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compensate for this test will be said year she occupied as by thomas off from years and create this search empty for the residents are getting better if there is that the source of the threat that this from us is completely eliminated. israel, she well my wonder if i could an interrupt here and go to franklin. i go to ryan him, franklin and i agree that that is the stated goal. it but to get rid of hamas, you're going to have to get rid of the population at the same time. my point is, and in my introduction i was suggesting is that the west is culpable. and in alignment with israel and committing where there's nothing less than genocide go head, right? yeah, yeah, yeah. it is an objective reality. what you just said, man, this is what so frustrating about this entire conversation. and as you a so delicately put in the beginning, it's very clearly revealing that they do not care about all of the things that they, you know, the so called roles based international order clearly only applies when they want
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it to. right. i mean, these are like the things i always maintain, that i want, i want my audience and everybody listening to understand and these are objective realities. the united nations as always, maintains this isn't occupied territory. and because that's a reality, that means that under the geneva conventions any occupied territory has the legal right to arms struggle armed rebellion. that means that come off, his actions as the resistance of one of the factions, of resistance of gaza, of the policy in people was a legally protected acts. now, once the crimes that might have been a work committed after that were committed. now those are crimes sort of like when us military commit rape or murder or anything else that happens overseas. those are crimes, it doesn't then immediately invalidate the action if it weren't legal. of a military action, but to yet to answer your 1st question. this is so frustrating because what was stated by the united nations is so blatantly obvious and even more so how frustrating it is that it took him 16 days of indiscriminate, 24 hour bombing of civilian locations before he said that and then they, they,
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they go so far as to attack him on the un revoke they are you there, they're a devil at access or a and then also and literally condemn them and ask for them to resign. the force needing an objective reality. you know, just shows you that the they're trying to whitewash the actions against civilians and gaza. now done that, pointed to it and let me continue for one more. second, i think it's important that we understand that there is no way to remove the lead. if you're bombing places where there are civilians present, whether or not they claim they're using as human shields, and we can get into that which the u. n. is investigated and found that i'm off hasn't been doing that. but that means that you are still committing a crime that's collected punishment. political is now writing or goals about how it's now somehow legal because they're using them as human shields. we know that if anybody else was doing this, they would be treating them like, like the criminal that they should be treated as. so it's just, it's, it's a grotesque and what they're doing is white washing the crimes. they would have a hold of anybody else accountable for what you know, george is go to budapest. dear george, you know,
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it's really quite remarkable. is that, um, uh, they've been logged and said because these governments in the west were elected, that means the people that elected these governments that are committing crimes against arabs and muslims. they are legitimate targets. so that western media in the western political world is adopted, been loggins' doctrine because, well, the, the american people apparently voted for joe biden. and joe biden is doing this. do you see how perverse this logic is? because then, but then then, you know, you can turn around say, well, benjamin netanyahu was elected. so all the people that voted for him or are taught legitimate targets as well. i mean, it's all very perverse, but it's being adopted george. it has indeed the irony to what you just said, which is the hamas as boys described in the western media as not legitimate representative of the palestinian people, not even the legitimate representative of the people of gaza. indeed,
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gaza is often described as a military dictatorship, which means that it's even less of your justification to punish the people of gaza for the alleged depredations of thomas. i mean, at least when the guys have been live, is that where you have these democratic elections? you, you, you, you know, you say they're all democratic and therefore the people of the chosen but ministrations that all one after another have assumed the same policy in the middle east, for example, all unconditional support for his role. so therefore, this has no descent, as far as the political elite is concerned in the united states on the issue of israel, apple. it says the reason that the american people are guilty of all the crimes of israel because it's a ridiculous piece of logic. but it can indeed be applied to israel and so therefore the, they get all the argue this, all of this, all the, you know,
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crimes you know, the game targeting civilians. well, yes, it's true. the time us uh, targeted a civilians in the on october the 7th. but they also targeted military, like i said, they attacked the ministry basis, which is kind of similar to what most of the countries do with united states. uh, only the bombs, it bumps military diet. it also attacks civilians argues, so they have over the literally attempt to suggest the homeless, exclusively attacks. so that ends august is completely wrong, but it's don't deliberately just suggest the somehow what happened on october. the 7 in is like all the cause, it was just simply an attempt to eradicate the jewish people. it's a completely falls narrative, but you know what is perpetrated in order to adjust the box? anything that israel wants to do well, and of course, george, nothing happened before october 7th we everything was calm. everyone was happy.
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everyone was thing and come by a let's go back to the professor in, in town. and your 1st answer to me, you, you, you talked about the, the, the end of israel, the, the, the, the, the existential threat that is real faces right now. that is very real and you know, as we wait i, i tend to think that there will not be a mass of ground invasion because they'll just lose and they don't want to lose. and there are, but there are people in israel, they want a preemptive strike on has, has the law up north, i think that is very bad calculation as well. your thoughts and to that and go ahead a look as you have seen by the certain model and measuring the prince president has a old warrant is read about the ground invasion, neither by the nor matron as our customer. and about the kind of standing out it's crystal clear for them that the grounded visually create. it caught my eye for is lighting guess why? you know, when this 362, i mean square kilometres area was there. it was under the occupational is right in
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the hands of the machine including shuttle. i used to work 10, describe these read difficulties and guys. finally there is you quite a bit through. it's me, it's you forces from guys in 2005. this happens in the time to pursuing as we're fighting the store and not be the sides capable of reaching columbia or over muslim world not tolerate ground innovation was a mistake, could activate other on t is right. forces and duration is right. is order to have barbecue. yeah, it is already at ward. we live in a, in case of agree off golf invasion is right to prepare itself to flight and mazda front of war. that each may not be capable of fighting. it cannot because his legs strategic did, you know, so did you get is a term administered it to sort that diversity dispatches between the problem lies and the heart to that? is there a lex it i'm wondering if there is a sense of job to buy 2 or 3. i have to spend enough time in the recent years to
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learn swimming this year or not. it's very interesting, ryan, because this is the, the strategic dilemma that israel space isn't it? and it's a dilemma that it created for itself in the what we've been, wow, those investigative study, this is, it's a 56 years in the making. know and should be surprised by this. go ahead before we go to the break. yeah, well i mean, really we're talking about 75 years plus if you want to get really specific about it in regard to occupation, but, you know, the, the, the legal state of israel is a legal reality. right? so we have to always go from there. we have to understand that this is an illegal occupation, but you know, there's, there's a lot of nuance to it. obviously it's been going on a really long time and there's people innocent people on all sides. and i think that's what this conversation needs to. what we're trying to make clear, or is it in a support? the whole point of all the programs i'm making about this is there's contacts folks . there's contacts, and when we have contacts, then we can have a discussion, gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue. our discussion on palestine state will talk to you
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where it's in yet. i love you. done, boss. my name's so furious maximus crane. i'm an american citizen and then yes. why? i'm here to show you back to do the was the truth. and as you can see, my government supplied weapons of struck for civilian area. this isn't a military target, this is a grocery store, does go to, my gosh, i can't imagine how these people look like this for 9 years. and there are children here. i'm telling you that have died because of my government, the united states governments funding of this list. more of the baby here in a civilian populated area which civilians. right. the impact of the seas
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are so, so this makes me angry. i'm sorry. oh, i mean, i know, but still you know, you feel responsible as in america, the, as all forces were hiding in civilian structures, the machine. and so we saw outside the courtyard that the nazi tattoos on his body. our journey is that it's good versus evil. i pray that and i pray that victory comes soon and i, i believe it will the welcome back across the dock were all things are considered. i'm peter will build to remind you we're discussing palestine the
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okay, let's go back to george in, in budapest, george, we've seen the ongoing that the security council going nowhere. and it's basically the united states and its allies that just insist on repeating over and over again . in every way possible fashion, you know, it has the right to self defense. well, yeah, it does. okay. i don't know what the argument is here, but actually it's, it's code. it's a coded narrative to say because it has the right to self defense. it can do anything, it wants to in response, and that is that they the, the catch right there. and that's why other countries on the security council won't go along with it because then they would be complacent in ethnic cleansing and genocide. george this exactly right. it's a bizarre kind of a talking point is, or it has a right to self defense, which means you have israel can do whatever you'd like, and then the car all the way over that is the cost of the attack on this. nebula is
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kind of the arab uranium, well, well, they don't recognize it as rails white to exist because that's it also totally untrue because opposed to they do. but the issue a big deal, except that anyone can, i mean nobody has a right to exist. but the issue is of course, what the, what are the final borders of the state of israel. and that, that is pretty much in the dispute. but the been going back to you appointed by the united nations. it is easy, that's all in the united states, and it's out i'd say as well, this isn't the tag on the jews, the jewish people. and they have full says, we don't want to repeat the holocaust, you know, we have to give essentially the jewish people, a blank check or whatever they want. i mean, this was very much. yeah, it's reiterated by the battle of the gentleman, foreign ministers as a we in germany, have a special bond with israel because about a terrible pause and that, but we always have to support israel and it goes it's, it's completely nonsensical because anything that you do has still to be in
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conformity with international humanitarian law. just saying that, well, you have a right to defend yourself. yes, you have the right to defend yourself, but you don't have a right to use a risk. disproportionate pause and you don't have a ride to violate all these looms if it's a national human monetary law, such as cutting off a civilian population from food awards of electricity. uh few hold. uh that is obviously a violation to say that this somehow is about our right to defend ourselves, but it's obviously a line. well, no, it, it, it, this is it called the suspend morality is what it's all about and it's, and it's an exception only this time, well, no international humanitarian law should apply all the time to everyone. it's really quite remarkable. i want to say this to all my guess is real, is a child is the child abuse, knighted nations, united nations made israel. okay. and,
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and of all countries to defy its rules and resolutions. you know, that's never pointed out here. let's go back to the professor, intent on i'm sure professor, do you notice that it would that there's a, a, an echo of the, a post $911.00, a more on global pair and of course, era and is always in the center of it all. okay, so let me get this straight. uh, people uh, under occupation in gaza, break out of an open air prison attack is ready at least including civilians. and so the united states has to attack around, can you explain that logic to me because i'm not sure i get it. united states could take, you know, on it, have it had, it would have done it in there isn't 4 to 5 years. it is not able to do so and look at this. no, that's it. guess you're on. you're going to guess is right. again, guess by the sending us the best as no longer be able to to interfere to save yours
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. right? for the same reason that it couldn't topple it legitimacy and call them and talk about us for the same reason that it couldn't be sent nature to josh and products for the sanders. and that it couldn't embed you're on despite frequently claiming that the options are on the table. you see all options are not on the table. the both today is very different from what it was a decade or 2 ago. and there is no reason for your eyes interferes, but us in the us are strong enough. there is, there is just us forces injuries and are at their strongest position in history and is it, and it's based as supporters are at their biggest position. so i think how most, so it is the best time to take back the occupied territories. i think a it will be no war, no massacre. to march the end of user and the end of the user, we'd be marked by then by an event creation division. but we saw enough
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understanding about the use me to forces be repeated just for the she deserves and residents of the territories. my suggestion is that if the best of the doors are concerned about the lives of designers, issues provide free slide services for the so the occupied forces to anywhere in the world. they have come from. there's no need for and a lot of war the united states is not able to raise your bar as well. they, they may try, ryan and the, the, the worry is that they might fail. i don't think has pause, afraid of 2 aircraft carriers. and these manage, right, i don't think they're afraid of it. i mean they, they've had their fighters in syria, they're prepared, they've been waiting, i would say, from their perspective for a situation like this through a rise for a very long time. and these riley's fear has full law, they definitely fear. but you know, overall this kind of an overarching thing. here. it is really the pathetic state of
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the west where had gemini from humanity. i mean, they have the language of humanitarian rights and they, they tried, they and they use, i guess i use it as a cultural very often around the world. but it's really hollow in its meaning because if there is an exception, then the rule doesn't work. go ahead, right? yeah, and this is a classic tactic and i mean, you can look back through all of that and pretty much all of us foreign policy. the joe k off and make on my show is that they're batting 0, right? they claim we're fighting for freedom, we're trying to get freedom to these countries and they invade, topple and destroy, and leave it in a ruin and, and go to the next one and the next one. and so either they are the worst possible country in the world, actually starting freedom, or maybe they're not actually trying to spread freedom. you know, it's like why we let that continue is beyond me, libya left as you know, it's open slay market. now, just warring factions and we just never talk about that, it was, you know, over and over and over. so they don't have the moral high ground here. i think what
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you're pointing out is important that they use these terms in order to control the perception and literally the actions of other people and including their allies. i mean, look at what happened with north spring pipeline and germany. i mean, it's very clear, these people are the very ones that they act like their adversaries are in regard to the disregard for international law. you know, so nobody's your whole there are standing as legitimate, right? we need to, i mean, but i forget the person's name and i wish i remember it right now, but a palestinian representative on, i believe it was, bbc made a very, very important point. the only thing that the palestinian resistance and the policy and representatives are actually asking for at this moment is the equal application of international law. think about how important obvious that isn't. yeah, for what, what, what a radical idea isn't it just, i'm just saying the obvious is extraordinary, you know, towards, you know, it was, we were brought up to, to hate around the media. i, you know, we had all the think tanks and all of that. and you know, here, here we go, this is kind of how it's frame the crazy mall of the crazy people and cut out over
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and over again. demonizing them denigrating them. but this is exactly how western leaders act right now. okay. they're the ones that are fanatics, they're, they lost their mind. george, that's exactly right. that is very amusing, that the so there is this logic be oxidized by uh, width and leaders, especially in the united states that because iran, the support the highlights. and because he runs the boards the, his bow a and the other. a proxy poll says iran must be bones. and this has been said by lindsay graham has been said by uh, joseph lieberman former vice presidential candidates. i didn't even know lieberman was still alive and to leave the notes. i didn't know that. okay. i thought i thought that we moved on to greener pastures. okay. yeah, so lead me to but, but that's the iran is there for a legitimate target. because the,
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when it comes to ukraine, they don't say that they, the nato powers are legitimate targets for essentially bank rolling and bolting and ami um the ukraine, right? what would when auto body to the conflict? so again, it's an ellipse, the inconsistency. but the problem is if we stop escalating as well, and this is this, the, the issue that one wants to talk about is that is what your husband usually weapons in this room. unlike anyone else, is ready to use the. i mean, we know how ruthless is realistic so if so if it is indeed of is rose, destiny to be involved in a multi front wall, that it is in danger of losing as well. we would use use a weapon. so, and i don't think is any doubt about that. so it's a, it's a very dangerous situation. um and uh, and then it was one that so you know, we've come to an weird because no one has attempted to restrain is what i mean vision of what to use new day. what was, what would model of van? and the rest of them say is right, as a right,
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the defendants already has the right. so let's go back to the professor right well, rapidly running out of time. i really do, i'm glad george brought up the issue of nuclear weapons because i also think it considering how these railings want to destroy a mouse, which means we'll have to destroy all the palestinians that they could resort to weapons of mass destruction. maybe not a new killer weapon, but other ones. i mean white phosphorus they, they use it on a regular basis now apparently, and no, no one calls them out on your thoughts. we as we end the program, go ahead. oh no, it is. and will not be able to use and if you ever cause, because as you see it, the how most forces have it not be a killed by need service need your services are going to destroy the order of people is right. is fighting. come us, the option is not due for a nikiya, meek, nervous on the option is going and to invade an inmate from the ground
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and is where it was not. we did not succeed. as i said, it is not capable of invading guys. the problems from the grounds because homeless has prepared and planned for it, but i look for a lot bar and, and if it's right into a schedule it for, i'm live and i'm from syria and from some other forces. it's me to be attacked. usually the best plan to destroy is right so well gentlemen, gentlemen, we are rapidly running out of time. obviously we're going to keep a very close eye on the events here. but one of them, the, the, the primary purpose of this program is the show the, the rank hypocrisy of the west when it uses the words of human rights and international human rights law. it's just suffocating lee, a stupid ok as all the time we have general law and i think my guess in budapest for franklin and into around and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here. ok. so you next time. remember, pass up rules the,
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the to atrocities and other times the united states of america is different. wherever people longed to be free, they will find a friend in the united states. the need to be of the auto body of the volts in a very, very easy to sort of city and teach all you look at me for the day and service of the secretaries to color revolutions is one among several meanings to reach the goal of conquering foreign lands and bringing them onto the help of us. the western
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the chest really to get ahold of that, could you look into the beatles going to be approximately 25000 people went through the occupied of go finish camps according to official figures. these move stuff, dudley level. if the shifted utility and i give you an idea, i'm not sure it's just the data stuff. so the youngest, i mean you would find in disease forced labor to which you have by the word is formulas. what was the last it also need you to do? what's the tape it to you that the it's the 2 variables you're off with. those who put in these 9 portion and things up to give you what you want to do because he doesn't do those thousands of testimonies of crimes and the impunity of criminals. nothing more. when you look on here, you know, one or 2. so do you to speak of the did i tell you? yeah, for the good i see it released upon me. they decided to discuss with you, please don't. so you can just you, because you put it as being yet that was put in the word along the as
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