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world from the middle east. israel and the usa was virtually isolated from the international community this week as they oppose the un general assembly begging for rest bite in u. k. u. s. u and mass killing in gaza. thousands of children have now been killed by multi $1000000000.00 weaponry and the energy rich, gaza strip targeted for decades by nature a nation weapons. so why would the, our world's most populous country egypt fully open? the rafa crossing to the families of gaza free the slaughter. and why can the are well not militarily intervene is routine in other parts of the world. in cairo is the arab league, school minutes extra. the general i'm, i'm with a, he is being the egypt and baskets with united nations. it's foreign minister and has run for its presidency and he joins me now. thank you so much. uh i was, uh um, just to start with that actually, i know there were reports that uh, the roof a crossing was open briefly for some,

a ridiculous numbers of the trucks as seen by the global south and the communities of, uh, the multi pola will not being israel, why do you think egypt doesn't just open up the border, allowing the people of gaza to escape the us and you bombs, even if obviously that allows israel to take over goes when it has been explained by age of general physicians and by uh, what do you think of the comments? make sure is that this is a and is right, the policy to mtv. ok, by doing that is from it's for the day on by the see me and inhabitants. this is a plan. do uh uh, prevent the establishment of a policy or state by just emptying they can go. it's only about

a seeing as or most of the better. see me as it'd be okay. by better cuz be them in the west bank or in garza, i don't think that the easiest would be possible with accepted to be both of this uh, a policy and any of that out of country. uh, however, from how many davian point to view the egypt has received and will continue to receive, but also need and how some of those are, what about other a but the, the forcible, the price fair. this is a policy that the egypt should not as own of any other nation jeep with it. and this has been confirmed by had a processing fee. uh, when do you want just a quote from the addiction public opinion. also king of the same uh position and it was also supported by the uh, giovanni as regards jordan. but then are we talking about the fact that the age

will be allowed in just to prolong the lives of people in gaza before they are then all killed a to see. and then we'll have as much as we can because the sending in, in is not only a uh, a step button that i, that action, but above all, by a wider policy to reach as these fire. and the stones, they, uh, the, the, uh, kind of been well named um, the civilian population and the strip. so its not the only they getting all the good thing out, receiving them in egypt. but also that is copied with some political and the international efforts to do that, i think, which is a ceasefire, and it's still being be the, the collective punishment exercise the by is right. so this is part of the a, a, a reaction, a one of us under the action, of course,

of the difficulties implementing all that. but what i'm doing, whatever we can provide that we don't fall into that trap of being uh, just a scooters of uh, is that like the policy of uh, ending people somebody cuz of having a lot of seniors. so you talk about the killing, you talk about a sci fi. why do you think it is that we saw by you didn't fly into the middle lease, so not from britain sholtes from germany, all opposing a ceasefire. and then again to the united nations. we saw the united states saying that must not be a ceasefire. why do you think they're saying? what they say is the policy of the same folder. so hold to, is there any, they're not in this old on other policies, and they're going to is i'll be happy to see me. and the question regarding the so

the fact that this is a case of military, okay, patient, there's really medically occupation now supported by pauses, but not anymore to play. be honest. the real good and good not anymore really contributes to the establishment of a uh, api. so he'd be same be in the industry in egypt. however, i would say that the, the boss, the majority of the international opinion, or even states express the views and the general assembly the day going forward a ceasefire. going in for the border take on the framework for i a 40 because solution i'm calling for stopping the must have good that is taking place now and guys are so what is it, what is it about this an issue really? i mean, i don't want, we really talking not about the middle east or indeed the arrow blue. but we don't care about the united states when we talk about gods. what would be the reason?

what would be the reason that the united states isolate itself amongst the visions i'm gonna say, is your question from the beginning. it is b. yeah, but as what has been by then i said, there's right to be mailed them. they should have created that. so this is clear, so i don't think i'm to be b, b, b, yes. subject of questions and i said this is the supple buyers read by the united states. all the is right. and this a form is coupling with a no rain the by the standing outside of the story and ignoring the point of seeing us. i mean. 3 is right now is enjoys be so hold on to the important concept interest, but the idea of that is to wherever it wouldn't be with no, i mean, unless, unless we own not only that was also that use and to solve. and everybody well then says that enough is enough that we should not the homework. she's not continue

ignoring the but assuming question or mentioning the oldest i say the dangers or the continuation of these already be mandatory or completion of the occupied by the cn technical is. i believe that the story is not. of course the story is not yet finished. i'm the you will receive the be a lot of mobilization out on the woods. that'd be fine as the main question is a question to be is not a properly address in the nurse. and i know in accordance with that, i some countries i know people to send them an issue. i believe the future of distribution wouldn't be betty. but it would be in danger, seen as danger, and very threatening to the stability and international peace and security. this is our job to do, uh, then would be a uh, an item summit and inside of that area, i hope that this summit will you come with the right decisions to formulate

a i'm a position to be on base with a whole lot about certain things that we can never access, which is to answer the palestinian question altogether. this would not be joined by the arabs and all of them, including in particular as i believe, b a, b, b, b adults, always sub just the different ones. the conditions with the is right, because what does that light is? rice and what is that right? is that the esteem in question should not be called okay, but before we go on, who we talk about the enough is enough in the words of what are you saying therefore that until yeah. so therefore, before that summit, but are using until then until the apple is such we a and i'm because it is, it is not that clear that is also resistance and goes right. so apple bay and vision, i guess, day and vision there on basically the troops. i never, even,

it'd be as lazy to groups managed to do what they wanted to do. it would not be the end of the story as they it'd be, it'd be public. right. and it is in the state of purely that cannot accept the what is going on be the issue is still the on the table is in the hanging on. and we are going to see a lot of the negative developments. and perhaps supposedly the positive with job. well, that's the way to see a speed outcome of the uh, upcoming out of some of the end result, you know, in the russia. so what was happening to it's russian speaking citizens in the east, in ukraine. it went in to protect them. why is it the arab world who don't even need to militarily intervene, giving them because they can just switch off the energy to the countries arming

israel? why can that not have happened before all the atrocities we witnessed in recent days? when now we, i'm producing a problem that has not been there before. the b 7 hold of the problem is that now there is right, is came out together with the allies ready of lovelady. but what we need is the know, see how steep uh, the, the, the possible uh, evacuation. i'll be about a senior citizens known ceasefire. um the, the, the, the, the, the, the must therefore be by the to be there. but why do we have to wait for the emergency? some is in re a. why do we have to wait or lose? why wait for a summit? when it was repeated, this un security council, you know, seems by weight,

we have to no, no, no, no, no, no, no way of egypt has opened already the quarter the, i'm going to receive the, the, be uh wanted and that also need the 3 met damage of channels pickups, and the system is getting in the be that, but i don't think the invasion is going easy. be honest with me. the, the, you're not, the admission genet assembly has expressed the majority of the international community that the some, both to the right. so, but his name is i'm calling for or if we are talking about, sorry, form is i hate general. and as you know, israel doesn't care about that. they will yellow stars at the un security council, you know, position the bad doing that, but this isn't just uh, you know, one of those, uh, things that the, that the most i'm, but unfortunately nothing good about, uh, such tactics. maybe the where the yellow or black or

blue light will come and they went away. but they are doing that wrong thing. and they have to know that things are not going to be on within that favor. as they would have poked the, the, what we have seen, the ministers, you're going to go to a senior and i'm having cuz so we have seen them in bathing. and this is making b, b, b most injured. and i'd be like almost, and the choices we have seeing them distributing. good. um do they need to be a funds in the uh, maybe the assessments and doing own or anything that would create major problems and that was the bank. that is why i ask you not to to go so, but it's only on guys that but just to follow up is going on in the west bank. all know what is going on and oh, the own on be occupied territories. this is much bigger than the situation it and

goes to the situation and does that is so dangerous, and i gave him, or he might acadia under human rights, and they've got national. no, i don't. but what is going on and there was some bank she'll be on, so i should still be the be the it'd be attention of the notion that media is very serious on the also in the end of an m b. and that was to bring the, the whole thing and the issue is now back to before i was, i'll stop you the more from the former egyptian foreign minister and r block secretary general after this break the the,

the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with the former egyptian foreign minister and arbor. the executive general i'm was we were just talking about the ongoing violence. we were just talking about the ongoing violence in the westbank that alone, well, we've seen the atrocities in gaza. isn't there a problem that your presidency is imposing millions of dollars of military weapons

and equipment from the usa and his and boarding energy from israel? is that why he can't do anything to militarily protect the civilians of palestine? no, the can come out any military action. and if so, the united states is not blowing on i the location. i don't suggest that we've been debating to this a 2 of the very 3 eviction our amended reactions from the time being we have to talk about the political side of it and the situation, the managerial situation and does up and that it is situation. so then because in the west bank, the actual in michael premium, now that is on the sofa of a strategic visit, right? as a money paid in and many daily than defeat or be but a senior. unfortunately, it is right now which tries to punch in the kind of thing and questions

to prevent any money from talking about the competition. so back to bill corporation is back on that they would be buying a cdn question is back as a priority on behalf of trend open international relations. this is any sense is i'm out she month. second me. they have seen that what they have done and be able to bypass the experience. i'd give them o cost them a heavy price because as the circular general be united nation has the admissions that has said, that's what happened in $7.00. on the 7th of october, they both came from nowhere, menu of essex, corrected that, that under and the prostitution but the only by the seniors because of the extras because of anxiety treatment to them. because the best way the point is, is when just explode that that's what happened on the 7th of october. therefore, any further action we have another that is actually the same and that is

all but the made an east i'm the presentation. so going back to what is right and was doing it wouldn't be many different kind of research. i've tried that a success b. uh cnn ad goes. however, i want to say it all off in this that we should split in the civilian population that riggers of many can open ations. this has to be either us. they do this right, is as they are doing, what do i believe of cause put bombing of their civilian will take basically, any of that, just being established as the united states does not share your opinion there. where do you think, where do you think nato propaganda media gets? the idea that i'm us is somehow in the rainy and proxy, i mean assume the organization. but i mean, people may need to be reminded of them as supported american policy and syria for

a while it appeared what? yeah. why, where did they get this information from that? i'm us is some kind of a fix. it's orders from tell ron. and what, why, why is that repeated everywhere and whether use or just do you suggested that the big as being said as a resource, it could be also invented or expected or whatever. but that's what did they say, i meant to see, or what would happen and that would be the amount of sprint. and we've done that as being said on the media, be locked as to what, what's happening to the proceedings make us load said, and i believe that the whole public opinion implemented he's is angry and the public opinion, immigrants is not on the out of the tax the add on as to why the industry in discords. i told them in the house is enabled. there is angry. they've got enough

to continue with that way. it cannot continue with that way. this is a message that i believe everybody in the international community, including the united states, although it off or should be a little. it's increasingly the jewish community in the united states that are joining solidarity with the palestine. i don't know whether you came under assassination. i didn't, i don't know whether you came under the threat of assassination when you were arabs . extra honorably exec to general. but i noticed the when the, you a call, the emergency security council session, that kind of shoulds name was invoked comparing gaza to how do you think if antonio gutierrez continues in the way that is, he may be assassinated the way that repeatedly the united states killed that guy, although i hope i, i hope that god would protect the dish and such policies are of by size the nation with no being able to do because uh uh it could

be not managed any way. and it is a different uh, situation altogether than having said that, the navy, i've seen the muster companies being repeated now in the in does but we haven't, but i know, but trinity, if we really sit together and see that the, the continuation of the state of school is uh, absolutely, uh, and when the d b, it could happen that could happen. and i called to be out of the day on the, the small, mundane is the right itself. and also some of the peaceful solution. those hold against the policy of the government. i go long to join the international community are ultimately going on the government to stop such policies. and these are going

to be by the seniors and the policy opens for the meeting, the occupation. and of course, wasn't just time us on october, the 7th. it was other resistance movements. do you think and they must have expected some kind of response. do you think that they thought of targeting? israel is nuclear weapons program at the mona, or did they just expect to be killed in their uh, thousands in gaza, including civilians as a response to october 7. what is the issue of the nuclear weapons is a very important issue. that is why we in egypt and, and also the out of the guys going before and we should continue with lenses. that'd be a nuclear issue. the issue should be open. not only people, somebody because of no been on the same hit on bus, be no clear

a situation name is right. you are right and the training for that. and i mean that threats, any thoughts of the use of uh, the, was about the even the existence and such a smaller area. i don't do more not using the same procedure. is it your understanding? they do have nuclear weapons because it goes israel neither confirms nor denies. they have them factors, i come on knowledge and the abuse has to be some that the issue i don't find that we have talking seriously about this either as possibility. but perhaps, as he does fact, will arab governments be able to control their own populations? and as you've talked about here, if they don't stop, we allege genocide continuing. i want you to know that even the governments, the states have been sides really frustrated and angry because of what happens.

that's why a b, b is now a, a case of unanimity among the people, the government and the government. in that part example, when can gumble present cc ever chose to be possible the across state of how people they wait. and then a fully supported by the public opinion into 2 countries on the issue of the uh, guys that it was supposed to be a population to them. that is also one of the benefits that is on. so, but there are what happened then. since the 2nd of october, this is wanting to know be a positive or bad results that you and i mean, you're not limited edition among the people and, and governments. nobody accepts the be the continuation of the, of the situation or the position taken visibility by the stadiums because of the,

the, the medical corporation and disability ignoring. but i thought about a student because of a states bible stick a little how easy will it be for the united states to recover any kind of reputation after its behavior in recent days. and i hope that that they would uh reconsider that position. i hope so. especially after all those demonstrations that have taken place in new york and other cities. and as many of the dues of america sticking about like position that that'd be the most ethical or has to stop. i'm assuming it's most to get their rights and also talk be so without this the piece in the 7th of october, what not that cheap, but anything under that we, they is right away. and it's friends or tried to bring things back to people. what has been being pulled this up on the web builder?

i think you're going to be on the 9th of, of to put things with no good 2nd, unless we change our culture. i'm this, i missed the one include a go for the not space and all on the big powers and all the powers would realize that even is the right to do what they wanted is directly that games been on interest. that gives us just a minute to embed easily, and there is a new position that is in, you know, maybe the, i'm going to be out of public opinion of all, out of public opinion over that my policy has such as this, which we have seen before. 7 to 2, but should not continue. i'm not sure whether you mean that you can envisage king of jordan. no president sees the meeting with joe biden before the next us election. but why do you think joe biden flew in to try and meet with these arab leaders while he was sending these war ships into the eastern, new mediterranean,

the biggest nato nation, ahmad, the summer saying in history all assembled there around the gaza strip. what's it for as, as you know, that the meeting did not take place because of the, a meeting between prison by then and the 3 out of 3 of those did not take place because of the position taken at that time. american position. so that is basically an action manage their position taken by out of congress. don't you realize that that'd be out of control. can you see the us base is closing down into like a base and tacky? will that be shut down by the door open and get different the issue you are open and get different issue visual of a big power. the presence the fall in the region, i'd be just not, this is not the only one man, i visit

a big issue and i'm going to discuss it. but we are talking about different assuming question in particular i'm with uh when i have to have you on a game for that wider issue. thank you. thank you. and that's it for the show and condolences from the whole team here, we're going underground to those bereaved virus florida. there will be more guides on mondays here with the right now and is really historian and also of the ethnic cleansing of palestine progressing on topic until then keeping jobs 5 or less social media if it's not sensitive in your country and had to our channel going underground tv on the come to us new and old episodes of going underground. see him on the

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