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we told you last season that many, many people across the united states and in a half dozen other countries have been diagnosed with a strange malady called havana. send drugs. the symptoms 1st again manifesting in 2016 when diplomats at the us embassy and havana cuba begin reporting things ranging from physical pain to bringing in the years to cognitive difficulties. many had diagnosable from madison brain injuries. the us government initially dismissed the symptoms as the product of crickets. yes, crickets, but something more sinister was likely behind it. multiple investigations from nearly every part of the american intelligence community lead only to inconclusive results. and yet more and more people are complaining about these same symptoms. i'm john curiosity. welcome to the whistle, blowers the

. 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 preventive syndrome is a perplexing condition when diplomats at the us embassy and havana begin reporting, things like physical pain, migraines, nausea, ringing in the ears and even traumatic brain injuries. the state department and the department of defense called the events anomalous health incidents. c, i a director william burns called them a tax after several senior c i. a officers said that they had been targeted. but after a preliminary look, the government decided that the situation was one of mass hysteria caused by nothing but the noise made by crickets. when they were seeking to meet, that was ridiculous, of course, and it was wrong in the following months, in years, dozens of american diplomats and government officials in places as far flung as noise, bogota, washington, australia, moscow, and elsewhere reported symptoms associated with havana syndrome. even the sea ice

former station chief and moscow resigned from the agency and let a lawsuit saying that he too was the victim of havana syndrome. and that the c i a was not taking him or other victim seriously. doctors now confirmed that this syndrome is real, there's verifiable, damage done to victims, and many of them can show evidence of these traumatic brain injuries. but there is no treatment, no rhyme or reason why some individuals seem to be targeted, while others are not. and no admission from any element of the us government or from any other government for that matter that this is real and something needs to be done about it. as time has passed, since we learned about the 1st case is more and more people have raised the question of whether havana syndrome might be the result of something called a directed energy weapon. it sounds far fetched to many, could the american government, could any government actually be testing new weapons on unwitting civilians?

williams bill benny was the 4th racking officer and the national security agency, or n s a at the time of the september 11th attacks. as the agencies technical director, he was one of the most highly cleared officers in the entire organization. and he later became one of the most important national security whistle blowers in american history. and his wife dr. catherine horton is a former high energy physicist and research fellow at the university of oxford, england, and his investigating directed energy weapons. bill benny has accomplished a lot in his life. he likely didn't expect to count themself among the americans who have experienced the effects of havana syndrome. well, talk to him about the possibility that this is in fact a weapon. bill catherine, welcome for so happy to have you. going to be with nice. we here to bill katherine, let's begin with the basics of havana sand drum. this seemed to come as a surprise to just about everybody. and indeed,

it wasn't even discovered until 2016 based on what you know, what are the signs of havana syndrome? and why haven't we heard about it or it's symptoms before 2016? well, my wife is more adapted answering, but what i know about those kinds of single into them is the, is that some of this very similar kind of thing occurred in the moscow embassy in the early 19 seventy's. and it was due to microwave radiation. and i think that that's probably says something to do with this somehow, but yeah i, i would that part of the things i would like to point out is that when i read to the official symptoms, sight, nausea ringing in the is the 1st thing i noticed especially about the ringing in d is that one has to be very careful because they have different lessons technologies at play here. so in principle, one can cause there's something called the fry effect. you can crank up the power on the microwave, a mess have to pass this head and it's assessment intensity. dispassion can hear

the microwave, today's basically tyrants being induced in your auditory system. and then one can hear a ringing. however, a m o, all the targeted individuals of which they are styles and it says united states alone. there's also another way to cost this. and that's because of also being done as embassy stuff which is using and previous sam plans of mine for chip. and then torturing people with bringing in years by basically pumping white noise to the micro check. now when people were discussing have on a syndrome, they wanted to focus on directed energy weapons on microwave energy and so on. and that's true, that soft stuff. but once it starts, but then also one has to keep in mind that the embassy stuff in particular would be c i, a agents who, which has been on f, b i, agents wasn't being implanted without their knowledge. and commonsense is micro chips almost. you know, you know, for 4 months, so that is also another way of switching people and, and also my projects are in my experience being used to guide the weapons through

the walls. so if you're aiming a microwave on directed engine lessons at somebody through maybe one wall, maybe the several walls which is entirely possible. you need some sort of mock a to know that you have to hit the pass and there are some, you know, guiding technology. but if you really want to target somebody's head, especially when they're sitting at the desk, moving back and forth, it helps having more because of, you know, technology already on the past and might prove that the non consensual wanted micro chips that then gives you a coordinate system and i say that because in the analysis we've done, i've worked with the belgian university where we have a scans, victims who complains about directed energy weapon attacks. we found wiper chance and all of them one can actually measure the radio frequency and mission for these like projects. now for those who are ready to struggle with somebody else in room that's very far out to then take out the technology. but usually this comes as

a package that was on social implants and goes along with directed energy weapon attacks. and pretty much a 100 percent of the cases. i mentioned in a previous episode of the show that not a single day goes by, that i don't receive an email from somebody who believes that he or she is suffering from some sort of government experimentation. in many cases, these people quite unfortunately are mentally ill. but in many cases, they are legitimately suffering from something and they have the m r i's and the cat scans to prove it. is it possible to differentiate between people who need to be medicated and people who are suffering as a result of something electronic? yeah, that is a, that is actually very, very easy to do. and what i would say so that again, the 2 things. one is the directive energy weapon attacks, which usually happens and then the attack this stuff. so unless one can catch them in the act and report live evidence,

this is something that i've done because i came under attack. i managed to film how i was being shot that was directed energy weapons and i use metal file to show that one could hear the impact and actually see the file move as well. and it completely sealed the rooms. so that's possible. that's all, it is much easier to prove that victims, in fact, victims enough mentally ill by finding the might projects. and as i said, we found micro chips and all of them. so the way to do that is to use a standard 5 detector. i've got one here that i always use because that's a very high frequency range from one megahertz to 6 gigahertz. and then one can it? she scanned the body. typically the strongest micro chip is in the mac, you know, experience. and then one can hold the microsoft sort this, someone can hold the, the, uh, uh, the back to tech, to, to the next, and move it around, change the angle until it shows the signal and the smoking gun evidence. and that

also distinguishes the micro chip from any background radiation assess the whole that you can reproduce this any time of the day. you will always find the micro chip. but more importantly, that's a radiation from these micro chips is polarized, which means that at the 2nd angle you will see the maxim. so little ellie. these show up as you pick up the signal, and you will see the maximum signal at the assessment angle. it will go down as you change the angle. so that is the telltale side for full rice radiation. background radiation typically is on full arrives, so it doesn't matter how you 60 and turn that into a room upstairs. why fi, mobile phone communications. you always pick up a signal, but this is mike, which it's a very, very specific. so that is used to be the fast way once you found a chip in the next. all victims plans that according to symmetric paso, which is universal around what all this doesn't matter as the victims of, from russia from the us or germany. it's always the same. and they are basically

implanted symmetric in all the major joins alco shoulders. it's nice and even down to the, to the thing is with smaller my projects. so there's also scientific paper on for the area networks that's exactly describes this technology does be found in dixon. so when you actually look at where you find them like projects you realize, oh my god, it is a quote and it system on the human body. so with this ford and it system one can amazon rest of the energy weapons gets a chance. it should communicate backs as a signal. yes, i see some energy and then you can, you can target the individual. so the, the standards victim this and that, that was also the same. and the emphasis by the way, people described having that heads target to me. but sometimes also things like hot and loans. they have difficulty breathing. nothing's actually to stand the victim report. so i'm a victim myself and i can tell you that you can see it would be and you can feel it

scanned across your body. you can feel a changing from one side of the body to the other when you have pain, suddenly switch him says it has nothing to do with the human brain because it's divided into hemisphere. so having, you know, always paint on one side of the body could be an actual disease or a natural ailment. but when it switches bodies hops very rapidly, that is usually an external attack. so this is how to go about proving that these people actually are genuine victims and not being targeted. and immediately after this began happening in cuba, the state department and the c, i a commission, studies to get to the bottom of the causes, at least that's what they said they would do. the state departments, jason advisory group finally said in early 2022, that it was not likely that the symptoms were being caused by a directive energy weapons. also in early 2020 to the c. i a released report saying that in 976 of 1000 cases of havana syndrome,

they could confirm that the symptoms were not a result of a hostile foreign power without drawing any definitive conclusions. these studies speculated that the causes of havana send room could be ultra sound waves or they could be pesticides, but then a blue ribbon panel of the national academies of sciences, engineering and medicine, said that the likeliest cause was microwave energy, specifically directed, pulsed r. f energy, what do you know about the fall out from exposure to this kind of energy? yeah, it's, yeah, so in terms of fall out from this energy this, it depends on what frequency, what intensity, what exact weapon is being used. so this directed energy weapons that caused saw basically, electromagnetic shop ways, if you get targeted by that, it's feels like to being hit on the head with a hammer. it's kendall, it can knock you out, it can cause strokes at saint paul's hoss attacks. they can also use

a plastic for my, for ways to quite literally, for high people's brain. okay. so just as much as you focused stating the microwave . you can pull parts of the house muscle through. that's, you know, you can even make a hot explode that has been done to an officer and because civic was exposing corruption and prod you read books about, you know, modeled on the actual perhaps it is. and one day his health exploded pretty impossible. you know, medical incidence, but that's very easy to do by just aiming a microwave beam at somebody's hawkins, you know, causing it all directed energy restroom is an actual shock way. so as a sentence can be seen right on my forehead. i had an entire set to that this brand into my forehead by direct to the energy west instead of human costs and not a just me when i'm driving my costs. so you can have binding symptoms as well, depending on the energy. that's a tissue damage is,

is typically they come in time. i should also say that that's directed on the to weapons fill in. i have a wait list, which one? uh, shop 2 holes and 2 sheet metal in our home. but by the west end was launched from the group and it shot through the roof and the flow without leaving a trace. and we had, she's metal we was hiding in the basement, actually moved the bedroom into the basement because of the attacks on us. and we had put a mental white boards on the ground floor on, on the ground prior to shield our sales on the floor below and, and in the middle of the night we had these loud signs and went upstairs and found 2 holes in the, in the sheet metal, but there was no hole in the roof and the ceiling above. so this is a directed energy weapon that is directing the energy along it to me right precisely to try to shoot through metal shielding by re leaving the roof and the

floor. you know, ceiling and so off the floor of the home. so these energies can be cassidy tube. that's what, that's the shockwave actually has its maximum impact. and what that means is that you can somebody as invested as speaking at his desk, inside the embassy, maybe in the window of this room, from the drone. you can, you can quite which the, you know, shoes, his brain or his ha, making him have an instantaneous shop to the hoss of toss a tax for, you know, cause uh, what's the look like, property, an aneurism rainbow, anything like that. so anything is possible with this technology building, catherine, thank you. we're speaking with an est with the blower bill benny and his wife catherine about havana syndrome and directed energy weapons. we're going to take a short break, but stay with us. we're going to get into what the us government may be planning in the way of new weapons for future battlefields and how those weapons are tested.

but more importantly, we'll talk to bill about his own experience with these weapons. 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 the look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings accept. we're so shorter zip conflict with the 1st law show your mind, anticipation. we should be very careful about our professional intelligence at the point, obviously is to create a trust rather than fit the barriers with artificial intelligence. we have somebody in the team and the robot must protect this phone. existence was on the

the most people don't understand the global financial system and how financial resources are distributed. or the dominant financial group of course or, or the united states and u. k bikes. their objective is there are huge in many controlling the world's money flows, grants the power to wipe into nations of the face of the globe. moving to save this to the local in 3 in global anything. so i'm not gonna focus with the blue coke space. think longer and political, the rest of what it produced gives him business. when we lived on a guy, the really clear the good looking

the listening to you out pull that were to present the apple store any clear or seek us at the feed folk. let me see, oh, the one go down to the all new to these all free. the welcome back to the list of lawyers. i'm john kerry, onto were speaking with famed and a say was a blower. bill benny bill was one of the leading technological mines in the american government before becoming one of the most important whistle blowers and recent history. today we're joined by him and by his wife, dr. catherine horton. a former high energy physicists and research fellow at the university of oxford to discuss havana syndrome and directed energy weapons. good to have you both with us. bill. i know that you've been suffering with symptoms. consistent with advantage syndrome. we're told studies conducted by different

governmental entities, found the initial phase is a result of a sonic disturbance and 15 percent of people who show havana. so syndrome symptoms also show a disruption in brain activity and eventually traumatic brain injury. what's your experience been like? well mine i don't think is a so have in a syndrome type is like an implants, because i've got, and i'm being treated for paying for it but, and the, the physician has never seen anything like this, but it's like 4 points on each of my legs. in a parallel position on both legs, in the pain, sometimes just alternates back and forth between those 4 points. i mean, as a point pain, i can put a finger on it on each of the $8.00 on each leg. and that's where the pain is coming from. and then we have an x ray that shows something in that it is. so it may have been trying to get somebody to take it up there. i think they're all afraid to take it off because might imply the government's doing something very

very. so just yeah, we should know that that's a pain that still experiences a sort stream. yes. to go to special pain, clinic ways prescribe particularly strong and types of regulates of pain medication . and that's usually not even enough to block out of pain of the torch of thoughts and we call it torture because it would stop exactly on the alice. it sounds like sexy when 0 wants to go to sleep and they will torture him throughout the night and that's, that's easy to pass on. so things try to be unnatural. sort of medical issues. have you been in touch with current or former government officials about this situation? what i'm curious about is what kind of response you get. many people want to just brush off the symptoms as psychosomatic, but they're documentable. what are others in a position either to know or to have an educated opinion telling you? and they're not, you know, there's not, they're just not getting involved. yeah,

i've seen the government officials usually blog. we don't get any responses to less, less is, but i should say that the us government has no, ever since obama and wants to buy a so called bioethics committee, where they were, they actually do the survey of targeted individuals and found detailed reports. i mean, this went on for a long time, they collected lots of material and then they said, oh thank you very much. good bye. that's it. so people testified about what that they're being tortured to death in their own homes. they've provided evidence they provide as dr. certificates and the us government did absolutely nothing. now since the onset for that, the reason behind at this very obvious, they are doing it. they know exactly what they're doing and they just wanted to find out how well it's working and how people are responding to it. which is usually very badly, but it's uh uh we know what the signal switching program i personally have mitigates against. and my 6 in 2016, i off the high court in london for an injunction against the attacks on me and

a 3 days and 3 days after my 1st hearing, i survived my 1st estimation attempt on the road. this came off to my success. she gave me a desperate as i was going to the port, so it was unmistakable, was that it was them, and it's also clear that they are doing it. that's when you analyze the victim cases, how they are distributed throughout europe. most of them are in germany and in north america, most of the victims on the united states. and you really my how, what is being done and how ruthless people are. i would say that this is really a global torching program. i think to get low, but then i'm get to watch it today during the torture, they typically experience anything that the, the, you know, that would be in the us and all the intelligence agencies directed into 2 weapons, microwaves, branding, but also things like hacking and housebreaking. impossible task. it's almost like they are guinea pigs or trainings i'm use to train up the next generation of

portraits to you. and i had a conversation about this issue years ago and you said something that has always stuck with me. you said it may sound crazy, but i think there's some science behind it. when talking about the complaints of people who said that they were suffering from the result of these directed energy attacks. can you tell us what you meant by that? can you explain what the sciences are, experiences that they can follow and people wherever they are, we trace these even in and go into europe. we trace the signals that were here and in different states like hitting us also went this over there. so you know, it's not, it's a, you know, they follow you ever wherever you go. i have one final question that i think many of us formerly in the intelligence community would have a lot of people who have worked in government. and especially in the post 1975 intelligence community have trouble concluding that the government would experiment

on innocent unwitting civilians. we know that the c i a certainly did this for many, many years from the early 19 fifties until 1975. and the advent of the church committee, but deep down. do you think this is a government program? do you think the pentagon or perhaps the c i a or n s a are doing this? i think the, i think you just name the 3. the primary are primarily responsible i'm. i do see i all 50 i yeah. yeah, sorry, yeah. all of them all of the above. but i should also say that in my 6, the whole 5 isn't vol. bnb and germany is involved. we know the polish on both. so for a long time we assume that it's a nate to why it's towards your program, but it's actually big of the nature because nations that are not officially and they to also torture that the population. so it is really a global switching program. thank you. bill benny and dr. catherine horton for

helping us shed light on this new and very important issue. and thank you to our viewers for tuning in. in the 5th century b, c, b, h, in greek city, state of athens and city, state of sparta, fought each other in a conflict called the peloponnesian war. on the eve of that conflict, in an assembly of greek city, states seeking peace, a delegate from the city state of corinth, said many times before. now, we have told you we were likely to suffer from athens. and on each occasion, instead of taking the heart what we were telling you, you chose to suspect our motives and to consider that we were speaking only about our own grievances. well, that's the life of the whistle blower. why is it that when people make a revelation, so many members of the public or the government or the media, feel that it's just complaining? how many times have we seen, whistle blowers make revelations only to be branded as fantasies or crack pots that

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