tv Cross Talk RT November 3, 2023 2:30pm-3:01pm EDT
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with is with american made weapons, the pentagon is already come out and say, this will do what it wants with the american made weapons that it's purchase. so at the end of the day, the united states is very much comfortable with the military operation against gods . and we can forget about the people that are being persecuted in the west bank. go ahead and run to to yes, thank you for having let me start by saying that the best thing is we did not often get better senior. you just look like um, disruptions device. it's coming to the office of impression and draws out that this is the question for collateral damage. we finished in years, we are not people of alice or got this role as the tires, the international system, by relating to the western values of democracy on base and so on. the west. by the way, we'll take the case to recover from these things that this one has been doing to that mankind. now what we know that is regarding what specials the key blade or
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justifying commerce exist under japan ever fiji campbell under tenants. but there's nothing justifies this mass killings against the junior, sorry, one of the world is watching. um, obviously his role can go on with such inclusion without the approval, blind support of the 19 states. because what happened and the civil war explodes as rose academic vision for the 75 years. i think israel is suffering from uninterrupted crisis pro. but um, uh, what type of do you guys are also, uh, it exposes, uh, double the standard policy all the way back towards the of the way they might states the united kingdom. and those counters are keep saying that israel has arrived for still the 31st of defense. what about the posting is, i mean, well, have you been pushing in this ms. really weiner? as soon as i do get this rate, why we are being treated the us, why we are being doing, or is that because by as soon as i'm, that's why. well the,
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it's interesting is that this land tray here is where it helps the right to self defense. ok, fine. but israel as occupying guns in the west bank. so it's far more complicated, legally, a then, then the cliches would make it out to be lucas. if i can go to you just kind of an extension of what we heard from us if is that there is seems to be a suspension of international humanitarian law. i mean, in the rules based order and all of these other slogans that we hear all the time. they're all, all of a sudden suspended for one country under one condition. and they have prophecy of that is because blaring and it's getting far worse because these images are just terrific. i think it's something you can't forget when you see it. go ahead. lucas . yeah. as you know, i've been to the rock twice. i was deployed there for one of these other wars that my country launched illegally into the rock and destroyed that nation. so i've seen
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death and destruction before. what i'm seeing coming on from guys is death and destruction like as if it's out of war and they're not at war. these rallies are committing. what i would say is a genocide and several people are starting to use this word comfortably. because as you mentioned, peter, the pictures and videos of babies and children being pulled out are rubble. these are not combatants. the claim of loss is under a rebuilding, but i've never seen that. how my sold are being pulled out of the rubble. we just see these people being massacred in genocide, ethnically cleansed because that's the policy of desires entity. they want to expand. they don't have this solid border for a reason. they want to keep go the going the oh, did you non plan do people you can look that up. they want this from the euphrates to the, to the see, hold out to the see the entire thing that the palestinians say they want to be freely as early as want. the entire thing is the opposite. and they are more than happy to commit genocide in order to get that. whereas they say, well, if we put our weapons down, we will cease to exist. and no, you won't,
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you would go back to what it was before is real existed which was completely fine. the arabs and the jews were living in peace. it's only been a problem ever since design is parasite as well. i called colony kanes into existence. so it's, it's terrific what we're seeing and it's allowed because design is captured, the west, the western media, the western politicians. we have lobbies like a pack which is trending on x the other day. these are the reasons why there's silence from the west because they have captured, bought off. and as the american people, the people in the k, in the west, in general, under their spell. well, i anthony and, but that, that's if we can talk about the global south and that's not selling it at all. i mean, we have a number of countries that started breaking diplomatic relations with israel, the jury. jordanians of recall, they're in bass that are and they said they will not go back until the conflict is over. i don't know how we define how this conflict comes to. and then it's, it's very strange to me that you know, for all the talk of,
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of israel's military problem, this and all of this, which i think is more propaganda than anything else. if, if they really were that they would go into a, a full forest for the landing basement, they won't because they, they can absorb the casualties. it's unacceptable to them. but it's acceptable if you can kill a child every single 10 minutes in gaza. the point, the point i'm trying to make here is it is real likes to flex its military muscles because it knows it has the west backend, particularly the united states. but it doesn't have a political objective to extricate themselves from this problem because this is going to be going to stay with them for a very long time. unfortunately, i think all horror of is going to be talking a number a number of times together before this conflict comes to an end. go ahead anthony. well yeah, so i agree with you such a, let's see, previous speak, cuz i'm sorry, it's on property trinity, but if it wasn't for perfect preview usa, the terry this way, the government or all the ship site, the com to sign
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a government wasn't a good fit to what i have taught me and so they stop say they're poor all over them off they've got rock, she don't. 2 but if you look at say, the position of the you carry are cool. so you kind of get hot the mandates for palestine up until 1948. you think there would be a certain surface pump? sabelle it said bother you tied to the show piece between the preston series and most of the sudden palestine. but instead what we're doing is we're actually using tar and shipping and it's stream is fine. honestly don't benefit is trial. see actually even work against in for us. so these are the people because i haven't called these are the people they are, but they might have some people behind them. but the reality is won't good, is all the risk in today for as variety relations with the rest of the walls or do
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they don't actually can because they go the way it is certainly things before i, if we look up the, how about the situation? because certainly have the elections back in 2006 place still or the had 45 percent of the right. sorry. um you told sort of all you your account take perfect to your house or be so busy on the population of calls. uh uh, because basically you call the site the majority of people and also supports how about, sorry, so i mean, but the anthony, let's go back to our guest and one then, i mean, again, this is a convoluted argument to mean a joe biden, in his infinite wisdom and i say who that with a lot of sarcasm says, you know, the people of, of a guys are don't support them off. well then why are you telling them why you will let them be killed? okay. if, if that's a, i mean, you see every single argument they make is convoluted upside down and inside out,
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go ahead. yeah. well, absolutely. when, when he said that this was the right for something strange, but it has to act within the international law. what kind of a traditional lo, when you just intentionally kill somebody? yeah, i'm give justification, gospel british and by the way, they understand the regions or expelled back and 94 k from the indigenous asset is uh, across the street. by this time, as long as the patient or young people below the age of 20, i, by the way, if there's all things that, how much do you think that are seniors as human shields? because israel that has been using but as soon as human shields for the positivity, find he is when you know we did not deny the indigenous peoples, but i started garza and westbank in jerusalem the from their basically chrysler needs one chart, tricity medical supplies, fluid and also the waterfront was that the medium black out inches? yes. i am people come up with the idea even. you know is, oh, is extremely nation or, you know, goes in clinics and visit again because that is considered as
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a concentration got even because at present when you just have drugs, as the most popular person present means that you committed the crime. but as soon as they know what the crime, because they've been, you know, finding personal determination, they're going to some people being killed, they are night. and there is also have more defined folders. these are, the result is there won't be no keeps mixing more. it has no constitution and it keeps lying to the with when it's really, you know, he again the, the ironing of iron is israel is a product of the united nations. you with the bar? yes, i mean, but, but you, you would think, since it's a creation of the united nations, it would be incumbent upon israel to follow the resolutions of the security council, which they don't let me, let me go back to lucas because he, you know what? it's like to be in a about a on a battlefield. i'll say exactly what i think i'm not going to make it pretty. but for anyone,
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i think they want to just clear the land and they don't care how they do it. as long as they get the backing of christians, zine is in a even tell a calls and you know, be all this apocalyptic nonsense. and this will feed into that. and they'll say, you know what, they'll say, lucas, we did it for peace. that's good. that, that's going to be their slogan. go ahead. looks exactly how many of have in yahoo, you know, using well tell music versus about. i'm a lack in the light in the darkness the appealing to this or religious. they similar to how george bush that it's after $911.00, then it's a christian verse muslim board. here we have this jewish verse palestinian war and is going back to ancient, you know, text to justify his mass murder. and i've seen rabbis even say, hey, you know, this is how it has to be conducted. men, women drilled, and everything's got to go. we have to raise gaza completely. we've been nice for too long. i heard a woman say we're, we're being nice this what we call that interview. i saw that interview too crazy. you've been nice this all can. she was talking to her son going in the battle.
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apparently i look, this is something he said he's like, we're going to change history. they're going all in this time after the october 7th incursion, or wherever you want to keep one or call it, you know, how must finally strikes back and those rallies, feel what they've been doing for 75 years. and i'm not justifying either one doing anything, but this is they want to call it a war one here and, and then that happens to them. they start crying up all my go look what we, we couldn't condemn it, but we can certainly stand it already. and not whitewash it as well gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on gaza. stay with our tea. the, [000:00:00;00]
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the, the russian states never is as tight as on the phone in the most sense. community best ingles, all set and set up the same assistance. must be the one else calls question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin media machine, the state on the rush coding and split the ortiz full neck, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube tv services for what question did you say a request,
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which is the the welcome back across that were all things are considered. all right peter. well this is the home addition to remind you were discussing palestine. the the toys go back to anthony. it's the again, i want to go back to the, the politics of is and the military because, you know, they, they, they, you know, we hear the rhetoric during, in the fall, gabor, i think the defense minister going on saying, you know, we're washing our hands of the gods here, this will be the last time we do it. a very popular liptak language and they're all probably secular jews too. i always find it very interesting. secular, people using religious terminology, but it does kind of big. the question is what's next? okay. they get to bring in a file to, you know, a boss, you know, is he get a ride into guys on the back of been his wally tag?
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i don't think he's going to be welcome there. oh, we'll get the egyptians to do a bit zip. since they're not going to do this, oh, maybe the saudis will send in a part, they're not going to do it. nobody wants to dirty their hands on this because it is at the very least ethnic cleansing it worse. it's genocide then who wants to be associated with that job? i'm listed up history. well, remember what you did here and now go ahead. anthony was closely about another tree about the tree off for taste of this row and go on. so it is all giving the impression that america is probably the onboard, verify the story. the government does. this is fair, but i hope you're well mcgraw's has gotten your end up kind of being the saw. no, i guess it's our price agents will certainly call certain i don't. good is this thing, but he does putting some line, but the fact that 3 christian churches are bought and taken garza and christians to
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the christian leaders in palestine as a whole, have desperately pay old selection and countries to cost on this floor. and as i said, number of questions on the side who's actually standing out for the question is in the middle a speakers? the kind of usa policies are the last? yeah, yeah. last few years, just so that you said christie. it was in the middle east and it won't be beat to the sky box but, but, but it is quite possible for these christians and most of us live together because of the right cause of many hundreds. it is a 10 doing what we have to do is to stop these strain, this paper, right? because governments induce right? oh, the st. mary's grip i speak on behalf of who are jewish with ms. riley people because they just started. but the trouble is the by to the distribution, and then 5 administration in the u. k. there's nothing to do. this is causing so
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much home. what is the, i'm the coolest vickers thought that's the problem. they say one of the costs of the game is the reputation of the you, k and the u. s. i discovered roy down they'll, they'll take us far as a to, because up is already in a bad situation because of the situation regarding ukraine, which of course not the size of anything about now. but i'm also powerless about like you look at the uh, civilian casualties, didn't ukraine? i the, the a 2 year period. but apparently the figure that the $21.00 days. yeah, yes. it will. i will a indirectly answer your question, who's projecting questions in the middle east? christians live um, safely in widely, in a ran and whole by the way in syria as well. but don't tell that to people because western media likes the cover of those sites. you said,
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let me go back to you. you know, people talk about home us all the time. they can have their opinion. most people in that badly informed in the west is, what is it to you because it's a terrorist organization. it's a, it's a social organizations, a political party. what is some in your mind? well i, there has been trying to get defined homebuyers. i'm transformed from us into i'm going to start to attract the support of the internship community, especially going to the state. how much is the new people? they are normal people like me and you decided to take up arms to resist the coordinators to every gene if you patient that is what has been enjoying with infinity for the positive and 5 years because they know that the piece of process to bring them into the occupation or also of course uh find the current either of us. is there a discount jones for tuesday solution. i even use the wash peacefully around the border. the wonder things don't withdraw the startled different borders. the things
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you won't be sure to even have to respond to too much. basically, what was your to ship learners, perhaps experience the date, the brand of listing on shop a line with color scheme. i mean visual, real big, my sectors and crimes. what didn't go ahead without infinity, we're down to blind support from the rest of the rest are just, are much, is resisting that condition. and they said, actually they are willing to change their constitution. i'm that i'm district their own, they didn't and they tell us to have a set of invest. the go to buy a lot with you. right? and 1967 and we know, but it is when you, i think so it isn't. the students are not going to the just from us, they will become more resisting, will become they will visually create more to go more history. i mean is, oh really isn't one space. it can have these right now just don't look nice person has rise to it. said, i don't know and you know, somebody could use our ultimate be turned back because of go around 770000000 person or if she's just kind of all over the world and it has to come visit. but i
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still use the vision as a service. the internet is coming destro that there's that. and then this brings a revel, palestine wrapped up pretty simple for you. i'm in the west because they care about is where i will be doing for our drops. it is right, it is. uh, they said that if you raise the price of, in fact the case, my point is the best crime. what kind of expression, you know, i mean honestly, i mean, definitely sort of what is the, the stuff with that and everything the going to use it. but at the same time i support not season ukraine. i mean, i'm just trying to find the most everywhere. yeah. well, the west will always support extreme is brooks because it will have rates instability, which they can always really wants to finish the started right before the end. it wants to finish the next. i need to cancel because i want to say that i send you an extension of the warranty to. it's interesting, lucas, it is it. but recently, over the last few years, not always something that is frowned upon and is really discourse because you're
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supposed, well it never happened. and you know, they left in, you know, they left the keys in the door and as well, they just want to leave. but now they're using the term again and you know, again i was, you know, we started out the 2nd part of the program talking about the future. but there is no cost ability design is and will not confident a to put 2 state solution. it's this the thing called to that world view. so what do we do? that's why we have this conundrum. you know, you know it's going to be 0. 1 a one state and it's good to be ethnically cleanse. when done. yeah. they're not done. yeah. lucas. yeah, i mean that's funny, they bring it up, the knock where they say never happened. and you know, it's funny that the media always starts with everything was fine until a mass flow over the wall. and all kinds of are similar to ukraine. washer all, everything was fine until putting invaded no, there's a whole these you just woke up in the morning and said they do you great. so most americans, as you, as you mentioned, or most people in the west don't understand or go know what's going on because the
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media starts their timeline when they want to start it. and they forget the history of the knock, but which again, scientists, terrorist and militias, display 700000 palestinians from the home committed massacres across the land. and that's where all start, that's what israel's founded. so people don't even know the story and they say, well that's crazy, never happened now they're saying bring on the 2nd knock, but we're going to finish what we saw. busy did, and these rallies are pretty much hanging themselves with this narrative, which again, in one way it's horrible to know that this happened. other, it sheds light. what design is entity actually is it is this colonial power. so you can also look if it's a stain on the conscience of the west, because words, no one can say in this day and age with the technology we have even though they, they're switching on and off the, the internet and the phones and all that know on a conscious knowing person cannot say, i didn't know you can't say that right now, anthony:
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a well i think it's ok won't stop doing. it goes but the is ready. got them says psych interviews, that's a very caught in thoughtful truck, bottom half hour, that be where i'd say pretty so i can capital cities, but i don't see a visual impose in the world, but uh great. so being defeated in city areas without destroying the civilian population because it is a little crime say target. so to the of this is or is that's actually happened. but if we go back and see how the situation will be published on the post on the if we can get it done, but really to the 2 state solution, which i mean the, you, i have my law for about because to perfect it's gone, right? jobs, that's all we've got for sure and show that it is right. let's take a 3. we have a son has a go for the home for phase as we know. so how is it, how is it supposed to be hard to find it?
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so because it has to have the right to self defense, the same is is right. oh, yeah. the housing goal because i know the forces office in gauls. uh theres uh i'm asked who i have called by right. uh so the official um full sized box. if we don't see the crates for feet shot, i think the government's at the bottom of the call to go and see the sights of palestine that we don't have to have such a lot incursions and praise how i say that is going to be how fan is now i think i love it is right, these citizens, if i know you're probably going to be secure or they're not going to support what some of the software is, a b, m anthony. i think that, you know, that's what you know, the october 7th will go down in history for many, many different reasons. but it is, it is the failure of design this project, okay. it's supposed to be israel is supposed to be the haven for. are jews around the world on they're not so say they're not safe for an important affairs in here
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and they're not safe at home right now. design, this project is gone, bust is made the situation for jewish people around the world very on site and it's time for you right. course body is ready. the complement regarding the i think is obvious. i don't really care about read j is whether it comes down say, i may say there is a step is between g dyersburg who as long as i remember you, all, usually the sign is i'm is a bastardization of you days and i want to give the palestinian on our panel the last minute go ahead go in london. i think there's, as the product is declining and all is ready to have to us citizenship as to why there is a risk that can be started by the time, basically towards your discharge, that they don't have this sense of belonging to them. but as soon as are being bunk beds like, like for the past 25 days and they did not move in and just from their houses, there's shown that the 2 loaners if they're not i think i don't get it on piece is
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a raj is wrote is not willing to exit, i person interstate, especially in drug sticks, where i stand solution, and it wants to make it things that 13 years out. but i talked to somebody with a drawing some points to the person in the doors with incredible media like or so. i think there's a learners and i think the old will know whether it this, why am i and i couldn't have anticipated a a positive and to a very tragic story that we're talking. but i'm glad we ended on that. the point i want to take my guess and break where things and, and in london really, i think our viewers for watching us here at ortiz, the next time, remember, process was the, the, the 1st 3rd of the 19th century,
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it was marked by the aggressive expansion of the united states, the american sought to seize as much territory for settlement as possible. ignoring the sovereignty of the neighboring states and the interests of the indigenous peoples. in 18. 45, washington announce the annexation of the mexican texas. and in march, 1846, american troops invaded mexico. however, mexico itself did not have enough means to effectively confront the enemy. besides, it was being torn apart by internal conflicts. the americans manage to turn the tide of the war in their favor. in september, 1847, the u. s. army captured mexico city. mexico was forced to assign a humiliating peace treaty according to wait to get lost 55 percent of its territory. vieques agent of the lands to the united states led to terrible consequences, bloodshed, genocide was committed against the indians in california. during the 1st half
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century of the american ruled, the number of the indigenous people in the region decrease from 150216000 people. slavery, which had been abolished in mexico long before the united states attacked was restored on the occupied territories. this will later become one of the reasons for the civil war in the united states themselves. nations like individuals are punished for their transgressions. we got our punishment. american president ulysses grant wrote about the consequences of aggression against mexico several decades later. yeah, search over the law right now who me up. i give a shit it is i should associated with the local church. so certificate of boulevard
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