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i'm action or time said welcome back to going underground rule got single around the world from the middle east. israel and the usa was virtually isolated from the international community this week. as they oppose the un general assembly begging for rest bites in u. k. u as you and mass killing in gaza. thousands of children have now been killed by multi $1000000000.00 weaponry and the energy rich cause of strip targeted for decades by nature nation weapons. so why would the, our world's most populous country egypt fully open, the rafa crossing to the families of guys a free, the slaughter and why in the are well not militarily intervene is routine in other parts of the world. in cairo is the arab league swell minutes extra, the general am unless he is being the egypt to investigate, to the united nations. it's foreign minister and has run for its presidency and he

joins me now. thank you so much. uh i was, uh um, let's just start with that actually. i know there were reports that, uh, the rafa crossing was open briefly for some, a ridiculous numbers of the trucks as seen by the global south and the communities of, uh, the multi pola will not being israel. why do you think egypt doesn't just open up the border, allowing the people of gaza to escape the us and you bones even if obviously that allows israel to take over goes when it has been explained by a general fissions. i'm by uh, what do you think of the comments? make sure is that this is a and is right, the policy to mtv. ok by doing that is from it's for the day on by the see me and

have it. and this is a plan. do uh uh, prevent the establishment of a policy or state by just emptying they can go. it's only about a seeing as or most of the got to see me as in the okay. by better cuz be them in the west bank or in garza, i don't think that the easiest would be possible except to be both of this uh, a policy and any of that out of country. uh, however, from any data in point of view, no egypt has received and will continue to receive, but also need and how some of those are what about other a but the, the for us to begin the process, this is a policy that the egypt should not as own of any and a nation chip with it. and this has been confirmed by the processing fee. uh. when do you want just

a quote from the addiction public opinion own soaking up the same uh position. and it was also supported by the uh, giovanni as regards jordan. but then are we talking about the fact that the age will be allowed in just to prolong the lives of people in gaza before they are then all killed? to save them as much as we can. because the sending in him is not only a uh, a step in the right direction, but above all, by a wider policy to reach as these fire and the stones, they, uh, the, the, uh, uh, kind of been on my end of the civilian population. and the strip so is not the only a getting came all the good thing out, receiving them in egypt. but also that is comp and with some political and the international their phones to do that i think, which is

a ceasefire. and as still being, be the collective punishment exercise the by is right. so this is part of the a, a, a reaction, a one to study the action of course, of the difficulties in implementing all that. but what i'm doing, whatever we can provide in that we don't fall into that trap of being adjust executors of uh is that like the policy of uh, ending people somebody because of having a lot of seniors. so you talk about the killing. you talk about a cx 5. why do you think it is that we saw by you didn't fly into the middle lease, so not from britain sholtes from germany, or opposing a cease fire. and then again to the united nations. we saw the united states saying the must not be a ceasefire. why do you think this thing?

what did they say is the policy of the same folder? so hold to, is there any, they're not in this old, on other policies, and they're going to do is i'll be happy to see me. and the question regarding the so the fact that this is a case of mandatory, okay. should there's really minimally occupation now supported by forces, but not anymore to play. be honest, the real good and good not anymore really contributes to the establishment of a, uh at the 3 b, as in the, in the industry at age. and however, i would say that the, the boss, the majority of the international opinion or even stays express the views and the general assembly the day going forward a ceasefire going in for the border. take on the framework for i a 40 because solution i'm calling for stopping the muscle that is taking place now and goes on.

but what is it, what is it about this an issue really? i mean, i don't want i, we really talking not about the middle east or indeed the arrow both. are we talking about the united states? when we talk about gods, what would be the reason? what would be the reason the united states isolate itself amongst the vision that explains the question from the beginning, it is be, but as far as going by then i said, there's right to be no bad. they should have created that. so this is clear. so i don't think to be maybe the subject of questions and i said this is the supple buyers read by the united states. all this right? and this a form is coupling with it. no rain, the by the standing outside of the story and they ignore the seeing as i means that there is right now is enjoys be some of the, the important concept endorsed. but the idea of that is to wherever it wouldn't be

with no, i mean, unless, unless we own not only that was also that used and the solve. and everybody well then says that enough is enough that we should not the whole world should not continue ignoring people to sing them. question or mentioning the oldest. i think the dangers of the continuation of these lady ministry or corporation of the okay, if i had a student that is i believe that the story is not. of course the story is not yet a finished. i'm the you will receive that may be a lot of mobilization out on the woods. that'd be fine as the main question is a question to be if it's not a properly address in the motion. i know in accordance with that, i some countries i know people to send the commission. i believe the future of this vision wouldn't be betty, but it would be in danger, seen as manager and very threatening to the stability and international peace and

security. this is our job to do uh then would be a uh, an add up summit and inside of that area, i hope that this summit we come with the right decisions to formulate a um, a position to be on base to the homewood. the amount of certain things that we can never access, which is to cancel the plan as being in question altogether. this will not be joined by the arabs and all of them, including in particular as i believe the uh, b, b, b and also established the different ones. the conditions with the is right. because what does that like is rice? and what is that right? is that the esteem in question should? nope, i'm gonna be in gold. okay. but before we go under sure who we talk about the enough is enough in the woods or what are you saying there for that until yeah, so therefore before that summit but are using until then until the apple such we

hear about because it is it, there's no back to clear, and that is also resistance and goes right. so apple, the invasion, i guess the invasion there on basically the troops. i never even, it'd be as lazy to groups to manage to do what they want it to do. it would not be the end of the story as they it'd be, it'd be public complaining and it is in the state of purely that cannot accept the what is going on be the issue is still the on the table has been, uh, uh, hanging on and we are going to see a lot of, uh, negative developments and perhaps supposedly the positive, which i will talk to, to see is to be the outcome of the uh, upcoming out of summit, the end result, you know, in russia. so what was happening to it's russian speaking citizens in east,

in ukraine, it went in to protect them. why is it the arab world who don't even need to militarily intervene, giving them, because they can just switch off the energy to the countries arming israel? why can that not have happened before all the atrocities we witness in recent days? when now we are facing a problem that has not been there before. the police have been hold of the problem is that now there is right, is came out together with that allies ready? uh, monthly. but what we need is the know going to see how steep uh, the, the, the possible uh, evacuation. i'll be happy to see me in the citizens. no ceasefire. um the, the, the, the, the, the must therefore be but they, they,

they but why do we have to wait for the emergency? some is in re a. why do we have to wait for this? why wait for a summit? when it was repeated as to un security council, no single buying, wait, we have to. no, no, no, no, no, no, no. when the agent has opened or they maybe caught it, or i'm gonna receive the, the, the, uh, wanted and then also need, uh, 3 montana channels pick ups. and the system is getting in the b that but i don't think the invasion is going to be used to be honest with me, the, the united maybe sion, janet assembly as well as the, with the majority of the international community that some, both to the advisor but his name is i'm calling for an order we are talking about, sorry, form is that hey general, and as you know, israel doesn't care about that. they will yellow stars at the un security council, you know, position the bad doing that. but this isn't just the, you know, one of those, uh, things that the, that the most i'm,

but unfortunately nothing good about, uh, such, uh, uh, tactics maybe the where the yellow or black board. well, the light will come and they went away. but they are doing that wrong thing and they have to know that things are not going to be or was in that favor, as they would have told the the what we have seen, the ministers here, what do you think they want to see me and i'm happy because so we have seen them in bathing and this is making b, b, b most injured and i'd be lots almost. and the choices we have seen with them distributing. good. um, do they need to be a funds in the uh, maybe uh, supplements and do it in gold or anything that would create major problems and

that was the bank. that is why i ask you not to do it because it's only on guys that but just to follow what is going on in the west bank holding what is going on . and, oh, if the own on be occupied territories, this is much bigger than the situation and it goes to the situation and does that is so dangerous. and i gave you some only might acadia under human rights. i'm the nurse and i know own, but what is going on and there was some bank she'll be on. so i should be the be the, it'd be attention of the notion that media is very serious on the also in the and, and, and, and being, and that what's going on with the whole thing. and the issue is now back to before i was, i'll stop you the more from the former egyptian foreign minister and everybody executor general. after this break the

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the, the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with the former egyptian foreign minister and arbor. the executor general i most we were just talking about the ongoing violence. we were just talking about the ongoing violence in the westbank that alone what we've seen of the atrocities in gaza. isn't there a problem that your presidency is importing billions of dollars of military weapons and equipment from the usa and his and boarding energy from israel? is that why he can't do anything to militarily protect the civilians of palestine? i know the talking about the any minute reaction and a soul in the united states is no point. and i don't know my page. i don't uh, suggests that we've been debating to this a, to very creative eviction or

a amended reactions from the time being. we have to talk about the political side of it and the situation, the managerial situation and does up, and that it is situation so then possess in the west bank visual in my opinion. now that is on the sofa of a strategic visit, right. you and my dad and my daddy, the defeat or the by the scene ends on portions me as i know, which tried to punch in the kind of thing and questions to prevent any money from talking about the corporation. so back bill corporation is back on that they would be open to see me and the question is back as a priority on behalf agenda open international relations. this is, any sense is i'm out she month, 2nd me. they have seen that what they have done and the okay, by the experience,

i give them all the cost them a heavy price because i was just such a general be united nation has the admissions that has said about what happened in 7 on the 7th of october, they both came from nowhere. manual by 6 bet. good. that's that i'm there and the presentation, but the i'll be by the seniors because the extras because of anxiety treatment to them because of as a people this is when just expelled. that's what happened on the 7th of october. therefore, any further action, we have another reaction on the same i'm going to is all but the made an east i'm the presentation. so going back to what is right and was doing and it will be many different kind of research. i've tried that a success only uh can i see me. and of course however, i want to say it on openness that we should split in the civilian population that

riggers of many can open nations. this has to be i plus, they do this right, is as they are doing what i believe of kind of put bombing of their civilian will take. basically, any of that, just being established as the united states does not share your opinion there. where do you think, where do you think nato propaganda media gets? the idea that i'm us is somehow in the rain in proxy. i mean assume the organization that i mean people may need to be reminded of them as supported american policy and syria for awhile. it appeared what yeah. why, where do they get this information from that? i'm us is some kind of a, takes its orders from tara ron and what, why, why is that repeated everywhere and whether use or just really suggested that the big as being said, as a resource, it could be also invented or expected or whatever. but that's what did they say,

i meant to see, or what will happen and the b, b, b, amount of screens. and whatever is being said on the media, be locked as to what, what's happening to the proceedings make us load said, and i believe that the whole public opinion implemented he's, he's angry and the public opinion, immigrants is not on the out of the tax. the add on as to why the industry and this one's i told me the house is enabled, there is angry. they've got enough to continue with that way. it cannot continue with that way. this is a message that i believe everybody in the international community, including the united states, although it off or shouldn't be a little. it's increasingly jewish community in the united states that are joining solidarity with the palestine. i don't know whether you came under assassination. i didn't, i don't know whether you came under the threat of assassination when you were arabs . extra honorably executive general. but i noticed when the, you

a call the emergency security council session, that kind of shoulds name was invoked comparing guys to how do you think, give fran telling you a gutierrez, continues in the way that is he may be assassinated the way that repeatedly the united states killed the guy, although i hope i, i hope that god would protect danesh. and such policy is a by size the nation with no being able to do because uh uh, it could be not an agent any way. it is a different situation altogether. but having said that, to be there, you have seen the muscle companies being repeated now in the, in does about we have i, i know paternity if we really sit together and see that be the continuation of the state to school as

a absolutely and when the d b, it could happen that could happen. and i called to the out of the day on the, the small and then is that right in some of those, those are all the peaceful solutions. those hold against the policy of the government. i go long been to joining the international community openly in calling on the government to stop such policies that may be punished in use and that the policy opens for the meeting, the occupation. and of course, wasn't just time us on october, the 7th. it was other resistance movement. do you think and they must have expected some kind of response. do you think that they thought of targeting? israel is nuclear weapons program at the mona, or did they just expect to be killed in their uh, thousands in gaza,

including civilians as a response to october 7th, when the usual of, uh, nuclear weapons imposed on the issue. and that is why we in egypt and, and also the out of the guys school before. and we should continue to insist that'd be a, that nuclear issue. there's a really no good issue. she'll be open not only people, somebody because of no been on the same hit on bus b. nope. in a situation name is right. you are right under training for that. and i mean that protects any parts of the use of, uh, the most about the, even the existence and such as smaller area. i don't do more not using the same procedure. is it your understanding? they do have nuclear weapons because it goes israel neither confirms nor denies.

they have them back to the knowledge and the console doesn't have to be supposed to be something that they should. i don't find that we have talking seriously about this either as a possibility, but perhaps as he does fact, will arab governments be able to control their own populations? and as you've talked about here, if they don't stop, we allege genocide continuing. i want you to know that even the governments, the states have insights uh, really frustrated and angry because of what happens. and that's why the, but it is now a, a case of you know, maybe the, among the people, the government and the government in that for example, when i got the present cc, i've refused to be possible the across thing about people, they wait and then

a fully supplemented by the public opinion into 2 countries on the issue of the uh, guys that it was supposed to be a population to them. that is also one of the benefits that is on. so got there. all right, what happened then? since the 2nd of october, this is learning to be a positive, a bad results that you and i mean to you and amenities. and i'll position among the people and, and governments. nobody accepts the b, b, continuation of the of the situation or the position that they can reserve easy, but his name is b, b, a, b medical operation. and these are the ignoring, but i thought about a student because of a states bible stick a little. how easy will it be for the united states to recover any kind of reputation after its behavior in recent days. and i hope that that they would uh reconsider that position. i hope so,

especially after all those demonstrations that have taken place in new york and other cities. and as many of the dues of america has sticking about like position that that'd be the mess of the car has to stop. and they want to see me as most to get their rights and also talk be. so without this, there will be no peace in the 7th of october, would love to achieve anything and that we may is right away and is friends or try to bring things back to be what it has to be a part of the stuff on the web builder, i think you're going to be on the 9th of 2, but things will be all good. second, unless we change our culture, i'm this, i missed the one include a go for the not space and all on a big powers and all the powers would realize that even is right. and to do what they wanted is directed. that game is dental and interest that gives this community invasion. and there is a new position. there isn't, you know,

maybe the, i'm going to be out of public opinion of all, out of public opinion over that a, by policy such as this, which we have seen before, 7 to 2 but should not continue. i'm not sure whether you mean that you can envisage king of jordan. no president sees the meeting with joe biden before the next us election. but why do you think joe biden flew in to try and meet with these are of leaders? while he was sending these warships into the eastern mediterranean, the biggest nato nation, my, the summer thing in history all assembled there around the gaza strip. what's it for? as, as you know, that the meeting did not take place because of that, a meeting between prison by then and the 3 out of 3 of those did not take place

because of the position taken at that time. american position. so that is, that actually manage their position, thinking by out of congress, don't you in our lives, but that'd be out of control. can you see the us base is closing down into like a base and tacky? will that be shut down by the door open and get different the issue you want open and get different issue visual of a big power. the presence the fall in the region, i'd be just not, this is not the only one. i know this is a big issue and i'm going to discuss it, but we are talking about different assuming question in particular. um with uh, what i have to have you on a game for that wider issue. thank you. thank you. and that's it for the show and condolences from the whole team here, we're going underground to those bereaved virus florida. there will be more guides on mondays share with the right now and is rarely historian and also of the ethnic cleansing of palestine progressing on topic until then keeping jobs 5 or less

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old post code for the 3 of the blues along the largest possible in gaza, is said to be on the brink of good catastrophe with fuel supplies close to running out, but is a way of doing this crucial energy supplies. what we allowed into the territory is really refusing a temporary truce that doesn't include the release of all hostages. israel will not cable the fuel into got the cry for help protest is intended to leave them on the right side of the $200.00 plus sausages