tv Cross Talk RT November 1, 2023 10:30am-11:00am EDT
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which one? yeah, i think it is. it seems as though the, even though there's talk about the kelly the want, i'm killing of a lot of it is particularly children. and no one can do anything about it. and they don't seem to be wanting to do anything about it. and what do you, netanyahu rather do this thing? and this is a very unfortunate development, yet we condemn it. what, but you're seeing the reaction here in the united states. i'm in virginia and i'm saying this all over the country that uh we're, we're, we're, we're seeing the universities rupturing with the opposition. the unfortunate thing is that people equate what's hosted on 7 october with that with all palestinians. and that's not the, that's not the case. and what, while that episode with thomas cannot be conducted either what, what the reaction is right now is well beyond anything that was done on 7
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october and, and i, i'm afraid that neither one of them can really be justified. well, of course it cannot be, but we can contextualize is they refuse to contextualize the conflict in ukraine and weak i have in my program. and i will contextualize what we're seeing in palace like this as a result of 75 years of occupation and displacement and gross violations of human rights. of course, we all should and no one should can go, we should all be very angry with the atrocity. i'll use the word against atrocity that i'm us committed. okay, but it doesn't, it doesn't let me go to tom right now, but that doesn't give israel the right to commit at the cleansing. go ahead, tom agreed. i, we can, we can all be outraged by what happened on the settings button over, but at the same time their response,
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since then has been well unacceptable in every and every way. and the thing is, is, is, and is, is we have asked the question, this deals that, and i even more, i'm even more worried about what's going on beyond this, right. it's, this is bad enough, but now, immediately within what 24 hours or 12 hours of the mazda attack the war machine in the west, and i'm all across the vice, including the u. k. and i'm just in the u. s. and just the ones, the grams of the world, nikki haley is overall to the mediately point, fingers of the wrong. does anybody not smell the 911 to step here, where the saudis point planes into, you know, the world trade center and then we went to war with a rack. and the same thing is now work. we're going to ethnically cleanse cause and now we're going to go to more with a ron. the wires. why is the was pushing 4 carrier groups have only 12 little tom. i mean, i, i'm sure all of us noticed that the axis of evil was back in vogue when it was
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completely just refuted. after 911 here, when they go to marco in rome, you're an expert. you've advised prime ministers on the middle east. what happened to europe? i mean, i, you know, i'm, i'm not a young man, but i remember when europe had a very different position than the united states when they came to the conflict in the middle east. now it seems like europe is in lock step. what happened? it's quite good enough to know. first of all, it's quite difficult to say, well, it's often to you. i'd say a complete the metamorphosis. 20 years ago, we have to go back 20 years to find you the rate between gauge it us me to use them policies 20 years ago. we sold that on to issue one was of course the water and iraq. and the 2nd one more related to what we have watching, knowing gaza was when you will impose to day us the drafting adult from the
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sol cool road map for the peace process which doesn't intreat. but since then you will pass, nope, acted anymore. and unfortunately the loss of time to the american steed in 2014, with john kerry. and he said, no, we're watching you to put high doodle. and it is possible that both washington named brussels refuse to support the ceasefire. may be related to the hope that these are the wills that will be able to get 3 to my mouse once and 4. but i'm afraid these option now up there is more and more remote another this is surprise is becoming us or not because in terms of cdn casualties, now we see the strengths of west and democracy, that type of stuff. that's how now a lot wouldn't bostic the popular proud to. well, well mark, oh i see an eye on that. so are you, i'm sure you noticed. okay,
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let me go back to michael here is that um, you know, the u. k is always been a strong ally, have been added sites or all of this a for in wars and interventions, but even they stayed at the united nations security council. michael, it tells me that you can't government is afraid of its own people on this issue. michael, as well, it's, uh, it's all of the broiled in the ukraine. yeah. so the nice things that the british people are concerned about over extension themselves, already all were extended in ukraine. but i, i, as i see the, uh, the guidance, the more, the more likely it's rarely is going to, this is not gonna wipe out how much so much as it's going to bring in other other players. right now, we're all good prices are seeing yemen, and especially because of the beginning to react. so if it looks like more and more people are going to get killed. and i understand that the so called ground defense
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with beginning just this morning. it's going to be, it's going to be very, very important to watch what the reaction will be from, especially hospitalized. i understand a son does rama they had a hospital. i will be speaking on friday. it's going to be a very significant speech. i also understand that the love of these people so support uh possible at this point because of the potential threat to let them know . and also the liberties army backs up. so this could really get totally out of control. and, and, and, and i doubt that you're going to see serious, serious reaction from europeans, even though they have, they moved to the few ships, but the bulk of the, of the action would be of any response would come from the yeah, yeah, they did. it's made tom i was only a few months ago, the jake sullivan said that things were looking pretty good in the middle east here . these are the people that are running this. these are the people to talk about
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the rules based order. i mean, this is good beyond lunacy because it's so dangerous, tom, you know, it will take, solve is a lie or peter, i yeah. i know, you know, you're, i know you're shocked to find out about this. um, but no, seriously i, i, i don't mean to make light of any of this i, i'm absolutely terrified about what's actually happening here because the way i see it and guys i have a very slightly different view of all this. then everybody else. i firmly believe that the united states be suckered into a kind of 2 cities trapped on the one side from the russians in the earnings, and that the other side also being set up by the europeans and the brits to be the people that start and deal and, and format world war 3 and the left is a smoking room. and after the world turns us back on us as an american living in america. i can see the way i can see that playing out wilds with the british turn around and say no to us after goading us into doing this and setting up our foreign policy for all of these years. i mean, we adopted britain this foreign policy
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a 100 years ago. we've done their bidding and on the world stage for a 100 years. and the more i think about this in the more i look, look at the per figure is this value beyond and by the way, to meet 3 medford admin, bottom recruitment, always make sure to explain who is actually behind the conflict in ukraine. and so i think united states has always been the decision makers in london. and so this is making out in a way that is maximally bad for everyone, not just the united states because of the united states, gets involved in a more it can't win. what does that do to the stability of a world? i mean, we, we all want the united states to end the empire, like, no, no one wants to think americans want it. everyone wants it except for the people who have foment is this conflict the right tom? i think it makes the question. let me go to mark. oh no. and in rome, i mean, because, you know, like i've mentioned the west doesn't want to cease fire in ukraine. doesn't want it in, in causing here. i mean,
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my explain explanation is that they don't want to compromise a gemini, if you, if you make a compromise, then you look week, how do you play that out, marco a while this has been the western up, but also for decades. that is the ceiling. the new and it show 1938 that the few of the other week or the other will take prompt people to this. it's something that, that we have been watching for the case is not a surprise for people to watch being in the system. the, like me, i'm fortunate to be, my sense is the walk is called the root bass would order e, solid cods as the saying this, i mean the, the real meaning is that for my friends, everything for the others that the blue. so basically there's a select few multiplication also of the information on your money 30, i don't know. but i just said before, the most important issue is the call fixed and the context using both them because
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everybody's talking about easy way, the right to self defense. we have not discussed this, right, because every nation as these rise in the case of use that or not because of you well they, they believe are the right. is there as a right to defend itself. that is the excuse to avoid international humanity. not all i want to say, hang on folks, i have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on palestine state without the the, the release of russian states. never as one of the most sense community invest in most all
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sense and up to 5 must be the one else holes. question about this, even though we will bend into your from you and you have the kremlin media machine, the state on rochester thing and split the ortiz full neck, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube, the tv service was full. the question, did you say stephen twist, which is the, [000:00:00;00]
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the so to the 1st was little the, what i mean, the close i filled with the mean google which, which one would you please look for to new cool is solution cookie and you would have them a video for the short notice that would be just to put your phone call if you use for them. so little was, i mean, you source level of control, which is the can you find out from national criteria. awesome, of course, because of some of the, of the social media. and so the number of the walls were pointing to the bus. and so just by to
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the screen of the bus can do, i just need to get them with key at the the washington state, the rules of the us as the phone of send the 2 professional men city and to keep the list of all but huge but they use the welcome back to cross talk. we're all things are considered. i'm peter will mail to mind you were discussing palestine
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the okay, because i had to go to hard break. i had a cut off marco in rome, marco, please continue where you left off. go ahead. my send somebody that, well, they wanted to say is that of course, that's the right to self defense. because he's when he's an occupying power. yeah. oh, but not a totally 30. these right to self defense has to be context blinds. the concept that was invented the way the tool nation went up more instrument click this according to the national low. we can say that the because the russian, they did ukraine. you ok now the right to sell it to the fans, but the in the case of ease or the wind up all this time for the scenes. because these are these occupying policy union territory. it seems to $56.00 is june 6th,
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1967. these, the results of the brands is not the bottom, and most of all, it does not to justify and disproportionate retribution. that's a quite shrinking issue in terms of international law. and this is something that basically is ignored by the, the baby to be because i already bought these channels to be on the right to self defense about the right to some of the fences must be clearly defined e, that's fine. can see that which is the specific situation which was such that right to subs offense is invoke, i mean the case of these really because of what they have been doing to their policy. and it's been the last 56 years. they show when it comes to become a very, very, i would say, fuzzy, you know, way, it's not clear costs completing it as the your b, as in united states one passed to believe. yeah, but it's what it is it's, it's one of those amazing things. all 3 of you, apparently, according to the powers that be and media, it is extremely clear cut and that's what makes it so disturbing,
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because it's justifying a slaughter of, of a population and a population that half of which is children. michael, you know you've worked in the government, you've worked in the valley of the beast, who's calling the shots here? who's calling the shots? victoria? no. okay. you think so? do you think so winter in blankets? you know? yeah, the state state department is, is running this like, it's not the defense department, is the state department and, and probably people who, who are not even in government. and that's what i'm worried about, who are these on knowns? but clearly uh this is, this is being run by the, by the state department, particularly the blinking level. i would, um also add that what she, what she pointed out earlier about the causes that have led up to this explosion are, cannot be minimized. the, this is very serious and the us ignores the like they, that's right,
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by the israelis to tear down. they all awesome, awesome. and, and, and rebuild on, on, on the exact premises. the 3rd simple. i mean that's, that's the 3rd most reviews spot and you know, all of this, the shows a total disregard this respect for religious, but continuous uh, settlements moving into palestinian lands. it basically says the that the to stay concept is, is off the table. yeah. united states pushes the to stay task all day, which is i think they don't believe that. that's just nonsense. okay. i mean, it's nauseating. when i hear that here tom, these people, they never miss, they every crisis and they're usually at the center of it. they always take advantage of it, so let me play it out for you right here. okay, because we've had reports over the last few days from an is really think tank that they would be a conflict like this. we should displace the gods and people in egypt. okay. so
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here's a scenario. you know, instead of, you know, the why. so we white outside, we don't want an expansion of accomplish. i think they do exactly want to do that. they want to like, i totally and i like the people of guys i'd throw them into the desert take on has blocks and have regime change in syria. and i don't think it's an exaggeration, this a potential play out. go ahead. tom, i think gets bigger than that. peter ok. again i, i tell you that why would we have what we have there and ground based error assets that we're moving in and, and, and if we weren't looking at the potential of a wider conflict with a ron. but yes, the displacement of causes look at the end of the day. i hate to say this because i hate to go to this to this level because it seems so tried at this point. but there's a lot of oil and gas there. there's a lot of oil and gas in the go on heights and israel is started with water and energy and as, as well, remember that we are dealing with a, it,
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one of the ways to look at this, i think, are the mark or, or, or, or michael, brighten up earlier, is that, you know, this is the destruction of how moss is part of the, as long as it's on the table here, right? well, at the same time from us, it's kind of a, use it or lose that asset for or, you know, a ron, if you will, if you want. uh you wanna make that argument. i agree. i just, i honestly, it was a kind of a use it or lose that asset for the british. i like that. would you say that applies to has belong, you know, use it or of use. i'll lose it because i why don't things now, i don't believe, i believe, has more as a much more powerful organization than a mazda is. well, i mean what, what is the purpose of what, what is the purpose of it has the law if it isn't going to be used, that's what i mean in that sense. in that sense, i well then, then again, like everything else, i can make a credible arguments that both sides it the geopolitical 40000 for geo political level, or taking or trying to take advantage of the situation or allowed it to happen by turning the other cheek like and say, well, you know, in the, in all the, the,
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and all of the, the, the, the in the read the information we had that everybody was like, why or why did these really is be the border organ bubble. all of this, you ask yourself the question, like okay, then who would set that up? right? and i can make credible argument for both sides like i can make it so i can make a credible argument for its due. were the united states into a and what facilities trap over is real, make them choose between israel and ukraine? well, at the same time, i couldn't make the argument that someone's trying to make russia choose between ukraine in syria. and this to your point, peter. so i guess when you start to think like the people who are actually like orchestrating this stuff, you have to start thinking about the way they see the area and then and then the people and then the people get slaughtered in the middle of the middle of the roll and it's just horrible. yeah, it would help, but you're really smart guy and you can thinking in the, you know, and play multiple dimension chest, these people in power are not that smart,
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then that's what really bothers me here, marco's. i mean, at what point is there any point? what michael said in the very beginning that you know, nobody can stop this will be united states can stop this a big one or 2, but it has no desire to do it whatsoever. um and it will be, uh, a catastrophe for everyone involved. what is the us get out of this marco? of all this is a good question because um, usually we ask our salesforce calling the shots, they fits the united states. the reason is this quite difficult to say sometimes to us. sometimes these right most of the time they are doing to get that call or do you need to be by playing the good golf and back call the roads back. they've grown my sense of the the and the last year. it does become more and more difficult to distinguish their respective roles in the medium is on the so this is basically the, the, the reality we are what she got to be seen standing answer and they found go sort
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of 2nd to the last stop then that was it carried out to find the solution from the listing a show i'm referring to the harbor on my code. so basically that samples cutting 1000 marginalising by throwing interesting and under the boss. and the less than the we should drove from october to 7. it's a debt to if the policy union issues good, the been sold, they cannot make color gaming to qual, experience, i think. but in order to read a de la, they've political rights that the see show i've been sold, but the case a go making possibly the police being of the people with the i pro copy of the gold in the planet. the brittany are gone, but mark, are you at the top of every mark or you're approaching this in a very rational way and you know, and that's good. but let me go to micheal here. esign is i mrs. supremacist
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ideology. it doesn't compromise with, with the people that are occupying their land. apparently, that's why this is impossible. i mean, you know, we can all be rational. and so, yeah, we could design a 2 state system. we're both can live side by side in peace and prosperous. but design is ideology, doesn't permit that it as a matter of fact, is really politics of the last 20 years has gone to go ahead. go ahead, marco, go ahead. b to east story shows us that we are dealing with the rational side of news in the box. okay. rational try it out. okay. the thinking about the chinese is be coming out. are you just ideal? and zine is, is a month to be surrounded by now by a religious issue. so the police being and he's ready to complete that was a secular call late after a long time. yeah. becoming
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a religious one. and we have something become religious. it's far more difficult to compromise. absolutely, and michael, and that's what's being promoted. the, the lindsey graham's, of this world, the nitty hailey's, they wonder why that turned it into a crusade. go ahead, michael. well, that they're well on their way and we're seeing this that once you deify something very circular, it becomes that religion part of that religion. and so zionism has taken out a whole new approach here. and you've seen it and not see it in the by now those current radical ministers to do what they want to do, what they all locks a must do to move all palestinians, even those on the west bank out of there and, and back to basically the jordan and, and, and, and making us your, uh, uh, uh, jewish state. you can't, there's nothing like that exist anywhere else. and we see
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a part time in a lot of other places. but this certainly is an exhibition of it in, in, in sol, display now. and, and we're not shown as united states as a challenge in that. and it is saying that if this thing now, because you're creating a real problem among all peoples here and, and, and, and this whole notion that we, a styles about diversification and what have you, is ridiculous because we're not, we're not expressing that in this policy as well really oh, so i always get away with all its right and i and as i started the program, i will end the problem the way the west is comfortable and this, and i be, we've used the words that ethnic cleansing approaching genocide. the west is comfortable, they have blood on their hands as we watch the destruction of a people live on television. it's extremely extraordinary. as all the time we have done what i want to thank my guess invest in north florida and enrollment. of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here are to see you next time. remember
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prospect. the the, the, the 1st 3rd of the 19th century was marked by the aggressive expansion of the united states. the americans sought to seize as much territory for settlement as possible, ignoring the sovereignty of the neighboring states and the interests of the indigenous peoples. in 1845, washington announce the annexation of the mexican texas. and in march, 1846. american troops invaded mexico. however,
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mexico itself did not have enough means to effectively confront the enemy. besides, it was being torn apart by internal conflicts. the americans manage to turn the tide of the war in their favor. in september 18, 47, the u. s. army captured mexico city. mexico was course designed a humiliating peace treaty according to wait to get lost 55 percent of its territory. vieques agent of the lands to the united states lead to terrible consequences, bloodshed, genocide was committed against the indians in california. during the 1st half century of the american ruled, the number of the indigenous people in the region decrease from 150216000 people. slavery, which had been abolished in mexico long before the united states attacked was restored on the occupied territories. this will later become one of the reasons for the civil war in the united states themselves. nations like individuals are
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punished for their transgressions. we got our punishment. american president ulysses grant wrote about the consequences of aggression against mexico several decades later the, the german. so just deal with the other one will taking the picture. they were proud of domestic but are you ready to go in your mouth because i didn't recommend your pins in there? no, but he got cutting away. or i actually was who i see on google more gained with 10 almost a week ago, and then we'll get to under the, under the general say to us, love to the street. but is this indeed reality last has never been to the did you purchase a i did you please give us a time to time guys? fashion hoya to do that. i missed a this is
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a very bold decision by the gym and the government to even stop because you guys when the agreement was reached, to generate a small divisions in the mall and got more questions or more of those the out is using to pay us or what they are giving us as the petition congress and they always have not been support. you've called what has been happening here. it will open the ponder as box the next thing it will be them. both then also have to pay the
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