the your sister, what do you live? down in the world? the hello and welcome to cross stock were all things are considered. i'm peter louisville. israel continues to attack guys with impunity. the civilian death toll is staggering. incredibly during all this carnage, washington. and this is really like, or telegraphing their vision for the palestinians after the war. of course it's

forced region change the discuss these issues and more. i'm joined by my guess, george samuel, we in budapest, he's a pod cast or at the goggle which can be found on youtube and local. and america asked we have marble, j. e. as an award, winning journalist and commentator, gentleman crossed up rules and effects. that means you can jump anytime you want, and i always appreciated. but i started out with george in budapest. let's just take it up. we're blinking his left it off. he's back in the, in the region for the 3rd time since october, 7th. and what a display of fake re, i mean it's, it's unbelievable he gets know, deliver of deliverables at the same time. as matter. matter of fact is interlocutors are actually kind of snide in, in interacting with him. and i said, i know why, because he's what he and others have already decided what the end game is. and so

they just are waiting to go through the process, the destruction of the palestinian people and gaza. this, you know, humanitarian pause is, it's a complete joke. he's not serious about it whatsoever. he's is pandering the public opinion the best the possibly can. but it's for screen change. this is what they're really, this is what they've been all about for the last 40 years. george. exactly right, but as well as the 1st was even change isn't going to work. there is no way in the world that israel or the united states are going to get regime the they want it in the, in gaza. so this was particularly insulting because um, uh, buy them at bass. player 2 is raising the boat, goes to blanket. hey, are you moving or do you manage every impose, you know, we have to show the world, we're really humanitarian. no, you know we, we, we have a serious about protecting civilians. and then unless any of those, all them you know, you know, go shopping. i'm not interested even the,

even as you might hear. and even this minus the sign um, i'm not interested in any of the bones this hospital, a com board as a whole week or after the, the leader of harm us. and then even the media say, well, we know we've looked at the sausage, we don't see anyone here other than the women, children, and 6 people should be seeing any spiders. i haven't, i haven't. yeah, it's in the, what's extraordinary is that if the united states wanted, they could really crack down on that and yahoo, i mean, you know, it's really is a dependency on the united states. is finding really was serious. they could do it . but even though it doesn't, you just simply have both of these statements. so we want to manage area was which sounds really good. you know? yeah, we're taking seriously what the un secretary general, they say. but none of this is a, it is, is serious of,

of live with the united states. so what goes on is essentially this is kelly is destruction, but it's kind of a did challenge succeed. and this is, this is just a completely pointless loss of life. because ultimately this goal of cleansing a guys that pushing all the residents out and just creating this a races like israel do an exploit in future, it cannot happen. and so this, so this whole enterprise is just simply pointless mother. well, martin, that isn't this. see what we've seen since october 7th, as we've just seen prevention rates, we haven't seen a strategy other than that. a revenge and rage is just to test. think we quite incentive then it's working. okay. and just as george said to me, you know, blinking shows up, you know, we have very, with very serious eyes and almost kind of poetic tone which is really irritating when children are being killed. i really grades on me. okay. with that class and

all about, but the mean, you know, then the name and then you have a turn around. it's out there. there's not going to be even a humanitarian, but there's going to be nothing. and he's in, in until a bees at the time. and his george pointed out, i can't keep track of the atrocities. it's about 3 a day. now. go ahead mark. yeah, it's just, it's distressing. he bring, can i wonder how many times blinking can do this? he's losing credibility all the time. you know, the jo damian king has said to him, look, this idea of a separate separation because an westbank is completely off the table. there's no waiting. sure thing is when it comes to the west bank, perhaps speaking to them monday it again, but it, it, the bill of the 2nd also made a comment to him that so in the, this is a little crimes. i left the 1st time an hour later the she said to the america, this is war crimes. you're committing a genocide house that they have to point out. jordan is

a nominal ally of the united states in the region. nominal. ok, good. exactly, and i, but it's, it's worried that some, that there is no surprise. see here, there's no middle ground between these is 2 extreme. false is of the fall, right when of the, of the present and come a government and a scene that you would think. but huge talk shops letting you in the, when it least provides a conference rooms to actually get these worldly design on the table to start talking about this program. because i'm like, you're crazy. you know, you have this huge groundswell of public opinion around the world against it. good it. yesterday over the weekend we saw demonstrations in dc that we haven't been servicing before, but i'm reading reports. i don't know if this is the next step. when i'm reading reports of 2000000 people on the streets and it's nice and international capital, so indonesia, you know, is running the story on the weekend. well, as any, i mean, when you 1st talked about regime change, i thought you were talking about this and you know, because i've just written, i've just written up this thing. how long is not, you know, who got, you know,

he's not a very good. he's not offended by mentor, but doesn't like politico, which is sort of uh, generally as the outfit in, in, in dc, very close to the bottom ministration. speculate to that button is already looking at all the time. beyond that, you know, who so i wonder whether that's also an issue, you know, but some, this daily slots that of children of i just want to say the quote unquote sacrificing netanyahu for a result in, in, in gauzy it's, it's really cold comfort. and it's just a fiction. you know, george, it's really interesting is that we have this neil colonial mindset still, you know, blinking it's telling, well, the jordanian, so we'll do this. the instructions will do this, you know, maybe the, the saudis, or, you know, pony of some cash. what world is he living in george? well, that's a fantasy. well, and then a lot of it is just a kind of

a public relations exercises or somehow the united states is doing something with a diploma. so, you know, we're doing what henry kissinger did, you know, 50 years ago, we're going to roll a capitals. i'm trying to put together a coalition because there is no goal they should because everyone is attending the united states that we aren't going to get involved on your behalf. it's your problem is israel is problem. you have with the 10 to 2. it can agree with that. we've talked about this non stop since 1967, of course, even before that, that particular list and 67 that this is not a viable solution. just simply ignoring the paddle, same problem as a now he says, well maybe you could, you could do something, but they're not going to do it. they, i'm not going to co operate in what is essentially the ethnic cleansing of gaza. and that they know this is what israel ones that is clearly is where this plan is to drive out of the population and then they going to ship the but primarily on

through egypt. okay. you gotta make homes to them is fine. i but secondarily onto the europeans and the americans say, now you go to cop up the money to the housing, the fee, then the creates those cities for all of these people because is where it is going to pay up anything. so that because the king of jordan and presidency see with golf role as they know that this has these rated plan and probably the u. s. plan was, well, the just say it's your problem. you know, you should have attended the years ago. you haven't listened to us, we're not going to help you out now. cuz martin is a being the united states wondering to be this, the so arbitrator of what, what happens in the middle east. and so, as george has pointed out these later, so you want it, it's your, it's your, we met, ok, you figure it out. okay. for, for decades, new a did not allow a peace process become bored. and this is where we are. you know, you know it,

you break, you break it, you own it, martin? oh, you're allowed a funny piece process to to, to run the top of it is the case which the other thing is finally got sick and died off much when they go to thomas. and, you know, it's interesting that some, what lincoln's doing, what he said, that there seems to be a little bit delusional. kind of the name of gazing from the americans. you know, that still believe that every single power in their nation, but they should be worried about the 2 political dimensions to this, which is not even featuring on the radio in a memo. anyone in turkey on out. ok, having, having secret talks with the ranges, but what to do, that's assuming, muslim country, having tools with a seat as a country. and so that when these to get together, you know, you, you might have a real problem in the recent because if anyone needs some member decides to get involved, i stopped supporting by this time what the hell the americans going to do, can we can, we can we wage war against the nature of member supposedly in defense while they

nominate somebody about how, how would that work? exactly, you know, so there's a lot of, there's a lot of lou sense to as a little confusion and blend them just doesn't know where he's going. he seems to be lost. he seems to be a kitchen, stuck up a tree. but some, the daily toner just is very worried and i, i, we swears we weren't but weren't experiencing is so of the scale. so unimaginable. but it's beyond the comprehension. i wonder what else is beyond comprehension. and the, the, with the with which really is makes a such an impoverished situation. george is that you can rattle all you want about come us and you can rabble all you want about the tragedy leap. i have so tragedy of october 7, but all is you rattle on about all of these bumper sticker slogans. children are dying in the massive scale and you can watch it live big. this is,

this is paralyzing. literally the, the, the campaign to demonize the palestinians because he can come up with all the phrases you want, but then you look at the pictures and it doesn't compute george. that's exactly right. and um, because of this, the, the magnitude of this humanitarian disaster, then bulls look at the combinations of homicide. it's understandable. people say, well, yeah, almost launched as a realism. they knew what would i have and they knew how terrible israel response would be. they knew that the palestinians with silver as a result, they acted, they're responsible, and that is partially true. on the other hand, almost has a lot of the words to this disaster. and suddenly everyone is aware of what is reality is doing of what was of what the suffering that it's imposing. so you're going to say that but how much has achieved and important objective much of the intifada. this was the same thing, but this is ridiculous. this is hope was hoping to possibly resist the is radio evasion,

but suddenly the world was aware of these way the occupation and was aware of the specific in a quality, but even the false as, as it has of is way. and essentially the civilian population that was subjected to is really rude. and yeah, i mean these massive demonstrations in love to visit a regular thing down on to dc. and then his mom is in indonesia. it just shows before the world is really becoming aware of this, and you know, this really narrative is just not working well and on top of it again because we have such a large international awareness the political leads in washington in london. and in tele vpn site, i didn't know because they do, i tell them i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on palestine. stay with archie. the

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well, to mess across stuff. you are all things are considered. i'm peter will. this is the home addition to remind you. we're discussing power. start the price, go back to america where we handle the leader of hezbollah. come out. the most highly anticipated speech on friday in georgia. i had spoken earlier. we didn't expect anything, a game changer, at least at this point. and he did not disappoint strategic ambiguity. that's what i would call it martin. you have a just make yourself, i mean, show the importance of around on a pallet that are on wheels. i mean, a lot of people on the model is thought he would come out with a, with a firm uses threat to, to is, or the west. but he didn't, i mean, it was quite delphic and placed isn't on us, on a surprisingly, you know, again,

we see again and again there run, play a cool times around knowing full implications original. we're going to, you go and alternatively, exchange is going on day. now i'm going to spell it, it was an israel, and that's spelled out and it's quite how can i say it's quite restrained, is quite so limited and both sides know exactly what they're doing besides the explanation, you know, but i don't think the americans understand the original invitations of iran and being tracked in some way around. that's what i do and they're keeping a distance. um, but the one right now is miscalculation era. i'm probably on the sides of the west . you know, i think in the middle east both palm is always the plausible deniability of those pub is always look for blank size targets, bite size strikes so they can carry out gifts one of them. i think my prediction is in the coming weeks, you're going to see a lot more is where the strikes on the radio, not hatch, but the students can serial is where the essex games and there's

a report which we passed. we've gone on with bunches whereby we've shown a picture of the russian mates the ground to air missile systems which are being transported now from us. that's too much blood and south of living. and if one of those, just one of those takes down and it's really f 60 and think about the implications of the think about where we go off to the kind of conversation that 3 of us going to be having. but i think that's unlikely. i'm going to put my neck on the book and say, i think this is what going to happen in the next few weeks. and hopefully somebody can step in and save the math is going back to my original point or from missing yahoo and how long he has, i think if by to starts to panic at a certain point and wants to avoid under vague, original compet competition. if he wants to start this thing, getting out of hand. previous presidents have the will tell them the clout to possibly remove. is there any prime ministers just by this is trent left for the

truth, but i wonder why we can do that. he may well consider it as an option just to bring in the i think it's intriguing what you're saying. but when george we've seen over the lot, particularly over the last decade display the radicalization with the money to the right in is really politics. no, obviously netanyahu is. he's toast. okay. everybody knows that he probably does too . but that doesn't mean there isn't someone to lie to me in the been waiting. okay . and because we've seen the electorate lunch very much to the right. even cut out, you know, they nominally kind of, you know, a western liberal approach. um uh is very much um uh uh, in tow right now with this radical um rhetoric punishment and ribbon so um let me, how can go, but would it be anybody any better in his replacement considering how you guys rarely politics is configured right now?

no, that's right, because the point is that when it comes to how to deal with the palestinians, they will have to do is uh home uh, son and the people that have to deal with it. be a look, there really wasn't any daylight between like a the, the rights as represented by the code. and then the liberals, as were represented by labor. they were in agreement on that issue. i mean, they, the disagreements that they have on other things such as whether it is the way it is to be just a julie stage or the issue of what to do with the quotes. that's where they disagreed. but on this question, follow that, you know, we need to break bones, we need the correct skulls. then they're an absolute agreement. so i don't think you would make very much of a difference. but i mean, i think that's, uh, it's unlikely that they go to do it, make a political change while the war is going on. i think once, once it's over, i think you had mentioned the who was gone, but i getting and i mean in the israel,

you know, however crazy you uh, you disappear for a few years, but doesn't mean you can't come back. ariel sharon exactly ariel shadow and maybe he resigned in disgrace. i mean, you know, they have the commission of the sub run should deal with a signed responsibility to him specifically that he was, you know, he was responsible and then he was back, you know, a few years later, you know, as prime minister. so you've got to bump it in this promotion, so i don't think they'll be unless you're changing. but of course, by the code, if you want to apply pressure, but i bite is not the so the person who's who's going to do is it equal to apply pressure and is it just knock it off? i mean, i don't think he can get pushed nothing they are. wow. but he can certainly say in off of this, this is just to reflect and we buy him a distraction in the united states. we're getting blamed for this. and we're setting this as a for another $911.00. that's exactly whatever i want to do to go mark me. it's very interesting and looking at the these demonstrations all around the world. oh

no that it was still on the agenda for so many people because the main stream media and the establishment, it just, we showed that the power site issue to a side like what it says doesn't they don't talk about it. it doesn't exist. that was their mentality with adults abrahams, of course. but of the martin, this is turning into bindings more internationally. okay. then in the leverage of the united states as it's the, it was to be the sole player. so you feel you break it, you own it. i mean, if this is all crashing down a failed american ladies policy of the last 50 years, martin button is serious about a 2 state solution. i mean, how does so many times before somebody leaves us, you know, but perhaps this will go to such an extreme way in force a to bait from wells legions such, you push forward for to stay solution. is he the one to put it off? i'm not sure if he has to the gravitas, but i said before,

i think he's taken as well. um down a very right talk. awesome. a little richard crunch point. when the, when, when, when america has to decide if it goes further help is really no in a, in a regional escalation. if it's something that certain point is also kind of point assessment by and says to this, no, you can no more, we can't go any further with you. that may will create the political time or intentionally, but the daughters talking about it may, will create to some sort of mentioned web, but he's ready public peanuts for media through publication lighthouse, you know, actually start looking at this. i'm completing the dimensions that you haven't done in 2 states, and there's been a real estate solution. i mean, why, why of the palestinians. um, why these 2 own plays in israel, the students, because the numbers are so high and here i don't want to stay solution. they want to get the majority votes and election and around me, but my client isn't, it's not particularly democratic. oh yeah. obviously, to me, you know,

with the time we have left the are the result of george george and i have a broadcast called the guy going. and because the pod cast to give you a lot more time we, we talk about a variety of issues and you know, we have the, the, as really representative to the united nations wearing a star of david and all delegation saying, never again. but you know, we, we all been taught, but you can't trivialize the, the holocaust. but it seems to me in this very sensitive. but it seems to me that the israeli government, under netanyahu is trivializing the holocaust and trivializing with more crimes mean invoking. dresden, for example, um, you know, you got to have the carpet bomb civilians. why can't we do that? that's the argument. unbelievably true, that's what they're pushing george. yes, it's quite an extraordinary that they want to the side the, the most probably the most painful, most embarrassing episodes of, uh, you know, british america and whatever it is, you actions in world war 2,

as example was, oh, are you going to bomb address them? yeah, but what they did is, i mean they, they, you know, they, they built tens of thousands of civilians. it was entirely driven by the need to destroy, get kill as many germans as possible at a time when the war was settled. and then lived in the yahoo were brought up this case of a school in copenhagen that was boned image of 85. the children were killed and this is somehow, oh, this is buying the animal that was justifiable. this was a for roofing episode. and even at the time, the british were embarrassed by it and, and knew that they had to do something about it and even pay compensation. it admittedly took a long time for them to do it. but at least they realized that this was just so beyond the pale, so completely on justifiable israel is citing this, right? well, you know, you did these psychotic things in what we'll do. why can't we do that?

and if this is the 3 and wherever you went with that, the check president for best picture of pablo recently a site that as an example of a we can uh essentially uh the directions into concentration guys. hopefully americans did it to the japanese. so this is now becoming a kind of a fashion western disclose. but again, what israel does is they want to play the victim where in the yellow style, never again, you know, where you know, where you know, where there's random, either jews in the streets of the land being picked on by the, you know, knobs the subs and at the same time where the, where the supervisor, you know, we, we get to do what, we're, what we want when we decide everything, you know, you know, we, we take it right on one day in the egypt, the next. so the both stories and they both look when it comes to the american public opinion, they don't in the us as football, if he's, as far as the us media comes to it's, you know, martin, but so many people don't understand because they're there and they're not in,

they're intentionally not informed is that you can't in both dress then because so much of the internet. we basically because address that, i'm being a little hyperbolic here. but because of the present we have international humanitarian law. you're not supposed to do those types of things. okay. they're not an exemplar as george. since that is something you should never do. well, him doesn't was that was a mock, especially for an example of what you saw on a now we can look back at it and use it as a reference point, but it's a, it's a very good comparison because a home and rest of the already have to know them, schools we didn't know specifically look for children, i'm bone children, homeschooled. so that's a, it's allows a comparison. but i think these talking points, you know, he always gets some wrongly always skills. the money he relies on sloppy journalist . so basically price line is to write it up, you know, because stenographers and the same thing with the reference to the artist for me.

interpretation, cuz you know that you didn't mention, there was a mistake. was there a, you know, the bombing and the 2nd level was not very accurate? you know, from the british bull nose didn't, it didn't, didn't always hit the targets executive, sometimes going to seen it went off the mark a bit, but didn't go talking points for media and nobody's really kidding themselves at this. and you know, who was worried about what crime charges next few years. and then because who runs international goals, who owns the un go? oh, i see. see, you know, really was, you know, what is going to start this again. so we notice when you, when they your opinion, an american camps, you account edged protection, you know, encourages you to go ahead with the genocide, pays for it. surprised with a weapon rate. and then as a bonus is sweet to says, don't worry, we've got you. okay. alright. alright gentlemen, i want to thank my guest america, shannon budapest, on i think our viewers were watching us here at ortiz, the next time we member across options. the

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