things are considered, i'm capable of, of defense minister go on, says israel will wash its hands of guys that once it is completed, its ground military operation and vanquished a mouse binding this ration is given israel to the green light to conduct its military operation. as it pleases, the goal, of course, is to completely erase palestine and its people from the map the to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, martin j america. she's an award winning journalist and commentator. and in budapest we cross the jordan, samuel we, he is a pod cast, read the gamble, which can be found on youtube and locals. gentlemen, cross up rules and effect, that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate it, but it's going to george in budapest, um we have the commander in chief, the president, the united states, joe biden, given address from the oval office like none other in the history of the american presidency. he was deranged. it was a special pleading,

it was full of the bearers assumptions, prejudices of i've given and they'll patch attempts. george, what's your thoughts? probably like i'll be more accurate. they observed, i can't think of a world of them. it was absolutely disgraceful speech. it filled with hatred. and completely one sided branch it as bigoted. view of, uh, what's going on in the middle east. and it's all of a piece with everything that he has done since. um october, the 7th, which is that it hasn't stopped the yapping about what happened to his room. he hasn't said anything at all about what's been going on and goes, he hasn't said anything about the siege of gauzy ever said anything about the, the mass, a slaughter taking basing gaza, he, he managed very quickly to say, oh,

this really wasn't responsible for the attack on the hospital he got got back in the right on time and um, and then much of the stage didn't even have anything to do with the middle east, which was supposed to this this or if it got back on the jewish people, which itself is of course a lie um, but it was about about ukraine, about an hour, you know, the terrible things that have been done through your brain and how it's it's so absolutely urgent that we do something for you. crime. i suppose it is. well, absolutely dishonest because if he really wants to come up with money for israel or come up with money, the brain he has it is the he doesn't, the congress, he has emergency funds at his disposal. he can always the us presidents of what was done. that's george w bush did that. he doesn't need congressional appropriation. so this is a goal, again, a political theater to present somehow that the horrible mean republicans, you know, on the, on board 1st these great, the noble goals that the,

the biden has in mind. you know, you know, mark, now 3 of us can remember all of the camp. david's meetings with arrow to the home. you know, all these really leaders the now to multiple administrations. but this administration, they, they're per side and nothing brother, name, error, muslim world right now. i mean, the, the president biden was smell, which is very rare. okay. it was what's quoted what nominal allies. ok. i mean, it's really quite extraordinary. and it's george said, you know, as much as he wanted to emphasize israel. he was looking for money for ukraine. and i agree with george here, but he wants congress to be comfortable in all of these things. it's me because he wants to make sure that no one is absolved, as you know, good, you passed it, you voted for your be your be about matching my politics. this is what do you, this is what this is all about. okay? and it's, it's interesting how many of whom did exactly the same thing with multiple western

leaders. ok, so everybody, no one can say, you know, that you weren't heard. martin. i think a little bit, it's about his legacy as well. you know, he's obviously thinking about every election. i mean, i see sleepy general any more. i don't know. go ahead. well, i said before when your program, i've written my articles, but i do wonder how he'll make it to the next re election. but the end of 2024 with this is mental states of deteriorating all the time. he gave a speech just recently, and i don't know way where he says spokes person actually called his microphone and actually watched it up. you know, that's how bad it is when, when joe starts daybreak and he's got people who jump in very quickly and dropped the levels on the makes the case as they started playing jazz music. okay. so betsy's q 2 big. right? yeah, go, let's not talk about trust music and by the i'm, i'm blinking playing the blues. i'm in a, it's, there's a really awful mims going around on the internet of the opening can playing the

some, some police music and somebody's interested in all these opponents. you know, um, seems that goes a bunch of good as long as you have to. unfortunately it's, it's, we're living and unprecedented times. we've never seen anything any say like, what's going on now and goes and you talk about job i the speech i have to apologize to the beach. i didn't see it. i didn't worship this much. but you know, the board is very, very confused on policy is never been this thing and he's just messing up on a, on a glorious level. i mean, there must be people in the white house that are running around, you know, in a panic. because with the situation now where you have this, the real story for me, and because a is this day today, the negotiation. this almost tragic between the, by the ministration of miss neil, who is the dog and who is the town who is actually running this entire operation. you know, we, we have completely whitewashed air brushed out,

being the subject of 50 years of lucky picture. and that doesn't exist, that's not popping up on any of zeros. that's not, that's not even possibly narrative. you know, it's, it's not, it's worse. that's a, it's come us talking point. that's what it gets down to it, you know, charged. you know, i talked about this a lot. i mean, when we look at the situation in ukraine, we look at the situation, but god's in israel, these are all craven choices. these are choices people make. okay. and, you know, we've had to meaningful attempts at britain having some kind of peace process and you've crane detailed by the west, by the americans. we, we haven't even heard from this white house, you know, restrained negotiations. we haven't even heard those words. and then you have the european union running around like it's, it's the i can check in with it's getting cut off. ok, you know, in support of israel. i mean, why it's never really explains these are craven choices, george? exactly right. they are, and i think the biden is so he has always been, i me, yes,

he's the more demented. uh, big a now. and his obviously is the stuff brings severely from dementia, but he has always been a new car. i mean, right from the start of his career, you know, 19 seventies and eighties. he has always been an avid intervention, as an avid spokesman on behalf of the us phone policy making your lead. and, and he is, this is what he is about, you know, big game back in the ninety's. he was the most rabid, good advocate for bombing the subs. and that'll be, it isn't surprising that in his approach the lease, he kind of it focused on where, you know, where, where is the, the foreign policy media and military industrial complex position. this is it, any, any sites i'm not going to even make the slide. this pretense as previous presidents have done all being even handed is right away. just think complete the

identify themselves with israel and the n, as i said, she hasn't stopped tool. okay. another one thing which was the attack on october, the 7th, nothing. it's all about anything that's happened since then. and again, it blinked and it goes through is released as i come here as a june. i mean, if you scroll just above for a secretary of state, again, normally the united states as billed, supposedly the phone is broke up the mediator and he's supposed to get doesn't do it. now on the question of ukraine, it's a game he is this, you, this policy very single mindedly, which is the side without any and all attempts to come to some sort of a settlement. so it's just been an interview. bob, based with former chancellor gerhard schroeder was a he too, had been involved in the early days of mediating something between ross and you're right. he to, and he's explicit about, it was rebuffed by the united states. that's who he is and nothing is that he has said since october, the 7th,

within the game. any american interest in any of them for some sort of uh what, what makes this really $0.10 a coal and even really dangerous. martin is that, you know, when you look at the correlation of forces around israel, this is about 20 years ago 25 years ago. we have um hezbollah, which is a very potent political for political and military boards. and um, instead of, you know, taking the, taking a step from the away from the abyss is they're actually encouraging even to the point where do you think the biochemistry, she really wants a, a total out because they want total victory. so you're gonna have to make a total commitment, go ahead marble. and that's where the best, where the dilemma risk to apply to any wants just wants to support as well as much as you can imagine, you know who, there's no his dream. but he hasn't got the goals, he hasn't got the class really hasn't got the the of the money in the bank to go the whole 9 yards. which is why i think it was

a huge mistake to send the site before 5 destroyers on top of the coast. because i, i know i can understand the logic behind that. he was saying so cool to these really to say i'm the if you need me, but you can't do the i was just a token because when you do that to hezbollah and the radio, joe, you're really playing russian roulette with not one glitch in the 6 round chamber, but 3 bullets, you know, you're spending the barrel and, you know, who knows what will come out of it. the real worry for me is by them is out of his depths. don't really understand the implications of jordan has split way around, inter regional these rallies. no, they comp site, a war on 2 fronts. it's just too big. it's took stream and the americans would never ever support and with such a venture. so what do we got left with go a lot of the paper tigers in the room pretending to to be powerful reflection and muscles. but at the end of it, it's just a narrative and lies. i'm an installation. what next meal i'm going to do it is he's squeezing, but he's got him by the throat and he's saying, look,

i can easily exterminate only a 1000 gallons of people tomorrow. they can drop dead like flies. how you're going to handle that politically in your country. with the press, you know, he's going to that type and that's what this hold to monetary of so called project is a little about letting 20 trunk st. 20 trucks the extending your argument. you know, he and i'm, and named this program a rate a racing palestine because that's what it's all about. okay. and now for you, there may not be another opportunity coming and that, you know, you know, every time there's a crisis, it's turned into an opportunity for these people here. and that's what, that's what i'm netanyahu's government wants they want. they want to really want to be able to, to minute atrocity and get away with that george. like mike dropped ideas of what i think so, but i think it's a doomed thing should do it the raise the sun. i mean, these are, it has tried that before. uh with not any great success. i mean,

it's problem is that, you know, yeah, we're gonna raise bias. i'm going to invest, we're going to do that, and the other bed you have to have to do it. you have to go in there and do the job . and israel, as shown, is of in the boss to be on willing to do that that, that job because it was an type of sustained been know, most casual to is it so, and he doesn't want to do it. you know, we have to talk about, you know, tens of thousands of, uh, that is rated and is rarely shown that it's not willing to do it. so, at the moment, i mean, it's all lost. i mean, you know, weeks go by and i haven't done anything. oh, or what we're about to go in and we're about to go in the maybe they will. but from everything that we know of israel in the box, they don't actually like the getting the hand to hand come back. making polarized, they can style, they can deny medical treatment and so on. and you know, and, and strengthen. but they don't like sending in their infantry and i try to get the chance. i'd be happy to have a hard break here. and after that hard break,

we'll talk about the possibility of israel's land war against scouts est with r t the in 18. 84, the german empire began its colonial invasion intern, and maybe from the very start berlin, encourage the white colonists to settle in south west africa and take away the best land from the local drive. the germans were actively draining natural resources and using the local population as a cheap labor source. this was causing major protest and lead to rebuild your in 19 o 4, they hear arrow, and nama drives rebuild against the german colonial rule. kaiser wilhelm the 2nd

was fully determined in or, or does abreast the rebellion with the up most of irritate against the inhabitants of nan. maybe a germany through is 15000 well equipped army all around the country. concentration camps were built in humane medical experiments over citizens were conducted within the period of 4 years. the german scaled up to 60000 people, among which there were 80 percent of the here railroad tribe, and 50 percent of the number dr. the events in south west africa are called the 1st genocide of the 20th century and not without reason. park compared to the holocaust just 2 decades later after the massacre in nam may be a hitler's a solid unit foot on the same brown colonial uniform which puts the world into the chasm of the 2nd world war. the

a welcome act across that were all things are considered in peter a little. this is the home addition to remind you we're discussing some realm is the let me just go back to my lives, thoughts about the possibility of a land war here. over the last few days, pep talks from the defense minister got go onto the troops. you know, next you can see guns over there soon. you will see you guys have room with in him the all the some you know, psych ops you know for the, for the media and all of that. but realistically, i think it's weeks is george, as already mentioned in the 1st part of the brother. it's very, very problematic,

but the problem is, is it, mark me, basically israel's calling card in the region is been deterrence. now that deterrence was undermined on october 7 in a major way. and it's only deterrence in fear that keeps is real safe within what, what it doesn't even define its borders. but what could be when it calls itself the state of israel, but it needs to get that deterrence back or else. um uh, there is a, oh hey, narrow the bad things are going to happen here one way or another bar. yeah, the main vaccine is the possibility of deterioration or a complete collapse of israel as we notice. i don't think that's makes up duration . i think that's what the stakes all i mean, and that's and you know, who knows that she's got some of the political pressure on him to pull a rabbit out of the mothers is really explained to talk to her with a sense um, but i don't think most just really is up behind him with this idea of uh,

a new on slow the new campaign on the ground was 11 to 7 years are covered as well a lot. and i can tell you one of the list or best kept secrets in the middle east, is how pull these really is when we talk about infantry. because are the tank single grades sophisticated with an to cover their force, but the infantry infantry men on the ground, boots on the go, is where the sun is all that good. when they and when that was proved, when they took on the hezbollah, 2006, that was the i reported on it, you know, and that's the big worry from this. and you can send in time divisions into because some of those times we blown up some might be captured, you know, when the real flexing, if he's going to take on as opposed to below. so i'm just going to take on so it how much in, in the, in guns that will be on the ground to be soldiers and how many, what's the, what's the magic figure out? how many can you afford to lose? and how many can you not afford to lose? i would say 100, so i wouldn't go with just regular to thousands. i would say when it goes to $56700.00 idea of soldiers slow to it's good. they but the dilemma it takes 20

afford not to go in george, you know, that's it. kenny, i forgot to go in when he, he has options. i mean, he can basically take a time to buy them and, and off by doing really well, why don't you tell me not to do this once it's only pay you about it. i'll do is you buy a, we don't, we don't want a, a, a blood bar somewhere, right? well, if you say so i'm not going to do it. so that's a way to get out of it just as well. i couldn't do anything because the americans, you know, stayed my hand and, and i, we've gone for the full i have with the americans. so that is a way that he can get out of this. so, i mean, i mean i, i don't disagree with the mother and he made it may be hundreds. i mean, it may, may be thousands, but the fact is it is the way it has lost hundreds in the past. and bullying was and you know that and they bench to overcome them because victory. it's a, is, was a successful at the end of the road. i don't they last about

a 1000 people in the 90 a 67 war. but nonetheless, they continued, you know, breaking out of a champagne for years subsequently. um, but in this case, it's small to see what this victory would look like, a little bit to destroy it. how about so, i mean, how much is, you know, it's, well, again, they're not just going to go in and the big, the mouth house, the house that is a very, very messy operation. not just house that house that have to go through the tunnels and everything that's, that's all gonna be an easy task, you know, going through all the tunnels. so, you know, you know, they just like they lose even, you know, several 100 ext, uh, several 1000 without any successful outcome of the and, well then that will have been a failure of the been negotiated. you know what, how far with israel go and that's an interesting question. how far is israel willing to escalate? is a willing to use nuclear weapons? and what else do you say that? no, no, no, of course not. i don't know is that you can say the same thing about is read. oh, i think it's very much on the table here because the stakes are so high because

market we've just heard over the last what 2 weeks is that, you know, we don't negotiate with terrorists. the is really government doesn't want the big o'shea with a mouse over hostages. katara is doing that. you know, other i n g o's and whatnot. l o. and then you do a reverse in decide, we're going to leave a mouse standing after everything that's been said in the words matter works matter a lot. and he, you can, um, you know, the words were bells, who kept on ringing the okay. and this is the dilemma again, i keep stressing this is, these are all been choices and no reality is sitting in here and, and again, like i said, martin is a, it's deterrence. they've lost that. go ahead. oh yeah, they listen to turn some i think if, if, if much time policy is nothing you know, who will lose the credibility of being this great will top is great. need to choose me. i think he's already tubs that mean that the whatever resolution there is,

he's out the door. i would i to be as a plane on the tarmac, the old up go ahead to get to go back to george's point. the um, i think is right. i said, i think the time the so now in the most luxury center is that he doesn't launch a huge ground offensive. and he doesn't need to be what i believe very strongly. and i've been lost it on the internet for saying this. i think they're looking at a policy of repeating the holocaust. i think they want to stop hundreds of thousands of dollars. and so, you know, they don't need to send the soldiers in, but i'm asking of the, the effect that i would have on, on, unless it would be possibly my break the will of a lot of young man or, you know, with that, that's the way it is what it is you're thinking and if button is not strong, this button is not so you know, we, we will see a west, a consistent west that is some lives to, to these are realities that are looking at and they will just close their eyes and pretend that isn't really happening on both sides. we'll be talking americans these

raise. are we talking about a political conundrum? you know we, which is still my we can't quite decide what to do. but in the meantime, another 100000 people just dropped dead light flights. you know, i think that's possibly the main things that mission, yahoo is, is the gentleman if there isn't a land in encouraging the land invasion then with martin is just said there is the policy is and if, and from what i can tell, i obviously do not watch cnn, but i, i've been told in the last few hours that they do all of their reporting from comfortable places and telling me even jerusalem. oh, they don't any images, any images of gaza at all? okay, i just talked to people on board the unfortunate people that have their loved ones, like the captivity in i'm the gaza strip, but that's about it. so my point, george is the reinforce. what we've just been said here is just go report on it just as the population is cold. it's a cali george. yes, it is

a thing that i'm going to see just guys. a we'll continue with is obviously the objective in mind, or just simply kidding office population. but even of cnn, those are important. even if the less than the public, well know very much about is the people in the middle east will know about it. and again, it will have, israel will have different so this avoiding a wide scale wor, um, because the people, you know, his father will know about this. i will know that you are basically just starving a population to death. and that would still is, or it will still have that problem on his hands, which is that his bottle will get in. i mean, they'll be able to somebody else by tomorrow, and i think that's an excellent point here. so if we, if we set up a, we agree that the land invasion is just type in the, in, in, in lieu of another policy. but basically the ethnic cleansing, do you think hezbollah would stand buying in a, in wats?

because that's the period of the case right now, is that israel is hesitant to have a landing page and because it will, well, it will see as blog intro, the of the conflict on the side of the palestinians. but even if the policy is just starving, the mouth calling, do you think has beloved would intervene even under those circumstances? at some point? yeah, i mean, it has brought me wrong just in a country to what ms. west, none of this might like to see it has been running around playing very, very cool, cause keeping very cool edge. and i'm watching the day to day um, situation development. i think if we get that point where we're looking at what is clear, that is the policy, then i think you'll see at least a certain amount of destruction. destructive attacks from has belong to um, scuffles plus buddha exchanges that govern heights exchange about to read that will be the same end of the glitch. and then they'll see how is real in

a place that the big worry here, the religious but you know, a little while right now, but this is going to escalate originally. and i wonder if that's now who was thinking of the know them both a and another war with a, with his blood as a, as a account to wage to what he's not doing and done so, you know, he might think they're all great victories to the americans, now the hezbollah has approximately a 100000 rockets, which are quite sophisticated programs as we speak, targeted to key military installations, power stations, for government buildings, you know, and there's no way that they're gonna, america is going to allow that to happen. but the worry is miscalculation and the worry is that we are being treated by netanyahu. and a certain point he will create a full flag attack between hezbollah and those american ships. and that's my worry . that's what i think the, you know, it is excellent. and our suspicion, george, why is the united states supporting israel the way it does?

i mean, what is the strategic interest security interest? this is what the photos me is confuse me all my life. one question. yeah, yeah, no i, i don't know what's answerable, i'm putting george on the spot as i easily do, but he does. it usually comes back with a good one. go ahead or. yeah, i don't know if i can come up with a good one because i don't think it's a very good on simple. this is never has israel done anything at all? for the united states though to strengthen the united states as position of the united states as formulated its foreign policy. it was on the beginning from the time that the state of israel was created, which was solving the refugee problem adhering to resolution to, for, to withdrawal from the occupied territories. no settlements of, and eventually a 2 state solution. all of these positions of a, the american government has of history. this royal, this just basically defied the united states. we also know about all these things

like the of the back on the us as deliberately which was never explain, you know, the family, you know, go on and on is or it has never done anything. it's all like nights the states. but yet the united states is continually showering gifts on israel and all seeing nothing in between them and the, you know, it's really interesting getting me up and down this point here, but going back to bite and speech. oh jesus. oh, absolutely, to, to the, to the hilt supporting 2 s no fanatical regimes, one in israel, and one in ukraine. where are those rules based ordered rules based ordered, gentleman, i don't know for a gentleman that's all the time we have on the thing. my guessing marrakech and in budapest, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here are to see you next time. remember, a girl stifles the we're going to and yet i love you done boss my names,

so furious maximus crane. i'm an american citizen, and then yes, why i'm here to show you back to do the west the truth. and as you can see, my government supplied weapons of struck for civilian area. this isn't a military target, this is a grocery store. does go to my gosh, i can't imagine how these people have worked like this for 9 years. and there are children here. i'm telling you that have died because of my government, the united states governments funding of this was more of a baby here in a civilian civilians. right here in impact of the seas are. so this makes me angry. i'm sorry. oh,

i mean, i know, but still you know, you feel responsible as an american the, as all forces were hiding and civilian structures. the machine gun nest that we saw outside the courtyard, the nazi tattoos on his body. our journey is that it's good versus and i pray that and i pray that victory comes soon and i believe it will. the show seemed wrong. just don't need to shape house because the engagement equals the trail. when so many find themselves will support we choose to look so common ground

the the, the headlines on, on the international is where a 4th is reportedly hit a refugee camp in the north of gaza. can i get these specific images from dogs and with names are written on the legs of children to identify them in case that kills. as the desk told that rises to over 4600 is why the communities scramble river winds point dense, find 4 days and find out what happened to me 1st time, not a time. so can findings that we cannot verify she was a pregnant lady. she was push it to open, the stomach was butcher told me there was a short incident.