the i'm action or times here. welcome back to going underground broadcast to go around the world from the middle east on this thomas, just as we all know, millions killed during the 1st world war. the irony of western powers refusing to support disease fire in palestine after the killing of a $10000.00 and the besieged gaza strip is clear. demonstrations are ongoing today old, around the world against nature. nation leaders funding this military and who continued to dismiss, please from not just be un secretary general with agencies, human rights lawyers and the people, sorry golly, as voted against the imperial was all his life. no less to play, ride tv and film produce the historian, friend of the late john lennon and celebrated in the rolling stones as street fighting many joins to be from london, its web tens of thousands on the streets to end the nation nation on bombing off casa tag, thanks so much for coming back on the bus today. i know it was of a week or so ago, but to tell me why you are celebrating the institutionally corrupt. i think there was a role in the recent report and it's usually races. famously,

a scotland yard today as a much for peace. this while i finish slow to every day that one has to say in public, that's fine gold. we have a police chief metropolitan police commissioner who refuses to accept extremely rash and its pre missed advice from the home secretary as well. uh, a bravo. mm. uh and it's, it's fantastic, but the police have done this because they know a, they don't monitor wilson going anywhere near the send that to be the senator off events would be over and see it's impossible to stop because they're predicting nearly half a 1000000 people to be present. today we will get the comp, but it was a crazy attempt to stop it tonight. i'm very glad people are out on the streets.

yeah, i was from hawkins friends, tried to ban the demonstration van the united states, of course, has that constitution which guarantees the right to demonstrate. but i suppose when you'd mentioned these british politicians, it may not be no, no around the world. why is it that politicians, van politicians in west and europe learn politicians in the united states seem to echo what i asked professor eli and pop a on last week. show the echo, the lack of compassion for the people of cause of what, why is this or when i paint them, but they so berkeley, it's very clear. brooklyn has for a very long time now and even more so after the iraq war, which was a disaster for them, decided to back the united states and every single thing. and sometimes they say it openly. we've gone on for those seeds, fire unless we get the green light to do so from the united states. i,

if the united states does that, we will, we will follow them. so they behave on the television screens. and then the media in general is people who don't care about anything. i mean, how can you remain inside that when you see houses and thousands of people being killed over the last few weeks? so can you and storm of the lea, a circle lead or a c o position? just as bad is the prime minister. and lots of today by t counsellors are resigning from the labor party in august for instance, late, but has lost its majority on the con. so, because of selma's positions on casa, it's one thing they had never felt that there won't be another form resistance that it will take on q a stature in the world. and that is really not to be seen is moving to but the

palestinians, and this they haven't guaranteed for they thought it was over. mentioned you how going to the united nations and trying to map of the all to buy the west bank and gaza and saying this is part of the map of this room. that's how arrogant this far right government to me is ready to go up. and the united states refused to stop it . they went alone with this because the only power in the world who could stop is through, within a 24 hours as the united states. when they say we've gone be a lot and they've done it before. i've sent you recall in 1957 when these read 1st occupied casa preston dies in the hall, who was the president and asked them to get out. they've been there for, for. ready months, they're primavera didn't need preston sanctions within a few weeks, they were out o casa, so better, very dependent on the united states,

despite these resulting. and if they've been to them and wines of say, we need you to get out quickly, they will do the low some that they want me to is mean, if they didn't, they'd be printing them that from create a new crisis in is right. and then bring back in young. well, i them, how comes up by, in a, in a question i will ask you more about the u. s. s. i, as in how warship being sent to actually, rather than what happened in the 1950s, is there a real blow back tension between the people versus the leads that run these countries in western europe? i know with vietnam, harold wilson didn't do what the united states wanted them to do as regards vietnam, which you of course opposed. they must be in the sixty's today. i mean, the whole of western europe is on side firmly with the washington is foreign policy . and yet the people seem completely out of step with the latest to go to sleep.

and these are opinion boats in brooklyn. now for the last 4 weeks have shown 70 percent in favor of an immediate cease fire, which is huge. so what his affecting is that democratic functioning in the western countries, the u. n. b, u k, is being affected because what they're saying to their own people is we're going to carry on doing this. the people say we with the girl consent from you for doing this. and this thing we don't get severed. see what happens with it'd be punished in the election. so people who left football, but it's noticeable now on every single european country, including france and germany, that a band the demonstrations, but got most of being forced to step back and let me new extend stations every right brooklyn has been amazing on business. and that's partially because we set up

the stop, the, we'll go live from them. but by this time some of the barricade campaign is being in action for a long, long time. and they could mobilize very falls look just in london, where they will be huge demos and a huge demos, but in a provincial capitals, in, in glasgow, in my interest in god is elsewhere. large numbers of people have come up. the 2 countries in your that are exceptional us spin and i'm and which of come up for me, good sign. busy and a cabinet minister in spain has gold phoned into the out to be arrested by the criminal colton. charged with the war, crimes of the arab was, of course, we know is a disaster story as far as the rules are, before we go on to the job, i'll call you said you might have to say of the queen of georgia. she has spoken of

very effectively or again, so it is going on and goes on 4 months to okay, but uh, given how much uh, we'll know about the propaganda model and our best wishes to know. i'm from ski, i understand he's not well at the moment of how is it this conscious this about what is happening in gaza? the palestine question itself has a, is there in western europe and the united states if the so called israel low b, which involves music in the band, celebrities were coming out from palestine. but that's going to stop some celebrities coming out for its influence on publishing, on literature on. as i said, music on film, how is it the public know what's wrong and what's right you as well. there are 2 reasons for this, in my opinion. and the existence of non western media, i would say i would just say rise between both on this front that you have known

west and television stations, both in europe in the middle east. i'm in china. you know, the chinese boat cost as dukes which are showing different images. some that's very important. which is why wouldn't bleed come recently when to cut the. he also got the really does to control bring no jersey or on the control. but they, they don't even want to do it and they don't to go to serious solvent jewel in the chrome of these gulf states, whether they like it or not. so i just eat her as being important to me in to mentions to be an important alternative images coming in from the bathroom fields which are very different from what has been shown by the b b, c and i tv channels. and secondly, even the young know the base something deeply on just about the treatment of palestinians by these writings. the jew dale sighed,

holocaust effect is wearing off. they've gone to use that cynically, as they did for many, many tickets and the profiles batches in these amazing demonstrations by young american jewish kids. during pro, by this time the banners calling for a ceasefire off coupon in grand central station, off to buying the lobbies of the house of representatives. that's very mostly so when their own people simple, they took for granted, like the young, jewish population of the united states are all fairly sizeable chunk. also start operating like this. then there is reason for them to panic because it means you've gone depend on this for me to my stronger because it doesn't stop the mainstream news channels, corporate news channels, no mainstream talking about isis and comparing. i'm off to ices. i mean, do you think there are similarities between the u. k. u s. west and your

b u of high says given they're all being the bombing of gaza rather than have us hing by devices. um the link. so fee is done crazy with isis. i mean, in terms of our policy that we see the images and seemingly the hospitals being blown up and then to me blinking then the snack controlled, saying we've got to not have these 5. i know what i mean the, the reason they don't want to see the side because it means a function come from cation way and that, and you know, when is government and the blaming of how much, that's a big thing. genius, who i mean, you know, this is not enrolled and started on october, the 7th. this as a role that has started many, many decades ago and october. the 7th is just one phase of the will liberation movements act according to their own,

with their own strategy. those and solo directly with the palestinians gone justified everything down that they don't need to box. they are their mom. and what we are demanding is a fan. just settlement competitive stein. and that means really does mean that the set flows on to buy these ready government. we now know i'm going to create a man where the on the west bank it has to be booted out. that is the only basis for a certain date to set those back to your box off. uh uh, is right. and otherwise, how can they ever get an independent state, which in any event the may make them, you know, government and it's free to assess those have no really interested in prompting a tool. they sold that item, the bag and then october. the 2nd problem, which was a big strategic blow for them. don't underestimate it on the golf. say, no,

we're good to know how most of the areas no, that is going on with these big demonstrations. very few people are saying how much is to blame, even though people attack the uh, the way in which they dealt with the uh, the boats and etc. but no one serious is saying they are. the old subscripts accept the 13 government stooges and bro government media in the west, because everyone knows smoke true tag how they all stop you. the more from the renowned writer whose latest book is winston churchill, his times his crimes. after this break the the

a lot like like how about us getting out of sight and see all those in the region. the or non state actors by the operate within national have down the normal price beyond national golf. so if you don't have it, you have this mission to the res, seem you know, and bring spain back to the peace love at the end, or restore the king that they are not in any way interested or involved in the

policy for this course. unless you understand that, you could easily fall into the trouble. the american propaganda, the probably button is come us from us in the welcome back to going underground. i was still here with the new left reviews, tired colleagues. sorry, we were talking about adult toby, the 7th and history, not beginning of october. this happened during the story and as well, you know, how important it is. that's a powerful often try to raise history. do you think the japanese own financial times recognize that when they compare the resistance movements about assuming resistance movement to the event and then these resistance move, but i don't think whether they understood that the means actually one that for that is that why these riley's are not going in and then ground defensive as

a circle of military analysts on. so go mainstream media have been telling us for weeks these relays don't want to lose too many of their subjects action. this is in way as being a big priority for is right. the number of people of jewish origin overdues they can keep in is right and losing even 11 prime is to subject it's a goes 10 to many. so when they say this is the was crisis since the holocaust, that's rough. expedite certainly is the worst crisis since 1948 and the neck above when there was a resistance lead luxury. and unfortunately the by arab monarchs and kings on the british control. and it didn't work. so the that is the fact. so they try and cover for their losses,

and for them to go in and try not to buy the hold of casa and as slightly cleanse or general side of the palestinians want to lease a grant. a conflict, i think despite that talks with the united states, the secret of the radians would not be able to pass the out of that conflict. because you know, has been done not just, or in the, in stooges, they are also a major political force in lebanon. so once you have the war being expanded by these riley's troops sending in their own me in taking godsa effectively, it won't stop there. and some of the most serious is really general serenity to aware of space. they won't say they've said off to the road, try out, which is the way they do it. but um that's, i think is a, is a why they're doing this because you know how much i and it said lives in. does i

have been prepared for this? they didn't do this thing. can you put on go waste? i'm going to be there for bed for the long haul, while it's definitely center stage of game when it was thought to have been forgotten, we could jake sullivan, national security adviser, claiming that be said reboot to the middle east a few weeks before october. the 7th, what on these u. s. s. warships, aircraft carrier, i mean, also israel was the united states, as eric, rav carrier recruiting secret documents. what is the eisenhower in the general for doing these images draining? so what i mean to function is to 8, so shopped across the, about the radians to say to the uranium, let's look here. we are, if the uranium state intervene in any way, which by the way, i think because it seemed to be unlikely. but we're here to defend is true, but also it's the same to hezbollah. we're here and if you now go

into this water crime, help the palestinians, you love us to deal with what the americans with said this before. and one of the biggest assessed ups actually was in the left and them as some decades ago when an entire marine bass and the concrete was blown up. so it's made the more careful so they can say this, they can destroy countries. but in a hand time fighting and commandos and marines on the ground, it's not at all show. old weight demo has spelled, they can destroy them and them from the mean get destroyed. many countries, all thoughts of many cities in that way, but it will then make things difficult for those or line to the united states. i mean, on the one hand, the united states have been crying very out the to try and get. so solve the solve

the review and others that will reduce the director's license, right? this is hold to that process. i mean, even in the matter of the increase they're considering whether to maintain relations with this or of the south african the so the sense, the investor, the back, i am lucky american countries, 3 or 4 have broken off relations. so it's not going well on that level. so they have to bear that in mind because they've already the ukraine thing. isolated them with the the as far as the south is concerned, the valencia, which is very pro, the united states, refused to back sanctions against russia. as did most of africa and many of the country, so that, that showed to be divided between the old and press and colonial us. and the rest was, this thing will be big because if they escalate the will,

if they use american troops, don't bank. com. c, c to base the lot because he kept is in a rage at the moment because of what's going on in reggie and even even the president by them have you ever heard of an egyptian president since egyptian independence refusing to meet the sitting you as president i think the reason for that is that the very well objections from others, the jordanian king was very angry and he said he was the 1st to say i don't want to sit down to table with these people and then it became difficult for the others to say no, but we're happy to sit down with them. i know me the other day, a boss this public president of feedback listing in no authority. uh it was shaking hands with blink. i mean the shameless, the business to noon and authority. and that's the other side which we haven't

discussed option, is that the fracturing of the resistance of to the also codes was a few low for palestinian liberation. and despite group b take requests from within his own rights abbas refuses to go mean be a huge difference. and i'm, and i probably was the president of the yellow and not to this own guide was, gets, you know, plump i'm blown, buys the money, get the balls and building that our own homes and houses, ignoring the needs of the palestinians. collaborating locking up. and this damian's this to the end to now. yeah, people can watch our interview with the trial we. a boss has never, never come on. and of course is paid by the israelis and the americans. but then, on guerrilla warfare, they, they, they struck afghanistan,

you've written about afghanis, done with war planes and still, guerrilla warfare beat the americans can guerrilla warfare in palestine and in the region, beats biden's, the navy and air forces literal being summoned to some, saying, the largest dom either in history though, in this region, can they be beaten? i think the largest armada is large weekends going to show people back home. and these really is that we're with you. don't worry, we will safeguard you. but since no one is actually trusting the existence of his right, it's likely info, at least, is low. this notion that is right, if i'm on the print is crazy. it's a new clean state inside the to the teeth by the united states and the european union, this low a quality between them and the palestinians ad. so there's

a government file with the 6 not just on me in the work. so one of that was threatening to nobody. so this is affective, be sarah and fear tactics on the arabs. the, you know, we're here we back is really well if you're here and you come out of your shapes and you go on the lad. yeah, that will be all sorts of warfare icon predicted. i'm not in the, you know, confidence of the people 5 mean i don't deal with them, but this battle to be something like that. and you will end up on this style the way they had you. uh, they was good off um, booms, place them detonate displays from the roads website, trowbridge did, did the goals, guy from cvs, on the best and side operation enduring freedom. you remember that was full and the

same. what happened in the middle east? it's a go in just like that because this you to that of egypt to remain loyal to c, c. and c, c does as well. and the real pressure and he tripped or ready is as high as levels . much, much was then under the host name about a country. so, but that doesn't work, you know, numbers. so if you have a 1000000 people out in the streets, you begin to break up the police and you begin to break up the only because with so many 1000000. so they have relations there for people. they have relations or policeman, their relation who also chosen slowly those things freights. that's what happened in many places, an ad julia in vietnam and the other liberation struggles. and that will help them in the middle east, if that's an escalation by the west. and just finally, really,

i mean, arguably you only have so that can power over there in britain because israel helped to manipulate your general elections uh, using the phrase anti semitism. do you think one other aspect of this terrible, terrible tragic tragedy him guys? or is it, as you semitism can no longer be weaponized in the same way to alter the results of general elections in western europe and even in the united states. yeah, i agree with that. i think that what happened was a systematic attempt by the berkeley state and the bulk of the above increase a above party and the conservative side of the media to make sure all big jeremy call been removed as nature for labor party. why? because of what's left to say, what's going on my head colbin being the drugs,

the labor party, it's line would not have been what it is now. and the use devotees semitism. so. busy the challenges of anti semitism and even at that time i said in public that jeremy made a huge mistake in accepting the h r c or whatever it's gold uh as the opposite to what constitutes anti semitism. and they didn't find to back up the time and challenge them, but they come to, that's not bad solve us. i mean, you know, people that define storm a in, in different parts of the country. and they know they can't use that. instead of trying to get rid of others who they don't like, but using that particular charge now becomes very difficult here. and in the united states for the jewish kids who marched, i've shown real coverage. and so as we speak for the jews, no,

but i mean that's quite astonishing. so i think from that point of view of the southern guarantee movement road as being very positive in ending this. yeah. well being denounced as mtc, my tag ali, thank you. and that's it for the show and condolences from the whole team here at going underground to those briefed by the ongoing violence in the middle east. there will be more guards on monday's show until then. keep in touch, my role, that social media, if it's not sense it in your country and had to our chattel going underground tv on mobile, don't come to what's new and old episodes of going underground. see monday the missions did you say

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