to further isolate rush and sign up by bringing in 3rd party bloss in to a dangerous situation. and the minister also condemned the increase of a potential conflict in the asia pacific with the new creation of the office block, which gives washington a free hand to develop a nuclear submarine station. which of course would be a violation of nuclear proliferation agreements. but again, despite this and washington's pressure on both china and russia, both are expanding its circle of allies. and um, and this is something that's good for the reason. let's have a listen. whether it is because of the serial number of the moscow beijing model of interest state relations can be described as exemplary. at the same time, it is becoming increasingly appealing to others in the circle of friends and like minded nations who refused to be drawn into the confrontational agenda, imposed by the collective west as constantly growing. so ultimately,

shall i do emphasize that conflicts pushed by the west has affected the global geo political stage and that the west needs to respect the national sovereignty, the international security issues and take into account the opinions of both moscow and beijing in this area. so let's a wrap at $531.00 p. m must go time. this monday. do had checkouts out website for more on any of those stories you've just seen. if not, i'll be back again with more instead of 2. thanks so much for watching the the

hello and welcome across stock were all things are considered on peter a little because it is back after going dark and being cut off from the world. israel continues to deny god's everything needed to sustain modern life. in the meantime, the west collectively turns a blind died to the collective punishment, palestinians, the to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, martin j in america. she's an award winning journalist and commentator. and in budapest we cross the george samuel we, he's a pod cast or at the gabble which can be found on youtube and locals. are gentlemen cross up rules and the fact that he's gonna jump anytime you want, and i would appreciate it. okay, so let's go to america. so much is happening. it's happening so fast as well. we had a for about a day and a half we. it appeared that um,

well in fact it did happen cause it went black. um no outside contact as we speak right now. there contacts with the internet and other communications is being restored slowly. um that, um, i suppose the biggest thing that's going on right now in my mind is how the collective west is decided to collectively turn. it's back on palestinian suffering, and it's really just breathtaking because, you know, we were, we all 3 in our viewers were very skeptical mock this whole idea of green space to order. i guess we don't really have to market anymore because it's not a clickable in any, any world, any universe right now. go ahead mark. yeah, and it reminds us really, sadly, who is really in charge of the so called institutions that could hold america as well to account. you know, um the i c. c in the hague or, i mean it makes a huge mockery. i think. awesome. um and um do you and where was the un helping to

you and possibly hold his head high in this international environment i'm, i'm preached tomorrow. attention is to the rest of the world when united unless is real do this. i mean, i would, i would also do you would, must do something with this is what it must sort of suspend them or make some sort of statement some, some sort of token gesture, you know, but, you know, the, the american americans calling the shots and i'm very skeptical, i'm very, very skeptical about this into the electricity blackout. you know, to me that just smacks of, i'm not allowing social media content to be distributing ubiquitously who is the human race covering up for crying. so let's say covering that work. let me go to georgia, not only covering up more crimes, but something you and i've talked about ad nauseam georgias that of the is really the idea of does not want the world to see how it fight. so i would kills and how it may be, it is an x and we as we were convening last week,

martin pointed out that in terms of infantry, israel is not the best. it's shown itself to be quite weak here. um and then we have content, you know, going from topic to topic very quickly and it's really flag is being planted in the small part of the, of ga. so here is some kind of symbolism here. um, but you know, wanting to control the message by not allowing any come to it. that's quite interesting, isn't it george? as well as trying to come. but nonetheless, it's already clear that the, the message coming out of gaza is a, is a quite shocking one. and we've seen a massive protest and some lots of euro, but we had a massive processed in london yesterday. we even had a massive protest in new york city. um and uh it is clear that some of israel and it is back up chief back of the united states are really kind of

a global minority. now, what's really a much of really in the last 48 house is there isn't going to be this massive invasion. let me mention the apple moralist submitted that the, this easing cushions that we've been seeing. it's kind of cool that we're going to get the, the, the that is or just doesn't have the will to go in and, and it's no fight man to man, as we discussed before. and, but instead he would just simply go on inflicting of these uh casualties. um, now the way the united states is, uh, responded is quite shocking in any ways that it is never responded. you know, in a similar way in the past, i mean, even though you know, some of the really was a trust that is, that is where they've committed such as the invasion 11 and 1982. i mean, it's now outright of persecuting organizations that express any

sympathy for the palestinians. so we have to go to the wrong. the science is boasting that he is just simply by the student group appropriate a study as you look at what is what is the basis by 6 of the pro. and then you have these republican presidential candidates, including trunk, incidentally, who showed up at this republican jewish coalition just simply blindly say, well, anti semitism is the same is uh and design is a, as you send it to is on has no place in america. therefore, we need to a band if need to band any organization. but his hesitating on behalf of about of cindy. oh it's, it's really quite interesting. i'm glad you brought up the protest and that's the point out that the, the u. k. upstate and at the united nations, which shows absolute power does on their part and it shows that they're terrified of their own people. ok. but which was really interesting to both of you over all

the direct is the market, is that um, there are a number of large jewish groups all through europe and the united states saying israel does not speak for me. design is and isn't a synonymous would be jewish to people. these people are pushing back because obviously they don't and not in my name is their message here. and that's pulling people out as well. but it shows martin, the isolation of so many governments in the west, no solution i most of the limited time, i would say how much longer this situation carry on. because unlike you can, will you have a huge contingency of people in london. for example. i mean, the estimations were 500000 on the street unit. it's gonna be very difficult for the government. and for cool center general is to keep homeless now to when they'll just surrounded by so many people on social media questioning it. so i think this, that puts a certain amount of pressure that puts a certain amount of time limits on the operation. but where it goes from now,

i mean, everyone's, you know, the big question now for all this, all the big guns is, what does this go? you know, where does it spreading? so original conflict unit, i'm beginning to worry i, i sent a new show last week that was very concerned, but missing, you know, who was more than capable of creating a full flag attack to between hezbollah and iran and america. i'm more worried now about brighton's be so he's chronic things up since we last spoke. i'm really concerned now that the situation that we're looking at now is the possibility of america taking as strikes on positions below positions himself and level. this is now very realistic. it's sort of going on between israel has the right now as we speak. it's happening the shooting on both sides, but it's contained and um, i think there is a, there's a run. yes i do. i think from israel in america is marika came in to the conflicts and america found has blood. the iran that has the would take

a different view and handle it right differently if it were israel doing the same job and i think was all right, but i'm just ready to go down because like, you know, i, i think those, those f sixteens and fifteens which are on the aircraft carrier hasn't come there to shut down. and then we enter a world war 3 scenario. and then what do we do? what does 5 do you notice the probably button is the, you know, a week ago we were saying, i noticed was saying he's lost the most the most in america, which i think it has completely. but the amount of democrats, at least he's down 11 percent percent among them. perfect. what questions does he loves to use writing as well in america? because of a lot of his ways as you point out now, you know who don't agree with this. so i think he's isolating himself more and more and he doesn't know where he's going. he doesn't know where this is taking. well well martin, i mean i think it was in, in the summer. george, you have an encyclopedic mine? i'm sure you'll correct me, but jake sullivan, i think it was in foreign affairs. and one of the major journal, you know, we have

a, it's a, i'm here appraising here of the, the middle east now is quite or isn't it has been in decades. there's some good on sense the such a nipple with okay, because we does reinforcement. martin just said here, these people really don't know what they're doing. and they literally are playing with fire because of the way the rhetoric is build up. the palestinians are always the um, the, the, the ones that are doing all the a pressing apparently they the so inverted. okay. and if you aircraft carriers and you got planes, you're going to play out this narrative. george? yes, that's right. what's interesting about that's a jake sullivan, it's a $7000.00 would piece is that is the print edition of foreign affairs has those remarks about. so things are really quiet. you know, we don't, we don't expect any problems with israel and gaza, but the online edition, they took all those woods out because this get the, it will be. so what was the embarrassing book? oh, it's just a stall and it is after lights would be so proud with my george's air brush. so you

guys are the sullivan himself, has been the subject of numerous of owning obsequious pro, likening him to in a bismark in the mess. any great foreign policy think up, but this far call is they think on this, but, you know, there's great administration, you know, we much, the is off of back in charge is they've got themselves into, you know, for rustic confrontations of previous administration. so they've managed to avoid, they've got a very dangerous confrontation, still in ukraine. i mean that's, that's ongoing. that hasn't been the and then the getting those, those is not, this is a quite a dangerous situation in the middle east. and, and i, and i, i agree, i mean, that's certainly something that could happen. um that, you know, they, they've got these aircraft carrier groups and that, and if you know something, you know what happens, you know, whether it's a full flag attack or whether the spiking between israel and his bow

a intensive. but they will be great pressure on the united states to get more directly involved. and i mean, there are plenty of foundations were actually calling for the united states to get directly involved. you know, we might not have to wait that long because martin, i mean, considering the united nations organizations that are in, in golf so which i, i have every reason to believe what they say to the world is true. is it business humanitarian? it's not even pending, it's happening, it's happening as we're speaking right now. and i still look at the black players, the actors like his blog will say, this is intolerable. we cannot allow this to happen and it ran will also be a follow ensued in one form or another. so, i mean, there's so many things that are rushing to, you know, to do some breaking point, go ahead more. which particular is from the role of the launch, our country is the arab leaders in the region on how america and the un i've just

completely. and also they don't equate. they don't feature in any of the natural they that are opinions and not remote to interesting another the, the i don't know from, from ministers recently met. as a woman, there's lots of listings for and that was just completely, you know, that didn't, that didn't even feature it in, in mainstream credit. so, you know, you're talking about iraq, you're talking about hezbollah being provoked, possibly into up in the stakes in the region. i think on these ratings don't understand and the americans have underestimated the role, the countries less saudi arabia and cut uh will play, assist, can result in the way it goes and they, they have themselves to blame as well. okay. i mean, what about an air of muslim voice? so you know, they, they, they, they talk a big day, but they haven't been on the side of the palestinians, but now when they're the slaughter and impending genocide against them, i have no choice but to speak. unfortunately, i'm gonna have to jump in here, we're going to go to a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion. i'm going to stay with our team, the

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the the, the stuff were, all things are considered. and peter was, well, this is the home initially to remind you were discussing palestine the let's go back to georgia in budapest. and the thing that's happening, you know, i mean we, we, and we all watch the, in the israeli ambassador to you when give his speech and we see this a global war on terrorism. 2 point, oh, being played out. so, you know, we, you know, we had a, as long as groups, radical groups. so give, you can put all the monitors on you want, that's fine with me, with her to, for what? almost 200, gap 20 years. but now the la mazda,

are nazis. okay. nothing now, you know, this is net, you know, there, isis. okay, they've never been described that way before. and what they're doing is we're creating, we resurrecting a failed narrative. i would say that because of the level one, terrorism was an utter failure. but that doesn't stop from them, trying to do it again and return it in. and then in that way it, it's a, it's a narrative that is easily more easily digestible and coherent. i mean, it's completely wrong, but it's coherent. george. hey, you're absolutely right. the, the because what is what has been very skillful in doing in the, over the years is to suggest to get the americans patients that it's actually viable, absolutely essential to the interest. so. so just as in the cold war, they managed to full the americans and thinking that, you know, weird, absolutely. in the front line of the cold war, you know, you gotta rely on us, you know, we, we,

signing up to the soviet expansionism. and so now they have to show, well as, as we're fighting the global war, ontario, and then immediately in america mines, you know, they have it, but they get tons of switch off. oh yeah, global war on the ice is going to they have they have the hatch up as a you know, goes to, you know, you know, there is, is right, right in the full front of the battle against sizes. but i just simply don't pay attention. the fact that i'm in the united states has much of done anything. it's all about eyes. it's actually a fuel isis over the years. and in fact, the same, same way israel as cooperated with isis in uh in syria. it is very interesting. they want to use this marriage. let me go back to martin here. what do you use this narrative? but you know, we had isis and 31 flavors of care is lumnick tear in and syria. israel never had anything to do about that. they never attack them. as a matter of fact, interesting, lena isis has never attacked israel. ok. so i mean that they want to put him off

into that category, which is again, it is a historical and actually kind of a logical, but that is a narrative that western publix, they think western public's a belief, which i think i would, i think is really interesting is something that george has pointed out to me repeatedly, is that we all have watched over the last week or so. all these huge, huge demonstrations in western capital's. but where were those demonstrations for ukraine? they never happened. okay, go ahead ma'am. yeah, i mean, you just, the thing about us, is this the slow, i guess how much is the power rate most people in the west, i know, don't realize is that during the best part of the war in syria, israel did back i see is israel back to group code on this, right, which is an offshoot devices to fight the said originally provided with weapons. sometimes cash provided to the hospital hospital. as of course, it was just for 5 devices in the cell. so to syria used to travel across the board into israel and get and get some medical assistance. so that's,

that's one point. but i mean money in the water and using these, these bugs was use of a kind of technique of confusing people because people in the west just don't really understand what it is they. they see muslims killing and that's enough for them to go to the next day. ready and that bigotry and that racism to kind of pigeonhole these people as, quote, savages, you know, animals, this kind of language with these radius because love, that's what they won't, they won't, but when they're supposed to be filled with that. but again, let me look going back to georgia point, i think i'm, we created this time of start. i mean, it was, it was a product failed is really policy gone back alone. you know, 20 as a israel pulled out of the strip when in 2005, 2006, you had elections were a homeless 144 percent of the vote because people were tired. they were tired. all the single piece process. you know, they also cool with big nothing in spots and the p l o on. so i have something corruption. i'm over, you know, but the idea from that, from yahoo and those are the days was now we need to stall thomas. you know, let's,

let's put a seizure out of gaza strip. i'm bro. okay, it's a good goods and services can't get in and out. and create this open prism which is in reality is not it for business. i'm open, i'm concentration campus, a better way of putting it actually because in prisons you're at least get to leave . and you also get visiting rights and you have access to low as some of those things, you know, people to go to the house. and, but i think the felt called a sick. now we begin to see it. is it a meal? i do not know of style thing on this trip. hitting almost a lot by 5. so do we go from one failed policy, which has the american backing back in 2007 to another one? now it seems that we do with nobody. there's no break homeless. there's no, there's no safety catch. there's no, you know, because we're doing the same thing now that we're doing with the print, we're lowering the delete control and be able to control douches, like a rush ahead into something which could have regional implications for the day for, for, for years. possibly even decades. what, you know,

george name design is missouri apocalyptic. ok, i mean it, it cannot tolerate any resistance and on the israel's borders, but they also zionism is all about of social packed within. and so there's a crisis within the country because as you and i have done noted before, um um design is um, well um should be accepted because it is, it protects jews in and it's a, it's, it's a sanctuary. israel's a sanctuary for to his well, apparently that's not the case anymore. they've, they've gone, they're still going through the shock of what happened on october 7th. that what, that's what makes them the kind of a fanatics that emits in, you know, it is, and the people that he is surrounded them. so it's all the more dangerous because if it designed this project is going to fail. well, everybody's got to come down with a so that's it's about as ugly. is that george? you know, that that's an absolutely right. and again, it's very interesting because i'm this real as, as far as the,

the west and perceptions are concerned has kind of played that down. i mean, either the picture and wants to present to the world is that, well, this is some bull plucky little country that he's being set upon by these really terrible uh, regimes and terrible fanatics in a little running around, you know, blowing things up. and they just wanna drive the jews to the see the normal that is true. i mean, you know, doing is 67. they capture the territory is now the way it was sold and the was all they have the comforters because they need security because otherwise, you know, they'll be in secure. are they going to be driven? the gains will see the territories they capture. well, the territory is that was historic palestine, and that is where laid claim to and that was right from the beginning. they were wiggly, they began building the settlements, you know, immediately, i mean, as soon as they want to do 67, they've to stop at the settlement building because

a boy's intended fight from the beginning to incorporate that historic power assigned the british monday to bowers. but as greater israel and that we have so, but as far as you know, the, the, with the, with the weight was sold in the west. well, they just need security because they need this terra tre otherwise, you know, you'd like comp also be able to, you know, keep this, the, this, the land and, and that's what they've doing. i mean they, they, the building settlements in a way to ensure that eventually all of this will be great to israel. and i suppose to be, you know, look for the west. they don't really, you know, they bought me even when you visit us on the white island bush, which is what i love is road. i'm, you know, i'm not in favor of the several months as it is online or ratio. you know, like, oh, well, you know, we have differences here in the, you know, our cellphones, okay. well, you know, that's just, you know, we have disagreements that, but they've, it's at the very cords of the very heart of what israel is about is like israel has been doing. and that's not just missing the out or getting people. so, you know, i don't like nathan, yahoo about dustin's doesn't say that, but somewhat a body sign does it?

oh, i don't like that and yeah, but, but it's been the settlements bought us into whole greater is robust with began on the labor. i mean, it was labor and they, they saw that there's a new build on both of us. the, you know, the, you know, the martin. no, i don't know. uh when i, when i heard the term to states solution. uh, shortly after october 7th i, i really didn't know how to react to laugh or to try. because i mean, after everything has been said and done, you know, madrid oswell, we could go on and on and on about it. and they talk about, you know, the need for a 2 state solution. well, these really have never wanted that, that this is the ultimate kicking the can down the road. and do been we figuring and refraining the debates and all of this, um, um, you know, we left, we left god but we left, god forbid, you know, we've got to, we didn't know it, but they never talked about how they turned it into a concentration camp. is you've said here, so i don't see there's any,

any political will, but is paying lip service to a phrase that it lost meaning decades ago or not. but that may will be the basis for the international career teachers scratch bikes. a few remnants of credibility in the sco gosti if uh you know, um, even bothered and binds and himself talked about off the mouse just defeated. you know, we need to create a state for, for, for, for the people of palestine. and i know it's interesting that i'm not seeing any both statements. so any big papers being written by the european union, which is basically just a bystander, you know, standing on the touch line, not even shouting from the touch live just, you know, watching movies events. this is the new this year ship. oh, we've led to believe was foreign policy. um you know, as, as a gemini, around the world in a blue flags that they maybe have a lot of assets burned, but they have no conscience appear apparently any more. okay. and that's really prophetic, go ahead, they go to,

they go to the default position when anything big happens is we stop talking. we still haven't got meetings we just for. ready americans to keep quiet, you know, and that's shameful, absolutely shameful. because we're going to pay for this. we're going to pay for, or the ugliness which hasn't yet arrived in europe. the attempt is, i'm sure was going to arrive, you know, your colleagues, but there's millions of muslims from, from, from our country is there in belgium or another. and some of you came across to just sit by and watch people to be victims of a hot across. and that's what's happening. let's start using this look. it is all the colors make no mistakes. that's what and us now who wants to do? i think children actually bang on, i don't think that will be in front of it shouldn't be too risky. you know, i mean, may be missing. i like the idea of the advisors are such and i'll you for pets, lose tags. exactly. george and martin, particularly, i mean it's interesting what they did on friday for a day and a half like doing the, the blackout of communications. a george, if they can do it once,

they can do it any time they want. okay. just turn off the cameras, turn off the lights. go and do your dirty work. 20 seconds george before we finish . yeah, that's a that's, that's exactly what what they're doing because they also know that essentially the united states is giving them a blank check. and uh, you know, whatever you do find that that's, that's okay because of the quote from us that i'm also the nazis on because anything is justifiable against nazis. and, and this is again, who is what, and that's really the 2 state solution. again, this is the rank of bumper, say among us officials, they've been repeating this study is they don't mean it, but it's a good thing to say, you know, like, you know, well when we support the 2 state solution, we need to stay for the balance and we're not actually going to do anything about it. we're not even going to say give us the, you know, the 1st step and we'll get the achieving it. but we like to say it because it makes us feel good. it makes it to be ok. monetary impulses. yeah. we like you monetary and was because it sounds good. thank you man. i gotta jump in here gentlemen. that's all the time. me. i'm gonna think my guess america,

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