can you dismiss, please from not just the un secretary general that agencies, human rights lawyers and the people started golly as forward against imperial was all his life. no less to play right. tv and film produce the historian, friend of the late june, 11th, and celebrated in the rolling stones as street fighting many joins be from london, its web tens of thousands on the streets to end the nation nation on bombing off casa tag. thanks so much for coming back on the bus today. i know it was a week or so ago, but to tell me why you are celebrating the institutionally corrupt. i think there was a role in the recent report and it's usually races. famously, a scotland yard today as a much for peace. miss willow, charlotte slow to every day that one has to say in public, that's fine gold. we have a police case, metropolitan police commissioner who refuses to accept extremely rash and its pre missed advice from the home secretary as well. uh,

a bravo. uh and uh it's, it's fantastic, but the police have done this because they know a, they don't monitor off on going anywhere near the send that job be the send that off events would be over and see it's impossible to stop because they're predicting nearly half a 1000000 people to be present. today we will get the comp, but it was a crazy attempt to stop it tonight. i'm very glad people are out on the streets. yeah, one of the front lockers fronts tried to ban the demonstration van the united states, of course, has that constitution which guarantees the right to demonstrate. but i suppose when you'd mentioned these british politicians, it may not be no, no around the world. why is it that politicians, van politicians in west and europe learn politicians in the united states seem to echo what i asked professor, you learn pop a on last week, show the echo,

the lack of compassion for the people of cause of what, why is this when i picked them up as a berkeley, it's very clear as for a very long time now and even more so after the iraq war, which was a disaster for them, decided to back the united states and every single thing. and sometimes they say it openly, we've gone on for those seeds fire unless we get the green light to do so from the united states. i, if, when the united states does that, we will, we will follow them. so they behave on the television screens. and in the media, in general, is people who don't care about anything. i mean, how can you remain inside that when you see houses and thousands of people being killed over the last few weeks, so can you and style my the lease. so go lead off the opposition just as bad is the

prime minister. and lots of dave about the counsellors are resigning from the labor party in. busy sort of for instance, late but has lost its majority on the come. so because of style, most positions on god. so it's one thing they had never felt that there won't be another form resistance that it will take on the q a stature in the world. and that is really what not to be seen is the victim, but the palestinians. and this they haven't guaranteed for they thought it was over . mention you how going to the united nation, some kind of map of the, of to buy it west bank and gaza and saying this is bob of the map of his room. that's how arrogant this far right. the government to me is ready to go up and the united states refused to stop it. they went alone with this because the only power

in the world who could stop is through, within a 24 hours as the united states. when there's a leak on the line and they've done it before, i've sent you recall in 1957 when is read 1st occupied casa preston dies in the hall, who was the president and asked them to get up. they've been there for, for. ready months they've proved barricade to the deeds phrase on the sanctions. within a few weeks, there are outro casa, so there's a very dependent on the united states, despite these resulting. and it's the pentagon and white of say, we need you get out quickly, they will do the low some that they want me to is mean, if they didn't, they'd be printing them that from create a new crisis in is right. and then bring back in young. well, i, as in the outcomes up by, in a, in a question i will ask you more about the, the us s eisenhower a warship being sent to actually,

rather than what happened in the 1950s. is there a real blow back tension between the people versus the leads that run these countries in western europe? i know with vietnam, harold wilson didn't do what the united states wanted them to do as regards vietnam, which you of course, suppose they must be in the sixty's today. i mean, the whole, the west of new york is on inside, firmly with washington is foreign policy. and yet the people seem completely out of step with that lead is this coats and these are bringing in boats and brick. now for the last 4 weeks of jones, 70 percent in favor of an immediate cease fire, which is huge. so what his affecting is that democratic functioning in the western countries, the u. n. b, u k, is being affected because what they're saying to their own people is we're going to

carry on doing this. the people say we with the girl consent from you for doing this. and this thing we don't get. so we'll see what happens with it'll be published in the election. so people will of football. but it's noticeable now on every single european country, including france and germany, that a band, the demonstrations look up most of being forced to step back. and let me do extend stations every read brooklyn has been amazing on this. and that's partially because we set up the stop the we'll go live from them. but by this time some of the barricade campaign is being in action for a long, long time. and they could mobilize very falls look just in london, where they will be huge demos and a huge demos, but in a provincial capital, in, in glasgow, in manchester and god is elsewhere, large numbers of people have come up with 2 countries in your that are exceptional

us spin and i'm and which of come up for immediate sign and a cabinet minister in spain has gold phone data now to be arrested by the criminal colton, charged with the war. crimes of the arab was, of course, we know is a disaster story as far as the rules are. before we go onto the magic uh, we'll call you said you might have to say of the queen of georgia. she has spoken of very effective which again, salt is going on and goes on 4 months to the. okay. but uh, given how much uh, we'll know about the propaganda model and our best wishes to know. i'm from ski, i understand he's not well at the moment. how is it this conscious this about what is happening in gaza? the palestine question itself has a, is there in western europe and the united states if the so called israel o b,

which involves music advance celebrities were coming out from palestine. but that's going to stop some celebrities coming out for its influence on publishing, on literature on. as i said, music on film, how is it the public know what's wrong and what's right you as well. there are 2 reasons for this, in my opinion. and the existence of non western media, i would say i would just say rise between both on this front that you have known west and television stations, both in europe in the middle east. i'm in china. you know, the chinese boat cost as do, which are showing different images. some that's very important. which is why wouldn't blink come recently when to cut that. he also got the really does to control bring no jersey or on the control. but they, they don't even want to do it and they don't to go to see your eyes. so the jewel

in the crown of these gulf states, whether they like it or not. so i just eat her as being important. maintenance has to be an important alternative images coming in from the bathroom fields which are very different from what has been shown by the b, b, c and i tv channels. and such. kimberly, even the young know the base something deeply on just about the treatment of palestinians by the is really the deals side. holocaust effect is wearing off steak on to use that cynically as they did for many, many decades. and the proof of that as in these amazing demonstrations by young american jewish kids during pro, by this thing, by most calling for a ceasefire off coupon in grand central station. or to find the lobbies of the house of representatives. that's very mostly so when their own people simple,

they took for granted, like the young, jewish population of the united states are all fairly sizeable chunk. also start operating like this, then there is reason for them to panic because it means you've gone. depends on this for me to my stronger because it doesn't stop the mainstream news channels, corporate news channels, no mainstream talking about isis. i'm comparing, i'm off to ices. i mean, do you think there are similarities between the u. k. u. s. west and your b. you have high, so it's given, they're all being the bombing of gaza rather than have us getting by devices. um the link so fee is done. crazy guy says, i mean in terms of our policy that we see the images and seemingly the hospitals being blown up and then ends and the blinking then the snack controlled saying we've got to not have a ceasefire. i know what i mean the,

the reason they don't want to see side because it means a function confrontation way and that, and you know, when is government and the blaming of how much, that's a big thing. genius, who i mean, you know, this is not enrolled at started on october, the 7th. this as a role that has started many, many decades ago. and october. the 7th is just one phase of the will liberation movements act according to their own, with their own strategies. those and solo dyer came with the palestinians, gone justified everything down that they don't need to box. they are their mom and what we are demanding is a fan and just settlement competitive stein. and that means really does mean that the set flows on to buy these ready government. we now know i'm going to create

a man where the on the west bank has to be booted out. that's the basis for an assessment date. the set plus back to your box off uh uh, is written otherwise. how can they ever get an independent state which in any event the may make them, you know, government damage spring to assess those have no really interested in grunting at all. they sold that, hide it in the bag, and then october, the 2nd problem, which was a big strategic blow for them. don't underestimate that on the golf. say, no, we're good to know how most of the areas. no, this is going on with these big demonstrations. very few people are saying how much is to blame, even though people attack the uh, the way in which they don't with the uh, the boats and etc. but no one serious is saying they are the own. so please accept

the if the government still exists and bro government media in the west because everyone knows smoke true tire cali. i'll stop you. the more from the renowned writer whose latest book is winston churchill, his times his crimes. after this break, the the you know, probably maybe you say the week monday or is cisco web shows or some are used to work your way. and i've

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welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with the new left reviews, tire golly, start. we were talking about, i don't, toby, the 7th and history, not beginning of october. this happened during this story and as well, you know, how important it is. that's the powerful often try. do we raise history? do you think the japanese own financial times recognize that when they compare the resistance movements about assuming resistance movement to the event and then these resistance move, but i don't think whether they understood that the means actually one that for that is that why these riley's are not going in and then ground defensive as a so called military analysts on. so go mainstream media have been telling us for weeks. these really is don't want to lose too many of the searches action. this is a way is being a big priority for is right, the number of people of jewish origin overdues they can keep in is right and losing even 11 prime is to said decades that goes into many. so when they say this

is the, was crisis since the holocaust, that's rough. expedite certainly is the worst crisis since 1948 and been met about when there was a resistance lead luxury. and unfortunately the by arab monarchs and kings on the british control. and it didn't work, so the, that is the fact, so they try and cover for their losses, and for them to go in and try not to buy the whole of casa, and as slightly cleanse or genocide and the stadiums want to lease a grant, a conflict i think, despite that talks with the united states, the secret of the radians would not be able to the principal, the out effect conflicts because you know, has been done not just during the and stooges, they are also

a major political force in lebanon. so once you have the war being expended by these riley's troops sending him that wrong me in taking godsa effectively, it won't stop there. and some of the most serious is really general serenity to aware of space. they won't say it's been said off to the ro tie out, which is the way they do it. but um that's i think is a, is a why they're delaying this because, you know, i'm us. and it said lives in because i have been prepared for this. they didn't do this thinking you put on go away suddenly. they have for bed for the long hole while it's definitely center stage of game when it was thought to have been forgotten. we could jake sullivan, national security adviser, claiming that be said being brought to the middle east, a few weeks before i grew up with the 7. what on these u. s. s. warships aircraft carrier?

i mean, also, israel was the united states, as eric, rav carrier recruiting secret documents. what is the eisenhower in the general for doing these images draining? what i mean, the function is to 8, so shopped across the about to the radians to say, to the uranium. let's look here. we are. if the uranium state intervenes in any way, which by the way, i think is extremely unlikely. but we're here to defend is true, but also it's the same to has the way here. and if you know, going to this for trying to help the palestinians, you have us to deal with what the americans are set this before. and one of the biggest assess that's actually was in the left and them as some decades ago when an entire marine bass in the country was blown up. so it's made the more careful so

they can say this, they can destroy countries. but in a hand time fighting and come on those and marines on the ground, it's not at all show, old way. venmo has fuller. i mean, they can do as far as having them from the i mean get destroyed. many countries full thoughts of many cities in that way, but it will then make things difficult for those or line to the united states. i mean, on the one hand, the united states have been trying very out the to try and get so solve the, solve the ready be a and others that will reduce the director's license. right? this is hold to that process. i mean, even in the matter of the increase they're considering whether to maintain relations with his or the south african. so i sent to the investor the back, i am lucky american countries, 3 or 4 have broken off relations. so it's not going well on that level. so they

have to bands, as in mind, because they've already, the ukraine saying isolated them with the, the, as far as the so most concerned legal, india, which is very pro the united states, refused to back sanctions against russia as did most of africa. and many of the country so that, that showed to be divided between the old and press and colonial boss. and the rest of it was, this thing will be big because if they ask and they go, if they use american troops, don't bang come c. c to baby a lot because he kept is in a rage at the moment because of what's going on in reggie gave an aid in the way of present and by them have you ever heard of an egyptian president since egyptian independence refusing to meet the sitting you as president, i think the reason for that is that they will objections from others. the

jordanian king was very angry and he said he was the 1st to say, i don't want to sit down at the table with these people and then it became difficult for the others to say no, but we're happy to sit down with them. i know me the other day, a boss this public president of the, by the stand in no authority uh will, shaking hands with blink. i mean the shameless, the, the business to noon and authority. and that's the other side which we haven't discussed, i've shown, is that the fracturing of the resistance of to the also called was a few below for palestinian liberation. and despite repeated requests from within his own rides, a bus refuses to go mean be a huge difference. and i'm, and i probably was the president of the piano and not to this own guide was gets,

you know, plump i'm blown, buys the money, get the balls and building around homes and houses, ignoring the needs of the palestinians because operating locking up. and those damian's this to the end to now. yeah, people can watch our interview. we had on a trial, we abbas has never, never come on. and of course is paid by the israelis a and the americans. but then on guerrilla warfare, they, they, they struck afghanistan, you've written about, i've gotten this done with war planes and still, guerrilla warfare beat the americans, can guerrilla warfare in palestine and in the region, beats biden's, the navy and air forces that are all being summoned. so i'm saying the largest dom, either in history though, in this region, can they be beaten? i think the largest armada is large weekends going to show people back home and the

strategies that we are with you don't to worry, we will safeguard to. but since no one is actually the 1st thing, the systems stuff is right, it's likely include lift is low. this notion that is right. and if i'm on the print is crazy. it's a nuclear state. it's under 200 feet by the united states and the european union. there's no equality between them and the palestinians ad so there's a government filed with a 6 not just on me in the work. so one of that was threatening of that, nobody so, so this is affective be sarah and fear tactics on the arabs. the, you know, we're here we back is really well if you're here and you come out of your shapes and you go on the lad. yeah, that will be all sorts of warfare icon predicted. i'm not in the, you know,

confidence of the people 5 mean i don't deal with them. but this battle to be something like that. and you know, the end of con, this style and where they had you, uh, they was good off um, uh, booms placed and detonate displaced on the roads, etc. which discount that goes guys, from cvs, on the best and side operation enduring freedom. you remember that was cold and the same wouldn't happen in the middle. the steps that go in just like that because they assume of that of egypt to remain loyal to cc and cc does as well. and the rep pression and he tripped or ready is as high as levels. much, much was then under the host name about a country. so,

but that doesn't work. you know, numbers count. so if you have a 1000000 people out of the streets, you begin to break up the police and you begin to break up the only because with so many 1000000 so they have relations there for people. they have relations or policeman, the relation of law. so justin slowly, those things, friends, that's what happened in many places and as julia in vietnam and the other liberation struggles and that will help them in the middle east if that's an escalation by the west. and just finally, really, i mean, arguably you only have so that can power over there in britain because israel helped to manipulate your general elections using the phrase anti semitism. do you think one other aspect of this terrible, terrible tragic tragedy him guys is that as you semitism can no longer be weaponized in the same way to alter the results of general elections in western

europe and even in the united states. yeah, i agree with that. i think that uh what happened was a systematic attempt by the bridge and state and the bulk of the above increase a above party and the conservative side of the media to make sure all big jeremy call been removed as nature for labor party. why? because of what's left, say, what's going on, my head, goldman be leader of the labor party. it's line would not have been what it is now and the use devotees semitism. so. busy the challenges of anti semitism and even at that time i said in public, the jeremy made a huge mistake in accepting the h r c or whatever it's gold uh as the ave to what constitutes anti

semitism. and they didn't find to back up the time and challenge them, but they come to that smell bad solve us. i mean, you know, people that define storm a in, in different parts of the country and they know they can't use that. they instead of trying to get rid of others who they don't like, but using that particular charge now becomes very difficult here. and in the united states for the jewish kids who marched, i've shown real coverage. and so as we speak for the jews, no, but i mean that's quite astonishing. so i think from that point of view of the some of the directory movement road as being very positive in ending this. yeah. well, being denounced as mtc, my di golly, thank you. and that's it for the show. and condolences from the whole team here at going on the ground to those briefed by the ongoing violence. and then at least

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