well, that's all i guess. i know we monitor is the signer. israel will be conducting for our pause. it is, it is a tax on gaza and this was negotiated with the white house. however, this proud year says they want a ceasefire. now they want an end of us tax fair money going to support israel. and on top of that, they would like to see israel grant rights to the palestinian people. now it appears there is a police car in the area that's been scraping and, and, and it says, uh, it says free guys of the pro. jeff is winding down at the headquarters of the new york times a widely rad media outlet in the united states. the protesters are calling out the new york times for having blood on its hands for having biased coverage. covering up is really atrocities. there was a group of people that did answer the new york times building. they have a lab, so it's been quite a rally. thousands of people coming out to call out israel for it's atrocities

against the palestinians. call for a ceasefire. call out us taxpayer money for continuing to fund is really crimes. support for palestinians seems to be growing across the globe in kenya, low cost of taking to the streets, quoting for swift, international action to solve the ongoing violence in garza video footage. those kinds waving palestinian flags charging for you palestine and holding. sonya is that we, tenure substances with palestine demonstrate, just pulled on the government to officially is done with thousands on the west to stop packing as well as what one of the protesters had to send. we are here in solidarity with our brothers and sisters in palestine. whatever has been happening is totally wrong. and the easy way to start doing innocent people to the children they are not given access to the basic necessities side. we're demanding the whole can't answer while from the top leadership support palestine, what do we need along less as flew showing up at israel,

must stop the skewing immediately the sort pencil to see innocent blood being shed . it's very wrong for other nations like america and britain to keep supporting israel. a good patient stop is at one slip. and if they don't find it, we're going to demonstrate again tomorrow and for many days to come. this was just to rehearsal, as you can see, the police are here to disperse. somebody who shall keep on demonstrating, and no one should interfere with our peaceful protest unless, unless you alexis all to international thinking about how is the latest episode of cross talk. and i'll talk with more news in 30 minutes. the the,

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the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome across ok, we're all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says he and vision sitting definite is rarely occupation of cause after the war, as if the longstanding blockade is not an occupation. this goal tells us a lot about the war being waged on guys that it's a war of displacement and ethnic cleansing the prospect in palestine. i'm joined by my guess eve angler, in montreal, he's a canadian foreign policy institute fellow, a journalist and author, and in lisbon. we crossed to alexander guerrero. he is international legal analyst, all right,

to them in cross lock rules and effects. that means you can jump any time you want, and i always appreciated it. let me go to you 1st here. let's just talk about the recent events here. we had a anthony blink and the us secretary of state, i suppose, trying to imitate henry kissinger with his shuttle diplomacy. but all he did was humiliate himself and his president joe biden. why in the world, with any of his interlocutors in the middle east and the region at large be want to become a come completion to be in join in and being involved in the ethnic cleansing of the palestinian people. i mean, they don't want this, they, you know, they have a lot of problems. they don't want to go down in history is a helping is really not in the states but destroyed the gaza strip eve. yeah, and that's what they told the blinking verdict on in turkey didn't even bother showing up for the, for the meeting. do you know, do you know who did show up the, the deputy mayor of this then bowl game that was the person that greeted them. i'm

sorry, the rep keep going. and so i mean, they understand exactly what the us is doing, which the us, which is completely supporting israel's a slaughter and guys of that, you know, around $5000.00 children have been killed. and basically what he wants to do is to get as much acquiescence to this in the region as possible. i don't think he believe that there was, he would get the different leaders to, you know, the salute. his is his diplomatic of backing those of israel. but he wants to at least minimize the criticism of, you know, i don't think it was successful. i think that clearly the governments in the region to see what's happening and, and they realize that their populations in their country are absolutely appalled by while we are all seeing coming out of gaza. and so they only, you know, as much as they are under some of washington. uh like the country like jordan they at some point they have to listen to their population to

a certain extent. but it's, it really is just absolutely direct us complicity and all of the horrors that israel's is causing you know, this announcement just yesterday is another $320000000.00 in us weapons. we're going to be said to uh, to israel, to, to use against the population in guys a, obviously there's $14000000000.00 of a, a, a package that's been uh, that's out there. and, and, you know, all this diplomatic squarely blanket has now made 3 different trips to israel, in, in, in, under a month to completely endorse this just, just on slot against the, against positive. what it, you know, they use the word humiliation. i mean, yeah, we're standing basically side by side and blinking is called calling for some kind of uh, humanitarian pause, you know, more aid and then right next to them,

the prime minister base of it. nope, there's not going to be any of that. i mean, just insulting your guest. okay. and then blinking just stood there and took it. let me shift over to how exactly are we had men? yeah. who said again, blatantly contradicting the secretary of state blinking saying that, um uh, israel will control the security a reoccupied gaza after the conflict in the us administration and said that's not what they're angling for, but the israelis don't care. so in, again, another humiliation the united states is not leading. okay? if it was waiting, it would do it, it always did. and go back in history and look at it every single time they said there has to be a ceasefire. not this time. alexander, they are father, actually from leading any kind of political solution worldwide. we can see this and you can reach and say, for example, from the situation in ukraine, we started, we witnessing death and also now we,

the situation is right now what we are in fact, witnessing presently is yes, a new re shipment of the global, new new order the new global order making a new realignments that show and highlights the interest and better power. broad and finding out of the usual fordable circle of power that we are used to. it is, for example, united states and the you, they have absolutely no influence whatsoever in the situation in the me, the lease. so what we see is, for example, 3 key doing this patient that you already mentioned, but not only to get also the arab states, for example. the fragility of the united states find policies in my opinion, quite heavy then from the fact that it's not only blinked and went to the me, the lease with nothing to walk her. but she also returned home with nothing to deliver to july. the 1st she tried to find a way, actually to bring about the seats buying these right out with these rail and pay

them. secondly, he also wanted to find a long term plan, a solution in the region, but the other countries denied the support of this and there was no effort to respect the right to self determination of the policy and people. and finally, she claimed to wish to prevent the spread of the conflict to the entire region, but she need not attempt any abroad still either on or to has the lot in the lab and on, or even the window or stand, whether it's like that would be through mental lives in the future. she's meeting with momma that box for example. it was quite embarrassing because yeah, we would love to find one single point when both were the green ways and my mom was i wasn't the fact that i was actually kind of a bad that's blinked and was trying to use and to make, in order to have at least an actor that's good, a friend who lives more and more how much. and she still felt so indiana, i believe that it cannot help, but to conclude that blinkers of dance were

a failure and they actually show that expose the complete lack of a larry lack objectivity. that is not exactly a policy, rather, there is an attempt to protect these real interest at all costs and to pretend that such interests are actually the main goal of regional solution. yep. well, and anthony blinking and his father actually, or i are deeply steeped in the design, is cause inside the united states. so hence when, when blinking arrived the 1st time he said i come here is a do which tells us a lot because we know, well who is interest? are you representing here? okay, was very odd thing for a secretary state to say, you know, he, one of the interesting things also is that the entire region, you know, and we can fault the so many of the arab states for not being more outspoken about the palestinian cause over the decades, but they make, well, they made it very clear to the united states is a new created this with this real. you should solve it. why are you,

why are you wanting us to solve a problem that you made? you shut out early. all other players. you basically neutered the piece of the palestinian authority. it's your problem. why should anyone helped him out? he yeah, well i think that what they should do is they should resist us pressure to, to normalize with israel, so long as it's not even a motor come of justice for, for the policies. this isn't just the us problem with your member. of course, most people and as a, are refugees that refugees from design is ethnic cleansing, and $194748.00, which comes right out of the un partition plan, which is very unjust. a plan of basically pushed on palestinian so. so the root of this is actually goes back to the british imperialism in the region and the balfour declaration and ethnic cleansing of the 4748. but certainly, you know, in recent decades the us government with government like my, my own,

the canadian government have, have been basically supporting this highly corrupt wordpress of positives already. but that is, is not, you know, basically acquiescing to israel's ongoing settlement expansion in the west bank. and i, i consider the fact that a boss net was blinking. that's what we'll shoot a stain on a boss. i mean, this is a joke, this idea of a 2 state solution that the us is now going to now they start talking about, you know, the, they, they weren't, weren't talking about it at all uh before october 7, because now if you're talking about it, but they talked about it as a way to sort of like, oh, you know, what is us doing the 10000 word. it's going to be much more than $10000.00, but the already $10000.00 killed. you know, there's going to be sort of a silver lining at the end, and that would be a 2 state solution. and you know, the p a was we'll be able to take control of, of, of gaza. and this business they're talking. we are good actually of canadian special forces on the ground and is more and more stories including from the lead,

the national coast, national paper here saying that communicating forces should be part of a post is really going on. so i don't get as, oh my god, i do it. did anybody in canada ever will that anyone in canada have a chance to vote on something like that? but it's just the sanity, let me, we were actually coming to the break here. i'll alexander basically this at the same questionnaire is because, you know, you, anthony blanket is saying, who should role in gaza? well, what about self determination? i mean, you know, it's really, i mean, and that us supported the election back back in 2007, 2006 and little and her mom's got elected. the u. s. government actually paid for that election. now they want to reset the table and decide who's going to rule and gods alexander. well, they are actually making the exactly the same mistakes as 0. israel did into 1980

when they tried to legitimize how much, you know, the friends allies and that'd be good and was more powerful organization in palestine. so now they are trying to choose another actor on who they wish to invest. all that not pulling their money, but also they're at a diplomatic efforts. and at the same time, they are expecting that the palestinians will only accept any kind of solution that comes from washington. so they are repeating over and over and exactly the same mistakes. and they are absolutely both thing in jeopardy, the risk of the chance of having the 2 state solution they don't believe, you know, it's just a solution because when what kind of solution will they chose, bye bye. and by knowing the pressure, i believe that the 2 state solution would only be possible if united states were interested in force, insulating israel, and forcing the country's government, whether the lab by benjamin that's on you or mike, any other leader to retreat? well, alexandra,

all i can say is don't hold your breath thumbs out one. okay. alright gentlemen, we have it. we're approaching a hard break. and after that break, we'll continue our discussion on power side. stay with our team, the

. the the welcome across the dock were all things are considered. i'm funeral about your mind. you were discussing palestine. the okay, let's go back to even in montreal. so as we approach the breaker, alexander was talking about the prospect of a 2 state solution. when those words passed through them, blinking smiles and i just thought you've got to be kidding me. you've got to be joking because the u. s. has backed up is really a very right wing government to the last 10 years to make any kind of accommodation . impossible. as a matter of fact,

that's one of the reasons why and shame on the world's shame on all of us. i would say they'd let the palestinian issue fade away into it blew up again in october of this year. so i mean, if they're really serious about it and there's no indication that his release of ever including the current prime minister has ever been interested in that blinking it's just blowing smoke. i mean, he's buying time. i don't know what he's doing. he i think he's providing cover for, you know, genocide on policies being waged against us citizens and gaza. and we also know not just in guys, i mean is a 160, i think prostate has been killed in the west bank over the past month as well. so. so there is increasing is really of vitamins and settler violence in westbank that, you know, as further ensuring that, that, uh is you know, any sort of policy, the state is, uh, is less than less of a possibility. um, this is, this is a diplomatic cover. this is uh, you know, there's the,

the national security advisor provided who, who published the piece and foreign affairs that came out 2 days before october 7th was all about how, you know, the middle east is quiet. yeah. yeah. and it is not, not a mention of the 2 state solution that it's amazing. take sullivan still has, has a job, i mean, talk about failing upward. sorry. again, i interrupted, you keep going. know, but i mean that's the, that's exactly it is that they have forced the, what i'm asked it, whatever you want to say about that it has forced, at least the rhetorical shift from the us government. now i, i don't believe it serious and i clearly don't believe that the, the current is really government and even those sitting in the opposition are, are, are, are serious, serious about a 2 state solution. the only way this would happen is if there's a, would you related push up the road, the air of world, that there's the international solidarity campaigns in europe,

in north america. and, and that the us government starts ending this incredible level of financial diplomatic contribution to israel. and that's the only way that you can come to a motor come of, of justice reprocess. but what we're actually see is that discussion being mostly a cover for a genocidal policies. you know, alexandra before we started our program here we were talking a and i pointed out to you that it's no surprise that the g 7 foreign ministers meeting in tokyo, completely back the american position, talked about the humanitarian pause. whatever that means, it means nothing to me, certainly doesn't mean anything to people in gaza and that they were against the ceasefire. but it's really interesting that the g 7, the, the pinnacle of the neo liberal world is juxtaposed to just about everybody else. what does that tell you? and by the way, why don't you throw in the ukraine angle if you can?

well, actually what this means is the, i'm going to repeat what i mentioned that's plus what i said at 1st, which was, we are, that's one of the reasons why why we are witnessing to a new re shaping off the global order. we are starting to watch the new and new emergence of new points of power, our sense of power. for example, if we think of the keys position, if we also think of the out of position, we see for example that, that other countries are given to despise blankets containing the region. and we see also that united states find policy continues the spat all these credit thing, among not only other countries, but also among other voices from both from continental and regional powers that are raised more and more against the united states. and not even united nations, secretary general and so on you. but there's, we've always passivity regarding give drawings abuses where he was able to avoid

taking the 1st steps on a guess easily. also, indian, what we actually watch is that we have several actors that don't have any kind of foreign policy agenda towards the, the global community as a whole. they just want to follow the footsteps off united states. and when we think about the power and it was by then was able to achieve, we build this and conditional support, not only tweets rail, but also to your brain. we say for example, new can you and you. and we also live on that lion supporting all the same rule and all the same points that's by the defense. but one of the consequences is that we haven't cost a lot of independence of the united states suffering bodies as at least the idea remains. the most of the congress and the president of the united states are totally don't mean. busy aided by not only is a split to go into konami, cancel these, but also, for example, what do you think of the international criminal court which actually revealed was

and for all this, if it is, if it works like a proxy off the united states and at the same time you're viewing union against other focuses and other actors and powers that do not abide with your there's mentioned during sale or by the by washington. what we see is the total completion fee we'd what's happening in the fall this time at the same time, we don't get the rest of this happening in your brain and they don't have a way out. not only to leave your brain, at least on the clean exit, but also concerning the bell to stand up. for example, the recent declarations of the bedroom units and you all come on and saying that he will stay and that we will witness to an indefinitely doctor patient. and someone must, must talk about the yellow front of the room. and seeing that this is, inc dash, actually any fashion of the fact that the territorial expansion of the bins, i mean it's on, you know, and the same happens concerning your grain because even towards the policy of the

great, everybody was completely present landscape. no one there to say, you'll have to start these thoughts with the russia. so if you don't want to lose your entire country and even to lose our own respect and could you mail it to? yeah, well that's when you hook your wagon to the, to the west like that. this is what you get here. you know, ease, uh, you know, this administration and watching and they really love, you know, the rules based order and all that, you know, and it's already been pointed out here a nano 2nd after the conflicts started in ukraine, the i, c, c went into action, but where are they for a guys? ok, they do have jurisdiction over the palestinian territories, but it shows like kind of rank of popular see here. and it's very obvious. i mean when blinking talks about human rights abuses in what every country that he is opposed to. it's going to be hard to take him seriously. i do. it's always been

hard to take him seriously. it just got a whole lot worse if a. yeah, for, for uh, brain kids from ukraine to russia that was led to charges itc, killing 5000 children and guys, uh, no home from the i c. c. um so, so the, you know, the hypocrisy of that is clear. uh and its been clear for a long time, but this is exposing and the whole world knows this. right. and it should actually say it's not just the whole world of global so, but it's actually increasing proportions of the population with in canada, the us. yep. and i think probably european countries that also see just how, obviously hypocritical they are. i mean, the international law discussion on, on ukraine, they were of, they pumped up of that about a lot. but the cities have international law on the side. that's very clear. i also want want to mention is about the g 7 the, the canadian foreign minister, g 7. you know, she put out a treat last night where she talks about, you know, we're all in favor of israel destroying guys. um we're,

we're all united with ukraine and then, and it was like, we're all pushing for peace and in the pacific region, of course, a code word for actually we're all trying to yeah, stuck a war with china uh over taiwan or potentially. so i was trying to see, and this is where this is where they are. i mean, this is what, like the canadian foreign ministers going along with this. this is a, this is totally insane. a geo political kind of a project of you know, will, will just hold for war everywhere. and this is, this is where it is. the leadership of, of the g 7, the nato, and obviously led by, like, by washington. uh are, you know, uh, alexandra, one of the more incipient elements of what's going on. and i'm glad he brought up about how public spiel and the west about that criminal. you know, you know, everybody knows i'm a conservative. so conservative is an american saying free speech, free speech. it's always they liberals that are always crushing creepy. now now, on this issue there crush a free too much speech. if you're,

if you're pro palestinian your pro hum us what. okay, this is what they're doing. so this issue not only complicates and, and goes against international law, it goes against basic principles like freedom of speech. go ahead, alexander. yes. and if you want to speak about international law and violation of international law, well, let's 1st start with the direct is something that the nation and by don't cheer. absolutely no one in the west, not only in united states, but also in your in union. for example, mentioning the right to something every nation of the most you need be fully, it's and it has been violated for at least a century. after the ball court exploration. it has been over and over being repeatedly violated, but not only that, but also if we think about the sacraments policy that is actually being pursued by not only presently, but for decades by these riley power, with the complicity of the western powers. we watched basically and presently that

for example, nathaniel's goal is to follow exactly the same policy that these rail already has for the west bank with the logistics position and spread of several months. and social cont. busy for the territory that slowly asserts itself and actually being israel and, and not just sign of this, is are the efforts not only to push the palestinian population into egypt, but also the clear policy. what we call here, for example, it's only in portugal. booking several, either buick and countries. this is a policy all flip things together, straight that is being pursued in order to eliminate any kind of just a license of system there. so i have alexander, let me jump in here, let me give you the last 30 seconds. we're running out of time. go ahead. the last 30 seconds on your on sunday in calgary, a organizer for the demonstration was arrested for leading a chad from the river, tennessee. palestine, will you a, there's this push to even make the policy and slay

a hate symbol. some of these right wing are a national post call. this whole push to suppress a discussion. and that's because they know full well that people are doing something they see the images of children being being slaughtered in gaza and they're not ok with it. and that, and that's the right human response. and so, so there's a real effort to suppress. uh well i, i really like how you say that's the right human response, and that's why we have to be, we have to be a moral compass. the let that come out naturally gentlemen. that's all the time we have. i want to thank my guess in montreal and elizabeth and course i want to thank

our viewers for watching us here at r t c. and next time remember prospect the, [000:00:00;00] the, the big images from northern goza is, is well formed. 3 hospitals, with thousands of civilians and taking shelves and killing at least 20 we have from an all see reports on the ground who witnessed one of the the