could be considered a fully illuminated thing personally. how is the idea of it telling the difference between civilians and militants? because i'm going to assume that you know, the $11000.00 then townsend civilian deaths was not part of the plan. first of all is asking. so the 3 weeks old civilians, northern part of casa, to actuate to the so there's right just since the stopping these people in order to use of this year, which you spears friday obvious, it's trying, it's best not, not to hit and not to hard any. now distributed on something and then come back to civilian. but this is a war, so minimal and so there are casualties. i would like to say the 11000 number that is being shot. if there's a proper down to a number, it's not true. we know that as well as accounted for $1200.00 victims on each side . recently revised on from 1400 now palestine sais, you say it can be dispute

a bit. $11000.00 to being towed in garza some full of thousands of those children according to the un. i know that you are reasonable not, and will agree that the suffering often moving forward to disproportionate. it is less than proportion and more as another proportion to the number. so you're just quote that i have not been quoted by the us have been quoted by phone or that, or you might know is really a palestinian organization funded by the united nations. i would not take the numbers, it's face value, but there are casualties. this is going to continue for the whole weeks. i'm so if not longer, what does benjamin netanyahu have in mind for long term security for as well, or does it mean it would need to be in control of dog afford indefinite period? does that mean the occupation of the palestinian place? we're looking for peace or the future? we understood. i think this is riley. so the only solution at the end of the day is

having a palestinian state. and this palestinian state should be an armless, palestinian state where the inhabitants should be, should see prosperity and peace a lot. so our news ralph is shipping off for an hour just now for half past 11. am this monday here in moscow? i'll be back up the top with all the latest developments of which there are quite a few to hope you've enjoyed the there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is the case of the med, most of the people i've tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also absurd. this is the 3rd world lunacy re washing as for so the funder line likes to say, we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deals to help me

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just don't you have to safe house to come and engagement because the trail when so many find themselves will support. we choose to look for common ground, the the hello, i'm manila chan you are tuned into modus operandi. the term banana republic has long been used by us mainstream media to describe the political instability in countries of the global cell, most commonly thrown at latin american countries for the many presidents having and thrown behind bars for corruption. well, could these chickens have come home to roost? as the world watches several cases brought against the us?

45th president, donald trump unfold before the cameras. today we'll take a look at the us drama, and the many cases of world leaders who go from president to present. all right, let's get into the m o. the is the 1st in us history. a former poetess indicted on a myriad of charges ranging from corruption to some that are tantamount to fomenting a clue, or blocking the transfer of power. donald trump, now the face of this watershed moment ahead of the 2024 elections here in the us, where he is by many measures. not only the leading opposition candidate against incumbent joe biden, but the leader of the pact to win all these trials. he's facing our spark in the

conversation of a weaponized justice system against political foes. while this is the 1st for the wes, this is not the case around the world. so joining us to discuss the many people who have gone from their nation's highest office to a miserable prison cell. it is ecuadorian journalist esteban cadell. he is the editor at the cradle. you can follow him on twitter or x. i still call it the former followed him at esteban car locks c a r l o p. so as the month, as we watched these trials of donald trump unfold, historic for the us. no former po, this has ever been indicted on anything ever before. you being a journalist outside of the us and also an ecuadorian citizen. what goes through your mind? what do you think of what's happening here in the us? well, i think of seeing everything that is happening relating to trump. uh,

the 1st thing that comes to my mind is that uh, it's a situation that has been a long time comment. as you said, there is no former president that has actually been indicted or much less made to uh, you know, send to prison for our crimes committed during their administration and uh, which we trump embrace is a lot of questions because what it, what it feels like it's uh, it reminds me of, uh, what do things said recently that uh these uh, is uh, political persecution of up in the 08. 0, is persecution of a political opponent and uh its uh, he talked about the rottenness of a traditional system and i think um, this is a very much the view outside because uh, outside of the us we do not the in general and see that the things the same way that our people inside of the us see it. uh, we do not exist in that same level. so this situation withdrawn with the coming elections with the,

with biden's own legal problems which are the attorney general's into you. i seem to be honestly this interested into looking into them. it feels like, like i said, like something that has been a long time calling because it also speaks to the, to the level of the patient that exists within the united states. that up, according to some researches uh, is reached a point that is uh, essentially reversible, you know, between democrats and republicans and another thing that jumps in my mind that he's a dave, it's a part of the system. you know, and it's uh, it seems to exist uh to serve the same interest, you know, internally, maybe the republicans and the democrats may have a different system that are some small. busy outside, when it comes to foreign policy, you know, it almost doesn't matter who is sitting in that, in the white house because in the u. s. foreign policy has for so many back. it's now being centered on, on the war,

on sending weapons on law fair on sanctions. and now i don't know if, if trump's case is indeed a case of an offer, but the way that it's being deployed it's, that's going to be racing. many questions. so far, 30 or 40 years now, the u. s. has often chided latin american countries for prosecuting its own leaders . us mainstream media likes to use terms like banana republic, to describe some of these arrests of these presidents in central and south america . do you sense any, have pock received or perhaps even irony right now, given this historic moment for the us there's definitely a high level of the bumper. see a given what is happening that you as an, even before in a lot of i or any indeed. yes, because uh, this idea that, uh, nothing american countries are run into republics is, um, it goes from

a colonial his perspective, you know, and this idea that we kind of go over in ourselves that we need, you know, over 3 years now we need to, you know, do what we're told essentially, and this call is from the, from the euro. when the spanish, the, for, to be used to french, the british, it took over these land and, you know, do what they need to do with the indigenous population. and it's, if it remains, it may have to say might be or remain. so now we have a us precedent essentially facing the situation that is um, in the scope, the base to what has happened before. busy or in the, in many like in american countries. oh, to be on. is it nothing america, the interventions or the, the yes, the us interventions they've been and usually targeting people who represent the national these movements or you know, along political lines uh like these movements, communist and social the same. and not so much when it comes to the right wing. so

i would say that's mainly the, the biggest difference right now with what we see, we what's happening with all the truck. all right, so let's get into a more specifics of presidents past and present in south america who has faced legal trouble. talk to us a little bit about lula da silva in brazil. he was president from 2003 to 2010, but then he found himself in some legal trouble through what is now known as operation car wash. he was convicted on corruption charges, but then fried and clear to run again in brazil as most recent presidential election against incumbent j or bull sonata. he emerged victorious and is currently the president of brazil again. but now both denado might face legal was he might end up in prison to what's going on with brazil, and this sort of ping pong match of political foes behind bars of what is currently happening in brazil is essentially the return of the rule of law of institution

that lady, eh, because i think there are more parallels between what is happening to both so nato to add to what is happening to trump down. what happened to that because the was the big thing or filter of the, of the use of the judicial system to persecute uh, a person for political gain, political objectives. so what happened in brazil with the job, the investigation was that of the united states department of justice initiated this investigation. they initiated to us small prosecutor office in brussels of hardest right city. and so, you know, and f b i, agents were meeting constantly with uh, with this prosecutors, they charging the case was meeting also was talking to persecutors, directing them on how to, to leave the gaze towards the worth of workers party who represent that a, a national project for the a project of national development,

least i believe 36000000 people out of over the he essentially ended in new jersey . he is up in albany or, you know, he doesn't have, he, he has his clothes, but he's, he was of the target of a campaign that sought to remove him from the ballad in 2018 and he was put, embrace on this and pursue that. some supreme court, they uh, an old, old, old the, it is which where uh, essentially what they are known as corps agree. bargained testimonies that were a pain eh, after many trials by the prosecutor, after many attempts by the prosecution to get the testimony that they wanted. that's it. they're all political goals among other types of manipulation. i think on the other hand, most are not all t. uh, he's under trial for uh, for corruption, for a different cases. i believe probably the one that has the most does book. nobody said you keep in gifts that the,

sorry family gave him both on nato and he was also a bar is now from running for office until 2030 because in the lead up to the 2021 . and next on the he, i won't go into gathered. i don't know how many i believe it was about dawson, for in, on boss others in a room. and essentially yelled at them about what he said it was gonna be brought committed against against them via the electronic voting system in brazil. so. busy keep trying to manipulate the election result, the 9. this is where the similarities to the trunk situation. com concert and we're not always uh is a man that represents the computer but see the never present. that. she's the, essentially a neo nazi he's, i'm on the bus will be leaving the rise of indigenous people. he's the one that believes that corporation should do as they please. i don't know if you remember a, during, he's any are and there were these giant, the forest fires indiana song and they were for

a not big part that were initiated by the practices of this corporations with both scenarios. you know, they, he allow them to go in to, to ex bell indigenous people from their own communities to raise the line, to, to burn down trees so that they could, uh, set up their own corrections. so it does a situation in brasil, uh, it was a case of law firm that expanded our across nothing. i married great extended to my own country and it was all the other break a scandal. it ended with the persecution of left the seat or 5 go there with the ink cars ration of he's vice president autoglass who had spent 5 years in prison. and during now, you know, he survived 25 recent massacres. he and also at the same time in a brother or not a single other birds executive was ever persecuted so. so that shows you how and the judicial systems in our countries have been a kind of, uh,

turn against a popular projects, a turn against political. and i guess political figures who represent a, in general represent uh the same ideology. right. coming up next, there's only one country in the western hemisphere whose polls show that they are even less happy with their government. then americans find out who when we return with esteban codio sit tight. m o will be right back. the the, i look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people.

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the m. o i manila, chad. while it's no shocker to anyone that in most western democracies, most of the public is never too happy with who they elected to office. i don't know, maybe it's buyer's remorse. maybe it's something else. to. esteban claudio, the editor of the cradle, is back with us to guess try to unpack that. so how about peru, esteban not long ago, just before christmas of 2022, president federal castillo was carted off to jail, immediately ahead of an impeachment vote against him. what were the circumstances around custio's case, and where is he now? precision is it because figure is a different case. i would say because castillo, essentially what happened. he, she deep what a, quite a bit. can see there as a self cool. she be so um parliament, it's a even though he didn't have the,

the legal or the constitutional and grounds to do with it. but he did it because he needed to achieve bulk of inability. so you want 2nd progress on about a year and 5 months into his he's a government castillo was a real teacher. he came essentially from nothing he's up. it was 1st left his precedent, but he came to power with the issue. she couldn't a really go over. so when you get this whole time a man when he attempted to be sold parliament, it was because for the past year and a half, she was not able to do anything. he couldn't even swear in his own ministers. because the far right groups in the program congress, but i'm not a visit and they wouldn't they launch the launch uh, 3 impeachment proceedings i can streaming the time that she wasn't off is the one that came out from the moment you step in from the moment she wants to elections the one that came up. so eh, see you also has a, the issue that, uh, before he won,

she started to distance himself from the, from the region of last, you know, at some point in time. so anyone who was the band event as well and project with the band, because my daughter and then a few months later, she was not going to come much more. uh, in america we, we say uh, give you, you know, warm water like, or you want to play with everyone, but you have absolutely no strength to do so. so you play to, to play to this trend. so the other side for all of the media for have all the preparations and we'll have that backing up in another state. so not at all. they are being ruled by a precedent of the novel autopay who goes up 12 percent approval rating, the congress guys on 99 percent approval rating, i believe. and stories of these and 71 percent of programs he owes approval model out of it. so that tells you a lot of where, where she stands and she's also b 9 investigated for the depths of about 6 the protestors who died one cuz the west point embrace on. so because they are still in prison,

she's the reason to be saying that he's the big the most of a plot that uh, you know, they tried to do is booking someone. but uh, but 1st we know this is something that, uh, submitted it to himself. and the interesting thing about the way that it was finding and that i, when i was researching is that, um, open the private, democratically elected president stuff having elected him through since they meet eighty's, i mean the arrested. so, you know, but those tells you how the corruption runs in the country. yeah, the peruvians are even less happy with their government then americans are based on these polls. so these incidents with presidents, they're not isolated to latin america. it happened in france in 2021, but without much global fanfare, certainly not much talk about it. here in the us. france being america's oldest ally, saw the former president nicholas or cosy convicted and sentenced to prison for 3

years on corruption charges. they say he quote was influence peddling and violated professional secrecy. hm. that sounds familiar. stateside 2 circles. he is now facing yet another trial that's scheduled for 2025, around a ledge money received from the late libyan leader and well marked adolphe star. cosy, who's a lawyer, that turned politician faces, charges of corruption, again, criminal association, illegal campaign financing, and conspiracy, and misusing libyan public money? your thoughts are cozy. i think it's what's most interesting about it is why you said how little it was spoken about, you know, starting to see she is actually not a hasn't been arrest if she has been to think of the utmost detain a he. um she scroll deal we've, we've got ocoee sees very chevy. uh, when i was looking into it, you know, cut off the before nato started

a bomb being uh, maybe uh about 2 days be. busy worth a nato answered. she said in a television interview that she had given money to the campaign of, i'm sorry for cnn to, to wherever you close before, you know, maybe it was uh, was the when uh, ads deals with friends. eh, got be, uh, be suited perry's on their uh, surfaces government for the 1st time in 30 years. so it was uh, you know, like i said, he's very easily. he's a very interesting case that he's not spoken about. and i do think he's no spoken about because this is not the role of french leader. and as you said, this is one of the main highlights of the united states. and at some point, it feels like when you, when you are western liter and you align with the, with the, with the aspirations of the united states, you can almost done the wrong. yeah, let's not forget that and media circus surrounding good off his visit to paris, where he was allowed to pitch a better 110th outside the l as

a palace. if we took a wider look at all of these various presidents of these so called democracies all around the world, they're getting done on corruption charges, right. it's the theme for all of these presidents, but yet nobody has been brought up on actual charges like war crimes, crimes against humanity, or anything real like that. not only of the presidents, but people in the administration's. i mean, look at george w bush's people and the lead up to the iraq war. why is that always corruption, but nothing like killing millions of people, i mean, except for so but on the lowest of it, but he was trying to hague of course, but we don't have enough time to discuss his case. i think that the focus is usually put in corruption because the, the focus wherever puts on on the war crimes on the, you know, legal invasions in the fours western countries to,

to confront their own legacy. their own history, which uh you know, what they have left behind and we're talking about the cypress. he is indicted on corruption charges. so i could see was one of the aspects of the median war. he was a bit of a surprise was the 1st going through the start of the media. you know, you have of iraq obama getting a nobel peace prize. and keep in mind that a, a, i think drug more bones. i mean, the president, he's also an architect. they gave me a war uh that were in syria. so i think of it the focus usually falls on corruption because it's something that allows the western uh, so called democracies to circumvent the reality of what they have done across the world. because the moment that they have to confront that is the moment. but the car, the car was you know, and don't forget that of the united states, for example, is not a signatory of the international criminal. uh, eh,

the international court of justice. and you know, the same with israel, which is one of the biggest culprits of human rights abuses of war crimes in the, in, in modern history. so i think it's, it's about that, you know, as you said, these are white color crimes. you know, these are a and then what are the sensors isn't in there? i was left on the reast. yes, i am very glad that you brought up the, the nothing yahoo because he keeps flipping through the legal cracks as well. but again, that man would need a whole episode to discuss as well. right as the bond patio editor of the cradle dot c o check out his work there. thank you so much for this. very enlightening and fun conversation. right, that is going to do it for this episode of motors operandi the show that digs deep in the foreign policy and current affairs. i'm your host middleware chan. thank you for tuning in. we'll see you again next time to figure out the m. o. the

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