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even get to the global impact economically of the catastrophic events in the region . your take on the slaughter and gaza from war planes by the united states square being union countries and britain. well unfortunately, uh there was, is practice taking them to send the uh they, they were saying when let us normalize relationship with visit i and we are, you are in one or asian and as i should have, i do, or i have the solution of to a space, but then with the i trust i see that is happening and guys that we see that they are fully supporting is i and they are bringing ships and saw jams, 2000 and sort of just come in and they as a way out on this side or is it i, i, this is not only the united states, but uh on uh, listed in categories. and this is not surprising. they have the support thing,

is it a for a long time and they add on the giving the lives services to the out of leaders when they meet with them that way. yeah, we can support the united nation and i to go back to an idea of success as in bought a data with the jeff. easier way for them to be the can pretend to all spell of science, but they never when, when we come to achieve our implement such i understand they really start to move the the says what i lack of mesa is included in the 4 categories. the committee is a committee that to them what they are doing and nothing basically because there was, i do and i assist in particular they don't want to offer on this issue. so we see a sorry for what happened in that last tuesday when we started the hospital

being bombard, i'm more than 500 uh victims resulted from that the bottom and i'm we so uh, the next day when president by our dentist visited is that i would say one, it says not visa, highly team, or would they? is they as a team, as if we are in a football game. and the tv means how much? how much on those days today? it all gets to the settlement outside the guys. uh, how come it is nobody companies that so it sure is it shows the blind uh, side of this with uh is that i why the whole there is silver, the whole ward with the city. and we have see the immunization here on there. and there was an in data board and then what's the name on the on woods, they fill

a senior because they are seeing the process. the, the i see the genocide that is being before and the area. and that is not acceptable to any wise man or woman. and or because israel denies all sorts of things as regards what's happening in gaza. but did it surprise even you, i mean, did, when you were advising this out of the government. did anything like this happened? the king of daughter of jordan would cancel the meeting with an american president of flies in the you know, the us president flew in the 2nd intifada, but the idea that a leader of egypt would not meet with the us president. the obviously the palestinian authority is one of the bus, the beleaguered lead to the didn't, but uh they did surprise is, is that the jordan one did nothing to do with biting, nor did egypt was enough to fly associated meeting kind of said, because what,

what do they need to meet with for if anything is clear storms that vision storm with the killing a sub with the uh, the fire is in the gaza and try to withdraw from the guys that it's as simple as that. but with the process here is right, that they don't want it. they want to continue with this water, the cold war. so why do we have, i mean, so i, as i said, ma'am, would that both live to uh, the west van. i the he had the uh, the meeting with the government. um then, uh uh, can you go john bill. uh cast the meeting according to the closest ation with the egyptian. uh president a cc. i'm and anybody else was going it was going to liked in the meeting. i don't

see any reason for that meeting. and i think a day the solution is very clear on that they won't the meeting, but then the united states and the security concert last year was a last tuesday. they have the day before last tuesday, they stop a block, the decision to a so i have c is 5. so what kind of this discussion consultation that should go on on, on this issue? yeah, in fantasy americans use the dead women and children from the christian hospital in gaza as an excuse as to why the meeting didn't to go to plan and that somehow the morning period long. some muslims meant the bite and couldn't meet with the account of lots. but of course um, i mean you're saying you wouldn't surprise the suez canal is in egypt as mean

hosting the buyer clearly wouldn't have done the same. i mean, does this have implications that much more profound? they've been a gyptian leader, would refuse to meet with the united states leader. know we own support to what a decision being taken by easier by uh, can you jump on jonathan? definitely. in such a situation, any wise man, any wise leader would never go to such a meeting to discuss the very obvious solution to the problem and they know what they need to do. okay? well, sorry, you're not saying it as i make implication then for this who is canal dray, but they donation media are claiming and have been claiming that side of the recognition of israel is still on the table normalization this, this phrase, which is the use of i mean, did you believe the reports that were also relate to that?

and b, s kept blinking, waging when he buzzed around this region, desperately trying to presume we seek support from this and the other is not going to see the support. he was coming to say that abs 20 via the normalization excellence. and there is, there was supposed to be congress immunizations coming through so that he meant to do the same. but so the position is very clear from day one that we have another initiative on the table for many, many years. and we need to revise that. and to the main thing, it is a very clear, but it is also the method nation decision that we need to have a 2 state solution. when uh for the, for the city is on the 1967 bought the with the easier was the escape

it then and also the damage also joined on hi, i'm much at a ship i live in, in the jewish state. if this is not happening, we will never accept any normalization. at least this is my understanding on the last tuesday, the 1000 out for ministers or so the abs. and he stated this position. and they said that be a, a very sad about the what the, the huge number of casualties and guys that i had, the only solution is to have to stay with the 0 to was and then it's got it. okay. all right, well the site is only that is the united states position, despite the fact may be to cease fi. as you know, of can i say that if that didn't surprise you, the fact that the or bleed is, are refusing to meet with president biden? nothing like this has ever happened. the foreign minister of a ron,

flying in for the extraordinary meeting of the is that big conference in a way us, me easy me from? i mean, what did you make is that, i mean, that, that never happened when you were advising this. how the government 1st of all, but i what sort of alarm do you think of that goal has been the nature of nation countries. and what do you make of why he flew in, in the, in the middle of the night when that show as guides, a stomach and to do something very serious. they are not happy with the website is happening in gaza. and if it continues that within the she is not on the, the out of countries, but the same company is malaysia, said that it on many other countries that based on our next steps and they cannot accept to continue. this is a big strategy. hey, when you see children, i love that is and killing and be can. and then could i any any?

what is a human? emotion is what is the meaning of the human? this is jennifer. i think what the uh is. let me confidence the organization which makes the on last wednesday, i think, and basically i have decisions that this shouldn't stop, i'm or otherwise it wouldn't be expedited into ideas. and then it's not an international war between is it i and that as of the slumber and the board, i don't know if it's the american aircraft carrier is causing the interference. but that seems to be a bit of freezing there for in the link from that jet it to you by. i have to say the thing is that when a russian speak is we're being shelled 14000 dead in don't pass rusher came to the rescue as it will all be the critics of pollutants. they came to late when this is

happening and gaza, as you said, these woods, whichever echoing all around the, is that make world as well as we are, will. that's about it isn't it's notion of, uh sure, a lot of support. no, no i, what i mean was russia went and acted some se, belatedly to save the people have done best. the arab world is not going in to save the people of god a day when is it says continue or is it ice continues that can also see on the coming ceiling and gods out. and ask the guys that people to go to migrate to egypt or to jonathan. the home is let me go include the god of war. when, when say, you know, and they would go into a fight, they, in order to at least stop the aggravation office that it is that your lives are nothing without the united states. when they saw that the united states is on their

side, they start to show that they are, they can do what they want. this is not a sense and cannot be accepted by the whole out of world. and this, let me call doctor mom and else of i'll stop you that more from the former senior advisor decide the regulars minister petroleum up to this break. the i look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings, except we're so shorter is that conflict with the 1st law should we live in justification. we should be very careful about the personal intelligence at the point, obviously is to create a trust rather than fit the various. i mean with the

artificial intelligence, we have somebody with the in the a robot must protect this phone. existence was on the the welcome back to going underground, necessarily with former senior advisors is how do you rate these minister petroleum dr. mohammed, us about dr. us about in about one. you are talking that about the fact that will

be some kind of response. because if there is any, got a military response to save the people of guys that from the, our will do the as not make world biden has, is aircraft carriers the gerald, the ford and the eyes and how heavy masses, multi 1000000000 dollar pieces of weaponry as the people of guys of stuff and die as well for the day i suppose oil is one weapon which design, if a may reduce production, which they have announced to continuations of reductions of production, it also helps the environment. do you expect uh oh, big plus to dramatically with use production before i answer this question, what's, what's happening with the military as far as is being different from the united states to your claim? yeah. it did nothing and does not change that as a. so i've done the sort of prior,

is that why are we kind of stop the american aggregation medicaid? they know that they cannot fight against this. let me go on and they know that this is the edison. they want to 5 to risk you with those. uh and gods. uh so it is nonsense. that took the day, escaped us with the a be a with the or war ships? um, uh, some uh, some elicit a forces. they have different funds. they have the chinese funds, they, i pressure on funds and they cannot size. it is really where i think that i will not stay silent is in the united states start to do anything in the ages of to coming. coming to your question. um, i know who we will not be hasty to review is federal reviews our our in front of action unless the, the,

the problem that i'm any safety unless the is that i is not listening to the voice of wisdom and then we will have nothing but to use our oriend for election in order that to a letter as a whole, or this is something serious that's being taken by the or in for the us. that was injured in a of course, bizarrely that will help the united states economy in terms of oil exports because the price of oil will rise. yeah. how wide spread would you say your opinions are as regards what's happening then in a, in guys of the slaughter? because, you know, over the years we've seen how the children and grandchildren of people and it's a young young countries in the gc. see, educate that children be a leads in west and universities. i know you were educated in the, in the united states, but i why believes this understood this little during closet as the way you're

talking about it? i you don't get the impression that there's a loss of faith and solidarity in the palestinian people in recent years. in jesus the countries you know, are they, the main problem is that this is not a uh, oriented using categories issue. it is understood, i mean issue, and when, as far as the, from the sending an issue is uh, entity but is issue a new how see the destination is not limited to this. let me call him, but his strength and the ok and tries in germany, even though those cancelled as well. i've said that we are democratic society and then now i've had a demonstration based try to stop these, this immunizations. this is ridiculous, that's on the level of sound that, that the worst is having on this is that this has been covered through the

canadian problem when we saw it without the out and gives a claim, if anything they want in order to list it and let it sit by, i'm lucky when it comes to a point assign as they is, and they had to do the migration of, i guess a, there are so, and they, and we out and that's what it's about our children who are listening and that was taking advantage of cation, they can go anywhere. and now, by the way, uh, the juice to see is going through the ace we already established. but the relationship with china with the relationship when i side with the relationship with india, i'm, this is perfect and then you'll international all the which of the west wouldn't be among the days that a my and that

a power is in daniel. i was a so if this has not being recognized by there was, it wouldn't be too late later on during the night because they wouldn't have no power to show now. and the security counseling isn't data and they deal with in front of they will on the different, on the i m. s, the war via assess it are they are dropped to say that. but then ads is not a democracy. that as they uh, reflect the hit on that. so they need to stop that. they need to know that the world has this one to many part of that they need to achieve santibanez between the different policies. in order to achieve this timberlands ation, i avoid any international 91. yes. as regards freedom of expression, obviously frances band, palestinian demonstrations. talk in britain of a binding,

the palestinian flag. and this on top of what's happening to julian, this ons. but i have to say, is your age and money to inside the arrangement prepared for the on slow. it's also called main stream corporate propaganda media renae donations as they attack saudi arabia and gcc countries. already headlines will start to appear about the human rights records of gcc countries as a weapon against your country, for not bowing down to washington. you prepared for that this, this weapon, if it is the so it is useless, we get used to it. and if is not working, we because we a half hour to do this, you know, you seem and we were, you know what we are doing. and we didn't pay any attention to assessing criticism . please. i asked, there was to criticize them send before they can to criticize other countries including my so yeah,

and that's what it i know they're trying to be awarded and this message has been delivered by our crown prince. how about this and not very clearly, especially when uh visited by them can through saturday of yeah, asking to increase our in production, asking to buy and then i saw from, uh oh, okay, plus congregation. and we said we turned in no, no way. so now and the balance power was an you cannot make, i mean, in the nation an automatic they cannot, we cannot accept the auditors or any criticism from any country. because we, you know, we are doing that. i think we have a lot of agencies that went to take the and individuals a well comp to many ages happening in the u. a soon do you think uh, given your role in uh, climate change,

the dynamics and geo politics in for the saudi arabian kingdom. do you think the job id blinking jake sullivan, newland care about the environment given what happened to the north stream pipeline given is you just said that they desperately wanted the increases in the oil production to lower the price of gas, whilst at the same time that's petroleum, but is it while of the same time wanting to massively increase l. n. g from fracture gas in texas to western europe. when this is another case of the sun, but is it in by then is giving permissions to a different orange companies and different gas companies to increase production. and as i said inside the us, the other countries and the other international companies are investing internationally to stop because of the environment. okay,

believe that and this situation started to uncover if a u. k, if you are from the u. k, they allowing a non c, a producer to continue exploding and the producing or 11 gas in the notes to see the other did not have the air loud at that. do you think it's all a lie when they chose to buy the environment? they don't care about this problem in this village that there was that meeting last week of the, uh, oil companies in london. and to get it up on the other environment then or the agency. is there a way to gather a uh, besides the inter continental with a lender on the shelby sub? oh it is. so this is as they can what the, what do you use?

uh, when i get it uh, you know, had they had a young young man on there. she left to have had a temporary, had a score in order that there's a link to assess their environment. and they had only concentrating on c o 2, y, and the convention a g u n s c. c, convention. token of our own community now is guys is in the or 6 this. and they are also said that was supposed to very fee should be equal among other countries, even though the higher the convention say in the that there is a common but differentiated us about so really the sort of a so apply this for this event and they forgot that they are the responsibility industrialized countries over know to the environment for a long time. and they not only did with various sources,

but also saying so they are saying that a, the convention and the whole agreement and to annoy agreement why and the a subsidizing core is just that eyes countries. they are within the heavy taxes or the or, and when they talk about kind of on the desk, basically they're so big guys are they simply designate that. so these are still them in the center. so i, i doing it, does the discover many litigations, many countries the same, the same that so in popular see some what you are doing, you are doing good on the, to the environment and asking if one of these countries to bed he's better than this is nonsense, i'm with that as an funny. yeah. asking so the other countries to pay financially to the front of the countries in order to reduce modern your words. so i just the

very briefly though, i ask you about the sound bug because what do you have and then mentioned notes here just very, very briefly, the danger of a nuclear threat from israel given as you say, the unity against israel level what's happening and gaza they avenue say, well, when they use it a, is it a, is an i to a new as a nuclear power? is it be available the next a condemned visit? i is for the, for a position and they're having a new, clear problem. and lima. nice. i'm yeah, making a lot of hectic on chat with the again is and it can city who is going to have near clear to even meet the san from new york that energy including the so i'm not defending here on but the i'm saying you that this is another the send,

the why, why do you are allowing is that i to on and you clear to power why leo prevent others from doing this? when they say, when is that i is right? what is the wisdom we see now nowadays, and gods that there is no wisdom act or they said they were, we would continue to bring both of them is that way because out from or it says is in and as a citizen. so this 7 said that had to so this is nonsense photo to say that okay, obviously as rail denies the nuclear weapons. expos, by motor car, you know dr. mom and out of somebody. oh no document outside the bag. do. thank you . that's it for the show. and the condolences from the whole team here i'm going underground, but those bree by the ongoing violence in the middle east, will be back with a brand new episode on saturday until then keep in touch by the social media, if it's not sensitive in your country and had to have channel going on,

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