framework for a solution here. as so much to unpack. but unfortunately, we have to leave it right there, sam, who's saying thank you so much. be sure to subscribe to sam's work at jose need that sub stack dot com. thank you. right? that is going to do it for this episode of modus operandi the show that digs deep into foreign policy and current affairs. i'm your host manila, cham thank you so much for tuning, and we'll see you again next time. figure out the m o the

the is really for says reportedly hit a refugee camp in the north of the killing at least 30 people overnight. disturbing images from gaza as names are written on the legs of children, so identify them in case they're killed as the death toll there arises to over 4600 is really communities scramble through it. and so i don't if i bodies and find out what happened in the 1st 10 mazda attacks, talking findings that we cannot verify are ahead. we saw she was the pregnant lady . she was push it open to stomach, was purchased open. it was a huge, short incent.