an example of this today is our legit anti semitism has been weaponized, criticism of israel or design is and is deemed a stop crime the to discuss these issues and more i'm joined by my guess. in merrill cash, we have martin jay, he's an award winning journalist and commentator. and in budapest we cross the george semi wiley. he's a pod cast, read the goggle, which can be found on youtube and locals. right, gentlemen, crossed up rules. in fact, that means you can jump any time you want, and i always appreciate it. let's start out with george in budapest. so george explained to our audience how criticism is a israel is anti semitism because i don't see it that way. this has been in argument that's going on since i was a teenager. i remember there was the united nations security. what is it? it was a, a general assembly vote on equating zine isn't with racism. and of course everyone's

hair in the political elite was on fire. go ahead, george. what is close? a criticism of israel is an alta and just saying that there is another cause. everybody knows this, but it is a very useful way of changing the subject. because lo and behold, more than one months as a lapse and say october, the 7th attacks and then israel's, it's savage response to it. and instead of talking about that instead of talking about the humanitarian price, isn't garza well, what are we talking about? especially in the united states. well that the students in the uh, the most comfortable uh, pleasant campuses of the united states of feeding on the thread because they are jews. and it goes, when you look into it, if i that they are in the under any threat whatsoever. what they are on the thread is hearing views that they don't blind. um. and of course the universities have

responded by caving and why have a case. because universities of valuable to money, money concerns and that's what they care about. that's what they're in the business of, you know, that's what the university system is. it's almost obviously crazy about it. yeah. and so what's happened is wealthy jewish donors of gone to the universe, it is a said that if you will allow these pro palestinian groups to operate on your campus, we're going to pull off funding. and then the atl and the anti defamation league, the side of that will hold on a oh, we got to pull the funding. we're going to pressure the government to withhold contracts from the universe. it is a many universes depend entirely, they may be private, but they depend on government contracts. and so it gives the vote is threatened by this all. now, banning all the student organizations that are advocates on behalf of pakistan if

you, even though the names of the universe is the bill of these organizations like jewish students or palestine insights, but the place of it called beyond to submit to the oh, glad to if you a band as of it, so it's, but why is the this is the very effective because suddenly we're talking about this and when not the bad guys. that the very, very skillful change of narrative. yeah. and don't get the docs in your future prospect. so if you're of, of you university graduates could be a threatened it when they're put on this list. i think in harvard they have like a, some kind of moving van with the images of students with their names and all about just a very intimidating what martin this is, george is absolutely right. this is, you know, shifting the topic, you know, don't, you know, don't talk about a baby's dying and incubators in the end guys. but let's talk about some of the most comfortable universities. students in the world are under so called threat. ok . but it, it, for me, it's an, it's, it's a much large,

a in addition and much larger thing. what could we have had with co, but you cannot say certain things, okay. if you support trump, you're approved in the apologise, you know, a creating all these speak buying aries. obviously it's not only fake news, but it's fake buying aries and it's proscribed. proscribed speech. what you must say to what you can say is what you must say. go ahead, mark. hi. all right, that is something that i've witnessed in my, such a year plus career. but you know, for me, is there any days when you called prior to the binary of the new scene of how news can only be presented to now in 2 groups, black and white. that cannot be any notes in the middle, because that takes up an awful lot of time and attention from those who want to shut down debate. so we go for the black and white model, which i so you know, very, very clearly in the mid ninety's when we were approaching home, you saw the same thing, you know, you either with or against most of which. and if you are with them, or you gotta see 70 st relatively intelligent, so new eps, you know, people,

it seems you being and try to i'm, you look council and this. i mean, george says it reflects and reflects the debate away from say your example babies dying and how he felt of the hospitals see what was good. so i'm trying to just transfer you to absolute transfer. you know, that looked into by just being switched off. thing that we should be talking about that, but if that were talking about you know, and title spoiled brats on university campuses, you know, who just couldn't cope with, you know too much fast on the meat ball in the crazy. you know, i mean, as professor snowflake generation now, you know, doesn't really know to think it has to be controlled by most media and by the leads . and they can, they welcome it. they welcome it. but what worries me is the this, this and to symmetric ultimate, you know, which these are the elite and, and, and tell them hasn't been somebody else since the day of the creation of the, of the, of the states. if we can go to the state, you know, is a great deflection,

some great where shot think they were done very, very effective with europeans in particular. because excuse me, the moment, but you question the design is entity and what they're doing. you know, somebody says, oh, you're anti semitic, and then immediately that is the code was full color cost. remember the holocaust. right. and so then your opinions, particularly when your opinions, you know, just sort of that point under the saying that it more and what has happened. you know, the combination of the aggregate of that 70 is on is the israel, is because become the new sasha states of the will and it becomes a new head to the neutral many of the 1970s. and those, those taken everything from the, the opponent, his presence of a holocaust and of that fascist regime and re implemented it to create a new state of its own working. what worries me about the west is it, when we hit that anti semitic time and goes beyond just shutting down universities,

it actually goes to political leads themselves itself. and we've seen and brought some money, was 2008 seen ken livingstone, a lady, politician, i'm not particular finals that's resulted because the civically restorative, i'm factual history was that hitler did actually was in cahoots with the german jews, designers of that time in germany. much and so it is 93 actually starting to deal with them because both the shoes of family that time hits the volunteer does not mistake there can't listen um was forcing reported a saying if the paperless supported sign isn't just wrong to say that tool destroys you with this choice, i mean the media just late in swim and with the now is you have to resign from have you know, the legal policy and pay your loans man. so it gets to sold as it becomes a tool. and for this information becomes a tool for manipulation, people doing anything but having that horrible words that everyone wants to ignore debate well, yeah,

but that is just the whole point of george being. it's the denial of debate that is um criminalizing defend. but it, it's a tool by me, this isn't a lead project be, you know, rush or gave was an a lead project. the or the, the, you ukraine or isn't it lead project. and now we have another a lead project. i mean, it's a, the, the, it, we focus on the message, but really what's behind it is the power to enforce george. that's exactly right. there is, it's very interesting what you said them about in the lead project. and yesterday we saw those massive demonstrations in long island in particular is up to 300000 maybe more. but who attended is basically in support of the palestinians in gaza. and i was thinking, well, amazing how there was never any demonstrations like this about ukraine. you said no one's great about wrong through skis out, you know, you know, you know, and so, so is that just so it's

a reflection of just this is something that people really feel strongly about ukraine, that was something just all sort of on the line and you also have bureau and the rest of them felt strongly about it. but of course this anticipating the charge, the montana goes, he brings up can living some of those even a more notable example is how um yeah, and jeremy called in. so it was destroyed and it was kicked out of the label by the, i mean it's a, just an extraordinary thing of this man who has been ill brahman and figured within leave of politics but decades. and i was a adjutant to tony ben suddenly. oh, you know, he's out and now goes, uh, labor is fine, this up. what, what, what position are we going to take? because they don't have a voice any longer. but there's, there's another angle to this. and this is the, the charge you meant to disseminate isn't, has now become a regular trove of the domestic politics uh, in the united states. and obviously, is in the united kingdom, which is the,

this is how you get out of your political opponents. so here now in the us, the 1st said donald trump, who is nothing, if not all the we pro, is really, i mean, and, and it is door to, you know, the narrative that you converted to judah is a, if you remember, during his presidency, he was a regularly shots with anti semitism when there was that's when there was a shooting, i think was in the pittsburgh, the synagogue at some point. did a prizes like he was charged with it. oh, it's old trunk. trump is a generating anti semitism in the united states. i mean whatever, quite so the logic of it without from trump is behind this. it just like of the people who criticized your star if jo, surface featured throughout the world. so very good reason of including israel is real, very good point including israel. oh, that's anti semitism. give you. com, bring up your story. so you know, you obviously being i just wanna, it's a way of transposing a domestic cultural politics onto

a completely different situation. i mean, there's nothing to do with anything but what goes on and it's really, it's really interesting off the domestic political discourse. not a martin i, i didn't watch it because i, i don't want to waste my, my waning years of life and watching the republican debate. okay. but i didn't see the eclipse of it. i mean, here's a country that has a very serious economic structural problems. okay. much higher unemployment, that is being reported in for high inflation, involved in 2 major military conflicts right now. and now a very little was actually said about domestic politics. again, it's a leak project and the republican party is all in public bows. lynn. i don't know, but i think uh the same time the democrats, so real going to really go to problem without just i'm just a bigger one. think time, you know, so where are we? we're going with this i, i tend to stay, i believe, was that both houses,

both parties are actually now convenient and looking at the crisis in gauze as it leaks and convenient exit from craig. and i think that's probably well is going to happen over a period of time. certainly, but the scaling a, you know, also funding is lensky. obviously, this case would have been whining about this. well, basically not wanting banking, especially going to internet to bake to watch these, say please, if you call give us money lender or below you get a bus to it. you know, that's like, uh, you know, uh somebody who has been it would have been a, a, a bankrupt the bankrupt the 10 times of the going to the high street bank. there's always like the same bank. when free. does that, can you give me a loan to pay off my, my, my investors. i mean it's, it's absurd by settling here. i'm going to jump in here and we're going to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on anti semitism. same with our t the

there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is the case for the madness of the people. i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also a pursuit. this is the 3rd world lunacy re washing press for so the funder line likes to say we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deals to living on mac, have very close propaganda. you know, a price here in new york. i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the question. some more questions ask the better. the answer is, will be the

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i talked about criticism of israel and of zionism, and i have to admit the, the israel lobby is done a remarkable job over the last 75 years of saying, you know, there's no difference between israel, judaism in zion is which of course, they're very different. go ahead, george, closer and the, and that's been a very, very skillful way of essentially demonizing the use of opponents of israel. because even when, you know, you'll be, look at the, the facts on, on the ground. and you see the see how your, what, what it is early is on the leave the house getting history, any projects which is the taking over all the pretty much all of the mandatory power stein then well, you know, what, what, how, how else can you argue about this other than to be legitimize the criticism of this . and this has been, you know, very skillfully accomplish. but why it's so

a session up. so the argument is that the most provenance critics of design is and have been american jews. i mean, i feel he don't know, don't chomsky it was one of the earliest on the critics of the israel. he himself was a young man had spent time while they keep books. um, you know, he had seen uh 1st hand exactly what this is available is about and we have to remember that's the wild. it has become more acceptable to criticize israel, particularly since the rise of late the far right in israel. but you've been here really, it actually began with the middle of him big in, was elected the prime minister. so it's becoming more self aware. we can, you know, criticize this way here and there. but the, the, is the leave about it. the sold will laugh, the liberal left of israel have themselves been impressed to implicate

that in the plan to essentially, you know, drive the palestinians off of that surgery to the 1st of the settlements to expropriate funds. and to essentially pursue greater results. it began on the is ready to leave, but the, so the good israel, the soul of the story is that all they, they, they turned the desolate into an oasis. all of that was completely fraudulent because it was based on the expropriation of land. but you know, the, but that was bought of the mythology of israel is on how this it is a wonderful place. it was never one to look at this boys based on the expropriation and it was done by people who i'm the liberal left in the west, a dual and all the sort of the golden a is in motion. diane's up was, they've been been go in before them. so it's like, it's convenient to do a tag begging on that's on the yahoo. but the project that whole crate or israel project expropriation perfect, saw that long before them. yeah, because it makes learning, you know, they, they talk about the design is

a mom. i think most people have no idea actually what that really means. that if you've criticized that, you're somehow an anti semite, which is again, neither here nor there. but, you know, you, you have disney of the neo liberal agenda over the last 50 years. is a nationalism is a bad thing. okay. well, is realism ultra national? is country ultra, and is going further and further to the right. and the left is a centrally collapse, but design is a, it's very convenient to say design is a. but if you said the ultra nationalist of israel, people say what they say. again, this is a communications gimmick martin, but i think i'll go back to my other point, you lost it because the government model of this for it all is actually based on the the, to the hidden appeared in germany. you know, i mean if you look at, if you look at the similarities as quite kidding, you know, what and hitler 30 shut down your position, the control of the media, you know,

he creates and then gets hose. and then ultimately concentration comes. that's what this one is introduced on in, in particular the last few years, i really up scale the, the dish immunization of about us 10 years. but does a, is a concentration camp, you know, they, they, they think they publish them as a single avenue, right? so right, they've been slowly eroded on the road in the road and you know, a lot of big things about this. um, ottoman about. i just, i'm just being confused with and to your site is something, is that nice very, very easy for people are on the delivery of this done too much thought. the middle east or, or politics or history of israel to just say, oh, your racist you onto symmetric because you're criticizing the criticizing. i mean are the, is there any lead, always had this caught blown for so long to not have any criticism. we hope it was a tiny, tiny pockets, a tiny mama to the european union. a short history were in 2016. the new e phone policy chief, natalia,

and socialist suggested that goods from israel, which came from the supplement pair is, should have a special stick on them to say this has to come from a settlement area of, you know, the simple fact that you can never go anywhere never goes to page, you know, that's the dustin's progress with gold in the, in europe to actually criticize this entity and look and look at the results. you know, okay, you go some kids and universities were bit scared about the rise of december again . and you are but a so much are you focusing so much appropriately on the subject and what's really happening, which we don't want to look up isn't rise old is never heard of you. you know, in europe you have many is um, millions and millions of, of refugees from syria, from asking us to and from a run from an agent for these places. you know, who have come to you for a better life, but you've been to humanize themselves. they don't get helps the living of state handout checks every week to buy the food and pay the rent. you know, this is really the issue and then focuses of this slow and it's, it is

a sofa. and george mentioned it is something these, throw it people because you know, it comes with it. so i'm back, you know, you know, trump is anti semitic scenarios. i've seen there instead of is many things. we can sort of many things. trump, we get them to create a whole show on what to spend about trunk, but you can't really go to much submitted, you know, but this, this or to lease or even re system. yeah, i don't know. good of these things stick. i'm superior argument is to, you know, you said very recently to british a touch. so how does you know when you have these demonstrations, you know, in a full go so that, you know, this is really against, this is related to united subject and, and then he all can, you said there's always started in germany. you know, you have this demonstration simply as a very fine line between democratic principles and free speech and you know anti semitism. i think they get confused, conveniently too often. and a lot of it used to focusing on the biggest impact, the biggest level of focusing,

which is starting, is the cough all of the supports that you find in europe in america, full of the so called zine estate for, for, for jose, people and their rights to do whatever they want against a people of palestine to give them a free or you know, a couple of some human rights abuse. people who supports up or actually those who don't want the state to fail. because if the state of israel failed collapses, the thinking, oh my god, that's millions of jews telling of a heath rippled sounds. a lot of people could say no anti semitism, which goes well, like they said the they have pocket pocket. so he's even greater george because, i mean, over the last 2 years, the diminished the, the, the, the payment is ation of russians. russo phobia, i'm backing a, a regime in kemp that has all the is fascist stick, neo nazi characteristics. it's been well reported in the main stream, breast black um and just from us. okay. but that's acceptable. acceptable. you know,

so you can, you can take on a, a, a races you against russians. okay. and it promote the racism of, of elements within ukraine against russians. but you can't say anything about israel and its behavior for 75 years about displacement of palestinians. it says, you know, it when you, when you look at it from 30000 feet, it looks very bizarre. george, it does a very bizarre and that's why it's so extraordinary. this is something that you get these um, kind of liberal media outlets such as the new york times. that i was sensitive to any suggestions anywhere that sound which could be interpreted as a and the submit to. and yet when it comes to ukraine, they just simply, you know, they just don't know to say, well, you know, the, the swastika. yeah. but that's, you know, that's an ancient hindus boards. you, we, we did a part past um that we did a pod cast on this and i remember and the 1st paragraph, you know, they were 3 instances of, of nazi regatta. oh,

yeah. and all that. and by the time we could forensically decode through the be off because it was, well, it's ubiquitous. it went from 3 to ubiquitous charge. that's right, i but i really well when it, when it comes to a trunk, you know, trying to give those. and, you know, denounce the something you know, like big money as of, oh well, you know, but donald trump was using an old um anti semitic probe when he, uh, denounce the big money and wall street and the influence of big money. uh, so that you know, those, oh hypoth, since they were you looking says something and why the way of this is, you know, google was clearly giving in, you know, empty so they take the signal. so if this, let me it's, it's always part of the same kind of the cultural of basketball. you know, the, you know, these are your political enemies. so you denounce? no, i mean it's always, this is now be played out on the ride, where there are some people on the right who are anxious to revive the soul of the,

the kind of civilizational struggle. yeah. the, the, the, the body is of off the $911.00. so like i say, well, this is randy between the judeo christian well and the, well the, the, as long as so basically israel and the, the west. they're all part of the same. do do christian civilization and they do it, but you know, judge, you know what, that's it, that's a very, you know, one of the reasons why they do that is because it is a short circuits international law. no, it's a civilizational try to lot of international humanitarian legal problem that's that's, it's a very interesting way. they can shut down that avenue as well. martin, but i didn't know that because i had like, it was so good. it might be something i think, i think this thing about the and the anti semitic slow, but what would be the most, i suppose is that what i've seen on television in the last few days, you know, we've, we sent a number of hospitals and goals are shutting down electricity being cut and dry

more children dying. and this isn't reported as a whole across the board. it does estimate claims in no. why do you think this is just reported by british journalists who do life links every evening on the periphery of golf? so then go reason because it's it afraid to come in, you know, you wouldn't have seen reports inside go. so because you might have to get out some facts, don't we? don't, we definitely don't want the facts, you know, but then what is reported, and i'm hearing it more or more. is it justification though, from this general this, but you know, this is acceptable. we should be that, you know, these, raising the idea of a have to be doing this. you know, this collective punishment is acceptable and we saw it in the 2nd level. and, you know, unfortunately, but you know, this argument, but the idea from the british journalist friends come out with is that, you know, when we belong to these hospitals, you know, we, we, um, we, we don't see any of these uh how most flights is pulled out the rubble, you know, and, and um, i see this is a florida i an on demand which shapes the,

the x rays and the photos over and over again. it, it shows the dental, actually, bowman, i'm us, well actually as a, but it's essentially george to the real quickly. i mean, we, it, but they're there, but it is necessary to bomb them for peace. george. 15 seconds. that's why it's a, they are actually just inflicting mass terror in all the, to me another induce fear. so, well, you know, this is this, this, are you try this a game and we're going to do this even worse. that's all that they're already doing into the software that things are going to stop as a what we've now killed so many people, but as well i get, i have to wait for that moment and then we will discuss it as we move forward. that's all the time we have want to thank my guess, americans and in budapest and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here are dc and next time. remember cross lock rules, the

new for monday. i'm not getting back to do stuff. i'm either going to use the fixture or take just a month or $100.00. no, that's enough. to hunger lied to you on this, this i are you familiar? no, i need the news. we need to get decided. what does she left to do? cycles speaking one on the right. she's on by, that'd be a lot more you and you now i'm out of this. go ok. now send. i'm not going to still go to what do you guys, what do i equal to the? so to show because of the other cheek, and of course i go with us and scolded, it's due for me quite a while. so who shall handle close to the also steals office childers things. the

is really true to attempt to force their way deeper into goals, this etc, but faced fierce resistance from palestinian militants, who say they'd rather die than give all the 3rd 3000 official states. 5 babies have died, 2 to power cubs that goes as large as hospital and more lives are on the 9th. israel has sent some fuel to the facility, the director said it's nowhere near enough. in southern gallons, it's supposed to be a safe spot for you. we have at least 13 or a fortunately killed by and it's really strikes on the city of con eunice. we hear from one of the service.