to hi nation or can't see and welcome back to going undergrad, real ga, single around the world from the u. e. m. is global outraged at the ongoing violence in the middle east for a long dr. joint view, a rush or a resolution of the un security council for a cause a ceasefire, was opposed by france, japan, britain, in the usa. the u. e. of course is also the center of world detention because of next month's comp 28 climate conference where geo political ria configurations. as regards global energy markets will play a key role in attenuating any response to man made climate change. joining me from jetta in global energy superpower, saudi arabia is the, for my senior advisor to saudis, minister of petroleum and former chief sadie, negotiate with the un framework. conventional and climate change. dr. muhammed also bon to thank you so much dr. out. so bonds are coming on the show before we even get to the global impact economically of the catastrophic events in the region.

your take on the slaughter and gaza from war planes to buy the united states, going to be in union countries and britain. unfortunately, uh there was, is practicing deborah to send the uh they, they were saying when let us normalize relationship with visit i and we are, you are in one or asian and as i should have, i do, or i have the solution of to a space. but then with the i trust to see that is happening and guys that we see that they are fully supporting is i and they are bringing ships. and so again, it's a 2000 and sort of just come in and they are to say, we're out on the side or is it i, i, this is not only the united states, but uh, or listed in categories. and this is not surprising. they have the support thing, is it a for a long time and they add on the giving the lives services to the leaders when they

meet with them that way. yeah, we can support the united nation and i to go back to an idea of success as in bought of the way that jeff easier with and then to be the cabinet and also for the size. but the initial her when, when we come to achieve our implement such a i understand they really for most of the the sense what i lack of mesa is included in the 4 categories. the committee is a committee that to them what they are doing and nothing basically because there was, i do and i assist in particular they don't want to offer on this issue. so we see a sorry for what happened in that last tuesday when we started the hospital being bombard, i'm more than 500 uh fixed as

a result it from that the bottom and i'm we so the next day when president buyer then visited is that i said one, uh it says not visa, highly team. we did a, it is a, as a team, as if we are in a football game. and the other tv means how much, how much on those days today at all gets to the settlement. uh which side of the guys uh how come it is nobody companies that so it's true is it shows the blind uh, side of this with uh is that i why the whole there is over the whole award with the city and we have see the immunization here and there, and there was and data born and then what's the name on the on woods. they fill a senior because they are seeing the process. the,

the i see the genocide that is being before and the area. and that is not acceptable to any wise man or woman. and or because israel denies all sorts of things as regards what's happening in gaza. but did it surprise even you, i mean, did, when you were advising this out of the government. did anything like this happened? the king of daughter of jordan would cancel the meeting with an american president who flies in the, you know, very nothing to us. president flew in the 2nd intifada, but the idea that a leader of egypt would not meet with the us president the obviously the palestinian authority is one of the bus, the beleaguered lead to the didn't. but uh they did surprise is, is that the jordan one did nothing to do with vitamin nor did egypt was enough to fly associated meeting kind of said, because what, what do they need to meet with for,

if anything is clear and stop the vision storm with the killing a sub with the uh, the fires and the gaza. and try to withdraw from the guys that it's as simple as that. but with the addresses he is right that they don't want it. they want to continue this water because war. so why we have, i mean, so i, as i said, ma'am with our best lives to, uh, the, uh, westbank. uh, i the, he had the, uh, the meeting with the government. um then, uh uh, can you go john bill? uh, cancel the meeting according to the concert station with the egyptian. uh president a cc. i'm and anybody else was going it was going to attend the meeting. i don't see any reason for that meeting. and i think a day the solution is very clear. on the meeting,

but then the united states in the security council last year was the last tuesday they of the day before last tuesday they stop a block, the decision to a so i have c is 5. so what kind of this discussion consultation that should go on on uh on this issue? yeah, in fact, as the americans use the dead women and children from the christian hospital in gaza as an excuse as to why the meeting didn't to go to plan. and that somehow the morning period along some muslims meant the bite and could meet with the account of lots. but of course um, i mean you're saying you wouldn't surprise the suez canal is in egypt as mean hosting the buyer clearly wouldn't have done the same. i mean,

does this have implications that much more profound? they've been a gyptian leader, would refuse to meet with the united states leader. know we own support to what this decision being taken by easier by uh, can you jump on jonathan? definitely. in such a situation, any wise man, any wisely, that would never go to such a meeting to discuss the very obvious solution to the problem and they know what they need to do. okay, we're sorry, we're not saying it as i make implication then for the suez canal dray, but they donation media are claiming and have been claiming that side of the recognition of israel is still on the table normalization this, this phrase which is used. i mean, did you believe the reports that were also link to that a and b. s kept blinking waging when he buzzed around this region, desperately trying to presume we seek support from this and the other is not going

to see the support. he was coming to say that abs 20 via the normalization excellence. and there is, there was supposed to be congress, an integration coming to say that he meant to do the same. but so that a, the position is very clear from day one, that we have another initiative on the table for many, many years. and we need to revise that, and the main thing is a very clear, but it is also the method nation decision that we need to have a 2 state solution when uh for the, for the city is on the 1967 bought the with the easier with the escape it then and also the damage also joined on hi, i'm my data shop. i live in in on the jewish estate. if this is not

happening, we will never accept any normalization. at least this is my understanding. and last tuesday, the 1000 out for ministers or so there may be a and he stated this position. and they said that be a, a very sad about the what the, the huge number of casualties and guys that i had, the only solution is to have to stay with the 0 to was and then it's got it okay. or i will, i will assign is only that is the united states position, despite the fact may be to cease 5. as you know of can i say that if that didn't surprise you the fact that that or bleed is a refusing to meet with president biden? nothing like this has ever happened. the foreign minister of a ron, flying in for the extraordinary meeting of the is that big conference in a way us,

me easy me from? i mean, what did you make is that i mean that, that never happened when you were advising this. how do you government, 1st of all, but i what sort of alarm do you think of that goal has been the nature of nation countries. and what do you make of why he flew in, in the, in the middle of the night. when that show as guides, a stomach into design, very serious, they are not happy with the what size happening in gaza. and if it continues that will initiate not on the, the out of countries. but the same content is malaysia, said that it on many other countries that based on our next steps and they cannot accept to continue. this is a big strategy. hey, when you see children love that is and killing and be can. and then could i any, any, what is a human emotion is what is the meaning of the human?

this is jennifer, and i think would be a slam if that confidence organization which makes the on last wednesday, i think, and basically i and this isn't that this should stop, i'm or otherwise it wouldn't be expedited into ideas. and then it's not an international war between is it i and that as of this, let me find out a board. i don't know if it's the american aircraft carrier is causing the interference, but that seems to be a bit of freezing there for in the link from that jet. and to you by. i have to say um, the thing is when a russian speak is we're being shelled 14000 dead and don't pass rusher. came to the rescue as it will all be the critics of pigeons. a came too late when this is happening and gaza. as you said, these woods would your echoing all around the is amick world as well as we are,

will. that's about it, isn't it? no, it just shows a lot of support. no, no i, what i mean was russia went and acted some se, belatedly to save. the people have done best. the arab world is not going in to save the people of god. are they? when is it says continue or is it ice continues that can also see on the coming i've seen in a god's out on the ask the guys that people to go to migrate to egypt or to jordan. or should i make war include the god of war, when we say, you know, and they would go into a fight, they in order to at least stop the aggravation office at 8 it is that your lives are nothing without the united states. when they saw that the united states is on their side, they start to show that they are,

they can do what they want. this is not a sense and cannot be accepted by the whole out of world and this, let me call doctor mom and else i'll stop you. that. more from the former senior advisor decided you raise minister petroleum up to this break the oh, what else seemed wrong? just don't you have to shape house after and engagement equals the trails. when so many find themselves will support. we choose to look for common ground, the the,

the, the welcome back to going underground that's usually with former senior advisors is how do you rate these minister petroleum dr. muhammed us about no trust about in about one you were talking that about the fact that will be some kind of response. because if there is any, got a military response to save the people of guys that from the are, will,

the as not make world biden has, is aircraft carriers. the gerald, the ford and the eisenhower masses, multi $1000000000.00 pieces of weaponry as the people of guys of stuff and die. well, for him, i suppose oil is one weapon, which is on if a they reduce production, which they have announced continuations of reductions of production. it also helps the environment. do you expect uh oh, big plus to dramatically with use production to before i answer this question, what's, what's happening with the military as far as is uh, being different from the united states to your claim. yeah. it did nothing and does not change that is so i don't to be sort of cries, that's why we kind of stop the american aggregation medicaid. they know that they cannot fight against this. let me call and they know that this is the edison. they

want to 5 to risk you with those and guys. so it is nonsense. that took the day, escaped us with the a be a with the or board of ships. um, uh, some uh, some elicit a forces. they have different funds. they have the strategies, but i'm they, i pressure on funds and they can notify is really where i think that actually i will not stay silent. and then i says start to do anything in the ages of to coming. coming to your question. um, i know we, we will not be hasty to review is found that reviews our on production unless the, the, the problem is a big unless the is that i is not listening to the voice of wisdom. and

then we will have to nothing but to use our or in for election in order best to a letter as a whole. or this is something serious that's being taken by the or in for to do a service engine. a of course, bizarrely that will help the united states economy in terms of oil exports because the price of oil will rise. yeah. how wide spread would you say your opinions are as regards what's happening then in a, in guys of the, similar to it because, you know, over the years we've seen how the children and grandchildren of people and it's a young young countries in the gc, educate that children the leads in west and universities. i know you were educated in the, in the united states. but i, why lee is this understood this little during bozza as the way you were talking about it. i you don't get the impression that there's a loss of faith and solidarity in the palestinian people in recent years in

jesus the countries no, i they the main problem is that this is not a uh, oriented using categories issue. it is honestly, i mean issue, and when i try to id for me to send me an issue is uh internet, but this issue i knew how see it, immunization is not limited to this. let me call him, but his strength and the okay. and tries in germany, even though those cancelled as well. i've said that we are democratic society and allow the decision based try to stop these, this immunizations. this is ridiculous, that's on the level of sound that, that the worst is having. this is, this has been covered through the canadian problem when we

saw it without the out and gives a claim, if anything they want in order to list it, let it sit advised. i'd like to when it comes to the sign as they is. and they hadn't do the migration, i guess, the so, and they and we out and that's what it's about our children who are listening and that was taking advantage of cation. they can go anywhere i know by the way, uh, the used to see is going to the ace we already established. but the relationship with china with the relationship when i side with the relationship with india, i'm. this is preparing to daniel international. not all that i would share the with wouldn't be i'm on the day. is that a buying that a power of a new one? so is this as not being recognized by that was it would be too late later on. do it

okay, now, is it because they will have no power to show? now the security council lives and then they do it with the on the different on the i m. s the one about assessing the draft to say yeah, but then that is not a democracy. that as they reflect the hit on that. so they need to stop that. they need to know that the world has this one to many part of that they need to achieve satisfying balance between the different policies in order to achieve the statement as ation. i avoid any international 91. yes. as regards freedom of expression, obviously frances band, palestinian demonstrations, talking breeding of a binding, the palestinian flag. and this on top of what's happening to julian, this ons. but i have to say is you need to decide the arrangement prepared for the

on slow. it's also called main stream corporate propaganda media renay donations as they attack saudi arabia and gcc countries. already headlines will start to appear about the human rights records of jesus e countries as a weapon against your country. for a not bowing down to washington, you prepared for that this, this weapon, if it is the so it is useless, we get used to it. and if is not working, we because we a half hour to do this, you know, you seem and we were, you know what we are doing. and we didn't pay any attention to assess criticism. please. i asked, there was to criticize them send before they can to criticize other countries including my so yeah, and that's what it i know they're trying to be awarded. and this message has been delivered by our crown prince and how much is a month?

very clearly, especially when the president by them can through saturday of yeah, asking to increase our in production, asking to buy and then i shaw from all of that plus congregation. and the we say we turn in no, no way. so now and the balance power was an you cannot make, i mean, the nation an automatic, they cannot, we cannot accept the auditors or a criticism from any country because we know we are doing that. i think we have a lot of agencies that to improve, take the and individuals a well comp to any age is happening in the u. a soon do you think uh, given your role in uh, climate change dynamics and geo politics in for this out of your radian kingdom. do you think the job id blinking jake sullivan,

newland care about the environment given what happened to the north stream pipeline given is you just said that they desperately wanted the increases in the oil production to lower the price of gas, whilst at the same time and that's petroleum, but is it while of the same time wanting to massively increase l. n g from frank gas in texas to western europe. when this is another case of the sun visited by then is giving permissions to a different orange companies and different gas companies to increase production. and of the same time, the us, the other countries and other international companies, water and facing internationally to stop because of the environment. oh, god believes in this situation it started to uncover easily

a u. k. if you are from the okay, they allowing a non c a producer to continue exploding and producing or 11 gas in the notes to see the other did not have the air loud at that . do you think it's all a lie when they chose to buy the environment? they don't care about this. i'm in this village that there was that meeting last week of the uh, oil companies in london. and to get it. yeah. and the other environment then the edges, the way to godaddy. uh, besides the inter continental with a lender on there with the shelby sub always. so the most is the more the what do you use? uh, when i get it. uh, if you know, had they had a young young den on there, she left to have had a temporary. i'm had

a score in order that there's a link that says the environment. and the only places that i think on see or to why the convention. a g, a u, n, a c, c, convention, token of all of our community. and house guys is in the or 6 is and they are also said that was supposed to very few should be equal among, or countries. even though the higher the conventions say in the that there is a common but differentiated us about so really the sort of a so apply this for this event and based on invest that they are the responsibility in this. and i was going through this over no to the environment for a long time. and they not only did with there is a sausage, but also saying, so they are telling me that on convention and the whole agreement into an all

in agreement why. and they are a subsidizing card is just that, i guess it is that within the heavy taxes or the or and, and when they talk about kind of one test, basically they're so big guys are they simply designate that. so these are still in the center. so i, i don't think it does being discover many delegations. management is saying the same that so the policy. so what you are doing, you are doing it on the, to the environment and asking if one of these countries to bad, the better than this is nonsense. i'm with that as an funny. yeah. asking so maybe on other countries to pay financially to the default of incentives in order to produce more than your words. so i just can i the very briefly though, i ask you about the some bugger cause what do you have?

and then mentioned notes are just very, very briefly the danger of a nuclear threat from israel given as you say, the unity against israel level, what's happening and gaza. they haven't usually when you, when they use it a, is it a, is it either one use the nuclear power? is it be available? the next a condemned visit? i is for, for a position, and they're having a nuclear power and lima plants. and they are making a lot of hectic and show the, again, is any can city who is going to have near clear to even meet the san for new york. that energy, including the saw i'm not defending here on, but the i'm saying you that this is another, the devil to send the why and why you are allowing is that i to on the near clear

to power why leo prevent others from doing this when they say when is that i is right. what is the wisdom we see is now nowadays and gods that there is no wisdom act or they said they were, we would continue to run by them. is that way, guys out from or it says is in and as a citizen, so this is devon said that had to so this is nonsense photo to say that. okay. obviously as rail denies the nuclear weapons expos, by motor car, you know dr. mom and out of somebody. oh no document outside the bag. do. thank you . that's it for the show. and the condolences from the whole team here i'm going underground, but those bree by the ongoing violence in the middle east, will be back with a brand new episode. on saturday until then keep in touch by the social media. if it's not sensitive in your country and had to have channel going, undergoing tv on rumble, they'll come to what you handle that sense of going underground. saturday,

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