people about defense minister go on, says israel will wash its hands of gaza once it is completed, its ground military operation, and vanquished the mouse. the binding this ration is given israel to the green light to conduct its military operation as it pleases. the goal, of course, is to completely erase palestine and its people from the map. the, to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, martin j america. she's an award winning journalist and commentator. and in budapest we cross the george 70 wiley. he is a pod cast, read the gamble, which can be found on youtube and global's. right, gentlemen, cross up rules and effect, that means you can jump any time you want, and i always appreciate it, but it's going to george in budapest, um we have the commander in chief, the president, the united states, joe biden, given address from the oval office like none other in the history of the american presidency. it was deranged. it was

a special pleading. it was full of the bearers assumptions, prejudices of i've given enough agitators, george, what's your thoughts? probably like a be more accurate. they observed, i can't think a lot of them. it was absolutely disgraceful speech and filled with hatred and completely one sided uh, bridget, as bigoted view of, uh, what's going on in the middle east. and it's all of a piece with everything that he has done since um october, the 7th, which is that he hasn't stopped yapping about what happened to his room. he hasn't said anything, it's all about what's been going on and goes, he hasn't said anything about the siege of guys he ever said anything about the, the mass a soul to taking basing gaza, he, he managed very quickly to say, oh, basically it wasn't responsible for the attack on the hospital,

he got got back in the right on time and, and then much of the speech didn't even have anything to do with the middle east, which was supposed to this this or if it got back on the joyce people, which itself is of course, a lot of, but it was a lot about your brain about an hour, you know, and other terrible things that have been done through your brain and how it's it's so absolutely urgent that we do something for you crime and oppose it as well. absolutely. dishonest because if he really wants to come up with money for israel or come up with money that you bring, he has it is the he doesn't, the congress, he has emergency funds at his disposal. he can always the newest president of what was done. that's george w bush did that. he doesn't need congressional appropriation. so this is all, again, a political theater to present somehow that the horrible mean republicans, you know, on the on board was these great, the noble goals that the,

the bite and the has in mind. you know, you know, mark, now 3 of us can remember all of the camp. david's meetings with arrow to the home. you know, all these really leaders the now to multiple administrations. but this administration, they their per site and nothing brother name a air of muslim world right now. i mean the, the president biden was snubbed, which is very rare. okay. it was what's quoted what nominal allies. ok. i mean, it's really quite extraordinary. and it's george said, you know, as much as he wanted to emphasize israel. he was looking for money for ukraine. and i agree with george here, but he wants congress to be comfortable in all of these things. it's me because he wants to make sure that no one is absolved through the you know, good, you'll be, you passed it, you voted for your be your be about matching my politics. this is what do you, this is what this is all about. okay? and it's, it's interesting home didn't, you know, who did exactly the same thing with multiple western leaders. ok. so everybody,

no one can say, you know, that you weren't heard more. i think a little bit, it's about his legacy as well. you know, he's obviously thinking about every election. i mean, i see sleepy general any more. i don't know. go ahead. well, i said the phone, your program. i written miles, it goes with i, i do wonder how he'll make it to the next re election. but the end of 2024 with this is mental states deteriorating all the time. he gave a speech just recently and i don't way where he just spoke to a person actually called his microphone and actually watched it up. you know, that's how bad it is when. when joe starts debris and he's got people who jump in very quickly and dropped the levels on the makes the case as they started playing jazz music. okay. so betsy's q 2 gigs. right? yeah. go, let's not talk about just music and bible and blinking playing the blues. i'm in a, it's, there's a really awful mims going around on the internet of a opening can playing the some,

some police music and somebody's interested in all these opponents. you know, um, seems that goes a bunch of good as long as you like to. unfortunately it's, it's, we're living in unprecedented times. we've never seen anything any say like, what's going on now and goes and you talk about job i the speech i have to apologize to page. i didn't see it. i didn't worship. read this much more, but you know, the book is very, very confused on policy. has never been this thing and he's just messing up on a, on a glorious level. i mean, there must be people in the white house that are running around, you know, in a panic. because with the situation now where you have this, the real story for me and goes a is this day today the negotiation. this almost tracing between the administration and miss neil who, who is the dog and who is the town who is actually running this entire operation. you know we, we have completely whitewashed air brushed out the entire subject of 50 is what the

patient that doesn't exist. that's not popping up on any of the for those that's not, that's not even possibly narrative, you know, it's, it's not, it's worth that. so it's come us talking point, that's what it gets down to it, you know, charged. you know, i've talked about this a lot. i mean, when we look at the situation in ukraine, we look at the situation. but guys, in israel, these are all craving choices. these are choices people make. okay. and, you know, we've had to meaningful attempts at britain having some kind of peace process in ukraine. detailed by the west, by the americans. we, we haven't even heard from this white house, you know, with strange negotiations. we haven't even heard those words. and then you have the european union running around like it's, it's like a chicken with its head cut off. ok. you know, in support of israel. i mean, why it's never really explains these are craven choices, george? exactly right. they are, and i think the biden is who he has always been. i me,

yes, he's them, old dominion said a big a now and is obviously is suffering severely from dementia, but he has always been a new car. i mean, right from the style of history, you know, 19 seventy's and eighty's. he has always been an avid intervention, as an avid spokesman on behalf of the us phone policy making your lead. and, and he is, this is what he's about, you know, big game back in the ninety's. he was the most rabid, good advocate for bombing the subs. and so it isn't surprising that in his approach the lease, he kind of it focused on where, you know, where, where is the, the foreign policy media and military industrial complex position. this is it, any, any sites i'm not going to even make the slide. this pretense as previous presidents have done all being even handed is right away. just so incomplete the

identify themselves with israel and that, and as i said, he hasn't stopped tool. okay. the other one thing which was the attack on october, the 7th, nothing. it's all about anything that's happened since then. and again, it is blinking, it goes through is wireless. as i come here as a june, i mean if you scroll just above for a secretary of state, again, normally the united states as bill, supposedly the owner is broke a mediator. and i suppose he doesn't do it now on the question of ukraine. it's a game he is this you, this policy very single mindedly, which is the side without any and all attempts to come to some sort of a settlement. so it's just been an interview. bob, based with former chancellor gerhard schroeder, it was as a he too, had been involved in the early days of mediating something between ross and you're right. he too, and he's explicit about it was rebuffed by the united states. that's who he is, and nothing is a he has said since october, the 7th would indicate any american interest in any of them for some sort of

a human what. what makes this really sensical and even really dangerous. martin is that, you know, when you look at the correlation of forces around israel, this is about 20 years ago, 25 years ago. we have um hezbollah, which is a very potent political for in political and military boards. and um, instead of, you know, taking the, taking a step from the away from the of this is they're actually encouraging naming to the point where do you think the biochemistry, she really wants a, a total out because they want total victory. so you're gonna have to make a total commitment, go ahead marble. and that's where the best, where the dilemma risk to apply to. and he wants to see and wants to support as well as much that kind of mentioned y'all who doesn't know his dream. but he hasn't got the goals, he hasn't got the class really hasn't got the the of the money in the bank to go the whole 9 yards, which is why i think it was a huge mistake to send the site before 5 destroy is not on the coast because i,

i know i can understand the logic behind that he was showing support to these really to say i'm the, if you need me, but you can't do the was just a token. because when you do that to hezbollah and the rainy, and joe, you're really playing russian roulette with. not one glitch in the 6 round chamber, but 3 bullets. you know, you're spending the barrel and, you know, who knows what would come out of it. the real worry for me is by them is out of his depths. don't really understand the implications of jordan has split way around, inter regional war. these rallies, know they comp site, a war on 2 fronts. it's just too big. it's took stream and the americans would never, ever support and with such a venture. so what do we got left? we've got a lot of the paper tigers in the room pretending to, to be powerful conflicts and then muscles. but at the end of it is just a narrative and lies. i'm an installation. what next meal i'm going to do it is he's squeezing by to is going in by the throat. and he's saying, look,

i can easily exterminate only a 1000 guys that people tomorrow they can drop that like flies. how you're going to handle that politically, your country with the press, you know, he's got him that type. and that's what this whole 2 monetary of. so called project is a little about letting 20 trunk same 20 trucks the extending your argument. and i'm the name this program, a re racing palestine because that's what it's all about. okay. and now for you, there may not be another opportunity to come in and they, you know, get, you know, every time there's a crisis, it's turned into an opportunity for these people here. and that's what, that's what, uh, a netanyahu's government wants they want. they want to be, they want to be able to, to minute atrocity and get away with that george. like mike, good ideas of what i think so, but i think it's a doomed thing should do it the raise the sun. i mean, these are, let's try that before. uh with not any great success. i mean is problem

is that, you know, yeah, we're gonna raise biased that we're going to invest, we're going to do that, and the other bed you have to have to do it. you have to go in there and do the job . and israel as shown itself in the boss to be on willing to do that and that job because it was an apple sustained, didn't know, most casualty, is it so, and he doesn't want to do it. you know, we have to talk about, you know, tens of thousands of, uh, that is rated and is rarely shown that it's not willing to do it. so, at the moment, i mean, it's all lost. i mean, you know, weeks go by and i haven't done anything. oh, or what we're about to go in and we're about to go and maybe they will. but from everything that we know of israel in the box, they don't actually like the getting the hand to hand come back. making polarized they can style, they can deny medical treatment and so on. and you know and threaten. but they don't like sending in their infantry a lot of traffic gentle. gonna have to have a hard break here. and after that hard break,

we'll talk about the possibility of israel's land war against scouts of state with our to the 1898 of the united states won the war again, spain and gain control of the philippines. the people of the philippines held that the americans would help over throw spanish rule and the grand independence through the country. but the united states was by no means willing to give freedom to the philippines and saw it as just another colony in 1999. the filipinos began armed resistance to the new occupier of american troops were barely able to occupy

the territory of the philippine republic. but that patriot started a debt breast available. our washington was forced, as in new reinforcements and triple the number of its troops on the islands. the us army suffered heavy losses. the americans took it out on the population. general jacob smith, in revenge for the gorilla attack on the garrison in the city of fall on ega porter to kill everyone over 10 years old. the monstrous gulf of terror, according to the most conservative estimates, lead to the death of about 200000 philippines. the americans manage to suppress the guerrillas only 14 years after the beginning of the war. but the united states was not able to stop the national liberation struggle of the filipino peoples in 1946. after the decades of the dramatic ordeal, the philippines was finally able to achieve the independence. the

a welcome act across software, all things are considered and peter a little, this is the home addition to remind you were discussing some real minutes. the let's go back to my lives, thoughts about the possibility of a land war here. over the last few days, pep talks from the defense minister gonna go onto the troops. you know, next you can see guns over there soon. you will see you guys have room with in with him the all the some, you know, psych office you know, for the, for the media and all of that. but realistically i think it's weeks is george has already mentioned in the 1st part of the brother. it's very, very problematic, but the problem is, is it, mark me,

basically israel's calling card in the region is been deterrence. now that deterrence was undermined on october 7 in a major way. and it's only deterrence in fear that keeps is real safe within what, what it doesn't even define its borders. but what could be when it calls itself the state of israel, but it needs to get that deterrence back or else some, there is a whole world of bad things are going to happen here one way or another martin? yeah, the main vaccine is the possibility of deterioration or a complete collapse of israel as we notice. i don't think that's makes that duration. i think that's what the stakes all i mean, and that's and you know, who knows that seats, he's got some of the political pressure on him to pull a rabbit out of the mothers is really explained to talk to her about the 7th. but i don't think most just really is up behind him with this idea of uh, a new on slow the new campaign on the go, the,

those 11 into 70 is i've come which is around a lot. and i can tell you one of the list or best kept secrets in the middle east, is how pull these really is when we talk about infantry. because or the tank single grace investigated with an to cover the 1st infantry in for treatment on the ground . boots on the go is where the sun is all that good. when they and when that was proved, when they took on the hezbollah, 2006, that was the i reported on that, you know, and that's the big worry from this. and you can send and type divisions into because some of those times we blown up some might be captured, you know, we need the real flashing if he's going to take out the pendulum. so i'm just going to take on so it how much in, in the, in guns that will be on the ground to be soldiers and how many, what's the, what's the magic figure out? how many can you afford to lose? and how many can you know afford to lose? i would say 100. so i wouldn't go with just regular to thousands. i would say when it gets to 56700 idea of soldiers slow to it's good. they but the dilemma it takes

20 afford not to go in george, it can able to go in whether he, he has options. i mean, he can basically he can turn to buy them and, and off bite. and really, well, why don't you tell me not to do this once it's only pay you bought it? i'll do is you buy it, we don't, we don't want a, a, a blood by some, right? well if you say so i'm not going to do it. so that's a way to get out of it just as well. i couldn't do anything because the americans, you know, stayed my hand and, and i, we gone for that with the americans. so that is a way that he can get out of this. so, i mean, i mean i, i don't disagree with the mother and he made it may be hundreds. i mean, it may, may be thousands, but the fact is that is the way it has lost hundreds in the past. and bullying was and you know that and they bench to overcome them because victory. it's a, is, was a successful at the end of the road. i've done it. they last about

a 1000 people in the ninety's 67 war. but nonetheless, they continued in a breaking out of a champagne for years subsequently. um, but in this case, it's small to see what this victory would look like a little bit to destroy it. how much i mean, how much is you know, it's all about it. and then not just going to go in and the big, the mouth house, the house that is a very, very messy operation. not just house that house that have to go through the tunnels and everything that's, that's all going to be in an easy task. you know, going through all the tunnels. so, you know, you know, they just like they lose even, you know, several 100 ext uh, several 1000 without any successful outcome of the and well then that will have been a failure. so then the question is, you know what, how far with israel go, and that's an interesting question. how far is israel willing to escalate? is he is willing to use nuclear weapons and what else you say that? no, no, no, of course not. i don't know is that you can say the same thing about israel. oh, i think it's very much on the table here because the stakes are so high because

martin we've just heard over the last what 2 weeks is that? you know, we don't negotiate with terrorists. they is really government doesn't want the big o'shea with a mouse over hostages guitar is doing that. you know, other i n g o's and whatnot, l o. and then you do a reverse in decide, we're going to leave a mouse standing after everything that's been said in the words matter, words matter a lot. and he, you can, um, you know, if words were bells, who kept and brings up. okay. and this is the dilemma again, i keep stressing this is, these are all been choices and no reality is sitting in here and, and again, like i said, martin is a, it's deterrence. they've lost that. go ahead. oh yeah, they listen to turn some i think if, if, if much time policy is nothing you know, who will lose the credibility of being this great will top is great and need to choose me. i think he's already tubs that mean that the whatever resolution there

is, he's out the door. i would i to be as a plane on the tarmac, the old up go ahead to get to go back to george's point. the um, i think is right. i said, i think the time the so now in the much luxury center is that he doesn't launch a huge ground offensive. he doesn't need to be what i believe very strongly and i've been lost it on the internet for saying this. i think they're looking at a policy of repeating the holocaust. i think they want to stop hundreds of thousands of dollars. and so, you know, they don't need to send the soldiers in, but how much of the, the effect that i would have on, on unless it would be possibly my break the will of a lot of young man or, you know, with that, that's the way it is what it is you're thinking and if button is not strong, spine is not so you know, we, we will see a west, a complacent west. that is some loops to, to these realities that are looking at. and they will just close the rise and pretend that isn't really happening on both sides. we'll be talking americans,

these raise we talking about a political conundrum. you know, we would just tell me we can't quite decide what to do. but in the meantime, another 100000 people just dropped dead light flights. you know, i think that's possibly the main things that mission, yahoo is, is the gentleman if there isn't a land in encouraging the land invasion then with martin is just said there is the policy is and if, and from what i can tell, i obviously do not watch cnn, but i've been told in the last few hours that they do all of their reporting from comfortable places and tell them even jerusalem. so they don't any images, any images of gaza at all. okay, just talk to people on board. the unfortunate people that have their loved ones, you've got to be in, i'm the gaza strip, but that's about it. so my point, george is the reinforce. what we've just been said here is just go report on it just as the population is cold. it's a cali george. well, yes, it is

a thing that i'm going to see just guys. a we'll continue with is obviously the objective in mind, or just simply kidding office population. but even of cnn, those are a boat. and even if the west in the public won't know very much about it, the people in the middle east will know about the janet again, it will have is, or it will have different. so this avoiding a wide scale wor, um, because the people, you know, his father will know about this. i will know that you are basically just starving a population to death. and that would still is, or it will still have that problem on the time, which is that has, but i will get in, i mean, they'll be able to. so what i mean by tomorrow, and i think that's an excellent point here. so if we, if we set up a, we agree that the land invasion is just type in the, in, in, in lieu of another policy. but basically the ethnic cleansing, do you think hezbollah would stand buying in the,

in watch because they that to be period the case right now is that israel is hesitant to have a landing page and because it will, will be, it will see a post blog intro the of the com click on this side of the palestinians, but even if the policy is just starving, the amount of calling do you think has beloved would intervene even under those circumstances? at some point? yeah, i mean it has blah and the wrong just in a country to what ms. west novelist might like to see it has been running around playing very, very cool. call to keep your very cool hedge. and i'm watching that day today. um, situation development, i think if we get to the point where we're looking at what is clear that is the policy, then i think you'll see at least a certain amount of destruction. destructive attacks from has belong to um, scuffles plus buddha exchanges a govern. heights exchange about to read that will be the end of the glitch. and then they'll see how is real in a place that the big worry here,

the religious that you know a little while right now, but this is going to escalate originally. and i wonder if that's now who was thinking of to know them. buddha, in another world with a, with his beloved as a, as a account to wage to what he's not doing and done so, you know, he might think there are victories that the americans know. the hezbollah has approximately a 100000 rockets, which are quite sophisticated programs, as we speak, targeted to cumulative installations, power stations, government buildings, you know, and there's no way that they're gonna, america is going to allow that to happen. but the worry is miscalculation and the worry is that we are being treated by nets now who in a certain point he will create a false flag attack between hezbollah and those american ships. and that's my worry . that's what i think the, you know, huge. it is excellent and our suspicion, george, why is the united states supporting israel the way it does mean?

what is the strategic interest security interest? this is what the photos me is confuse me all my life. one question. yeah, yeah, no i, i don't know what's answerable, i'm putting george on the spot as i easily do, but he does. it usually comes back with a good one. go ahead or. yeah, i don't know if i can come up with a good one because i don't think it's a very good on simple. this is never has israel done anything at all? for the united states though, to strengthen the united states as position of the united states as formulate the it's foreign policy of what was the beginning from this to the time that the state of israel was created, which was solving the refugee problem adhering to resolution to for to withdrawal from the occupied territories, no set the lens of and eventually a 2 state solution. all of these positions of the, of the american government has of head to this royal. this just basically defied the united states. we also know about all these things like the of the back on the

us as liberty, which was never explain, you know, the family, you know, go on and on. israel has never done anything. it's all like nights the states. but get the united states is continually showering gifts on israel and all seeing nothing in between them and the, you know, it's really interesting to me at the end on this point here, but going back to bite and speech. she's uh, absolutely to, to the, to the hilt supporting 2 s no fanatical regimes, one in israel, and one in ukraine. where are those rules space to order? a little space order, gentleman, i don't know or i don't, and that's all the time we have one to think, my guessing, marrakech and in budapest, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here. are to see you next time. remember across apples, the way i didn't yet i love you. done boss. my names. so furious maximus

train. i'm an american citizen and then yes. which is why i'm here to show you back home to the west. the truth, and as you can see, my government supplied weapons of struck for civilian area. this isn't a military target, this is a grocery store, does go to, my gosh, i can't imagine how these people have worked like this for 9 years. and there are children here. i'm telling you that have died because of my government, the united states governments, funding of this list. more of the baby start here in a civilian populated area. we civilians. right here, you can see an impact of the seas are. so this makes me angry.

i'm sorry. oh, i mean i know, but still you know, you feel responsible as an american the, as all forces were hiding and civilian structures. the machine gun nest that we saw outside from the courtyard, the nazi tattoos on his body. our journey is that it's good versus, and i pray that and i pray that victory comes soon and i believe it will the same rom just don't have to shape house because an engagement equals the trail. when so many find themselves will depart, we choose to look so common ground the,

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