the, the, and welcome to all to part the comments. kira may be out of side, but it's certainly not out of mind for many medical professionals. i guess today argues that while in terms of condemning preparedness, we are in a better place than ever before. level of health security remains weak, if not chronically ill. how to make it fit or live. we're well to discuss that. i'm now joined by each bar. you adopt an indian expert on infectious diseases. dr. go, that's a great on a great pleasure for me to host your. thank you very much for your time. thank you very much to have a meeting. now it's hard to argue that call that 9 team came as a huge and oftentimes very painful shock to many of our societies. but i also heard you say that it left us with some gifts. for example, in terms of pandemic preparedness, you argue that we as a human collective are in

a better place than ever before. what do you mean by that? so basically, if you're talking about the situation, going to be slower. the last time he said he was already going to do so. uh secondly, we should be with the good news about this. the same thing again because the, because the board, the board many are the last visit. yeah. it's good that the rules on method, it is the what we so we have to come out of that and we should go to the 3rd issue there. if you just use it as part of the list that has to be part of the business, the business, and the maybe the maybe or the just so the,

the scripting view of the feel as if you are familiar with the list. you should also, yeah, i see, you should be able to for device. it's the image of the business. and secondly, that has to be done with all of this and they can do that. our gosh, i really use my house if we ever fully, uh, be serving on the bottom of the 20 the shit in the, in the, on the teachers you'll get all these things you'll be able to. cuz i heard you say in other interviews that there's still a lot of things about the call with that we don't understand at this point on to some extent. it's always the case with madison. you can never fully guarantee an outcome. even the most mundane disease is so i wonder when it comes to

understanding the underlying dynamics of this virus. what do you stand in comparison left to, let's say, a chevy aids? how much do we know and how much we do not know in, let's say, a percentage terms, the chevy, we know, what are the wireless, the wireless wireless, the wireless, we know how to shoot this, the so we just w y, the read the thinking. read all the the which everybody, we know that the, the a, that is the default of life on the 6 box. and also there's not really going the way in the life cycle. you can buy financial life, but for some i oh i says, oh you do, you have the diabetes?

i use one of the batteries that we have. oh, we do not have restrictions for people that you use that for the most just the we are sort of the call that a for example, how, how much certain deal or how much proven knowledge we have at this point it says, ready to go sizes everybody you want, oh wow we in good we're, you know, they don't, it is like a maybe other why does this have another session? so dishes are coming to life because the video size, before we call the video, the video to the so the won't get to be the they're the they give me the watch. what

will that good has starters? what the vision is there any kind of scenario or even maybe during was in the video? the yes. certainly the sort of that on the board. okay. i might be a little bit better. the visuals is the, this is what the, what the uh, the, the, uh the the, the, the digital video. so you'll need to keep the, your specific go visit. now, you should have all that to me just the message that you need to read. the somebody was going to be sure to make it as

a like yes, you said in a couple of interviews and as well as in this interview that you all know more water in about quote and you call it very and then a seasonal flu and i suppose you have your own very long professional expertise to give you that assurance, something that we let human scale hold perhaps to rely on. and i wonder if it's, you know, given all the measures, given a, given all the log downs, the dad's the m floorspace solution that our society has had to go through. or is it as natural that the coverage would still be casting such a long shadow over our societies? i mean, do you think it should be dealt with? perhaps not in a medical sense, but in a broader psychological sense, because people are still traumatized. but by what they have to go through 3 or 4 years ago. yes, of course the images i keep on getting people who don't go

in heavy r c o, regardless of the problem, there are any kind of giving you the problem. we still get to do you have a back in the us and this is oh, there will be a when people get busy. so we will just from the oregon securely during the time, we should not be good to go or any other new or existing existing conditions. so we need to go to the, well, this is the, the, the, the people who are going to be won by the people of the as well. that is the image going to be much more cdn your the choose. now i also heard you say that because the scientific community failed to explain the common core, i'll call that phenomenon in li terms that made

a motion based medicine far more popular among the population. them the evidence based approach. can you give some examples of that? and isn't that also natural? i mean the people would rely on their gods. some dietitian at a time at a time, a very high. and so going to say what is the last few years? they're really good, really good. and then you really look at alternative options, you're getting anything which is the closest, the, the kind of research, what the media, what street vision of the young day, or any of that, what is the position of the patient? is this the do you need to stop there? what are of these people the on the 17th,

the day before we go, oh, probably just ask them to use the word. does that give you the problem is that somebody gives me the people who probably read the rejections all these wrong. well the just the was the, is wrong in the wrong with what was just and this is the wrong, this for people that it was the properly, the water already. there's a lot going to be just what is wrong is wrong bit. i the, the snell. uh, speaking about the and these measures that were taken uh during the initial uh, stages of the dynamic they loved down the enforced isolation. a very sudden, very dramatic changes to have be true, a lifestyle that many people in many countries have to go through. how do you look at all of that in hindsight, and the,

what the national, the privilege of the static we should. how is that we should know several people for me. um, except for the, for the journey. oh, we just, we just bought a, you weren't the guy said godaddy is yours or the initial supposedly be just the special been there wasn't, uh we, i don't remember we started the research people the know how to reduce the video. the people are quite of the 16 just frustrated by now you are the height is still going to be somebody. okay. oh nice. is there

a by the by you know, i in the lender. so you that says everybody want to be in order to work at apple or be it was like really good. what's the, the look at all the what does it get off of the just the vaccination? off the back to the center and i think uh, i was just wondering what the normal the me the that then why we lost you lost the additional i lost. you should expect them to be a major problem like the closest don't give us the rest of the

you know, the last week and the whole body. certainly they saw in the there's a lot of the extreme cable. oh, for the time being, the only thing we have to do is to take a very short break, but let's move over this uh very conscious and very mindful advise that you are giving all of us. but we will be back in just a few seconds, stay tuned. the

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the welcome back to was a portsmouth new spar in july that an infectious disease expert from india doesn't go either before the break. we started talking about uh, pandemic preparedness and you said that at least one an on, on national levels is a relatively well organized right now. and they call it a 19 scare help us to pull our logistics together. but i also heard you say that in terms of a global health security that is have various various nations act in times of uncertainty and how they balance that own needs versus the needs of your mind is as a whole. this is a very uh we can vulnerable spots. can you expand on that? what do you mean by that? of the security seems to be going back to me that i should have the back to get

that it started the purchase that used to be one of the these are the new shop. so you the see that's interesting. that's the the so they don't take off the humanity of or what the do you give it to your money? you might want to get people. but at the same time, think about this before i send it back and then we'll do that said you want to go on the same day. we started exploring other people and that is the best way to the architectural go back. but they saw us just give you the job and the get go to the i somebody by the name of the day. so the me the that

the, the, you know, by the lady was really, really well the guy who is each other. i think here we go to the use, the, the, the problem that we all are in the i can offer them go to the shoes or what the we should be. that is the 2nd. i wonder if um we can talk a little bit about the world health organization, which has this huge bureaucratic body that is supposed to be dealing with the global health security concerns. and the other thing, what they call that 19 has demonstrated as the base organization is quite prone to foreign influence says or. 7 selfish influence, as i would have been saying, do you think we still should attach our hopes for improving global health security onto the search barrel, critize bodies,

or whether perhaps we should try and look for other ways you know, going nationally like india has done and do providing lots of affordable, sometimes even free vaccines to poor countries or perhaps doing within other platforms like breaks where countries come together on a, on a will basis rather than being forced into competition the to do you have to rush the rush or not all of them use it on much more do this or to the visuals to go to the water where this will probably do that very well. why does this guy here today? if we want him to was calling just a little bit of a while? the oldest is just going to be

the d o. so you want to go back to the, you know, a bunch of bottles, the instruction. so 1st option, well, the cost and get everybody use. the 1st option is you're the, you're why the people, the, the, the, the, the, the, or the, the, they should have been more responsible, maybe. uh, initially you mean the, the uber or the reduce the, the, the, this is the biggest,

i strongly agree on this style deputy of your community. your policies of water by the way, the. ringback given that you are from india and you are somebody who opened in this 1st age, every clinic, i want an owner in this and the wireless contribution to global house, not only during the call, but 19th, endemic by providing vaccines to other countries, but also through all the h a v h been damaged by providing anti retroviral therapy to millions of people around the globe, but very, very high, low cost level. sometimes that's less than one percent of the international cost. and this is amazing. i mean, i think this shows that the treatment can be provided to humanity without going broke, but why them? it has not been achieved up until now. if you look at the

g p, o, 80 bucks in the energy, the you didn't want to say any ever since i saw the best you don't want to pursue. but with the, the what the actual cost, the cost is higher. what is the actual cost? you're looking for to see the quality for all the web vision, of course, and the sure you got all the dollars the get the $50.00 for the data data for this was that is you don't want people to get it. yeah, we need to give this, they're both the should work better. i'll tell the same people that will give them the corner or vision the, the patient i or the patient by

the, by the problem, this is barbara, this is the and the issue here, sir. what is the fees for the vision with the your all the bill i see the order and the service order and the use the same idea, the as well. if i want to, i go back, i still want to be sure. the you, it is by the, by the, the, the, the, the would like, what are the people in the others. so you should be the love a side step

a little bit here and return to something that you said before that do you believe that a chevy aids at this point is uh easier to manage than diabetes. that is uh, in a way more preferable disease. it even though back in the 99 as it was considered uh, almost uh, uninsured death sentence. do you think we will ever come to a point where you might need to really be h a v, a 3, and if so, um how long to wait for that marvelous they see. uh, we have uh maybe get started by the 30 or if it's already the session or intention go, i should even go very far. they've got to go back to the engine over. do not want to do and so long a section like this. as soon as you get the, everybody gets distance. what do you live in the world there? the do we get the,

the, the full section, the just with a lot of the wire from you, sir, is you get the you're the just yes sir. interesting. i know the of your dissertation was focused on sexually transmitted infections among unix intersects a sexual and trans people, which seems like a fascinating topic. how is researching the transmission patterns within those groups relevant for the population of large? you said the might be such as $198226.00 that nobody wanted to follow. what do those thoughts x was the size of the amenities of their apartment c, as a, b, d, u i the they, the united states. they're not even closer to all the younger

i've been to minute another 6. well the, the, the, the, the, i really wouldn't be the boss. but what i read the be, i just saw. there's some do usually done it or the there. i don't think i don't think or do more than what are being there, or i'm just finally coming to these the or the date for folks on deluxe. if i'm a very quickly, uh, i want to also sites on statistics for our viewers that i took from your research. you said that when it comes to a, to the prevalence among migrants, it's 4 times higher than within the general population among inmates and female sex workers. it's 9 times higher among men who have sex with men, 16 times higher among chunk, gender people 8 and the times higher. and many people who use drugs, 40 sleep time hire. how do you think are those what is driving the back to her off a transmission?

because all those groups of all noble but it seems to be that the sort of the degree of the ability is the different among them. i think it wouldn't be so as i give a bias, so these kind of bottom list amenities by the biotech. this what if you're into the, the, the, the big topic. if somebody is, i was actually a 100 bucks into the living people are probably 40 or the business of the the due to the other issue. just like i said before, really or i are single way of been doing the do with the 6 will get there. you know, there is a way to do that today. yes. so we need to decide to be the one the use. oh, we love the community,

the in the are there the and the full the we should never want to see the easy, the manager of the certainty or the, the actual thought or not the way my people. i created a special offers the, the dollar on the destination and the businesses. and if i'm a, what my problem is, this is the last question. but i still want to ask him because shame is a, is a major force that is driving discrimination. but also as a social emotion is sort of so it is sometimes very helpful in discouraging um,

harmful or add to social behavior. have you figured out how to get rid of discrimination without so sort of legitimizing, uh, consciousness. uh not being behaviors like addictions, like drug use, etc. the say, did you use it or do you want to use it easy on because i'm just sending the the other doctor to see the data. you see the need of i'm not shared with others. the my job is the department that others will, james, which i was full. she can only get the job the job with instructions. do we need to look at the idea in the solution before the 6 for the when i was in,

but i guess jennifer region, but really just for your vision of migration, the just the i just don't be so we shall see a scholarly wow. well doesn't go that it's been a fascinating conversation. thank you very much for everything that a year and you've been doing for all of your life and for sharing your thoughts with us today. thank you very much and thank you for watching. i hope to see her again when it was a part of the, [000:00:00;00]

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