with stability and business deal. so let me, let me on that. you have very quick propaganda. you know, a price here in new york. i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. some more questions ask the better the answer is, will be the we told you last season that many, many people across the united states and a half dozen other countries have been diagnosed with a strange melody called savannah central. the symptoms 1st again manifesting in 2016 when diplomats at the us embassy and havana cuba begin reporting things ranging from physical pain to bringing in the years to cognitive difficulties. many had diagnosable from madison brain injuries. the u. s. government initially dismissed the symptoms as the product of crickets. yes, crickets, but something more sinister was likely behind it. multiple investigations from

nearly every part of the american intelligence community lead only to inconclusive results. and yet more and more people are complaining about these same symptoms. i'm john curiosity. welcome to the whistle blowers the . 2 2 2 2 2 preventive syndrome is a perplexing condition when diplomats up the u. s. embassy and havana begin reporting, things like physical pain, migraines, nausea, ringing in the ears and even traumatic brain injuries. the state department and the department of defense called the events anomalous health incidence. c, i a director william burns called them a tax after several senior c i. a officers said that they had been targeted. but after a preliminary look, the government decided that the situation was one of mass hysteria called caused by

nothing but the noise made by crickets when they were seeking to meet. that was ridiculous, of course, and it was wrong in the following months. in years, dozens of american diplomats and government officials in places as far flung as noise, boca time, washington, australia, moscow, and elsewhere reported symptoms associated with havana syndrome. even the sea ice former station chief and moscow resigned from the agency and let a lawsuit saying that he too was the victim of havana syndrome. and that the c i a was not taking him or other victim seriously. doctor is now confirmed that this syndrome is real. there's verifiable, damage done victims and many of them can show evidence of these traumatic brain injuries. but there is no treatment, no rhyme or reason why some individuals seem to be targeted while others are not. and no admission from any element of the us government or from any other government for that matter that this is real and something needs to be done about it. as time

has passed, since we learned about the 1st case is more and more people have raised the question of whether havana syndrome might be the result of something called a directed energy weapon. it sounds far fetched to many could the american government, could any government actually be testing new weapons on unwitting civilians? the williams bill benny was the 4th racking officer and the national security agency, or n s a at the time of the september 11th attacks. as the agencies technical director, he was one of the most highly cleared officers in the entire organization. and he later became one of the most important national security whistle blowers in american history. and his wife dr. catherine horton is a former high energy physicist and research fellow at the university of oxford, england and his investigating directed energy weapons. bill benny has accomplished a lot in his life. he likely didn't expect to count himself among the americans who

have experienced the effects of havana syndrome. well, talk to him about the possibility that this is in fact a weapon. bill. catherine, welcome for so happy to have you. going to be with me here to bill katherine. let's begin with the basics of havana sand drum. this seemed to come as a surprise to just about everybody. and indeed, it wasn't even discovered until 2016, based on what you know, what are the signs of havana syndrome? and why haven't we heard about it or it's symptoms before 2016? well, my wife is more adapted answering that, but what i know about those types of single into that was these, that some of this very similar kind of thing occurred in the moscow embassy in the early 1970. and it was due to microwave radiation. and i think that that's probably says something to do with this somehow that we do. yeah. i, i would say that one of the things i would like to point out is that when i read this, the official symptoms like know of the ringing in the is the 1st thing i noticed,

especially about the ringing and is that one has to be very careful because they have different weapons technologies at play here. so in principle one can cause there's something called the friday effect. you can crank up the power on the microwave, a minutes at the person's head and it's assessment intensity, dis, passenger can hear the microwave. so that is uh basically parenting and use the auditory system. and then one can hear a ringing. however, a m o, all of the targeted individuals of which they are styles and it says united states alone. there's also another way to cost this and that's what they've also being done as embassy stuff, which is using a previous sam plans of mine for chip. and then torturing people with bringing in years by basically pumping white lies to the micro chip. now when people were discussing have on a syndrome, they wanted to focus on directed energy weapons on microwave energy and so on. and that's true, that's us, us the ones that stuff. but then also one has to keep in mind that the embassy

stuff in particular would be c. i a agents who were to be known f b i. agents wasn't being implanted without their knowledge and common sense is micro chips almost, you know, no, i've for 4 months. so that is also another way of switching people. and uh, and also my projects are in my experience being used to guide the weapons through the walls. so if you're aiming a microwave on directed energy weapons at somebody through maybe one wall, maybe the several walls which is entirely possible. you need some sort of mock a to know that you actually hit the pass and there are some, you know, guiding technology. but if you really want to target somebody's head, especially when they're sitting at the desk, moving back and forth, it helps having more because of, you know, technology already on the past. and my prove that the non conceptually implanted micro chips that then gives you a coordinate system. and i say that because in the analysis we've done, i've worked with the belgian university where we have a scans,

victims who complains about directed energy weapon attacks. we found wife with chance and all of them one can actually measure the radio frequency and mission for these micro chance. now, for those who are already struggle with somebody else in room that's very far out to then take another technology. but usually this comes as a package, pull that one conversational, implanting goes along with directed energy weapon attacks. and pretty much a 100 percent of the cases. i mentioned in a previous episode of the show that not a single day goes by, that i don't receive an e mail from somebody who believes that he or she is suffering from some sort of government experimentation. in many cases these people quite unfortunately are mentally ill. but in many cases they are legitimately suffering from something and they have the m, r i's and the cat scans to prove it. is it possible to differentiate between people who need to be medicated? and people who are suffering as a result of something electronic. yeah, that is a,

that is actually very, very easy to do. and what i would say so that again, there are 2 things. one is the directed energy less than a tax, which usually happens and then the attack this stuff. so unless one can catch them in the act and report live evidence. this is something that i've done because i came under attack. i managed to film how i was being shot that was directed energy weapons and i use metal file to show that one could hear the impact and actually see the file move as well. and it completely sealed the rooms. so that's possible. that's all, it is much easier to prove that victims, in fact victims enough meant t l by finding the micro chips. and as i said, we found micro chips and all of them. so the way to do that is to use a standard 5 detector. i've got one here that i always use because that's a very high frequency range from one megahertz to 6 gigahertz. and then one can it

she's scanned the body. typically the strongest micro chip is in the mac, and now i experience. and then once in a hold of microsoft, start this, i'm working, hold the, the, uh, the back to tech stuff to the next, and move it around, change the angle until it shows a signal and the smoking gun evidence. and that also distinguishes the micro chip from any background radiation assess the whole that you can reproduce this any time of the day. you will always find the micro chip, but more importantly, that's a radiation. some of these micro chips is polarized, which means that at the 2nd angle you will see the maximum. so little ellie, these show up as you think up the signal, and you will see the maximum signal at the assessment angle. it will go down as you change the angle. so that is a telltale sign for polarized radiation. background radiation typically is unfold arrives, so it doesn't matter how you 60 and turn that into a room upstairs. why fi, mobile phone of communication? you always pick up a signal, but these micro chips of very,

very specific. so that is used to be the fast way once you found a chip in the next. all victims plans that according to symmetric pattern, which is universal around what that doesn't matter as the victims from russia, from the us or germany. it's always the same. and they are basically implanted symmetric in all the major joints alco, shoulders, hips needs, and even down to the, to the thing is with smaller my projects. so there's also scientific paper on for the area networks that exactly describes this technology does to be found in dixon . so when you actually look at where you find them like projects you realize, oh my god, it is a quote and it system on the human body. so with this ford and it system one can amazon rest of the energy weapons gets a chance to ship communicate backs as a signal? yes, i see some energy and then you can, you can target the individual. so the, the standards victim this and that,

that was also the same and the emphasis by the way, people described having that heads target to me. but sometimes also things like hawks and loans. they have difficulty breathing and nothing's actually to stand the victim report. so i'm evicted myself and i can tell you that you can see it would be and you can feel it scanned across your body. you can feel a changing from one side of the body to the other. when you have pain, suddenly switch him. it says it has nothing to do with the human brain because it's divided into hemisphere. so having, you know, always paint on one side of the body could be an actual disease or natural ailment . but when it switches bodies hops very rapidly, that is usually an external attack. so this is how to go about proving that these people actually are genuine victims and nothing targeted. and immediately after this began happening in cuba, the state department and the c. i a commission studies to get to the bottom of the causes, at least that's what they said they would do. the state departments,

jason advisory group finally said in early 2022, that it was not likely that the symptoms were being caused by a directed energy weapons. also in early 2020 to the c. i a released report saying that in 976 of 1000 cases of havana syndrome, they could confirm that the symptoms were not a result of a hostile foreign power without drawing any definitive conclusions. these studies speculated that the causes of havana send room could be ultra sound waves or they could be pesticides, but then a blue ribbon panel of the national academies of sciences, engineering and medicine, said that the likeliest cause was microwave energy, specifically directed, pulsed r. f energy, what do you know about the fall out from exposure to this kind of energy? yeah, it's, yeah, so in terms of fall out from this energy this,

it depends on what frequency, what intensity, what exact weapon is being used. so this directed energy weapons that cause uh, basically, electromagnetic soft waves. if you get targeted by that, it's feels like to being hit on the head with a hammer. it's kendall, it can knock you out, it can cause stroke. 15 falls haas attacks. they can also use a plastic or microwaves to quite literally, for high people's brain. okay? so just as much as you focused states in the microwave, you can pull parts of the house muscle through. that's, you know, you can even make a hot explode that has been done to an officer and they tell cv, was exposing production and prod you read books about, you know, the model, the actual, perhaps it is. and one day his health exploded that pretty impossible. you know, medical incidence, but that's very easy to do by just aiming a microwave beam at somebody's hawkins, you know, causing it all directed energy weapons as an actual shock with so as

a sentence can be seen right on my forehead. i had an entire section of this brand into my forehead by directive energy west instead of human cause. and i am just me when i'm driving my costs so you can have dining symptoms as well, depending on the energy. but the tissue damage is, is typically to come in time. i should also say that that's directed under to weapons fill in. i have a wait list which one uh, shop 2 holes and 2 sheet metal in our home. but by the west end was launched from the group and it shot through the roof and the floor without leaving a trace. and we had, she's metal we was hiding in the basement, actually moved the bedroom into the basement because of the attacks on us. and we had put a mental white boards on the ground floor on the ground to shield ourselves on the floor below. and as in the middle of the night,

we had these loud bangs and went upstairs and found 2 holes in the, in the sheet metal. but there was no hole in the roof and the ceiling a boss. so this is a directed energy weapon that is directing the energy along it to me very precisely to try to shoot through metal shielding by re leaving the roof and the floor. you know, ceiling and so off the floor from vgm homes. so these entities can be cassidy tuned as well. that's the some way actually has its maximum impacts. and what that means is that you can somebody as invested as the thing at his desk, inside the embassy, maybe in the window of this room. and from the drones. you can, you can quite which the, you know, shoes, his brain on his top, making him have an instantaneous shop to the hot pots attack or, you know, cause the connect property in 9 years. and frankly, things like that. so anything is possible with this technology spilling. catherine,

thank you. we're speaking with an est with the blower bill benny and his wife catherine about havana syndrome and directed energy weapons. we're going to take a short break, but stay with us. we're going to get into what the us government may be planning in the way of new weapons for future battlefields and how those weapons are tested. but more importantly, we'll talk to bill about his own experience with these weapons. 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 the, the russian states never. i've side as i'm one of the most sense community best ingles, all sense and up the,

in the system must be the one else holes. question about this, even though we real fan in the european union, the kremlin media mission, the state on the rush to day and split the r t. suppose next, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube, the payment services for the question, did you say a request, which is the where it's in yet? i love you. done, boss. my name's still serious maximus crane. i'm an american citizen. and then yes . which is why i'm here to show you back home to the west, the truth. and as you can see,

my government supplied weapons of struck for civilian area. this isn't a military target, this is a, a grocery store the total massage table. so you can imagine how these people were like this for 9 years, and there are children here. i'm telling you that have died because of my government. the united states government's funding of this list. more of the baby here in a civilian populated area which civilians right here you can see an impact of the seas are so just makes me angry. i'm sorry. oh, i mean, i know, but still you know, you feel responsible as an american to, as all forces were hiding in civilian structures, the machine. and so we saw outside the

courtyard, the nazi tattoos on his body. our journey is that it's good versus evil. i pray that and i pray that victory comes soon and i believe it will the welcome back to the list of lawyers. i'm john kerry onto were speaking with famed and a say was a blower. bill benny bill was one of the leading technological mines in the american government before becoming one of the most important whistle blowers and recent history. today we're joined by him and by his wife, dr. catherine horton. a former high energy physicists and research fellow at the university of oxford to discuss havana syndrome and directed energy weapons. good to have you both with us. bill. i know that you've been suffering with symptoms.

consistent with advantage syndrome. we're told studies conducted by different governmental entities, found the initial phase is a result of a sonic disturbance and 15 percent of people who show havana. so syndrome symptoms also show a disruption in brain activity and eventually traumatic brain injury. what's your experience been like as well? mine, i don't think is a uh, so have in a syndrome type is like, uh, implants, because i've got, and i'm being treated for paying for it but, and the, the physician has never seen anything like this, but it's like 4 points on each of my legs. in a parallel position on both legs, in the pain, sometimes just alternates back and forth between those 4 points. i mean is a point pain. i can put a finger on it on each of the $8.00 on each leg. and that's where the pain is coming from. and then i have an x ray that shows something in that there's something in there. i've been trying to get somebody to take it up there. i think

they're all afraid to take it off because might imply the gums doing something very, very sadistic. yeah, we should all know that that's a pain that still experiences a sort stream. yes. to go to special pain, clinic ways prescribe particularly strong and types of regulates, of pain medication. and that's usually not even enough to block out of pain as the torch as thoughts. and we call it torture because it would stop exactly on the alice. it sounds like sexy when bill wants to go to sleep and they will torture him throughout the night. and that's, that's easy to pass on. so think try to be unnatural. sort of medical issues. have you been in touch with current or former government officials about this situation? what i'm curious about is what kind of response you get. many people want to just brush off the symptoms as psychosomatic, but they're documentable. what are others in a position either to know or to have an educated opinion telling you? and they're not, you know, there's not, they're just not getting involved. yeah,

i've seen the government officials usually blog. we don't get any responses to less, less is, but i should say that the us government has no, ever since obama and wants to buy a so called bioethics committee, where they were, they actually do the survey of targeted individuals and found detailed reports. i mean, this went on for a long time, they collected lots of material and then they said, oh thank you very much. goodbye. that's it. so people testified about what, but that they're being tortured to death in their own homes. they've provided evidence they provide at dr. certificates and the us government did absolutely nothing. now since the onset for that, the reason behind those, it's very obvious. they are doing it. they know exactly what they're doing and they just wanted to find out how well it's working and how people are responding to it. which is usually very badly, but it's uh uh we know what the signal switching program i personally have mitigates against. and my 6 in 2016,

i off the high court in london for an injunction against the attacks on me and the 3 days. 3 days after my 1st hearing, i survived my 1st estimation attempt on the road. this came off to my success. she gave me a death threats as i was going to the thoughts, so it was unmistakable, was that it was them, and it's also clear that they are doing it. that's when you analyze the victim cases, how they are distributed throughout europe. most of them are in germany and in north america, most of the victims on the united states. and you really my how, what is being done and how ruthless people are. i would say that this is really a global torching program. i think to get a little bit in, i'm get to watch it today during the torture. they typically experience anything that the, the, you know, that would be in the us and all of the intelligence agencies directed into to weapons, microwave branding, but also things like hacking and housebreaking impossible task. it's almost like

they are guinea pigs or trainings i'm use to train up the next generation of portraits to you. and i had a conversation about this issue years ago and you said something that has always stuck with me. you said it may sound crazy, but i think there's some science behind it. when talking about the complaints of people who said that they were suffering from the result of these directed energy attacks. can you tell us what you meant by that? can you explain what the sciences are, experiences that they can follow and people wherever they are, we trace these even in and go into europe. we trace the signals that were here and in different states like hitting us also went this over there. so, you know, it's like it's a, you know, they follow you ever wherever you go. i have one final question that i think many of us formerly in the intelligence community would have a lot of people who have worked in government. and especially in the post 1975 intelligence community have trouble concluding that the government would experiment

on innocent unwitting civilians. we know that the c i a certainly did this for many, many years from the early 19 fifties until 1975. and the advent of the church committee, but deep down. do you think this is a government program? do you think the pentagon or perhaps the c i a or n s a are doing this? i think the, i think you just need the 3 that were primary are primarily responsible. i'm. i do see i all 50 i yeah. yeah. sorry. yeah. all of them all of the above. but i should also say that m i 6, the whole $55.00 is involved. bnb and germany is involved. we know the polish on both. so for a long time, we assume that it's a nate to why it's towards your program, but it's actually big of the nature of because nations that are not officially and they to also to ensure that the population. so it is really a global switching program. thank you. bill benny and dr. catherine horton for

helping us shed light on this new and very important issue. and thank you to our viewers for tuning in. in the 5th century, b, c, b, h in greek city, state of athens and city, state of sparta, fought each other in a conflict called the peloponnesian war. on the eve of that conflict, in an assembly of greek city, states seeking peace, a delegate from the city state of corinth, said many times before. now, we have told you we were likely to suffer from athens. and on each occasion, instead of taking to heart what we were telling you, you chose to suspect our motives and to consider that we were speaking only about our own grievances. well, that's the life of the whistle blower. why is it that when people make a revelation, so many members of the public or the government or the media, feel that it's just complaining? how many times have we seen whistle blowers make revelations only to be branded as

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