the hi nation or tent saying welcome back to going undergrad, real gosh, to go around the world from the u. e. m is global outraged at the ongoing violence in the middle east for long dr. joint view, a rush or a resolution of the un security council for a cause a ceasefire, was opposed by france, japan, britain in the usa. the way of course, is also the center of well detention because of next month's comp 28 climate conference where geopolitical ria configurations. as regards global energy markets will play a key role in attenuating any response to man made climate change. joining me from jetta in global energy superpower, saudi arabia is before my senior advisor to saturdays minister of petroleum and former chief sadie. negotiate with the you and framework. conventional and climate change. dr. muhammed also bon to thank you so much dr. out. so bunch are coming on the show before we even get to the global impact economically of the catastrophic

events in the region. your take on the slowest are in gaza from war planes by the united states, european union countries and britain. unfortunately, uh there was, is practicing endeavor to send uh they, they were saying, well, let us normalize relationship with visit i and we are, you are in one or asian and as i should have do, or the solution of to a space. but then with the i trust i see that is happening in god's that we see that they are fully support. the thing is i and the brain getting shifts. and so again, it's a 2000 and sort of just come in and they as a way out on this side of it, i, i, this is not only the united states, but uh, or uh, listed in categories. and this is not surprising. they have the support thing,

is it a for a long time and they add on the giving live services to the leaders when they meet with them that way. yeah, we can support the united nation uh now uh to go back to an idea of success as in bought a better with the jeff. easier way for them to be the cabinet and also for the size, but they never when, when we come to achieve our implement such i understand they, they start to move the the civil commission is included in the 4 categories. the committee is a committee that to them what they are doing and nothing basically because there was, i do not assist in particular. they don't want to offer on this issue. so we see, sorry for what's happened in that last tuesday when we started the hospital being bombard,

i'm more than 500 uh victims resulted from that bombardment. i'm we so the next day when president buyer then visited is that i would say one. it says not visa, highly team. we did this is the other team as if we are in a football game and the other tv means how much, how much on those days today at all gets to the settlement. i would side because uh how come it is nobody companies that so it sure is it shows the blind uh side and this was uh, is that i why the hood there is so the whole award winning different a city and we have seen the immunization here and there, and there was and, and data born and then what's the name on the, on woods, they fill

a senior because they are seeing the process. the, the, i see the genocide that is being before and the area. and that is not acceptable to any wise man or woman. and or because israel denies all sorts of things as regards what's happening in gaza. but did it surprise even you, i mean, did, when you were advising this out of the government. did anything like this happened? the king abdullah of jordan, would cancel the meeting with an american president who flies in the, you know, very nothing to us president flu in the 2nd intifada. but the idea that the a leader of egypt would not meet with the u. s president, the obviously the palestinian authority is one of the bus, the beleaguered lead to the didn't but uh they did surprise is, is that the jordan one did nothing to do with biting, nor did egypt was enough to fly associated meeting kind of said because what what

do they need to meet with for? if anything is clear storms that vision storm with the killing a sub with the uh, the fire as in the gaza. and try to withdraw from the guys that it's as simple as that. but with the addresses, the most is right that they don't want it. they want to continue this slaughter because war. so why we have, i mean, so as i said ma'am, would that both live to uh, the west bank. i mean, he had the, uh, the leasing with the government. um then, uh uh, can you go john bill. uh, cancel the meeting. according to the closest ation with the age of shyanne. uh, president a cc. i'm and anybody else was going, it was going to attend the meeting. i don't see any reason for that meeting. and i

think a day of the solution is very clear on that they won't the meeting, but then the united states in the security council last year was the last tuesday they have the day before last tuesday they stop a block, the decision to a so i have c is 5. so what kind of this discussion consultation that should go on on uh on this issue? yeah. in fact, as the americans use the dead women and children from the christian hospital in gaza as an excuse as to why the meeting didn't to go to plan. and that somehow the morning period along some muslims meant the bite and could meet with the account of lots. but of course, um, i mean, you're saying you wouldn't surprise the suez canal is in egypt. as i mean hosting.

mubarek clearly wouldn't have done the same. i mean, does this have implications that much more profound than a gyptian leader would refuse to meet with the united states leader? no, we all support the what the decision being taken by easier by uh, can you just from jonathan? definitely in the substance situation, any wise man, any wisely, that would never go to such a meeting to discuss the very obvious solution to the problem and they know what they need to do. okay, well sorry, you're not saying it as i make implication then for this who is canal trade. but nato nation media are claiming and have been claiming that savvy recognition of israel is still on the table normalization this, this phrase, which is the use of, i mean, did you believe the reports that were also link to that a and b. s kept blinking, waging when he was around this region,

desperately trying to presume we seek support from this and the other is not going to see the support. he was coming to say that abs 20 via the normalization excellence. and there is, there was supposed to be congress and integrations coming through so that he meant to do the same. but so that a, the position is very clear from day one that we have and the other initiative on the table for many, many years. and we need to revise that and made it. it is a very clear, but it is also it'd be nice as a nation decision that we need to have a 2 state solution. one uh for the, for the city is on the 1960 stuff in border with each other with the escape it then i know, so they tell me going to join on hi. i'm months out ash i live in,

in on the jewish estate. if this is not happening, we will never accept in and normalize ation. at least this is my understanding. on the last tuesday, the 1000 of the ministers are so they're abs. and he stated this physician. and they said that be a, uh, a very sad about the what the, the huge number of casualties and guys that i had the only solution is to have to say, when does your to with and then it's got everything. okay. or i will, i will assign it is only that is the united states position, despite the fact may be to the sci fi. as you know of can i say that if that didn't surprise you, the fact that that or bleed is, are refusing to meet with president biden? nothing like this has ever happened. the foreign minister of a ron,

flying in for the extraordinary meeting of the is that big conference in a way us meetings to me from? i mean, what did you make is that i mean that, that never happened when you were advising this. how do you government, 1st of all, but i what sort of alarm do you think of that goal is in the nature of nation countries? and what do you make of why he flew in, in the, in the middle of the night. when the that show is that's a stomach, entities are very serious. they are not happy with the website is happening in does that. and if it continues, that would mean that she is not on the the out of countries. but the same company is malaysia, said that it on many other countries that base cannot access and they cannot access to continue. this is a big strategy a when you see children, mothers and killing and b can. and then could i any, any, what is

a human emotion is what is the meaning of the human? this is jennifer and i think would be a slam if a confidence organization which makes the on last wednesday, i think. and basically, i'm decision that this should stop, i'm or otherwise it wouldn't be a split a into a huge and then it's not an international war. between is it i under as of the stomach and out of board? i don't know if it's the american aircraft carrier is causing the interference, but that seems to be a bit of freezing there in the link from that jet it to you by. i have to say um, the thing is when a russian speak is where being shelled 14000 debt in don't pass rusher came to the rescue as it will all be the critics of pigeons. a came to life when this is happening in gaza. as you said, these woods, whichever,

echoing all around the islamic world as well as we are a world that's about it, isn't, it's no rush, i'm sure a lot of support. no, no i, what i mean was russia went and acted some say, belatedly to save the people have done best. the arab world is not going in to save the people of guys. are they? when is it says continue, is that ice continues that can also see on the coming on sending a gods out and asking guys that people to go to migrate to easiest or to jordan adulthood. so let me go include the god of war. when we say, you know, and they will go into a fight, they in order to at least stop the aggravation of is that it is that your lives are nothing without the united states. when they saw that the united states is on their

side, they start to show that they are, they can do what they want. this is not a sense and cannot be accepted by any to hold out on board. and this, let me go talk to mom and else i'll stop you there. more from the for my senior advisor. decide you write this minister petroleum up to this break the oh, sure seemed wrong. just don't

you have to safe house after care and engagement equals the trail. when so many find themselves will support. we choose to look for common ground, the the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with one of the senior advisers is how do you rate these minister petroleum dr. muhammed also bond no trusts about in part one. you are talking that about the fact that will be some kind of response. but of course, if there isn't any, got a military response to save the people of guys that from the hour will do the islamic world biden has his aircraft carriers, the gerald, the ford, and the eyes, and how the masses, multi $1000000000.00 a pieces of weaponry as the people of guys of stop and die,

well for him, i suppose oil is one weapon which design, if a they reduce production, which they have announced continuations of reductions of production. it also helps the environment. do you expect uh oh, big plus to dramatically with use production to the sort i answer this question, what's, what's happening with the military as far as is being different from the united states to your claim? yeah, it did nothing and does not change that is uh, so does to be a sort of pride, is that why are we kind of stop the american aggregation medicaid? they know that they cannot fight against this, allow me cool. and they know that this is the edison, they want to 5 to risk you with those and guys. so it is nonsense that took the day, escaped us with the a be a with the or war ships. um, uh,

some, uh, some military forces. they have different funds, they have the chinese, but i'm, they, i pressure on funds and they cannot slide is really where i think that actually i will not stay silent. and then i says, stop to do anything in there is a to coming, coming to you with a question. i know we will not be hasty to review is federal reviews i want to or in production. i list the, the, the problem that i'm innovated unless the is i, is not listening to the voice of wisdom. and then we will have to nothing but to use our oriend for election in order that to a letter as a whole. or this is something serious that's being taken by the or in for to do

a service and doing a, or of course, bizarrely that will help the united states economy in terms of oil exports because the price of oil will rise. yeah. how wide spread would you say your opinions are as regards what's happening then in, in guys of the slaughter? because, you know, over the years we've seen how the children and grandchildren of people and it's a young young countries in the gc, educate that children the leads in west and universities. i know you were educated in the, in the united states. but how wide lee is this understood this little during closet as the way you're talking about it? i, you don't get the impression that there's a loss of faith and solidarity in the palestinian people in recent years. in gcc countries, you know, i, they, the main problem is that this is not a whole in print using against is issue. it is and

a slamming issue. and when f a d from a sending an issue is uh, entity, but is issue a new how see it, immunization is not limited to this. let me call him, but his strength and the okay. and tries in germany even though those cancelled as well. i've said that we are democratic society and then now i've had to do my decision based try to stop these, this immunizations. this is ridiculous, that's on the sound that, that there was to is have a, this is at the end of a slow the canadian problem when we saw it without the out of giving you clean, if anything they want in order that a to list it like instead of 5, i'm like, and when it comes to the sign they is, and they headed to the ag edition of a good a. so the, so, and they,

and we out and that's what it's about our children who are listening and they were taking advantage of cation, they can't go anywhere and down, by the way, uh, the juice, se is going to the ace we already established. but the relationship with china with the relationship when i side with the relationship with india, i'm, this is an app, repetitive to daniel international and all that i would share the with wouldn't be i'm on the day. is that a my and that a power is in the new one? so if this has not been recognized by that was, it would be too late later on, do it okay. now is it because they will have no power to show? now the security counseling isn't data and they don't want the inside of they will on the different on the i m s, the one that says that they are dropped to say yeah,

but then that is not the democracy that as they are reflecting hit on that so they need to stop that. they need to know that the world has indiscipline too many part of that they need to achieve santibanez between the different policies in order to achieve the stabilization, i avoid any in the nation anymore. yes. as regards freedom of expression, obviously frances band, palestinian demonstrations, talk and breathing of a binding, the palestinian flag and this on top of what's happening to julie and assigns. but i have to say is your age and i need to decide to arrange, you're prepared for the on slow. it's also called main stream corporate propaganda media renae donations as they attack saudi arabia and gcc countries. already headlines will start to appear about the human rights records of jesus

e countries as a weapon against your country, for a not bowing down to washington, you prepared for that this, this weapon, if it is the so it is useless, we get used to it. and this is not working, we, because we have our do this, you know, you seem and we were, you know what we are doing. and we didn't pay any attention to assess criticism. please. i asked, there was to criticize them send before they at 10 to criticize other countries, including my so yeah, and that's what it i know they're trying to be awarded and this message has been delivered by our crown prince and how about this? and i'm very clearly, especially when the president by then can still saturday'd be asking to increase or in production asking to buy and then i shaw from uh oh, okay. plus congregation. and we say we turn in no,

no way. so now and the balance power was an you'll economic, i mean, international, the automatic, they cannot, we cannot accept auto betters or any criticism from any country. because we, you know, we are doing that, i think, and we have our agency is that when people take the, an individuals a well comp to many ages happening in the u. a soon do you think uh, given your role in uh, climate change dynamics and geo politics in for the saudi arabian kingdom. do you think the joe biden blinking the jake sullivan, newland care about the environment, given what happened to the north stream pipeline given as you just said, that they desperately wanted the increases in the oil production to lower the price of a gas, whilst at the same time that's petroleum,

but is it while of the same time wanting to massively increase l. n. g from franks gas in texas to western europe. when this is another case of the sun, but is it in by then is giving permissions to different orange companies and different gas companies to increase production. and of the same time the us, the other countries and the other international companies are investing internationally to stop. because of the environment. ok, believe that and this situation to start to uncover is a u. k. if you out from the u. k, they allow and no c a producer to continue exploring the producing or 11 gas in the notes to see them. but

any other did, none of them are allowed at that. do you think it's all in line when they talked about the environment? they don't care about this problem in this village that there was that meeting last week of the uh, oil companies in london. and to get it up on the other environment then or the agency, is there a way to gather a uh, besides the inter continental with a lender on there with the shelby sub always so okay. this is a think and what the what do you use? uh when i get it, uh, if you know, had a young young man on there she left to have had a temporary um, had a score in order that there was a link that says the environment. i'm the only person that anything on the c or to why the convention a g a u n. a c c convention talking about,

oh really now is guys is in the or 6 this. and they are also said that was supposed to very fee should be equal among, or countries. even though the higher the conventions say in the that there is a common but differentiated us about so really the sort of a so apply this for this event and based on invest that they are responsible. the industrialized countries will know that the environment for a long time, and they not only deal with various sources, but also saying so they are telling me that on convention and the whole agreement and to an all in agreement. why is there a subsidizing core? and then just set eyes categories, they are within the heavy taxes or the or and when they talk about kind of on desk,

basically they're so big guys are they simply designate that. so these are still in the center. so i, i don't think it does being discover many delegations, many countries the same, the same that still a pharmacy system. what you are doing, you are doing good wrong to the environment and asking if one of these countries to bed, he's better than this is nonsense. i'm glad that i. shan funny. yeah, i do. so the other dental is to pay financially to therefore the countries in order to produce more than your words. so i just the very briefly though, i ask you about the sound bugger, cause why do you have and then mentioned notes are just very, very briefly the danger of a nuclear threat from israel given as you say, the unity against israel level what's happening and gaza they avenue say, well when they use it is that i would use the nuclear power if it

be available, the next a condemned visit. i is for him for a position and they're having a new, clear problem. and the my nice, i'm the making a lot of hectic and chat with the again is and it can city who is going to have near clear to even meet the staff in new york letter energy including the so i'm not defending here on but the i'm saying you that this is another, the devil to send the why and why you are allowing is that i to on the new, clear to power why leo prevent others from doing this? when they say, when is that i is right? what is the wisdom we see now nowadays, and gods that there is no wisdom adore it. they said they were, we would continue to bring by them. is that the way guys out from or

a citizen and as a citizen? so this is never to set a head to so this is nonsense photo to say that, okay, obviously as rail denies the nuclear weapons expos by motor kind of you know, dr. mom and alice about a oh no document else. right. and i do thank you. that's it for the show, and the condolences from the whole team here i'm going underground. but those bree by the ongoing violence in the middle east, will be back with a brand new episode on saturday until then keep in touch by the social media. if it's not sensitive in your country and had to have channel going on, grantee on, rumbled, i'll come to what you handled episodes of going underground saturday, the

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the is that the images coming from gaza with a death soul as the past 5000 children are back in the front of the dead. they conflicts with locals. those overwhelmed is where the communities scramble through were in so identify buddies in the wake of the hamas websites 2 weeks ago talking findings the week tunnel and verified. coming on to see what was the present lady. she was pictured to open. the stomach was push it open. there was a mature instance in that stomach that on.