the hello and welcome across stock. were all things are considered on peter a little because it is back after going dark and being cut off from the world. israel continues to deny god's everything needed to sustain modern life. in the meantime, the west collectively turns a blind died to the collective punishment, palestinians, the discuss these issues and more. i'm joined by my guess, martin j in america. she's an award winning journalist and commentator. and in budapest we cross the george samuel we. he's a pod cast or at the gabble which can be found on youtube and locals, or gentleman cross up rules and the fact that you can jump anytime you want. and i would appreciate it. okay, so let's go to america. so, so much is happening. it's happening so fast as well. we had a for about a day and a half we. it appeared that um,

well in fact it did happen cause it went blocked. um, no outside contact as we speak right now. there contacts with the internet and other communications is being restored slowly that um, i suppose the biggest thing that's going on right now in my mind is how the collective west is decided to collectively turn its back on palestinian suffering. and it's really dis breathtaking because, you know, we were, we all 3 in our viewers were very skeptical and mocked this whole idea of green space to order. i guess we don't really have to market anymore because it's not a clickable in any, any world, any universe right now. go ahead mark. and it reminds us really, sadly, who is really in charge of the so called institutions that could hold america as relative account. you know the i c, c in the home. ready or, i mean, it makes issues. mccray, i think also i'm, i'm and um do you and where is do you and how come to you and possibly hold his

head high in this international environment? i'm, i'm preached i'm or what changes to the rest of the world when united, unless is real do this? i mean, i would, i would also do you in must do something with this is what it must sort of suspend them or make some sort of statement some, some sort of token gesture, you know, but, you know, the, the american americans calling the shots and i'm very skeptical, i'm very, very skeptical about this into the electricity blackouts. you know, to me that just smacks of, i'm not allowing social media content to be distributing ubiquitously who is the human race covering up for crying. so let's say covering that won't work. let me go to george here, not only covering up more crimes, but it's something you and i have talked about ad nauseam, georgias, that of the israeli. the idea of does not want the world to see how it fight, so it kills and how it may be. it is an x we as we were convening last week,

martin pointed out that the in terms of infantry is really, is not the best. it's found itself to be quite weak here. um and then we have going to, you know, going from topic to topic very quickly. and it's really flag is being planted in the small part of the, of gauzy here is some kind of symbolism here. um, but you know, wanting to control the message by not allowing any come to with this quite interesting, isn't it, george? well let's try that. um, but nonetheless, it's already clear that the, the message coming out of gaza is a, is a quite shocking one. and we've seen a massive protest and some lots of euro, but we had a massive processed in london yesterday. we even had a massive protest in new york city. um and uh it is clear that some of israel and is back up chief back of the united states are really kind of

a global minority. now, what's really a much of really in the last 48 house is there isn't going to be this massive invasion. let me mention the apple moralist submitted that the, this easing cushions that we've been seeing, it's kind of walk over. we're going to get the, the, the that is, or just doesn't have, will to go in and, and, you know, fight man to man as we discussed before. and, but instead he would just simply go on inflicting of these uh casualties. um, now the way the united states is, uh, responded is quite shocking in any ways that it is never respond to, you know, in a similar way in the past. i mean, even that, you know, some of the really was a trust that is, that is relative, committed such as the invasion 11 and 1982. i mean it's now outright

persecuting organizations that express any sympathy for the palestinians. so we have to go with the wrong the science is boasting that he is just simply by the student group appropriate a study as you look at what is what is the basis salacious of the pro. and then you have these republican presidential candidates including trunk, incidentally, who showed up at this republican jewish coalition, just simply blandly say, well, anti semitism is the same as a as a zine is a, as the semitism has no place in america. therefore, we need to a band if need a band any organization, but his complicating on behalf of about a city. so it's, it's really quite interesting. i'm glad you brought up the protest and that's the point out that the, the u. k. upstate and at the united nations, which shows absolute power does on their part and it shows that they're terrified of their own people. ok,

but which was really interesting to both of you over all the direct is the market, is that there are a number of large jewish groups all through europe and the united states. thing israel does not speak for me. design is and isn't a synonymous would be jewish to people. these people are pushing back because obviously they don't, we not in my name is their message here. and that's pulling people out as well. but it shows martin b, i selection of so many governments in the west, no solution i most of the limited time, i would say how much longer the situation carried on. because unlike you can, will you have a huge contingency of people in london. for example, i mean the estimations were 500000 on the street unit. it's gonna be very difficult for the government. and for cool center general is to keep homeless now to when they'll just surrounded by so many people on social media questioning it. so i think this, that puts a certain amount of pressure that puts a certain amount of time limits on the operation. but where it goes from now,

i mean, everyone's, you know, the big question now for all this, all the big guns is, what does this go? you know, where does it split into original conflict unit? i'm beginning to worry i, i sent a new show last week that was very concerned that nothing, you know, who was more than capable of creating a full flag attack to between hezbollah and iran and america. i'm more worried now about blinds be so he's chronic things up since we last spoke. i'm really concerned now that the situation that we're looking at now is the possibility of america taking as strikes on positions below positions himself and level. this is now very realistic. it's sort of going on between israel has the right now as we speak. it's happening the shooting on both sides, but it's contained and um, i think there is a, there's a run. yes i do. i think from israel and america is marika came in to the conflicts . america boned has blood. the iran that has the would take

a different view and handle it right differently if it was israel doing the same job and i think was all right, but i'm just ready to go down because like, you know, i, i think those, those f sixteens now 15 which are on the aircraft carrier hasn't come there to shut down. and then we enter a world war 3 scenario and then what do we do? what does bible do? you notice the probably button is the, you know, a week ago we were saying i noticed was saying he's lost the most the most in america, which i think it has completely. but i think among democrats, at least, he's down 11 percent percent among dental questions that he loves to use writing about as well in america because of a lot of his ways as you point out now, you know who don't agree with this. so i think he's isolating himself more and more and he doesn't know where he's going. he doesn't know where this is taking. well well martin, i mean i think it was in, in the summer. george, you have an encyclopedic mine? i'm sure you'll correct me, but jake sullivan, i think it was in foreign affairs. and one of the major journal, you know, we have

a, it's a, i'm hearing phrasing here of the, the middle east now is quite or isn't it has been in decades. there's some grandson, see such a nipple with okay, because we does reinforce with martin just said here, these people really don't know what they're doing and they literally are playing with fire because of the way the rhetoric is build up. the palestinians are always the um, the, the, the ones that are doing all the a pressing apparently they the so inverted. okay. and if you aircraft carriers and you got planes, you're going to play out this narrative. george? yes, that's right. what's interesting about that's a jake sullivan, it's a $7000.00 would piece is that is the print edition of foreign affairs has those remarks about. so things are really quiet. you know, we don't, we don't expect any problems with israel and gaza, but the online edition, they took all those woods out because it will be so obviously embarrassing. but oh, it's just a stall and it is after lights would be so proud with my george just air brush. so

you guys are solving himself, has been the subject of numerous of owning obsequious profiles, likening him to in a bismark, and mentioned that you are great foreign policy. think up because this far goal is they think on this, but, you know, there's great administration, you know, we much the is off of back in charge is they've got themselves into, you know, for rustic confrontations of previous administrations have managed to avoid. they've got a very dangerous confrontation, still in ukraine. i mean that's, that's on doing that hasn't been the and then the getting those, those is not, this is a quite a dangerous situation in the middle east. and, and i and i, i agree. i mean, that's certainly something that could happen um that, you know, they, they've got these aircraft carrier groups and that, and if you know something happens, you know, whether it's a full flag attack or whether the spiking, they've been israel in his bow,

a intensive plant. they will be great pressure on the united states to get more directly involved. and i mean, there are plenty of politicians for actually calling for the united states to get directly involved. you know, we might not have to wait that long because martin, i mean, considering the united nations organizations that are in, in golf so which i, i have every reason to believe what they say to the world is true. is it business humanitarian? it's not even pending, it's happening, it's happening as we're speaking right now. and i still look at the bluff players, the actors like his blog and we'll say this is intolerable. we cannot allow this to happen and if it ran well, um, also be a follow ensued in one form or another. so, i mean, there's so many things that are rushing to, you know, to do some breaking point, go ahead more and what's particular is from the role of the launch, our country is the arab leaders in the region on how america and the un,

i've just completely and also they don't equate, they don't feature in any of the, not you, they are that their opinions and not remote to interesting another the, the, i don't know from, from ministers recently matched as a, when we floated for 64. and that was just completely, you know, that didn't, that didn't even fix you already. and in mainstream credit, so, you know, you're talking about iran, or you're talking about hezbollah being provoked, possibly into up in the stakes in the region. i think on these ratings don't understand and the americans are underestimated the role, the countries like saudi arabia and cats will play, assist, can result in the way it goes and they, they have themselves to blame as well. okay. i mean, what about an error, muslim voice? well, you know, they, they, they, they talk a big day, but they haven't been on the side of the palestinians, but now when they're the slaughter and impending genocide against them, i have no choice but to speak. unfortunately, i'm going to have to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion. i'm going to stay with our to the

details and there wasn't any confusion inside. they say the community, you don't want to be up to the 7. ok, the part of the unit, the government, or the same as the government. but this would be the what they want is gonna take them to solve this from their side. nobody is to read the we'd be finishing with come us because you know, the total is the aggressive today. i'm authorized is additional strong sanctions today

. russian was the country with the most sanctions imposed against it. a number that's constantly growing, but i think you chose the probably almost a couple seniors is pick on the most, the more in the will ship, preventing all important show of russian oil and gas in energy for another country. hope all's well. we're going to reset the fed service involved, the little joe bites in, imposing these sanctions on russia has destroyed the american economy. so there's a boomerang the the prospect for all things are considered. and peter was available as the home initially to remind you were discussing palestine the

let's go back to georgia in budapest. and the thing that's happening, you know, i mean then we, we, and we all watch the, in the israeli ambassador to you when give his speech and we see this a global war on terrorism. 2 point, oh, being played out. so, you know, we, you know, we had, as well, ms groups, radical groups. so you can put all the gum monitors on you want, it's fine with me with her to, for what? almost 20 of, yeah, 20 years. but no big deal. the mazda are nazis. okay. nothing down, you know, this is not, you know, there, isis. okay. um, they've never been described that way before. and what they're doing is with creating we regular resurrecting a failed narrative. i would say that because of the global war on terrorism was an utter failure. but that doesn't stop from them, trying to do it again and ritual in, in, in, in that way it, it's a, it's a narrative that is easily more, easily digestible and coherent. i mean,

it's completely wrong, but it's coherent. george, i know you're absolutely right. the, the because what is what has been very skillful in doing in the, over the years is to suggest to get the americans patients that it's actually viable, absolutely essential to the interest so. so just as in the cold war, they manage the full, the americans and thinking the, you know, weird, absolutely. in the front line of the cold war, you know, you got to rely on us, you know, we, we, signing up to the soviet expansionism. and so now they have to show, well as, as we're fighting the global war, ontario, and then immediately in america mines, you know, they have it, but they get tons of switch off. oh yeah. global war on the ice is, oh yeah, they have, they have the hatch up as a you know, goes to, you know, you know, there is, is right, right in the full front of the battle against sizes. but i just simply don't pay attention to fact that i'm in the united states as much of done anything. it's all

about eyes. it's actually a fuel isis over the years. and in fact, the same, same way israel as cooperated with isis in uh, in serious it is very interesting. they want to use this marriage. let me go back to martin here wanting to use this narrative. but you know, we had isis and 31 flavors of care islamic terror in and syria. israel never had anything to do about that. they never attack them. as a matter of fact, the interesting lena isis has never attacked israel. ok. so i mean that they want to put him off to that category, which is again, it is a historical and actually kind of a logical, but that is a narrative. that western publix, they think western public so believe which i think i would, i think is really interesting is something that george has pointed out to me repeatedly, is that we all have watched over the last week or so. all these huge, huge demonstrations in western capitals, but wherever those um, demonstrations for ukraine, they never happened. okay. go ahead. my. yeah, i mean,

you just, the thing about us, is this the slow, i guess how much is the power rate? most people in the west i know didn't realize is that during the best part of the war in syria, israel did back i see is israel back to group go down this route, which is an offshoot devices to flight? the said originally provided with weapons, sometimes cash brought it to the hospital was hosp the hospital. as of course it was just real size boxes and the sausage to syria used to travel across the board into israel and get and get some medical assistance. so that's, that's one point, but i mean, money in the water, i'm using these, these suppose was use of a kind of technique of confusing good because people in the west just don't really understand what it is they, they see most lens killing. and that's enough for them to go to the next day. ready and that bigotry and the racism to kind of pigeonhole these people as, quote, savages, you know, animals, this kind of language with these radius because love, that's what they won't, they won't but, and they're supposed to be filled with that. but again,

let me look going back to georgia point, i think i'm, we created this time of start. i mean, it was, it was a product failed is really policy gone back alone, you know, 20 years or israel pulled out of the strip when in 2005, 2006, you had elections were a homeless 144 percent of the vote. because people were tired, they were tired, all the single piece process. you know, they also cool with big nothing in spots and the p l. o. and so i have some incorruption, i'm over, you know, but the idea from netanyahu and those are the days was now we need to stall thomas, you know, let's, let's put a seizure out because the strip um bro. okay, so good, good. some services, concrete in and out, and create this open prism which is in reality is not it for business. i'm open concentration campus a better way of putting it actually because in prisons you're at least get to leave . and you also get visiting rights and you have access to know here's some of those things you know, people to go to don't have that. and but i think the file called a sick. now we begin to see it. is it a meal?

i do not know of stuffing on this trip, hitching almost as a lot like 5. so do we go from one failed policy, which has the american backing back in 2007 to another one. now it seems that we do with nobody. there's no break. homeless there's no, there's no safety catch, there's no, you know, because we're doing the same thing now that we're doing with the print, we're allowing them to delete control and be able to control douches, go rush ahead into something which could have regional implications for the day for, for, for years possibly even decades. what, you know, george, they design is missouri apocalyptic. ok, i mean, it, it cannot tolerate any resistance and on the israel's borders, but they also zionism is all about of social packed within. and so there's a crisis within the country because as you and i have done noted before, i design as well um should be accepted because it is, it protects jews in and it's

a, it's, it's a sanctuary. is realtor sanctuary for to as well. apparently that's not the case anymore. they've, they've gone, they're still going through the shock of what happened on october 7th. that would, that's what makes them the kind of fanatics that nothing you know, is, and the people that he is surrounded them. so it's all the more dangerous, because if, if design is project is going to fail, well, everybody's gonna come down with us. that's what it's about as ugly. is that george? you know, that that's absolutely right. and again, it's very interesting because them israel, as, as far as the, the west and perceptions are concerned, has kind of played that down. i mean, in the picture it wants to present to the world is that, well, this is some bull plucky little country that he's being set upon by these really terrible uh, regimes and terrible fanatics in old running around, you know, blowing things up. and they just wanna drive it the jews to the see the normal that

is true. i mean, you know, is 67. they capture the territory is now the way it was sold and the was all, they have the comforters because they need security because otherwise, you know, they'll be in secure, they're gonna be driven in gainesville, 6 of the territories they capture. well, the territory is that was historic palestine, and that is where laid claim to and that was right from the beginning. they were wiggly, they began building the settlements, you know, immediately. i mean, as soon as they want to jews like this, i would like to stop at the settlement building because i always intended i from the beginning to incorporate that historic palestine of the british monday to bowers. but as greater is ro and i so, but as far as you know, the, the, with the, with the weight was sold in the west. well, they just need security because they need the surgery. otherwise, you know, you'd like comp us to be able to, you know, keep this the, this, the land and, and that's what they've doing. i mean they, they, the building supplements in a way to ensure that eventually all of this will be great to israel. and um,

and the best way to be, you know, look for the west. they don't really, you know, like let me even when you visit us on the white island bush, which is what i love is radical. i'm, you know, i'm not in favor of the several months as it is online or ratio, you know, like, oh, well, you know, we have differences here in the, you know, our separate ones. okay. well, you know, that's just, you know, we have disagreements that, but they've, it's at the very cords of the very heart of what israel is about is what israel has been doing. and that's not just missing. yeah, we're getting people. so, you know, i don't like nathan, yahoo about dustin's doesn't say that, but something to look a body sign does it? oh, i don't like it and yeah, that's, but it's been the settlements bought us in the whole greater is robot. as it was began on the labor, i mean it was labor and they, they saw that there's a new build on both of us. the, you know, the, you know, the martin, i don't know. uh when i, when i heard the term to states solution. shortly after october, 7th i, i really didn't know how to react to laugh or 2 before i, because i mean,

after everything has been said and done and you know, madrid oswell, we can go on and on and on about it. and they talk about, you know, the need for a 2 state solution. well, these really have never wanted that, that this is the ultimate kicking the can down the road. and do been we figuring and refraining the debates and all of this, um, um, you know, we left, we left god so we left god to be you know, we have got to, we didn't know it, but they never talked about how they turned it into a concentration camp is you've said here, so i don't see there's any, any political will, but is paying lip service to a phrase, but it lost meaning decades ago or not. but that may will be the basis for the international 3 and teachers scratch bikes. a few remnants of credibility in the sco gosti if uh, you know, even bought in binds and himself talked about off to assist defeated. you know, we need to create a state for, for, for, for the people in palestine. and,

you know, it's interesting that's, i'm not seeing any those statements. so any big papers being written by europe and union, which is basically just a bystander, you know, standing on the touch line, not even shouting from the touch live just, you know, watching the lease events. this is the new this year to ship. oh, we've led to believe it was foreign policy um you know, as, as a gemini, around the world and the blue flags movies, they maybe have a lot of assets burnt, but they have no conscience apparently, apparently anymore. okay. and that's really bad and go ahead. they go to, they go to the default position when anything big happens is we stop talking. we still having our meetings we just for. ready americans to keep quiet, and that's shameful, absolutely, shame for because we're going to pay for this. we're going to pay for of the ugliness which hasn't yet arrived in europe. the item does that, i'm sure was going to arrive, you know, your colleagues, but there's millions of muslims from, from, from our country. is there in belgium. other than that, the rooms when you kind of friends, just sit by and watch people to be victims of

a hot across. and that's what's happening. let's start using this look. it is all the colors make no mistakes. that's what and that's now who wants to do? i think joe, does that feedback on? i don't think that will be in front of it. shouldn't, i think is too risky. you know, i mean, may be missing. i like the idea of the advisors are set to and are you prepared to lose tags or the generally george and martin, particularly if it's interesting what they did on friday, i for a day and a half like doing the, the blackout of communications. george, if they can do it once, they can do it any time they want. okay. just turn off the cameras. turn off the lights. go and do your dirty work. 20 seconds george before we finish. yeah, that's it. that's. that's exactly what what they're doing because they also know that essentially the united states is giving them a blank check. and uh, you know, whatever you do find that that's, that's okay because of the time of day and i'm also denazi's, i'm a goes, anything is justifiable, again synopsis and, and this is again, who is what,

and that's really the 2 state solution. again, this is a brand k bumper say among us officials, they've been repeating this study is they don't mean it, but it's a good thing to say, you know, like, you know, well we support the 2 state solution. we need to stay for the balance and we're not actually going to do anything about it. we're not even going to say gave us the, you know, the 1st step to was get the achieving it. but we'd like to say it because it makes us feel good. it makes it to be ok. monetary impulses. yeah. we like you monetary pause because it sounds good. thank you man. i gotta jump in here gentlemen, that's all the time me. i'm gonna think my guess america, shannon budapest on him. i think i'll be worse. but watching us, the warranty is the next time. remember, prospect rolls. the on the

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