comfortable, my show is called stretching time, but again, it's not. we don't want to watch it because it might just change the way inside the the hello and welcome across stock. were all things are considered on peter a little because it is back after going dark and being cut off from the world. israel continues to deny god, but everything needed to sustain modern life. in the meantime, the west collectively turns a blind died to the collective punishment, palestinians, the

discuss these issues and more. i'm joined by my guess, martin j in america. she's an award winning journalist and commentator. and in budapest we cross the george samuel we. he's a pod cast or at the gabble which can be found on youtube and locals. are gentlemen cross up rules and the fact that you can jump anytime you want, and i would appreciate it. okay, let's go to america. so much is happening. it's happening so fast as well. we had a for about a day and a half we. it appeared that um, well in fact it did happen cause it went black. um no outside contact as we speak right now. there contacts with the internet and other communications is being restored slowly. um that, um, i suppose the biggest thing that's going on right now in my mind is how the collective west is decided to collectively turn its back on palestinian suffering. and it's really just breathtaking because, you know, we were, we, all 3 in our viewers were very skeptical in mock,

this whole idea of green space to order. i guess we don't really have to market anymore because it's not a clickable in any, any world, any universe right now. go ahead mark. yeah, and it reminds us really, sadly, who is really in charge of the so called institutions that could hold america as well to account. you know, um the i c. c in the hague or, i mean it makes issues millcreek i think. awesome. um and um do you and where was do you and how come to you and possibly hold his head high in this international environment? i'm, i'm preached i'm or what usually is to the rest of the world when united and less is real do is, i mean, i would, i would also do, you would, must do something with this is what it must sort of suspends them or. ready make some sort of statement some, some sort of token just checking i but you know, they, the american americans calling the shots and um, i'm very skeptical. i'm very, very skeptical about this into the electricity blackout. you know, to me that just smacks of the not allowing social media content to be distributing

. yeah. you pick which is who is the human right? covering up for crying. so let's say come bring them or let me go to georgia, not only covering up more crimes, but it's something you and i have talked about ad nauseum georgia's that some of these really the idea of does not want the world to see how it fight. so it kills and how it may be, it is an x we as we were convening last week, martin pointed out that in terms of infantry is really, is not the best. um, it found itself to be quite weak here. and then we have content, you know, going from topic to topic very quickly and is really flag is being planted in the small part of the, of gauzy here is some kind of symbolism here. um, but you know, wanting to control the message by not allowing any come to with this quite interesting, isn't it george? well let's try that. um, but nonetheless, it's already clear that um the,

the message coming out of gaza is a, is a quite shocking one. and now we've seen a massive protest and some lots of euro, but we had a massive processed in london yesterday. we even had a massive protest in new york city. um and uh it is clear that some of israel and it is back up chief back of the united states are really kind of a global minority. now, what's really a much, really in the last 48 house is there isn't going to be this massive invasion. let me mention the apple moralist submitted that the, this easing cushions that we've been seeing. it's kind of cool that we're going to get um the, the that is it just doesn't have the will to go in and, and it's no fight, man to man, as we've discussed before. and,

but instead he would just simply go on inflicting of these uh casualties. um, now the way the united states is, uh, responded is, is quite shocking in any ways that it is never responded. you know, in a similar way in the past, i mean, even that, you know, some of the reading was a trust of is that is where they've committed such as the invasion 11 and 1982. i mean, it's now outright of persecuting organizations that express any sympathy for the palestinians. so we have to go to the wrong. the science is boasting that he is just simply by the student group appropriate of sending us to look what is, what is the basis salacious of the pro. and then you have these republican presidential candidates, including trunk, incidentally, who showed up at this republican jewish coalition. just simply blindly say, well, anti semitism is the same is uh and design is uh, as the summit is on,

has no place in america. therefore we need to a band if need to band any of organization. but his complicating on behalf of about spinning oh it's, it's really quite interesting. i'm glad you brought up the protest and that's the point out that the, the u. k. upstate and at the united nations which shows absolute power does on their part. and it shows that they're terrified of their own people. okay. but which was really interesting to both of you over all the direct is the market. is that um, there are a number of large jewish groups all through europe. and the united states saying israel does not speak for me, design is and isn't the synonymous, would be jewish to people. these people are pushing back because obviously they don't and not in my name is their message here. and that's pulling people out as well. but it shows martin, the isolation of so many governments in the west. yes, solution i most of the limited time,

i would say how much longer this situation carry on. because unlike you can, well, you have a huge contingency of people in london for example. i mean the estimation to a fiber in a 1000 on the street. you know, it's gonna be very difficult for the government and for um, cool center general is to keep going with it. it has now to when they'll just surrounded by so many people on social media questioning it. so i think this puts a certain amount of pressure that puts a certain amount of time limits on the operation. but where it goes from now, i mean everyone's, you know, the big questionnaire for all this. all the big guns is, what does this go? you know, where does it spreading? so original conflict unit, i'm beginning to worry. i, i sent a new show last week. there was very concerned but missing, you know, who was more than capable of creating a full flag attack to between hezbollah and iran and america. i'm more worried now about blinds be facilities crunch things up since we last spoke. i'm really

concerned now that the situation that we're looking at now is the possibility of america taking as strikes on positions below positions in the south level. this is now very realistic. it's sort of going on between israel has the right now as we speak. it's happening to shinning on both sides, but it's contained and um, i think there is a, there's a run. yes i do. i think from israel in america is marika came in to the conflicts, and america boomed has blood. the iran that has the would take a different view and handle it differently if it were israel doing the same job and i think was all right, but i'm just ready to go down because, you know, i, i think those, those f sixteens and f fifteens which are on the aircraft carrier hasn't come there to shut down. and then we enter a world war 3 scenario and then what do we do? what is fine? and do you notice the probably button is the, you know, a week ago we were saying, i know this was saying these last to most of them both in america, which i think it has completely. but it's only among democrats,

at least he's down 11 percent percent among them because he loves to use writing as well in america because of a lot of his ways as you point out now, you know who don't agree with this. so i think he's isolating himself more and more and he doesn't know where he's going. he doesn't know where this is taking. well well martin, i mean i think it was in, in the summer. george, you have an encyclopedic mine? i'm sure you'll correct me, but jake sullivan, i think it was in foreign affairs or one of the major journal, you know, we have, i'm hearing phrasing here. of the, the middle east now is quite or isn't it has been in decades. there's some grandson . see such a nip with okay, because we does reinforce with martin just said here, these people really don't know what they're doing and they literally are playing with fire because of the way the rhetoric is build up the the palestinians are always the um, the, the, the ones that are doing all the a pressing apparently that is so inverted. okay. and if you aircraft carriers and you've got planes, you're going to play out this narrative. george?

yes, that's right. but it's interesting about that's a jake sullivan. it's a $7000.00 would piece is that is the print edition of foreign affairs has those remarks about. so things are really quiet. you know, we don't, we don't expect any problems with israel and gaza, but the online edition, they took all those woods out because it will be so what was the embarrassing book? oh, it's just a stall and it is after lights would be so proud with my georgia's air brush. so you guys are the sullivan himself, has been the subject of numerous of owning obsequious profiles, likening him to you know, bismark, and mentioned that you are great foreign policy. think up, but this far call is they think and this, but, you know, there's great administration, you know, we much, the is off of back in charge is they've got themselves into, you know, for rustic confrontations of previous administration. so they've managed to avoid,

they've got a very dangerous confrontation, still in ukraine. i mean that's, that's ongoing. that hasn't been the and then the getting those, those is not, this is a quite a dangerous situation in the middle east. and i, i agree, i mean, that's certainly something that could happen. um that, you know, they, they've got these aircraft carrier groups and that, and if you know something, you know what happens, you know, whether it's a full flag attack or whether the spiking, they've been israel in his bow, a intensive, but they will be great pressure on the united states to get more directly involved . and i mean, there, plenty of politicians were actually calling for the united states to get directly involved. you know, we might not have to wait that long. because martin, i mean, considering the united nations organizations that are in, in golf so which i, i have every reason to believe what they say to the world is true. is it business humanitarian? it's not even pending. it's happening, it's happening as we're speaking right now. and i still look at the black players,

the actors like his beloved will say, this is intolerable. we cannot allow this to happen. and it ran will also be a follow ensued in one form or another. so, i mean, there's so many things that are rushing to, you know, to do some breaking point, go ahead more. which particular is from the role of the launch. our country is the arab leaders in the region on how america and the un, i've just completely, and also, they don't equate they don't fixture in any of the natural. they have their opinions and not remote to interesting another the, the i don't from, from ministers recently met. as a woman we floated for 64. and that was just completely, you know, that didn't, that didn't even feature it in, in mainstream credit. so, you know, you're talking about iraq, are you talking about as below, being provoked, possibly into up in the stakes in the region. i think on these ratings don't understand and the americans are underestimated. the role the country is let saudi arabia and catch the play assist can result in the way it goes and they,

they have themselves to blame as well. okay. i mean, what about an error, muslim voice, so you know, they, they, they, they talk a big day, but they haven't been on the side of the palestinians, but now when they're the slaughter and impending genocide against them, i have no choice but to speak. unfortunately, i'm gonna have to jump in here, we're going to go to a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion. i'm going to stay with our team, the

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the let's go back to george it in budapest. and this thing that's happening, you know, i mean we, we, we all watch the, in the israeli ambassador to you when give his speech and we see this a global war on terrorism. 2 point, oh, being played out. so, you know, we, you know, we had a, as long as groups, radical groups. so give, you can put all the monitors on you want, that's fine with me, with her to, for what? almost, 200, gap 20 years. but now the le mazda, are nazis. okay. nothing now, you know, this is net, you know, there, isis. okay, they've never been described that way before. and what they're doing is we're creating, we resurrecting a failed narrative. i would say that because of the level one, terrorism was an utter failure. but that doesn't stop from them, trying to do it again and return it in. and then in that way it, it's a, it's

a narrative that is easily more, easily digestible and coherent. i mean, it's completely wrong, but it's coherent, george, i know you're absolutely right. the, the, because of what is what has been very skillful in doing in the, over the years is to suggest to gifts. um americans, patients that, um, it's actually viable, absolutely essential to the interest so. so just as in the cold war, they managed to full the americans and thinking that you know, where absolutely in the front line of the cold war, you know, you gotta rely on us, you know, we, we, signing up to the soviet expansionism. and so now they have, there's a well as, as we're fighting the global war, ontario, and then immediately in america mines, you know, they have it, but they get tons of switch off. oh yeah. global war on the isis. oh yeah. they have, they have the hatch up as a, you know, goes to, you know, you know, there is, is right, right in the full front of the battle against sizes. but i just simply don't pay

attention. the fact that i'm in the united states, as my kid done anything, it's all about eyes. it's actually a fuel isis over the years and back them the same, same way israel as cooperated with isis in uh in syria. it is very interesting. they want to use this marriage. let me go back to martin here. what do you use this narrative, but you know, we had isis and 31 flavors of care is lubbock tear in in syria. israel never had anything to do about that. they never attack them. as a matter of fact, interesting, lena isis has never attacked israel. ok. so i mean that they want to put him off into that category, which is again, it is a historical and actually kind of a logical, but that is a narrative that western publix, they think western public's a belief, which i think i would, i think is really interesting is something that george has pointed out to me repeatedly, is that we all have watched over the last week or so. all these huge, huge demonstrations in western capitals, but wherever those um,

demonstrations for ukraine, they never happened. okay. go ahead mark. yeah, i mean, you just to think about isis this, the slow, i guess how much is the power rate most people in the west. i know the realize is that during the best part of the war in syria, israel did back i see is israel back to group code on this, right, which is an offshoot devices to fight the said originally provided with weapons. sometimes cash brought it to the hospital hospital, as of course it was just a slice of devices in the cell. so to syria used to travel across the board into israel and get and get medical assistance. so that's, that's one point. but i mean money in the water and using these, these bugs was use of a kind of a technique of confusing people because people in the west just don't really understand what it is they. they see muslims coming and that's enough for them to go to the next day. ready and that bigotry and that racism to kind of pigeonhole these people as, quote, savages, you know, animals, this kind of language,

which is res, because love, that's what they won't, they won't but, and especially filled with that. but again, let me look, i'm about to georgia point, i think i'm, we created this, thomas. i mean, it was, it was a product failed is ready. the policy gone back alone, you know, 20 years in israel pulled out of the strip when in 2005, 2006, you had elections were a homeless 144 percent of the vote because people were tired, they were tired. all the single piece process, you know, the also the cool, it's big, nothing in spots and the p l. o. and so i have something corruption. i'm over, you know, but the idea from that, from yahoo and those are the days was now we need to stall thomas, you know, let's, let's put a seizure out of gaza strip. um, bro, okay, it's a good goods and services can't get in and out. and create this open prism which is in reality is not it for business and open concentration campus. a better way of putting it actually because in prisons you're at least get to leave. and you also get visiting rights and you have access to know who has some of those things,

you know, people to go to the house and, but i think the felt called asleep. now we begin to see it. is it a meal? i do not know of style sitting of this trip hitching almost as a lot like 5. so do we go from one failed policy, which has the american backing back in 2007 to another one. now it seems that we do with nobody. there's no break homeless, there's no, there's no safety catch. there's no, you know, because we're doing the same thing now that we're doing with the plan. we're lowering the delete control and be just controlling douches, like a rush ahead into something which could have regional implications for day, for, for, for years. possibly even decades. what, you know, george, they design is missouri apocalyptic. ok, i mean it, it cannot tolerate any resistance. and on the israel's borders, but they also zionism is all about of social packed within. and so there's a crisis within the country because as you and i have done noted before,

i design as well um should be accepted because it is, it protects jews in it. it's a, it's a, it's a sanctuary. israel's a sanction waiting for jews? well apparently that's not the case anymore. they've, they've gone, they're still going through the shock of what happened on october 7th. that would, that's what makes them they kind of fanatics, they mentioned, you know, it is, and the people that he is surrounded them. so it's all the more dangerous because if it designed this project is going to fail. well, everybody's going to come down with this that's, it's about as ugly. is that george? yeah, that's, that's an absolutely right. and again, it's very interesting because that is true as, as far as the, the west and perceptions are concerned. has kind of played that down. i mean, either the picture and wants to present to the world is that, well, this is some o clock, a little country that he's being set upon by these media terrible, uh, regimes and terrible fanatics in a little running around, you know,

blowing things up. and they just wanna drive the jews to the see the normal that is true. i mean, you know, is 67. they capture the territory is now the way it was sold in the west. all they have the cafeteria just because they need security because otherwise, you know, they'll be in secure. are they going to be driven? the gains will see the territories they capture. well, the territory is that was historic palestine. and that is where laid claim to and that was right from the beginning. they were wiggly, they began building the settlements, you know, immediately, i mean, as soon as they want to juice like this, i would like to stop at the settlement building because a boy's intended fight from the beginning to incorporate that historic power assigned the british mandated power such as greater israel and i so, but as far as you know, the, the with, with the, with the weight was sold in the west. well, they just need security because they need the surgery. otherwise, you know, you've accomplished to be able to, you know, keep this, the, this, the land and, and that's what they've doing. i mean they, they, the building settlement in

a way to ensure that eventually all of this will be great to israel. and um, and the best way to be, you know, look for the west. they don't really, you know, it's like, well, i mean, even when you visit us on the white island bush, which is what i love is radical. i'm, you know, i'm not in favor of the several months as it is online or ratio, you know, like, oh, well, you know, we have differences here in the, you know, our separate ones. okay. well, you know, that's just, you know, we have disagreements that, but they've, it's at the very cords of the very heart of what israel is about is what israel has been doing. and that's not just missing. yeah, we're getting people. so, you know, i don't like nathan, yahoo, but definitely doesn't say that, but something to look a buddy sign doesn't know. i don't like that. and yeah, but, but it's been, the settlements bought us into whole greater is robust as it was began on the labor . i mean, it was labor and they, they saw that there's a new build on both of us. the, you know, the, you know, the martin. no, i don't know. uh when i,

when i heard the term to state solution. shortly after october, 7th i, i, i really didn't know how to react to laugh or 2 before i, because i mean, after everything has been said and done, you know, madrid, oswell, we could go on and on and on about it. and they talk about, you know, the need for a 2 state solution. well, these really have never wanted that they've, this is the ultimate kicking the can down the road. and do been we figuring and refraining the debates and all of this, um, um, you know, we left, we left gods but we left off. so we, you know, we have got to, we didn't know it, but they never talked about how they turned it into a concentration camp is you've said here. so i don't see there's any, any political will, but is paying lip service to a phrase. but it lost meaning decades ago or not, but that may will be the basis for the international career teachers scratch bikes, a few remnants of credibility in the sco gosti if uh you know, um,

even bought in binds and himself talked about off the mouse just defeated you know, we need to create a state for, for, for, for the people of palestine. and i know it's interesting that i'm not seeing any both statements. so any big papers being written by the european union, which is basically just a bystander, you know, standing on the touch line, not even shouting from the touch live just, you know, watching the lease events. this is the new this year ship. oh, we've led to believe was foreign policy um, you know, as, as a gemini, around the world and the blue flags movies, they may be have a lot of assets burned, but they have no conscience appear apparently any more. okay. and that's really prophetic. go ahead. they go to, they go to the default position when anything big happens, we stop talking, we still haven't got meetings. we just felt. ready americans to keep quiet, and that's shameful, absolutely shameful. because we're going to pay for this. we're going to pay for to the opening. the switch hasn't yet arrived in europe. the attempt is that i'm sure was going to arrive, you know, your colleagues, but there's millions of muslims from, from,

from our country is there in belgium or the netherlands. will you kind of for us to just sit by and watch people to be victims of a hot across and that's what's happening. let's start using this look. it is all the colors make no mistakes. that's what in this now who wants to do? i think children actually buying a lot, i don't think that will be in front of it shouldn't be too risky. you know, i mean, maybe nothing i liked, the idea of the advisors are such and all you for pets lose tags. exactly. george and martin, particularly, i mean it's interesting what they did on friday for a day and a half like doing the, the blackout of communications. a george, if they can do it once, they can do it any time they want. okay. just turn off the cameras, turn off the lights. go and do your dirty work. 20 seconds george before we finish . yeah, that's a that's, that's exactly what what they're doing because they also know that essentially the united states is giving them a blank check. and uh, you know, whatever you do find that that's,

that's okay because of book what time of day and how most of the nazis on because anything is justifiable against nazis and, and this is a guy who is what, and that's really the 2 state solution. again, this is the rank of bumper, say among us officials, they've been repeating this study is they don't mean it, but it's a good thing to say, you know, like, you know, well when we support the 2 state solution, we need to stay for the balance and we're not actually going to do anything about it. we're not even going to say gave us the, you know, the 1st step to was get the achieving it. but we'd like to say it because it makes us feel good. it makes it to be ok. monetary impulses. yeah. we'd like you monetary pause because it sounds good. thank you man. i gotta jump in here gentlemen. that's all the time. me. i'm gonna think my guess america, shannon budapest on him. i think i'll be ready for watching us. the advantage. see you next time. remember last night, girls the on the

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