of the, the time action or time seeing welcome back to going underground real ga, single, around the world from the u. e. m. is global outraged at the ongoing violence in the middle east for a long dr. joint view, a rush or a resolution of the un security council for a cause a ceasefire, was opposed by france, japan, britain, in the usa. the u. e. of course is also the center of world detention because of next month's comp 28 climate conference where geo political ria configurations. as regards global energy markets will play a key role in attenuating any response to man made climate change. joining me from jetta in global energy superpower, saudi arabia is the,

for my senior advisor to saudis, minister of petroleum and former chief sadie, negotiate with the un framework. conventional in climate change. dr. muhammed, also by to thank you so much dr. out. so bonds are coming on the show before we even get to the global impact economically of the catastrophic events in the region . your take on the slaughter and gaza from war planes to buy the united states, going to be in union countries and britain. unfortunately, uh there was, is practicing deborah to send the uh they, they were saying when let us normalize relationship with visit i and we are, you are in one or asian and as i should have, i do, or i have the solution of to a space. but then with the i process, see that is happening and guys that we see that they are 20 some supporting is i

and they are bringing ships. and so again, it's a 2000 and sort of just come in and they as a way out on this side or is it i, i, this is not only the united states, but uh on uh, listed in categories. and this is not surprising. they have the support thing is a for a long time and they add on the giving the live services to the out of leaders when they meet with them that way. yeah, we can support the united nation. uh now uh to go back to an idea of success as in bought a data with the jeff, easier way for them to be the cabinet and also for the size. but they never when, when we come to achieve our implement such i understand they really try to move the the since what i lack of mesa is included in the 4 categories. the committee is

a committee that to them what they are doing and nothing basically because there was and do not assist in particular. they don't want to off on this issue. so we see a sorry for what happened in that last tuesday when we started the hospital being bombard, i'm more than 500 uh fixed. as a result, it's from the bottom and i'm we so the next day when president buyer then visited is that i would say one, it says not visa, highly team. we did a, it is a, as a team, as if we are in a football game. and that a tv means how much, how much on those days today, it all gets to the settlement outside the guys. uh, how come it is nobody companies that so it sure is it shows the blind uh side of this with uh is that i why the whole that is over the

whole award um with the city and we have seen the immunization here on there. and there was a, as in data board and then what's the name on the, on woods. they fill a senior because they are seeing the process. the, the, i see the genocide that is being before and the area. and that is not acceptable to any wise man. or woman and or because israel denies all sorts of things as regards what's happening in gaza. but did it surprise even you, i mean did, when you were advising this out of the government. did anything like this happened? the king of daughter of jordan would cancel the meeting with an american president who flies in the you know, very nothing to us. president flew in the 2nd intifada,

but the idea that a leader of egypt would not meet with the u. s. president. the obviously the palestinian authority is one of the bus, the beleaguered lead to the didn't but uh they did surprise as you that the jordan one did nothing to do with biting, nor did egypt was enough to fly associated meeting kind of said, because what, what do they need to meet with for if anything is clear and stop the vision storm with the killing a sub with the uh, the fires and the guys that i try to withdraw from the guys that it's as simple as that. but with the addresses he is right that they don't want it. they want to continue with this water because it was. so why do we have, i mean, so i, as i said, ma'am with our best lives to, uh, the uh, west bank i the, he had the uh, the meeting with the government. um then uh uh,

can you go john bill cast the meeting according to the closest ation with the egyptian. uh president a cc i'm and anybody else was going it was going to liked in the meeting. i don't see any reason for that meeting. and i think a day the solution is very clear on that they won't the meeting, but then the united states in the security council last year was the last tuesday. they have the day before last tuesday, they stop a block, the decision to a so i have c is 5. so what kind of this discussion consultation that should go on on, on this issue? yeah, in fantasy americans use the dead women and children from the christian hospital in

gaza as an excuse as to why the meeting didn't to go to plan and that somehow the morning period along some muslims meant the bite and could meet with the account of thoughts but of course, um, i mean you're saying you weren't surprised the suez canal is in egypt. as i mean hosting the buyer clearly wouldn't have done the same. i mean, does this have implications that much more profound? they've been a gyptian leader, would refuse to meet with the united states leader. no, we all supported to what this decision being taken by. easier by uh, can you jump on jonathan? infinitely in such a situation, any wise man, any wise leader would never go to such a meeting to discuss the very obvious solution to the problem and they know what they need to do. okay, we're sorry, we're not saying it as i make implication then for the suez canal dray,

but they donation media are claiming and have been claiming that side of the recognition of israel is still on the table. normalization this, this phrase, which is the use of, i mean, did you believe the reports that we're also relate to that a and b. s. kept blinking. waging, when he buzzed around this region, desperately trying to presume we seek support from this and the other is not going to see the support. he was coming to say that abs 20 via the normalization excellence. and there is, there was supposed to be congress and integration coming to say that he meant to do the same. but so that a, the position is very clear from day one, that we have another initiative on the table for many, many years. and we need to revise that and to the main thing,

it is a very clear, but it is also the method nation decision that we need to have a 2 state solution. when uh for the, for the city is on the 1967 bought the with the easier with the escape it then and also the damage also joined on hi, i'm much at a ship i live in, in the jewish state. if this is not happening, we will never accept any normalization. at least this is my understanding. and last tuesday, the 1000 off of ministers are so the abs and he stated this position. and they said that be a, uh, a very sad about the what the, the huge number of casualties and guys that i, uh, the only solution is too hard to say. when did you order? was it?

um, it's got everything. okay. all right, well i wanna say it is only that is the united states position despite the fact may be to cease fi. as you know of can i say that if that didn't surprise you, the fact that the or bleed is, are refusing to meet with president biden? nothing like this has ever happened. the foreign minister of a ron, flying in for the extraordinary meeting of the is that big conference in a way us means to me from. i mean, what did you make is that i mean that, that never happened when you were advising this. how do you government, 1st of all, but i what sort of alarm do you think of that goal has been the nature of nation countries. and what do you make of why he flew in, in the, in the middle of the night. when that show as guides, a stomach into design, very serious, they are not happy with the website is happening in gaza. and if it continues that's within the she is not on the the out of countries. but the same

content is malaysia, said that it on many other countries that based on our next steps and they cannot accept to continue. this is a big strategy. hey, when you see children, mothers and killing it'd be can. and then could i any, any, what is a human emotion is what is the admin fee of human? this is jennifer. and i think what's the uh, is let me confidence the organization which makes the on last wednesday, i think, and basically i and this isn't that this should stop, i'm or otherwise it wouldn't be expedited into ideas. and then it's not an international war between is it i under as of the slumber, i got a board. i don't know if it's the american aircraft carrier is causing the interference. but that seems to be a bit of freezing there for in the link from that jet and to you by. i have to say

um, the thing is that when a russian speak is we're being shelled 14000 dead and don't pass rusher. came to the rescue as it will all be the critics of pigeons. a came too late when this is happening and gaza, as you said, these woods, whichever, echoing all around the is amick world as well as we are, will. that's about it isn't. it's notion of actually a lot of support. no, no i, what i mean was russia went and acted some se, belatedly to save. the people have done best. the arab world is not going in to save the people of god. they, when is it says continue, is it ice continues that can also see on the coming i've seen in a god's out on the ask the guys that people to go to migrate to egypt or to jordan or should i make war include the god of war when we

say, you know, and they would go into a fight, they in order to at least just tell them the aggregation office, that it is that your lives are nothing without the united states. when they saw that the united states is on their side, they start to show that they are, they can do what they want. this is not a sense and cannot be accepted by the whole out of world and this, let me call doctor, mom and else i'll stop you that more from the former senior advisor decide the rape is minister petroleum up to this break the

the, the, [000:00:00;00] the, the defense minister val on says israel wash its hands of guys that once it is completed as brown, military operation and vanquished amounts divided ministration is given israel. the green light to conduct its military operation as it pleases to go, of course,

is to completely erase pound spike and its people from the mount. the the welcome back to going underground facility with former senior advisors is how do you rate these minister petroleum delta mohammed us about no trusts about in part one. you are talking that about the fact that will be some kind of response because if there isn't any, got a military response to save the people of guys that from the, our will, the as not make world biden has, is aircraft carriers. the gerald, the ford, and the eyes, and how the masses, multi 1000000000 dollar pieces of weaponry as the people of guys of stuff and die.

well for him, i suppose oil is one weapon which design, if a they reduce production, which they have announced. continuations of reductions of production. it also helps the environment. do you expect uh oh, big plus to dramatically with use production to the sort i onset of this question. what did what happen with the military as far as is being different from the united states to your claim? yeah, it did nothing and does not change that is so i don't to be a sort of price. that's why we kind of stop the american aggregation medicaid. they know that they cannot fight against this. let me call and they know that this is the edison. they want to 5 to risk you with those and guys. so it is nonsense that took the day, escaped us with the a be

a with the or war ships. um, uh, some uh, some elicit a forces. they have different funds. they have the chinese funds, they, i pressure on funds. and they can notify is really where i think that actually i will not stay silent is and then i says start to do anything in the ages of to coming, coming to you with a question. i know we will not be hasty to review as part of the deal is i want to or improve action unless the, the, the problem that i'm any safety unless the is i is not listening to the voice of wisdom and then we will have nothing but to use our oriend for election in order that to a letter as a whole, or that this is something serious that's being taken by the or in for to do

a service engine in a of course, bizarrely that will help the united states economy in terms of oil exports because the price of oil will rise. yeah. how wide spread would you say your opinions are as regards what's happening then in a in guys are the slower to because, you know, over the years we've seen how the children and grandchildren of people and it's a young young countries in the gc, educate that children the leads in west and universities. i know you were educated in the, in the united states, but i why believes this understood this lot, your advisor as the way you are talking about it. i, you don't get the impression that there's a loss of faith in solidarity in the palestinian people in recent years. in gcc countries, you know, i, they, the main problem is that this is not a,

our in producing against is issue. it is honestly, i mean issue, and when i try to id for me to send me an issue is uh interesting, but is the issue i knew how see the immunization is not limited to this. let me call him, but his strength and the ok and tries in germany, even though those countries want to say that we are democratic society and allow the immunization base, try to stop these, this immunizations. this is ridiculous. that's one of the limit of sound that, that the worst is having on this is that this has to be covered through the canadian problem. when we, so without the out of give a great if anything they want in order to list it and let it said 5, i'm looking for when it comes to put a sign are they is and they headed to the ag edition, i guess there are so and they, and we are,

and that's what it's about our children who are listening and that was taking advantage of cation. they can go anywhere and down, by the way, uh, the juice, se is going to the ace we already established. but the relationship with china with the relationship when i side with the relationship with india, i'm this is perfect and then you'll international all the which at the west wouldn't be among the days that a buying that a power of annual was. so is this has not been recognized by there was, it would be too late later on the united states because they will have no power to show now uh the security council lives and data manual with the incident. they will on the different, on the i, m. s, the one about assessing the draft to say that,

but then that is not the democracy that as they are reflecting hit on that. so they need to stop that. they need to know that the world has in this one to many part of that they need to achieve sad thing, valid us between the different policies in order to achieve the stabilization, i avoid any in the nation anymore. yes. as regards freedom of expression, obviously frances band, palestinian demonstrations, talking brandon of a binding, the palestinian flag. and this on top of what's happening to julian, this ons, but i have to say is your jet money to is audio radio prepared for the on slow. it's also called main stream corporate propaganda media renae donations as they attack saudi arabia and gcc countries. already headlines will start to appear

about the human rights records of gcc countries as a weapon against your country, for not bowing down to washington. you prepared for that. this, this weapon, if it is the so it is useless, we get used to it. and if is not working, we, because we a half hour to do this, you know, you seem and we were, you know what we are doing. and we didn't pay any attention to assessing criticism, please. i asked there was to criticize them send before they can to criticize other countries, including my so yeah, and that's what it i know they're trying to be awarded. and this message has been delivered by our crown prince. how about this and not very clearly, especially when the president by them can through saturday of yeah, asking to increase on production, asking to buy and then i shaw from all of that plus congregation and the reset. we

turn in no, no way. so now and the balance power was, you know, make, i mean, international, the automatic, they cannot, we cannot accept the auditors or any criticism from any country because we know we are doing that. i think and we have our agency is that when people take the, an individual's a well called to any age is happening in the u. a soon do you think uh, given your role in uh, climate change dynamics and geo politics in for this out of your radian kingdom. do you think the job id blinking jake sullivan, newland care about the environment given what happened to the north stream pipeline given as you just said, that they desperately wanted the increase in the oil production to lower the price

of gas, whilst at the same time and that's petroleum, but is it while of the same time wanting to massively increase l. n. g from frank gas in texas to western europe. when this is another case of the sun, but it is by then is giving permissions to a different orange companies and different gas companies to increase production. and the same time, the us, the other countries and the other international companies are investing internationally to stop because of the environment. oh, god believes it. and this situation it started to uncover. if a u. k, if you are from the u. k, they allow and no c a producer to continue

exploding and the producing or 11 gas in the notes to see them any other, none of them are allowed about do you think it's all a lie when they chose to buy the environment, they don't care about this problem in this village that there was that meeting last week of the, uh, oil companies in london. and to get into the environment then the edges, the way to godaddy uh, besides the inter continental with a lender on there with the shelby sub always. so the most is the more the what do you use uh, when i get it, uh, if you know, have a young young again. and then she left to have had a temporary, had a score in order that there was a link that says the environment. and the only places that i think on see or to why the convention

a g a u n. s c c convention talking about or maybe in house guys is in the or 6 is and they are also said that was supposed to very fee should be equal among, or countries. even though the higher the conventions say in the that there is a common but differentiated us about so really the sort of a so apply this for this event and based on invest that they are the responsibility in this. and i was going through this over no to the environment for a long time. and they not only did with there is a sources, but also saying, so they are telling me that on convention and the whole agreement into an all in agreement why. and they are a subsidizing card is just that, i guess it is. they are within the heavy taxes on the, on when they talk about kind of on desk. basically they're so big guys are they

simply designate that. so these are still in the center. so i, i don't think it does being discovered many delegations, management is saying the same that so the policy. so what do you are doing? you are doing good wrong to the environment and asking if one of these countries to bed he's better than this is nonsense. i'm going to as an funny. yeah, asking so the other countries to pay financially to do for the countries in order to produce more than your words. so i just can i just adjust very briefly though. ask you about the some bugger cause why do you have and then mentioned notes are just very, very briefly the danger of a nuclear threat from israel given as you say, the unity against israel level. what's happening and gaza. they avenue say, well,

when they use it a, is it a, is it either one use the nuclear power? is it be available? the next a condemned visit? i is for, for a position and they're having a new, clear problem and lima. nice. and they are making a lot of hectic show they again is and it can city who is going to have near clear to even meet the san from new york that energy including the so i'm not defending here on but the i'm saying you that this is another, the devil to send the why and why you are allowing is that i to on near, clear to power why leo prevent others from doing this? what did they say? when is it i is right. what is the wisdom we see now nowadays? and gods that there is no wisdom act or they said they were,

we would continue to run by them. is that the way guys out from or a citizen? and as a citizen? so this is devon said that had to so this is nonsense photo to say that okay, obviously as rail denies the nuclear weapons. expos, by motor car, you know dr. mom and out of somebody. oh no document else. right. and i do thank you. that's it for the show, and the condolences from the whole team here i'm going underground. but those bree by the ongoing violence in the middle east, will be back with a brand new episode on saturday until then keep in touch by the social media. if it's not sensitive in your country and had to have channel going undergoing tv on rumble, they'll come to a to you handle that sense of going underground. saturday. the

of the disturbing images from gaza where the dead soul surpasses 5000, including many children civilians are bearing the brunt of the devastating complex with locals. those overwhelmed across the board and israel community sit through ruins, to identify bodies in the wake of the hamas. that's like 2 weeks ago with some shocking on verify claims to be made on the ground. we saw she was a presence lady, she was push it open, the stomach was push it open. there was an image short and sent