the, the i'm action or times here, welcome back to going underground broadcast to go around the world from the middle east on the thomas, just as we all know, millions killed during the 1st world war. the irony of west and power is refusing to support disease 5 in palestine after the killing of over $10000.00 in the besieged cause and strip is clear. demonstrations are ongoing today all around the world against nature. nation leaders funding this military and who continued to dismiss please from not just the un secretary general, but agencies, human rights lawyers and the people started golly as forward against imperial was all his life. no less to play, ride tv and film produce the historian. friend of the late john lennon and celebrated in the rolling stones is street fighting many joins to be from london. it's wet tens of thousands on the streets to end the nation. the nation on bombing off casa tag, thanks so much for coming back on the bus today. i know it was a week or so ago, but tell me why your celebrating the institutionally corrupt. i think there was a role in the recent report, an excuse me, rates is famously

a scotland yard today as a much for bes, this. when i finished slow to every j, that one has to say in public, that's fine, go. we have a police chief metropolitan police commissioner who refuses to accept extremely rash and its pre missed advice from the home secretary as well. uh, a bravo. uh and uh its, it's fantastic, but the police have done this because they know a, they don't monitor off and going anywhere near the send that to be the send that off events would be over and see it's impossible to stop because they're predicting nearly half a 1000000 people to be present today we will get the comp, but it was a crazy attempt to stop it tonight. i'm very glad people are out on the streets.

yeah, i was from lockers friends, tried to ban the demonstrations, and the united states, of course, has that constitution which guarantees the right to demonstrate. but i suppose when you'd mentioned these british politicians, it may not be no, no around the world. why is it that politicians, van politicians in west and europe learn politicians in the united states seem to echo what i asked professor, you learn pop a on last week, show the echo, the lack of compassion for the people of cause of what, why is this or when i pick them up as a berkeley, it's very clear as for a very long time now and even more so after the iraq war, which was a disaster for them, decided to back the united states and every single thing. and sometimes they said openly, we got old for those seeds, fire, unless me gets the green light to do so from the united states. i. if,

when the united states does that, we will, we will follow them. so they behave on the television screens. and then the media in general is people who don't care about anything. i mean, how can you remain inside that when you see houses and thousands of people being killed over the last few weeks. so can you and some of the leaders circle lead or the opposition just as bad is the prime minister. and lots of dave about the counsellors are resigning from the labor party in. busy sort of for instance, late but has lost its majority on the come. so, because of selma's positions on god, so it's one thing they had never felt that there won't be another form of resistance that it will take on the q a stature in the world. and that is why they would not be seen as the victim,

but the palestinians, and this they had told, guaranteed for they thought it was over. mention you how going to the united nation, some kind of map of the all to buy it west bank and gaza. i am saying this is bob with the map of his roof. that's how arrogant this far right. the government to me is ready to golf and the united states refused to stop it. they went alone with this because the only power in the world who could stop is through, within a 24 hours as the united states. when the same week on the line and they've done it defaults option. uh you recall in 1957 when is read 1st occupied because the president dies in the hall, who was the president and asked them to get up. they've been there for, for. ready months they've proved variegated. it needs fractions. sanctions within a few weeks, they are out of to casa. so there's

a very dependent on the united states despite these resulting. and if they've been to them and wines of say, we need, you get out quickly. they will do the most of that, they wouldn't just mean if they didn't, they'd be printing them that create a new crisis in is right. and then bring mentioned, you know, well i them how comes up by, in a, in a question. i will ask you more about the, the us s eyes and how warship being sent to actually, rather than what happened in the 1950s, is there a real blow back tension between the people versus the leads that run these countries in western europe? i know with vietnam, harold wilson didn't do what the united states wanted them to do as regards vietnam, which you of course, suppose they must be in the sixty's today. i mean, the whole, the west of new york is on side firmly with washington's foreign policy. and yet the people seem completely out of step with their leaders. the codes and

these opinion boats and brick, now for the last 4 weeks have shown 70 percent in favor of an immediate cease fire, which is huge. so what is affecting is that democratic functioning in the western countries, the u. n. b, u k is being affected because what they're saying to their own people is we're going to carry on doing this. the people are saying we with the girl consent from you for doing this, and this thing we don't get. so we'll see what happens with the foundation the election. so people will left football. but it's noticeable now on every single european country, including france and germany, the band, the demonstrations, the governments of being forced to step back and let me new extend stations every where brooklyn has been amazing on business. and that's partially because we set up

the stop the war coalition member by this time some america campaign is being in action for a long, long time. and they could mobilize very falls look just in london, where they've been huge demos and all huge demos. but in a provincial capital's, in, in glasgow, in manchester and god is elsewhere, large numbers of people have come up with 2 countries in europe that are exceptional span. and i'm and which of come up for a major sign and a cabinet minister in spain has gold phoned into the out to be arrested by the criminal colton. charged with the war, crimes of the arab was, of course, we know is a disaster story as far as the religion. before we go onto the global call, you said you might have to say of the queen of georgia. she has spoken of very

effective needs are, again, salt is going on and goes, i am 4 months to okay, but uh, given how much uh, we'll know about the propaganda model and our best wishes to know. i'm chomsky i understand he's not well at the moment of how is it this conscious this about what is happening in gaza? the palestine question itself has a, is there in western europe and the united states if the so called is a low b, which involves music events, celebrities for coming out from palestine. but that's going to stop some celebrities coming over its influence on publishing and literature on. as i said, music on film, how is it the public know what's wrong and what's right you as well. there are 2 reasons for this, in my opinion. and the existence of non western media, i would say i would just say rise between both on this front that you have known

west and television stations, both in europe in the middle east. i'm in china. you know, the chinese boat cost as dukes which are showing different images. some that's very important. which is why wouldn't blue come recently when to cut the. he also got the really does to control bring know just the wrong to control. but they, they don't even want to do it and they don't to go to the right as a sort of a jewel in the crown of these gulf states, whether they like it or not. so i just eat her as being important amendment. and that seems to be an important alternative images coming in from the bathroom fields, which are very different from what has been shown by the b, b, c, united tv channels. and secondly, even the young to know the base something deeply on just about the treatment of palestinians by these ratings. the jew dale side holocaust effect

is wearing off steak on to use that cynically as they did for many, many tickets in the process of baptism. these amazing demonstrations by young american jewish kids during broke by the starting banners, calling for a ceasefire, occupying grand central station, or to find the lobbies of the house of representatives. that's very mostly. so when their own people simple, they took for granted, like the young jewish population of the united states are all fairly sizeable chunk . also start operating like this, then there is reason for them to panic because it means you've gone depend on this to my stronger. because it doesn't stop the mainstream news channels, corporate news channels, no mainstream talking about isis. i'm comparing, i'm off to ices. i mean, do you think there are similarities between the u. k. u. s. west and your be,

you have high says given they're all being the bombing of gaza rather than have us getting by devices. um the link so fee is done. crazy guy says, i mean in terms of our policy that we see the images and seemingly the hospitals being blown up and then to be blinking. then the snack controlled, saying we've got to not have a ceasefire. i know what i mean the, the reason they don't want to see side because it means a from can come from cation when i'm there to know when is government and the blaming of how much. that's a big thing. genius, who i mean, you know, this is not enrolled and started on october, the 7th. this as a role that has started many, many decades ago. and october. the 7th is just one phase of the will liberation movements act according to their own,

with their own strategy. those and solo dyer came with the palestinians, gone justified everything down that they don't need to. lots they are their mom and what we are demanding is a fan and just settlement in palestine. and that means really does mean that the set flows on to buy these ready government. we now know and going creating may him where the on the west bank has to be booted out. that's is the basis for a set to months. take the set plus back to your bought off. uh uh, is written otherwise. how can they ever get an independent state which in any event the may make them, you know, government time in spring just as of have no really interested in grunting at all. they sold that, hide it in the bag, and then october, the 2nd problem which was

a big strategic blow for them. don't underestimate it on the golf. say, no, we're good to know how much that there is. no, that is going on with these big demonstrations. very few people are saying how much is to blame, even though people exactly the way in which they don't with the uh, the boats and etc. but no one serious is saying they are the own subscripts, except the, if the government still exists and bro, government media in the west because everyone knows smoke true, tired, golly, i'll stop you. the more from the renowned writer whose latest book is winston churchill, his times his crimes. after this break the the

house goes off. like like i have asked him how to start and see all those in the region. the or non state actors by the operate with his national down the don't to break beyond national about this. so if you don't have it, you have is mission, the race stream, you know, and bring spain back to the peace love at the end or restore that came. i think they are not in any way interested organ, both of them. that's another part of this course. unless you understand that, you could easily fall into the trouble. the american propaganda, the probably button has come off of the

the welcome back to going underground. i was still here with the new left reviews, tired colleagues start. we were talking about, i don't, toby, the 7th and history, not beginning of october. this happened during the story and as well, you know how important it is. that's the powerful often try. do we res history? do you think the japanese own financial times recognize that when they compare the resistance movements about assuming resistance? we went to the vietnam, eas resistance move, but i don't think whether they understood that the means actually one that for that is that why these riley's are not going in and then ground defensive as a so called military analysts on. so go mainstream media have been telling us for weeks. these really don't want to lose too many of their so just action. this is a way is being a big priority for is right. the number of people of jewish origin

overdues they can keep in is right and losing even 11 prime minister said decades that goes 10 to many. so when they say this is the was crisis since the holocaust, that's rough. expedite certainly is the worst crisis since 1948 and been knuckleball when there was a resistance lead, largely and unfortunately the v by arab monarchs and kings on the british control. and it didn't work. so the that is the fact. so they cry and cover for the losses. and for ben to go in and try not to buy the whole of casa and estimate, league lens or genocide, the palestinians want to lease abroad to conflict. i think despite that talks with the united states, the secret of the radians would not be able to be possible. the artifact conflicts

because you know, has been done not just during the and students as they are old. so a major political force in live. and so once you have the war being expended by these relays from sending him that wrong be in taking godsa effectively, it won't stop there. and some of the most serious is really general serenity to aware of face. they won't say it's been said off to they were try out, which is the way they do it. but um that's i think is a, is a why they're delaying this because, you know, i'm us and it said lies in does. i have been prepared for this. they didn't do this thinking a good one go way suddenly. they have for bed for the long haul. while it's definitely center stage of game when it was thought to being forgotten, we could jake sullivan, national security adviser, claiming that be said being brought to the middle east,

a few weeks before i grew up with the 7. what are these u. s. s. warships across kerry, i mean, also israel was the united states, as eric, rav carrier recruiting secret documents. what is the eisenhower in the general for doing these images draining? what i mean, the function is to 8, so shopped across the about the radians to say to the, or any ends. look here we are, if the uranium state intervenes in any way, which by the way, i think is extremely unlikely. but we're here to defend is true, but also it's the same to have the way here. and if you now go into this for trying to help the palestinians, you love us to deal with what the americans are set this before. and one of the biggest assess steps actually was in the left and them as some decades ago, when an entire marine bass in the country was blown up. so it's made the more

careful so they can say this, they can destroy countries. but in a hand time fighting and come on those and marines on the ground, it's not at all show, old way. venmo has fuller. i mean, they can do as far as having them from the i mean get destroyed. many countries full thoughts of many cities in that way, but it will then make things difficult for those or line to the united states. i mean, on the one hand, the united states have been crying very out the to try and get. so solve the solve the ravia and others that will reduce and see to recognizes, right? this is hold to that process. i mean, even in the matter of the increase they're considering whether to maintain relations with this or of the south african the so the sense, the investor, the back, i am lucky american countries,

3 or 4 have broken off relations. so it's not going well on that level. so they have to bands, as in mind because they've already, the ukraine thing. isolated them with the the, as far as the south is concerned, even india, which is very pro the united states, refused to back sanctions against russia. as did most of africa and many of the country, so that, that showed to be divided between the old and press and colonial us. and the rest of it was, this thing will be big up because if they ask and they go, if they use american troops, don't bank on c. c, to basically a lot because he kept is in a rage at the moment because of what's going on in reggie and even even the president by them have you ever heard of an egyptian president since egyptian independence refusing to meet the sitting you as president?

i think the reason for that is that the very well objections from others, the jordanian king was very angry and he said he was the 1st to say, i don't want to sit down at the table with these people and then it became difficult for the others. to say no, but we're happy to sit down with them. i know me the other day, a boss, this big president of the, by the stand in no authority will shaking hands with blink. i mean, they're shameless, the business to noon and authority. and that's the other side which we haven't discussed, i've shown is that the fracturing of the resistance of to the also called was a few low for palestinian liberation. and despite the take requests from within his own rides, a bus refuses to go mean be

a huge difference. and i'm, and i probably was the president of the piano and not to this own guide was, gets, you know, plump i'm blown, buys the money, get the balls and building their, our own homes. and the houses, ignoring the needs of the palestinians. collaborating, locking up and the stadiums. this showed the end to now. yeah, people can watch our interview with the trolley, abbas has never, never come on. and of course is paid by the israelis a and the americans. but then on guerrilla warfare, they, they, they struck afghanistan, you've written about, i've gotten this done with war planes and still, guerrilla warfare beat the americans, can guerrilla warfare in palestine and in the region, beats biden's, the navy and air forces that are all being summoned to some saying the largest dom, either in history though, in this region, can they be beaten?

i think the largest armada is largely gathering to show people back home and these frailties that we have with you. don't worry, we will safeguard you. but since no one is actually present in the system, so if it's right, it's likely include lift is low. this notion that is right. and if i'm on to practice crazy, it's a new crew state. it's under 200 feet by the united states and the european union. there's no equality between them and the palestinians as old as a government file with the 6, not just telling me in the work. so one of that was threatening of that, nobody so, so this is affective to be the tyra and fear tactics on the ropes. the, you know, we're here we back is really well if your,

with you and you come out of your shapes and you go on the land. yeah, they will be all sorts of wolf or icon predicted. i'm not in the, you know, confidence of the people, the 5 mean i don't deal with them, but this battle to be something like that. and you end up on this style where they had you. uh, they was good off um the bones place and detonate displays from the roads, etc, which just did the goals guide from cvs, on the best and side operation enduring freedom, you remember that was cold and the same would happen in the middle east if they'd go in just like that because they assume to that of egypt to remain loyal to cc and cc does as well. and the roof pressure and he tripped or ready is as high as levels. much,

much was then under the host name about a country. so, but that doesn't work, you know, numbers. com. so if you have a 1000000 people out of the streets, you begin to break up the police and you begin to break up the only because with so many millions. so they have relations there for people. they have relations or policeman, the relation of law. so joe's and slowly those things, friends, that's what happened in many places and at julia in vietnam and the other liberation struggles. and that was to help them in the middle east if that's an escalation by the waste. and just finally, really, i mean, arguably you only have so that can power over there in britain because israel helped to manipulate your general elections using the phrase anti semitism. do you think one other aspect of this terrible, terrible tragic tragedy him guys is that as you semitism can no longer be

weaponized in the same way to alter the results of general elections in western europe and even in the united states. yeah, i agree with that. i think that uh what happened to me was a systematic attempt by the bridge and the state and the bulk of the above increase a above party and the conservative send the media to make sure all big jeremy call been removed as nature the labor party. why? because of what's left, say, what's going on, my head goldman be leader of the labor party. its line would not have been what it is now and the use devotees semitism. so. busy the charges of anti semitism, and even at that time i said in public that jeremy made a huge mistake in accepting the

h r c or whatever. it's called a as the all but to what constitutes anti semitism. and they didn't find to back up the time and challenge them, but they come to that smell bad solve us. i mean, you know, people that define storm a mean different parts of the country and they know they can't use that. instead of trying to get rid of others who they don't like, but using that particular charge now becomes very difficult here. and in the united states for the jewish kids who marched, i've shown real coverage. and so as we speak for the jews, no, but i mean that's quite astonishing. so i think from that point of view this on the directory movement road as being very positive in ending this. yeah. well, being denounced as mtc, my di golly, thank you. and that's it for the show and condolences from the whole team here at

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[000:00:00;00] the stability and sheltering and also those in northern gaza. i called in the crossfire between the idea of off it generates a fuel about someone else. the lives of hundreds of patients are risk tens of thousands of civilians lead to so the gaza image of humanitarian crisis, pulling israel's bombardment to the enclaves. you know, we have from a local gen list who lives among the display of the precincts and suffering here in the doors and goes to refine the reward or find a cliff just at the fighting food. and hopefully because retail 5,