that's investment, it's long term investments, and the more the pensions go up, the more they're going to make because that's the long term. uh opportunity. and do you think it will be a long term? well, yeah, well, it's not going to be a 3 month walk through god, that netanyahu of state, and that's and say, that's so the range lead detached from reality. it's not even funny. it doesn't matter. you have a mediation, doesn't matter here, work tillery doesn't matter. you have a naval artillery because once you walk into garza, you walk into a ruined urban environment that has an under city on top of this. uh, how mazda is going, how much is waiting for it so, so their goal is to get these relays in there. and this is, if you're looking at coal calculated uh they did an act that's enough to that is really, is on uh, on our emotional rage would rush you if you're russian, it's a fight. it's a street fight. it's a room, the room, fine. and the for the concept is you grab your enemy by the belt and you pull them tight, you're fighting right face to face with them. there's no way they're gonna use

artillery. there's no way they're going to use air strikes are going to be hitting their own troops. it's. and once you go underground, there is no technology. the technological advantage that will satellites. there's no guided missiles, it becomes a room, the room flight in underground tunnels. where you have no concept of where you're going and the enemy knows the ground because it's their ground. they created this got to create the skill set. basically the entire tunnel network is going to be a tool set. it's something that it's going to be a tough to get cleared out. you can't gas it. now you can try but the they have precautions for that. water traps that'll, uh, that'll cut something tunnels off chambers that can be closed off so that i mean it's prepared. i'm not saying all of it is that way, but again, i sort of later you're, you're gonna have to go down and clear it out. and how likely do you think it is that this is going to spill over the borders and turn into a regional conflicts? well, has the and the father both stated that their red line is,

does rarely go in and it doesn't. if this really is go in, there are not that many civilians left a life. a lot of civilians left there just my many, i left the lines in that part of gauze, but there are civilians there. if there's where there's indiscriminately or killing civilians. this is getting out in video. this is going to be a tipping point for jordan. it may be a tipping point for 30, is a 3rd come to egypt and say we're back and you go in or you're gonna be the odd man out when this is all settled. you just made to, uh so yeah, this could easily turn into a massive warrant. all fronts has, well, it goes in the united states as to aircraft carriers. they can hit that. that is where it is right now. we're getting into the syria. this could easily pass syria, and this can be simple us and we have bases in syria uh for the us troops in the there illegally occupying for a 3rd of syria and illegal. the true us troops illegally in iraq because a rag did request the us to leave under trump. and they were told the go jump off

a roof will stay as long as we want to stay very legally. and i rag those troops are condemned to death. because if i ran is pulled into this for the person golf will be closed off. and those 2 found their own surrounded in an enemy country, had attacked by everyone. they don't have a, they don't have an out. so they're basically gonna have to be written off. there's, they're not gonna be able to be supported. so that's gotta be on the mind of who's ever planning and who's ever planning, lloyd austin, that's going to be on his mind. doesn't that would be a huge disaster for by several 1000 american soldiers left through the hang. is we just kill anybody's presidency. it's not a libyan uh, not a us console in libya that that's left to hang. uh, like hillary clinton did. this is bases with thousands of troops or doing their

customers last span. serrano by all the indians. so this is, this will be for a news, this will be getting out under the age of satellites video, and this would be just the, the end of the binding presidency. thank you so much for anything so much. the always appreciate your time and sundays love couldn't have make thank you. well, thousands of people took to the streets in south africa too much towards the is really embassy. and for tory, a pound back on a line of police, they demanded the facility, be shut down, suggesting is really actions and dogs. there are tons of mounts what they call genocide tease. malibu, yeah. con guy has more details on that quote for justice the while these really misleading. so that's a couple to raise base and get another demonstration from me so that we can political party, this time economy. freedom tied to the, the to yes, my name is needing a picture just outside the embassy with menu off of them saying that it is

absolutely no reason for the embassy to exist in the country. and menu questioning, the economy ties between south africa and he's ross, especially when thousands of civilians are dying from both sides in each row. and kind of start off by far the other side of the split for 204 lines. you are working on you say you want me to go home on what you are related to that friday. i'm the members on the call to be able to see how the, because outside these really premises i'm calling for the expulsion of these really invested in new one tries and brutalizing the others and actually driving it general sites like it is in the palestine that i have to clean up,

his son can not be allowed to have and do some parts of any kind from any country. they come to me t awfully to come in the you're url both towards the wrong sector, not party but peter changes action. but for years i don't think i haven't been doing the genocide and stuff and people do this. we're going to stand as a deputy until it goes to auction board is the open the most goes to reach. so for written just a texas leading thousands of put to see me is that he's really the display is to add killed the officials add 2 days march say that's the so that's a government has indeed failed the time is. so i'm, and the point is damien, society and people, and if it will not allow that to persist in philosophy, i'm really we'll pull the inventory of more on this. we have joins live, find

a cozy is where the value montela, the grandson of nelson mandela. many thanks for joining us on the program. it's a great pleasure to have you on the show. now, as you know, we've see these a large protests in pretoria. nivia is really embassy and a show of solidarity with palestine. how wide spread is that sentiment among the public and south africa for the many assaults offered, tends to understand what it is to leave and all to patient. and for many, e as the re in south africa lived. and they're put on, you know, lives them for 350 years and predict the 60 s and i dial up updates regime. so we can probably identify and relates to what the parties begins with nothing. and this is wise. you have seen the salt offer trends on right across the landscape of our country in all cities. the big protests from cape tom to deb been drawing his

back in pretoria. and we have seen the order numbers coming out and stuff for to the point has been struggling a gauze that has frequently being referred to as an open at prison, suffering from moulton day, a pause. so i know, given honestly what you're saying, south african history. well, unless this can, those in palestine, tate, to rise out of the current situation as well. the, as i've said the, we had to enroll the a sense of is the of colonialism as well as the per ton upon a day. and she means a cup, and pro dot the menu was not waged, a offer resistance, particularly when it came to land disposition. what we have seen over the years, the positive side has been that you are always, you know,

times being in glands like we were just under colonialism in south africa. but we have also seen the 1st one removal of houses before those at the same doc to be experienced in south africa. but i think it was his eh, on. so i b s by menu off on the in south africa is not the policy means only be under the west. formal hallmark dates listed on the re eval weakness, the south africans you would recall dr. when we were pushed to the mix. it was the late president, monday, the doctor called to start off with comes to pick up and formed a controller caesar, which was the speed of the nation when it became the military rim of the african. this now congress, he pressed and now the left of the country and 62. when 40 years, military training and the top guy and did not jo. yep. and us the,

it made it clear that we can hold on us the big watched human written estimate apart dates resume eh, cutting out the trusted, these are things our people. and therefore we have the rights to resist and the rights to defend ourselves. and this is why we can relate to ben as the what is happening and the husband finding the occupied part of his time and that we. 4 saying for the old modes to your thoughts, the part this thing is do have that light. who is this occupation and they do have it likes to defend themselves? indeed, in terms of resolving the conflicts, however, there are major blocks on both sides. palestine wants to be recognized as a software in state and is what else seems to be on the part of just leveling does a well stepping piece talks in cairo. how can south africa play a role in facilitating peace talks, where we have, where all the new models,

locations that they've been in our own report liberation had to have the opportunity to put in gauge in this say that got your call. dr. printed in monday and it was all fodder, numerous locations to be released. but it made clear that you wanted to be able to use on conditionally. and therefore in doing so, he was able to a level the ground it, for instance, that the a we have use been rejected. so the majority of all people to be split into small pockets of lens invited to spend formation. and this is something that vs off because we're totally reject on the household. part of the thing is that they should be reduced to relieve and bind to sense. and this is why we don't support the 2 states. so those things, there is only one state sort of thing,

and that being part is by the part of students should be allowed to determine their own self determination and be able to it could be on the front end. i'm not, scott, but also you will realize that when my do my clothes or cox and pay their way for negotiations, bear with the issues that the pump did receive a head to meet for negotiations to be held in south africa. and that was a call on all the political prisoners to be released and all pointed to god parties to be on the bench. so they can be able to participate to network stations, as well as the all talk public and living eggs. i shouldn't be given that i don't pretend to come back to south africa and this is the premises that negotiations every m o compiled published i wouldn't be held. we need to exec pressure

on the part the state of use around for leave or political prisoners, particularly women and children that have been living in there's a variety to the menu political prison does not have been subbing in more than 50 years in those states without try, but we also need to call a school that might be 10 of all parties. the names in the task board, right? you work almost all of us. it's medium for the senior living in the task board. and we thought those being meant, they can never be a good paid way to negotiations and sitting around the table and be able to resolve the issues of your pipe purchased by another major issue with how the international community is polarized and picking sides of what both sides call a war. what are your thoughts on what it means for states to support palestine and

the inherent interests of those to support as well as well. it does always say been the case, the doctor, the wife's premise, will always say prevail as they own the media. and they were utilized propaganda was you that this was not the, the ones to be the influence in the site. but the we, a board is known about to do this, try the nation. we speak to the facts. and if you are move, always like the, as the media and the google look at the, the how does the conflict as have been imaged on the 7th of october. the realize that probably students have been living and ok, pacing for 75. yes. a trusted tease of the meters out on

a daily basis. so the not, but i would say it was a cut test, took me to eliminate the $700000.00 parties bins. and the main silent this month has been going on on a daily basis. and it has pushed the parties names to add, they are a limit and their full a to be you will always find eh, those dot to understand that he's already called content. that's these are the, the most, all the countries we live in and saw positive kids left in 1994 and they left it to reside in what they called the holy land. all right. and they now taken up the land of students,

and that is totally not acceptable. and therefore, we need to move away from the purport under the says there is i'm up on stage of isabel is waiting and come to understanding not been in business cards with what, with the issues that lead to where we are to be as, as we know, as well, has increased, it strikes on guns over the weekend. what do you think will happen to the civilians? if the ground operation begins students a it has been the unfortunate the end. the said, the to doctor we, they said to hold on to oh, screens. watching a babies and the women a be bombed on a daily basis. we wake up every morning over one. but the funny thing is

it killed a, a, the just disney case. and dr. 14 a 100 isn't riley's, have been made up by the opposed students that resistance. and i still a poor did it too many people not let us be able to understand that it did say a crisis, but as not just thought to to be. it has been going on for decades and policy means have read off the menus, offer a be a citizen, drink at the hands the, all the desire, just say of the state, the is the right. and therefore, eh, we even look at the, the printer to hosted to the read tempted by the public opinion existence and, and therefore i ask the question, how many children are in is likely jails to be?

how many women continue to be in the is riley jails. today, as well as put a default printer, this is a design is they are part of the state of just right. also, negotiations of leasing some of those prisoners that have been in the case over 50 years without try not as much they've been being consumed in the policy and daily on a daily basis. us to release all stages uh people over their lives. at 1 point, one middle and the citizens of laza have been told the victory wait and leave the homes and go solve. this is a dignified, not with this. the kinds are going to mail it to you, not to filter the despicable and yet the load is sitting silent, keep bugged it, emitting donation the dollar to move the re beginning to see the crowd. right?

because the low marching out into the street in protest. and this is exactly what we were just in south africa during our structure for the reason that it was the entire nation though. so point to not be a head that lead to us tripoli del punted resume in south africa. and as much as we were able to dispute the update to zimmerman. so dr. golf palestinians, i can assure you, will be able to defeat desire just about the state of these are the wells that will forever be in all of your grandfather's philosophy of reconciliation and forgiveness. how come that philosophy be applied to the as rating palestinian conflicts? i think that before we have been the focus on that day, we must put the money, the buzz, try the nation into context. my dear boy,

was it printed on white top monday by lead hughes. people don't know a lot, but russian it'd be, it'd became a mental piece. it was only when the pump did you see me was dead at the better. we don't wanna bother that, but do you bar code? well, the 3 eh, priorities to be met before we even had that was the agents and the full in order to have this thing is really in the occupied part is time for the confirmation to be that they are through it. it was that there is this, a big state of you're right must meet, they have to lose or pointed to called prisoners. they have to ensure that the order women and children in occupied by uh these have to enable on political informations to be able to participate in the

negotiations. and they need to give her life of return for students living in the dies for you will not be able to even consider eh, a t obviously process points division process. if you have not been laid, the foundation for docs to be it same in my. 1 view that's on these ready side seems blinded by anger, by a thoughts of revenge if the, the awful things that happened on his radius toilet up to her. but the 7th, how do you see things playing out? so over the next few days and weeks, that was the is our mistake, this is what i lose the really key on the agenda. it is to continue with the war crimes not to be the been focused rating as since the day of the

not well and the intensifying that by a carry. now they do, you know, side informed view of the world and the best, the god, they want to make the dots, the a just cause of defending themselves by a bombing eh, babies and do women. and particularly in the hospitals, in churches and in moss, where people have left to our homes to seek refuge in holy places. and these are being targeted by the just up update state of ease of i'll go and go and revenge. but it is always a beam, eh, what to the wife's clements in general is the agenda has been it has a been

a doctor. they want to so or to the whole world. dr. probably stevens, us probably human. the i'm the most. i'm reporting sort of the cup, what relates to dogs because the say off the head, us or press to us as any moms getting salt off the call. and it is no different than what we all see. it is up to date and then the entire occupied part is by or you mentioned that that you believe as well as commission will crimes in gaza. do you think that as well might be held accountable for such crimes? well, we have the called the as much as the a i c, c has the failed the, the entire introduce the community by a be pretty does the to watch the calling for the rest of the can need is we have

already say the said the doctor they have failed to call for the rest the all but bush and blair, for the old and the war crimes and genocide, the cut it all in your lock during the must, i may do all for a was for weapons of mass destruction not actually never existed today we continue to make the calls, dr. nothing now and use will copy that must be rested. the i is the see must issue out a water in the sport enough to know what the war crimes and the genocide that they are carrying out. if you could briefly just gave one message of support to the palestinian people, what would it be? we all know how to insource up one of the palestinian resistance. it is your right to resist occupation and to

defend the lens of your flo father. just as we did here in south africa and then tie out international solidarity movement in the global community is a really behind you. we will be your voices and we will ensure that there is no story that is not part in view of the time they started meet. yeah. so that's it. sides. it's women, not these books. i didn't measure by design. this update state of is right. will be known to the global community. we will not be silenced and record on the entire international community for rise and be the voice of the public students. because he's really funny, mandela, many, thanks for your time today. i really appreciate that we've been speaking to the

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