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tv   Worlds Apart  RT  October 29, 2023 2:30am-3:01am EDT

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actually have to report on death reality, rather than trying to preemptively shape the the frame. and so in that case, very rare case, reality seems to be something perceptions. what does it mean in terms of the global uh, informational award? because whether we like it or not, their, their reason battle of narrative is going on. like a sudden, i think this is a very significant developments in the west, the media and several science. first, of course the wisdom media, it was called god. because we all remember it was 3 weeks ago. jake's all of them, the national security advisor, united states, tried to convince everyone that the middle east was the most peaceful position within decades right on the west of need. it seemed to believe that they deliberately tried to ignore the question of these available as the new off linked . and we'll just kind of be off the brackets thing with forget about it and focus
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on different things. second points uh, i think that was going on in gaza now is the putting the west of media in a very awkward position. and the west is basically losing the global information more because israel unquestionably is a part of the bustle of the west. but today after experiencing this. busy looking at back there was that back, israel in it's term is conducting a process is on such a scale that you can't really present that support shape the narrative. busy of a justified proportion of use of force and justified self defense you, you've got to do it. and this really boats, the immediate universe report what position they have to report on what's going on . instead of trying to shape the narrative of easily all being on the good side of history, i wonder how the understand the math and the f was government assuming results to
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obtain cause and by force. because uh for all hughes fiber and rhetoric, benjamin netanyahu is known as a highly calculating politician. he cannot be ignorant of all the possible repercussions of such a move military civilian economic international. and by proceeding with a military operation, is there a wouldn't be destroying the very status for the itself, how to create and maintain why take such as future risk? well uh 1st i, i think the whole needs this uh to prolong cheese political existence, you know, because people and where to ask questions. how it all would happen. people both of the blame on the a by the way and his government personally cleaning quite right, lit up that's a certain the indicators were ignored at the level of political leadership. and they actually made this
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a situation possible. so they be are the political responsibilities in order to avoid paying the price for. busy that i think if i'm the uncle wants to the soul, the card on the golf, leave him a bigger conflict. which key is now trying to deliberately create the bigger conflict, i think is a conflict with bureau and what we are seeing. and i think this is over madison phones, yahoo is trying to do to shift the narrative to, you know, completely see the narrative claiming that what is going on. he has nothing to do with the goal is the name is really conflict. bruce that the real reason before uh the uh for the crisis is your app. but yeah, the, i mean, sure. did you hear something? because i think this is a very interesting analysis of the assignments done. having a war with around which is still a state actor, therefore it's far more responsible and in some ways more predictable. what suit
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israel's current situation? because of the one hand you don't have to invade gaza as they have been suggesting or have been talking about. but on the other hand, it essentially, it allows them to have a more, but the sort of an easier word is that what you're suggesting? well, it's not necessarily easy. it was a certainly, it'd be go more of a war on several fronts because it would definitely involve kids belie and the level. well, in general, it was also editable. it seems to be involved with the united states and i say it on yahoo as calculus is that if there is such a such an escalation on the wall from just if you're a low go costler in gaza to a broader conflict, at least with. busy busy be around, you know, brocks is and at the maximum with itself, the united states would have to engage. and that would, you know,
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completely suite you have what it was that, that shouldn't, for all. why actually because the back from the what's the use of them is a proxy more, but a proxy word that will be the 4th a rather than by israel, by the united states. it's the same thing. but shifting the, the burden onto the bigger actor, you have uh, with the help of the united states and ethan yahoo calls to prevail in this brought a conflict with him. and eventually a term a, you know, turn out as and when are you this ground? can foundation against you not meaning they just talked to the floors, but you know, reducing the iranian outrage and abuse lambs. busy the neighboring regions, neighboring regions for uh, for israel envelope i think it is very significant because ease of elk is low position you're on multiple is damian's most ada spots iran as the major as
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a special but for itself. so veiling. busy with these eggs, this special bread will make me the whole. there we are, you know, one of the biggest winters in these regular history instead of a loser, because of domestic political struggles and frictions actually made this, that, that by almost possible, i think this explain skills got on behaviors and don't want to ask her about the israeli posting and problem which exists for so many days here so that i think we all have become somewhat detached and desensitized to what is actually happening on the ground. and what is happening on the ground is that it is essentially a huge human pressure cooker. and in gaza, that's been generating range and resistance for 3 generations and perhaps want we'll continue to do so for many more. um, it's like a real live laboratory for turning humans into human blogs because this is what
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people become when they're denied some semblance of dignified life. for way too long, can you even think about possible ways of defusing this mixer for co, explosive device made of millions of human souls? well, i think the oldest way to refuse this problem is degree to release the state to a, you know, a change completely. the bullet says we've been contacting with by israel, we, they sell the united states, so they should have been deliberately trying actually do this, solve this problem. you know, by, by the settlement flawlessly, by the eyes, elation ball is that, uh, by pointing people as being an issue, be all the brackets by focusing on iran, by focusing on these really solve the problem small over the recent uh months. you know, i know this makes this explosion,
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the really possible and inevitable. so if you do be, if you have to create the listing and stay cool and bo this dino state forest. secondly, you have to guarantee its existence from the security perspective for all day come on a perspective you have to, you know, do invest into ballast time and bring some of build up some real economy. uh there with the help of neighboring countries that is being being installed. god knows like jordan, you egypt, israel, and sell because after all, all now we see the, the color black does not really guarantee is really a secured us. and so we have to return to the spirit the awfully agreements of mines. and i are just for emily, jack basically depaula's this uh, the kind of been conducting wrongly off the words, but unfortunately more but just by israel bus by the united states as well. can i ask you something here? uh, because one of your colleagues federal piano said recently the one of the things that
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this rupture of wine has, has demonstrated is that a strategy of binding time and essentially putting a frozen conflict on hold, on hold in the hold. so if petering out by itself doesn't seem to work, it seems to be pretty dangerous. and the semblance of control that these rails may have had, has been not just broken. it was broken in a very humiliating and i totally sadistic way. but from what you've been suggesting about and it's in the office attempt to move or to shift all the attention to it to ron, it seems like he's still pursuing the same tactics. what can possibly for swift israel to change its time guessing the americans want to be taking for arrive here by israel? well 1st of course you have to come down and convince these rail. it leads and society in israel as well. you know, to focus on palestine instead of iraq will be difficult. right?
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because isabel has been convinced itself off your, on most of the bull is being, it's being used as a special threat and the real and the real a danger. how to do it? well i think that the world has changed significantly. ready since my engine settled is even a 19 miners and the major change is the emergence of the world, the majority of it as a subject of international affairs says something that does cause huge agency or m, i are, you know, causes lifestyle. the egypt of talk is no longer just the objects of great power confrontation. they are the subjects. they are the actors of. they can create a new reality together with these were right. uh and uh, i think it, we just are the dimensional community of the world majority. it simply needs to
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convince israel that it is impossible for israel to continue. uh, you know, the existing bullets this as a, as it was, it was more bring secure to say, you know, the united states, as most of the, the kind of the united states that was in my engine light is extra with the interest to let, let me i'm sorry for interrupting you over time, but let me stop your desk here because this is a very important question. the role of the americans in these, this whole configuration. let's address it after a very, very short break. we're moving back, stay tuned. the, the
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russian states never as tight as on one of the most on screen and the best english i'll send, send up the speed . what else calls question about this? even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin machine, the state on the rush for the day and split the r t spoke neck, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube tv services. what question did you say from stephen twist, which is the,
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[000:00:00;00] the welcome back to was a point with the make sure so slim deputy director of the center for comprehensive if you're a fan and international studies at the higher school of economics and must go meter and just before the break, we were talking about the, the whole new world demand emerging, the global majority, the, the needs to put pressure on israel. and of course, it's impossible to have this conversation without mentioning the americans who have always assumed the role of a chaperone of these rarely posting and conflicts. and i wonder, uh oh, rather let me repeat the 2nd part of my previous question. that is,
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do you think that americans want to be used by israel is as the big proxy with big guns with lots of influence g thing they want to be utilized in such a way that they usually utilize other countries of the united states. i think it is or is have put themselves in that are difficult position. first, the bite on administration tries to build bridges with the world majority. i think the great and conflict that showed very explicitly of that the global majority is multi at the side of the united states, the us as losing global voice. and they tried to reverse it, white accommodating major countries in the global majority that including solve their area, which they do not. once you know further. 1 a partnership with the, with china and dicing the, actually one of the major reasons why the us for promoting this solid is really rep or as long is to try to at least limits the solid, the bottom, if it was jack. and so then i did,
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states means global majority this as far as point, but on the, on the other hand, uh easily, oh, is it possible american domestic politics, not just the, of the us for as well as a bunch of the american domestic politics. these really question is all you do boston's and thus, you know, it is very difficult, will do not it states, you know, they try to most to attack an ice israel on the why don't you have the come to for doing that because of the domestic. ready critical vectors, but they call the 4th for the going to is a, so all the global mature of the same. but right, and uh, in the, what does it mean? it means that the united states, per se, can no longer monopolize the is available as the question they try, they fail, they can no longer continue as the, let's talk about monopolizing because, i mean,
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i think this in this case, provides a very important listen, was test for leadership and by leadership, i mean not just the rhetorical statements of support the nation, but actual, difficult, painstaking work off why diplomacy, uh, negotiating skills, etc. and it doesn't seem like the united states possesses any of that. i mean, now the situation is actually calling for a bold, responsible leadership and look at the, the track records of floating in the united nations security council that they, they don't seem to be able to do anything. and, you know, like, my question here is actually, uh, is, this is a dissertation uh, demonstrating that the united states, even if it wants to be a leader. i mean, it can be a leader in a stations when you know if the participation is not necessary, but when it is calling for it, they don't seem to possess even the skills of approaching it as well. absolutely. absolutely. are you know,
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why didn't the continues to say that the united states hold the world together? i think the reality is adjust the quote. i think that's in the middle east, the original powers, the global majority, or the world much or the cap and want to cap kept the situation together or avoiding escalation. whereas the united states is the reason for these to be licensed agent. and now we see just the questionable proof of that in the case of the escalation in uh, in the uh, in the middle east. uh, so in the united states, kim, lot the provides the necessary on leadership. uh, the course is focused on other priorities because the priorities of the united states is struggling in china and struggling in getting process and keeping the needle east,
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either way that it cannot be title dominated by china or by russia. so the view of the situation from the perspective of great baldwin competition, most of the perspective of regional security. and also from the perspective of day domestic bolts go combined. the united states cannot be a fair and effective means either. so you have to add to it creates the participation of the world much your, that comprising of both global actors like russia, china, maybe brazil, you know, the brakes. uh, as a cool and the regional players, of course, including israel, but also including your on in the air of a major companies. i as the it as a, as an institutionalized ational collective literacy. so most american junior level one but collective literature by the world majority, i think, is necessary to resolve this crisis now. now, uh us bring our discussion a little bit closer to home because of where the last 2 or 3 years we have well
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been following the confrontation in an over ukraine between russia and the collective west. and i've heard many analysis on the list, including yourself, said that the next world order, the new composition of the international system will be based on the outcome of done by the battle. i wonder if what's happening in the middle east can change the prediction. do you see any implications all for this latest interruption of violence and the focus of international attack, attention on it for the ukrainian from? well, i think that's the needle. eastern conflict is also a very clear indicator of the failure of the west to be you sustainable international order. right? the west, the united states has tried and failed and now it is impossible to bring sustainable
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stability into the middle east. for the oh, i mean, you, we've all been, uh, assuming that it's the ultimate goal to create peace and the, you know, sustainable development. but uh, on 32 months buying into the american rhetoric. do they actually want to be there's what i'm saying? they don't, i'm in the best uh, you know, they, the similarity between the ukraine off live down the middle east on the conflict is that in both cases, united states is trying to for a long day to jump on it. instead of building police right out of the complex themselves are instruments for the united states to continue. it's gives you more like bullets. it's right by defeating the birth of it. so in the middle east, they tried to weaken and defeated the wrong in the ukraine. they tried to weaken a defeat process and so on, so forth. so it's not about stability. it's about the americans hegemony. right? uh, this as far as point. second point, of course. uh,
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the escalation in the middle east is a bad news uh for your brain because the, the, the, the global and wisdom media is distract the political intention is distractive. just like what's going on in the american congress won't just because they're presented those, but even the republican senators, they've been traditionally more friendly. it is a view green claiming does in the context of the escalation of the middle east. there's no way, but they're not as states to sustain the previous numbers of them, so they'll be able to support this service and the career critical issue uh for us to discuss. because i know that a couple of months ago, you predicted that the, you more predicting that the united states uh would be increasing that military support, the visit landscape, government in quantitative and qualitative terms. uh, it seems like uh your changing your opinion on that. i mean, is it uh, ultimately sustainable especially not only in the views of israel's plans,
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but within the prospect of a major regional conflict, they assure, in the united states may need that weapons, those weapons squared. so i think that i was absolutely right because i was making those predictions in the context of the beginning of ukrainian calendar offensive towards the sea of us. all right, it was just the initial stages of, of course, the west was going to be is a to helping ukraine in a full scale way to make this call the compet offensive effect of so the, the west was really increasing. it's, we were developed through your brain quantities of weight as well as the delay over the last several months, including of course, the provision of cluster bombs or at that comes a long range, ballistic missiles, the promise to deliver essex, do you find those b? and so on and so forth. so it was really the case, but now the situation changed, right? the major difference why i have,
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i'm not changing my opinion of this race on change a, the cranium called on offensive failed. every model recognizes that. secondly, use the radio is more vital and email them to buy your the, for the uh, for the united states. so uh, taken together, of course the west will reduce the color of the quote that the of its uh, shelves to you, great. the by the installation will not provide you green balls, but i think we should forget about a prospect of another major degree. i'm calling profess as next year, at least right here. and can i ask you something very quick because we have running out of time, but i think this is a coastal problem you've been riding along the the, one of the major reasons for confrontation of is the rush on the western side is what it are. western attempts to, uh, st, rushed off with great power status and re power means being able to influence events practically, on the ground, diplomatically, economically. sometimes,
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militarily, do you think they may ever come a point when the united states would not supply those russian abilities to influence a balance, but actually try to benefit from them either in the ukraine or let's say in the context of the middle east. because russia does have a lot of capacity for settling disputes in a fair and balanced way. well, the, the idea list, the image that you have created requires a fundamental change of the major problem with our. so the us for, and both sides and all. see that in the making in the observable future. i think that during the next down 15 maybe 20 years, the united states will be still obsessed with the great power struggle. struggling russia and struggling china will be focused on uh, you know, uh,
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preservation of american primacy and a, he gemini, in the world even in the absence of it's a huge you, i'm gonna, um, of the even, you know, despite a certain generational change of, despite the change of the mood and model republicans, i'm the left is the liberal democrats, the us foreign policy, still monopolized by the deep state and the traditional establishment which are committed to the boss cold war paradigm of the us global leadership. so much more internal and external crisis unfortunately wouldn't be required and for the united states to reject this policy will come from being a russia they will continue the hybrid war against bratia and sustain me. confrontational bonuses? unfortunately, you opt to there is a ceasefire or resolution of the conflict in the ukraine. they will continue
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sanctions. they will continue to demonize ational process. unfortunately, i do not see any indication of any c and uh, for a change of american for in bullets. it'd be, it'd be a rush right to the door. some improvement in the, in the observable prospect into longer to prospect. and i, e friend, when the united states find a list accepts the yellow, it is a multi polarity and starts to play a role of one among many. this change will certainly become in the editable. well, let me try and find it a very black or rather pessimistic picture. i would use the israel's, the recent problems as a glory, but to some extent inspiring example. because reality still has its ways of, of imposing himself onto perceptions. and if that happened to is around maybe that will also happen to the united states, although i hope in the less blood the way we,
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we have to leave it there. but it's been a great pleasure, as always, for me to talk to thank you very much. for your insights, thank you. it's on the post list. thank you for watching hope to see where again kind of was a part of the
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