as was realisation is denied, continuously is bound to lead to the very opposite of hope, which is range, malice, despair, revenge. how much do you think this suspended, cold, have to do with what's happening in, in gaza today? right, so there has really been periods of order just to even watch icons. you know, there are indeed there was this kind of collective sense of despair. and this collective sense of despair follow political promises. the total for example, after the madrid negotiations in 1991 after the also of course in 1993. this problem is that everything is going to be ok. our people are going to be ok, is we always start building supplements and there would be a palestinian state and to even make it more difficult. so that's good enough. this palestinian hope is that they gave us enough symbols slab and actually,

and some members should as various uh, international distribution. so we're national team became an actual football team that is competing and the big so so for the so on. and that kind of body with that sense of hope is indeed something real tangible is happening. but for a political point of view, the exact opposite has happened. the number of jewels 2nd mess. tribble, the number of that is to be a skilled, triple the number of books. oh, the joys federalist. move to. the westbank, contrary to international law, has increased financially. so that you'll have this condo home apparel, we got a fuse where we are feeding on hope. nothing is really happening on the ground. and then the sense of this that we have seen during the 2nd intifada and the suicide bombing put on me. and i don't have that number, do you think that was a conscious strategy or do you think that it was, you know, something, you know, the hardest reality that not facilitating the finding of, of

a compromise because americans like to say that, you know, perception is reality. increasing there wasn't a conscious attempt to create that perception while denying, realize it reality or do you think that just the way history develop is a sort of a former, not the latter. and we know that because for, for rational reasons, i mean, you can't find settlements and legal stuff in that's your current funds. because what you need me to tell you with people is paying in dollars a year. and at the same time as the most by the study of rights in the areas that are being appropriated by the southern or the industry and people's right to exist while you are funding the very minute. sorry, that's just dividing them that that's right interest. so there was obviously something political and it wasn't perception that the americans were trying to market. the americans are very good with brandy. so if you really created as brand as the sword thus brand, and they decided that you don't agree with this. but as you are a radical, your a terrorist some besides or your and the american and you don't want peace. but

also there are actual statements made by the lives of uh uh, what is the last name example, who was uh, the, uh, uh, an adviser, adviser diploma. is what department are ill? sure. who, who made it very clear in 2005, that we are studying palestinians, the idea that there would be a state and there would be no, there won't be no stay. there will be a peace process. but to the contrary, what we are trying to say, and this is what you mean, the apologies necessary. not only interpretation were you want to put palestinians on a die if you said, but we don't want to kill them. i think for anyone who has even the most basic understanding of collective psychology, it's pretty obvious that guys, it has become a very dangerous human experiment because it is bound to produce a radicalism and resistance. and do i think human terrorism as a, as

a natural way of opposing a person who cannot deny dignity to you know, it's a successive generations of people for it, way too long. i mean, then i wonder what do you think these railey and perhaps the west and leadership counted on? do they truly believe in your view that they can sort of seal these problem off in their, her medic, fashion 2 things. number one, that is what you guys are living in the cities. the media that you have on media is what you the media is how the different well the are aware like for example, the whole, the term that's what happened on october 7 was on approval. the actually have internalizes the me that they don't think that's what your patient part time sieges mass because coming was biden's the united nation instead of 2022 was the most by that if you're in the west, texas to, to 2000 on this they give back again, it is a 2023 by june. it was the most violent view of the westgate since

$2005.00 is on the different story, because it has already been declared and habitable by the united nations is them years ago. but in the mind. so that is what it is because of the propaganda. the husband is where you need it. it's completely unprovoked. we have no idea why these people hate us so much. that's a problem in the american media. it's a different story. the american media, they have a stablish this connection. that's what is what else is doing as well as the read democracy, the only democracy in the middle east. and that is, will present the hopes and dreams of the great western civilization. and there are fighting a war against islam it turns. and there's little difference between isis of how much time so organ, so on. so the americans have a different today or of indoctrination that makes them compliant blind at least mainstream media and bell harmon, completely blind to the price of the city as over the course of 75 years. now this 75 here is living under conditions. most of us would recognize as highly dramatic.

i think there is no dispute about it. it's a, it's bound to produce collective trauma. so let me ask you a hypothetical question here because it's easy to blame you through the americans in the west. but do you think the so called the allies or supporters of the policy and people would actually in practicality, welcome a workable solution because when you deal with so many people who have been troubled psychologically economically logistically in all the possible ways, do you think the neighbors of palestine would actually one to st free um, existing as a, as a state. right. so there are 2 different types of neighbors. oh palestinians. most very good neighbors. i don't want to go into a specific store and you know, to distract from the conversation. but these are the american olives and the work of the engines up to accommodate 2 elements. number one, the boat was too much trouble amongst their own people. revolts maybe even minutes

a cause and there's some serious spears. i think couple of these are countries. there is some way that there can be a mandatory quote, is less than yours are continued to be slow, so that the site, but they will also wanting to accommodate the american big tasks and they want to stay on the west side of washington. the anyways, their own risk come in like in practical terms, that will also understandable. this is a valid political motivation. that's why i'm asking the same question. do you think they actually won the resolution of the palestinian nature? because as in humane, as it seems right now, it seems to be keeping believe in place and making sure that the region is not troubled anymore. then i think it's kind of depends what's kinda on the kind of solution we're talking about in spanish. do you have, are in, indeed rented a minimal definition of justice as you know, kind of city of state that may be a step towards a future or above. so the ration or, or one state where people can follow, come and go. i have freedom,

have political rights can vote. i don't see why this would be a problem for jordan or egypt, or anyone to the contrary is going to open up the space for not just for socio economic equality and very just what's for economic prosperity as well. the americans have the piece to all of this. the americans don't want to do it, even though it actually by not doing it in this, the region of the americans want stable, but they are not doing it because there's a far wide government and as well. and that is what you just don't want any cause or visit lucian. that seems humphrey to whatever ultimate goal they haven't thought of. but now you have reason. recently, the one take away from this crisis is the guy that has ended the secretary and the war in the, in the middle is that, you know, regardless of whether people are sunni, identify them, the sunni or she, or they tend to support the and the policy and cost it down to resent what is

being uh so what are the guys that people are being subjected to? do you think that kind of a fact would be lasting? and perhaps even game changing because i mean, and policies very natural at this point of time. but is it enough to move the situation from where it has been for many, many decades assigned to the american program in the middle east is situated with them division, divide and conquer. it's as simple as that. i remember when the americans invaded the rock in 2003, and they, they intentionally and divide it logged into. she has on sundays, only. everybody knows that even though i visited your lot prior to that, and i didn't really see misconduct, step tell your cost it so ugly. it happening on a daily basis for the 1st time says the american invasion of your walk back then until today. i have not seen, for example, in egypt soon, the protesters chatting the names of housing as well as she either he been as

protesters, she approved sisters sending the names of so many are leaders. we're having business, concrete time you put the temper with is it enough to console and then dot into something tangible into tangible, political solutions that will change the destiny on the policy and people rather than simply being useful political purposes in those in those countries invest the struggle, and that's the struggle, and that's what we're going to start seeing manifest in the coming era, the americans. and this is what you use and the allies want the region to be pro. is that exactly where it is? because it's of the interest. there is another town hall as well. uh, yeah. man of palestine specific sections of the society of elsewhere that is trying to create a new political paradigm. and i think the outcome of this part of the is going to change that you on ethics of the music use itself. but also that music is visa, be your political actors, whether be a restaurant site,

that's all you know. look what looks like. there are, let me stop here right here. we will talk about how exactly that could manifest in a couple of minutes. but for now, stay tuned. the, the russian states never as tired as i'm one of the most sense community. best of all sense set up the same assistance must be the one else holes. question about this, even though we will then in the european union,

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the welcome back towards the portsmouth ramsey by route and residence senior research follow as a center for as long and global affairs as symbols, i'm university, dr. brewer and before the break we started talking about the unmarried control in this whole conflict. and you wrote recently that the guys that issue has become quite

a liability for the bite and administration. and the democratic party more broadly that this re toward police, a credit bond between israel and the united states is becoming more of a jewel political bondage for the americans. do you seeing that this is their pressure or they just come for the bond and administration may feel on the issue, may lead to some converse pressure on the not in the whole government because let's face it, the americans can be pretty, a roof less even than that on allies one, their own american interests are affected on our so many moving pieces here as well, is now going back to the status of the client's reaching, which is really interesting. this is the conversation we've had regarding the music is for many years is with all the clients we dream or is the as they say that team is lacking, is wagging the dog. and i think there's a struggle now we're some in israel, it's so are a free them, they have been saying this out loud including i come are be viewing others within

the rights we or far right government that we are going back to that kind of stuff . is where the america's telling us was due to the are those who are still insisting that israel has not lost it's political power, influence and credibility, and we make our own decisions. so i think one of the moving pieces is that what it is, what you just find himself going back to the 19 and he hasn't even earlier or the american state is what you did, policies in the middle east, or will they continue? this new empowered up towards where they are to decide those are the words of george w bush back in today. so that's one of the pieces. the other one is how will this more affect the relationships between the democratic party, especially the rank and file, with the idiots who are still very kind of die hard supporters of kind of the we are going to see this thing coming elections. and we are beginning to see changes

happening in terms of numbers, especially with younger democratic voters or making goals and palestine, and so in their perception of bite and now uh, i'm joining you from most crime here in russia. we have this cliche, the americans are always trying to impose their solutions on to everybody else. but in order to impose solutions, you have to have them full stop. do you think the american, the current, the american administration even has an idea of how they can try to approach this very investable issue? because if they only want to use it for political purposes, for appearances, you still need to offer something on the the so tricia seems to be so dire that it's very hard to understand where even to start the what to exploit. and, and this is one of the unprecedented outcomes of what's happening right now, regardless of how we feel that that's what took place on october 7th and, and, and the legitimacy or lack there are. so the 1st on many years and what's the

americans are not the ones who have taken the initiative. we all know now you'll make lands famous, smoke the font doctrine. and the idea that you just go and you just take advantage of the existing disaster or you impose when i'm it finally organize the pieces to fit your foreign policy. i tried the best find the americans were taken by surprise . as much as that is what it is worth, taking by surprise. but what anthony, blinking on other american, the subjects taller than all the rest are trying to do here. they are pretending that nothing has changed, but they are in fact the ones in charge. the g 7 is holding me things to talk about the future of garza with come as, as if this has been the ones who created this whole scenario and are the only ones who are capable of influencing the outcome of this scenario. and this is the biggest political crisis, i think for the americans in a long time in the middle east. is that those of you are yeah, that's the, that's imposed on them are against. they are still trying to kind of show results

and the are in charge, but the actual entity, we are no longer the ones in the leadership position and they don't know what the outcomes can it. i wanna ask you uh, one uh, religious or political question here because uh they have been some recent studies that i read recently. that is real and prominent during business month through all the 20th century house. sought to essentially intertwine religious and political discourse, particularly restoring the united states, and particularly among the so called zine is christians, making them believe that the 2nd coming of christ is intrinsically linked to the political state of israel. and you know, they and then this is a very um, you know, 10 years connection because if people vote in favor of, you know, supporting the military and government in, in a different land because of, uh, there will be a, you know, that could create uh, a lot of problems and americans aren't as we know of, you know,

still very powerful player. how, when do you think about it? do you think that problem hasn't been given enough attention and the political implications of using the religious and this course for creating support for it is around and is your how come us senators quoting for religious war or saying this is a religious war? is 35 because you are not no longer talking about or, you know, people within the establishments who have kind of semester ideas. no, you're talking about people within government and we know that that is what you guys have already at least the conclusion that it is that really just warranty meant that very clear. and those who are being sold for the rest of us as margaret or students are as soon as way to positive, they are using very big nicole language as in turning goals are to ashes. eradicating the kind of, i mean tiny fight terrifying that we know best. this must be differentiated from

the language that is used by, by slightly political forces composite assignment. this is quite a complicated issue. i just want to kind of highlight to things face sometimes can be used as a form. well you go and destroy and kill in the name of god. and sometimes these can be used as a shield. and we see this with the study and most of us but christians. i mean we have seen a christian last, i mean a christian church, a christian hospital being destroyed. then we have seen that. what do you mean? anything from the christian community in gaza is very face oriented to receive themselves as well as to be, as far as like christian 2nd. so this is different and, and this whole idea of the are actually put fighting religious funds you made to them. the sad reality is the exact opposite. it is also on the bike, the or palestinians walk by using this rather just fundamental isn't. and it's, and we are using face as a way to st. stay strong under the harshest of circumstance. now in your work for,

for the center of fort is on global affairs, i'm sure you're quite familiar with this course of how potentially dangerous political design could be. i mean, a couple of years ago, it was a very popular topic. but do you see any difference between political as long and let's say political zion is in the, in this particular case? yes, of course. and here i am, i am excluding groups that could be directly or potentially manipulated and used by western governments to see political agendas in syria or elsewhere. not going to talk about these guys. and i, i'm also excluding groups that and by the way, those guys are usually turn this term is by the way, i mean, like the prices, for example, wasn't brand of terrorism. even though they were a political, the, as long as been some sense. exactly, and that's the name of the game. you know, you're kind of create or many people to give a space to set themselves to operate as so you save your serve your interest. and

at the same time, you dump them with all sorts of things. so in order for you to create this or to present yourself as the savior humanity, but the group such as the, like, like how much impact is time and see all those in the region, the or non state actors but the operates with a national bank because they don't footprint beyond national boundaries. so if you don't have it, just this mission, the rates us being, you know, and bring the spin back to the baseline, the kingdoms of angels or restore that came to think they are not in any way interested, oregon, both of them that color political discourse and at least you understand that you would easily fall into the trouble. the american propaganda. the probably button is how much, how boss is isaac. isaac is a guy that and so forth. and certainly a lot of people in the us because they don't allow us to use an honest conversation about these issues and mainstream media. a lot of people are buying into this and they are behaving as indeed how most, and i says,

are the same for the different. you mentioned his bowler and how mazda and correct me if i'm wrong with our thing. his ball of was a pretty much and empowered by the is really competing against the pillow. where's come i us is a direct creation of, uh, all for israel i because, and from what i understand initially it was created as a civil service group and it only through the deck and so far denying dignity into their power. steering and people that it turned into what it turned to do you think there will be any and perhaps of probably, but at least in toronto analysis on the part of these really special services on american special services about them. you know, and the kind of groups that they read and what is actually supporting this resistance among the posting is that it's not about the concrete group, but rather about the conditions on the ground. some guy wrote extensively, in fact, i wrote

a book about this issue and i divided will come out and i wouldn't say it was created as much as is it is kind of hard to put bodies, go to store for the experiments as they continue to doing drugs in the west bank again by giving you a little bit of space for a certain point. it took a rival to grow with the hold of decreased friction and the create civil war and that sort of thing. but indeed, this is what happened of jamal this let me of this by the group was the, the, the kind of the 4 runner of how most in gaza and they were involved in cultural programs. university is us because charities. but when you are dealing with a restaurant, organizational, but any kind is brand new or n e o. otherwise, as that brussel society is part of the struggle against occupation, i guess apartheid naturally the are going to themselves most to be part of that movement. so without the is what it is intended or didn't, and i really don't think they did a how much has with, on become the main resistance platform for palestine in garza. and in fact,

at this point is the west bank as well. now it's picking about resistance and my question may come across, it was very arrogant, but i do ask it out of the emphasis on the st. proceed with the policy and people. because when you leave in the, under the spirit of resistance and in the conditions of occupation for so long, i think the task of governing becomes very challenging. i mean, it's a very challenging, right back even for the most um, you know, developing nations. but i assume it's, it's, it's if wouldn't be a very hard challenge for the people of palestine. do you think they're still capable of from cooperating and running themselves? no. just resisting the imaginative under the support of the circumstances. a gauze of government living under told to seat, told a political life solutions managed to actually govern gonzalez under the

circumstances. i know it so you're not going to talk about the perfect sonata yet, but they actually did manage to govern garza to some extent on the order of this. i think, yes, i think the are more than capable of doing so. but it's the external passions that make sense to impossible. like right now, 60 percent of goals that has been either 40 or partially destroyed. it is going to take the last number i heard a few days ago that is going to take about $3000000000.00. but now we might be looking at a 4 or $5000000000.00 to govern, garza, we will not even allow to, to bring $132.00 because it's a brief 40 into gaza because of the pressure by, as well as united states. how are the, you know, are going to be responsible for rebuilding garza and bring them all this money and, and so just they are capable of doing so if the external pressures allow good or is up enough for the building of gaza to well, um, temporarily on this very dark, no 3 have to leave it there. thank you very much for sharing your insights with us

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