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indigenous peoples in 1845, washington announce the annexation of mexican texas. and in march, 1846 american troops invaded mexico. however, mexico itself did not have enough means to effectively confront the enemy. besides, it was being torn apart by internal conflicts. the americans managed to return the tide of the war in their favor. in september 18, 47, the u. s. army captured mexico city. mexico was forced to sign a humiliating peace treaty according to wait to get lost 55 percent of its territory. cnx agent of the lands to the united states lead to terrible consequences, bloodshed, genocide was committed against the indians and california. during the 1st half and 3 of the american rules, the number of the indigenous people in the region to decrease from 150216000 people

. slavery, which had been abolished in mexico long before the united states attacked was restored on the occupied territories. this will later become one of the reasons for the civil war in the united states themselves. nations like individuals are punished for their transgressions. we got our punishment. american president ulysses grant wrote about the consequences of aggression against mexico several decades later. the hello, i'm in know a chan you are tuned into modus operandi. the term banana republic has long been used by us mainstream media to describe the political instability in countries of the global south, most commonly thrown in latin american countries for the many presidents having and thrown behind bars for corruption. well, could these chickens have come home to roost?

as the world watches several cases brought against the us? 45th president, donald trump unfold before the cameras. today we'll take a look at the u. s. trauma and the many cases of world leaders who go from president to present. all right, let's get into the m. o. the is the 1st in us history. a former poetess indicted on a myriad of charges ranging from corruption to some that are tantamount to fomenting a clue or blocking the transfer of power. donald trump, now the fate case of this watershed moment ahead of the 2024 elections here in the us. where he is by many measures, not only the leading opposition candidate against incumbent joe biden,

but the leader of the pact to win all these trials. he's facing our spark and the conversation of a weaponized justice system against political foes. while this is the 1st for the wes, this is not the case around the world. so joining us to discuss the many people who have gone from their nation's highest office to a miserable prison cell. it is ecuadorian journalist esteban cadell. he is the editor at the cradle. you can follow him on twitter or x. i still call it the former followed him at esteban car, lock c a r l o p. so as them on, as we watch these trials of donald trump unfold, historic for the us, no form or opponents has ever been indicted on anything ever before. you being a journalist outside of the us and also an ecuadorian citizen. what goes through your mind? what do you think of what's happening here in the us?

well, i think of seeing everything that is happening relating to trump. the 1st thing that comes to my mind is that uh, it's a situation that has been a long time call me. and i just said, there is no former president that has actually been indicted or much less made to uh, you know, sent to prison for our crimes committed during their administration. and which with trump embrace is a lot of questions because what it, what it feels like it's, uh, it reminds me of, uh, what do things said recently that uh these uh, is uh, political persecution up with me. oh, it always persecution of a political opponent. and uh its uh, he talked about the roth and as of a traditional system and i think uh, this is uh, very much the view outside because uh, outside of that you was with him not a general and see that the beings the same way that uh, people inside of the us see it. uh, we do not exist in that same bottle. so uh,

the suppression withdrawn with the coming elections with the with bindings on legal problems which are the attorney general's into us seem to be honestly this interested into looking into them. it feels like, like i said like something that has been a long time comment because it also speaks to the, to the level of the patient that exists within the united states. that up, according to some researches uh, is reached a point that is uh, essentially reversible, you know, between democrats and republicans and another thing that jumps in my mind a, he's a dave, it's a part of the system. you know, and it's uh, it seems to exist uh to serve the same interest, you know, in turn, i mean, maybe the republicans and the democrats may have a different. so some of the are some small. busy outside, when it comes to foreign policy, you know, it almost doesn't matter who is sitting in the, in the white house because in the u. s. foreign policy has for so many decades now

being centered on, on war, on sending weapons on law fair on sanctions. and now, i don't know if, if the drums case is indeed a case of an offer, but the way that it's being deployed it's, that's going to be racing many questions. so far, 30 or 40 years now. the u. s. has often chided latin american countries for prosecuting its own leaders, us mainstream media likes to use terms like banana republic to describe some of these arrests of these presidents in central and south america. do you sense any, have park or sea, or perhaps even irony right now? given this historic moment for the us, there is definitely a high level of the bumper. see a given what is happening that you as an even before. and i have a lot of irony indeed. yes. because uh, the, this idea about, uh, nothing american countries are running a republic says, um, it goes from

a colonial his perspective, you know, and this idea that we kind of go over in ourselves that we need, you know, over 3 years now we need to, you know to us we are told essentially and this call is from the, from the euro. busy uh, when the spanish, the bunch of used the french, the british it took over this land and, you know, do what they need to do with the indigenous population. and it's, if it remains, it may have to say might be or remain. so now we have a us precedent, essentially facing the situation that is um, in the scope, the base to what has happened before in the, in many like in american countries of both to be on. is it nothing america, the interventions or the, the yes, the us interventions they have bein and usually targeting people who represent the national these movements or you know, along political lines like these movements,

communist and socialism. and not so much when it comes to the right wing. so i would say that's mainly the, the biggest difference right now with what we see, we what is happening with all the truck. all right, so let's get into a more specifics of presidents past and present in south america who have faced legal trouble. talk to us a little bit about lula da silva in brazil. he was president from 2003 to 2010, but then he found himself in some legal trouble through what is now known as operation car wash. he was convicted on corruption charges, but then fried and clear to run again in brazil as most recent presidential election against incumbent jr. bull sonata, he emerged victorious and is currently the president of brazil again. but now also, nato might face legal was he. ringback might end up in prison to what's going on with brazil and this sort of ping pong match of political foes behind bars of what

is currently happening in brazil is essentially the return of the rule of law of institution that lady eh, because i think there are more parallels between what is happening to both so nato, to add to what is happening to trump down. what happened to that because it was the big thing uh, filter of the of the use of the judicial system to persecute uh, a person for political gain, political objectives. so what happened in brazil with the job the investigation was that of the united states department of justice initiated these investigation. they initiated to i small prosecutor office in brussels of hardest right. city. and so, you know, and f b i, agents were meeting constantly with uh, with this prosecutors, they charging the case was meeting also was talking to prosecutors directing them on how to, to leave the case towards the worst of workers party who represent that

a, a national project for the project of national development, least i believe 36000000 people that are over the he essentially ended a literacy. he is up in albany or, you know, he doesn't have he, he has, he's gloss. but he's, he was the target of a campaign that sought to remove him from the ballad in 2018. and he was put, embrace on this and pursued that some supreme court, they uh, an old, old, all the evidence which were uh, essentially what they are known as corps. agree. bargained testimonies that were of pain eh, after many trials by the prosecutor about them in any event, by the prosecution to get the testimony that they wanted. that's it. they're all political goals. among all other types of manipulation. i think on the other hand, most of nato t. uh, he is under trial for uh, for corruption, for uh, a different cases. uh,

i believe probably the one that has the most does book nobody's a human keeping. the gifts that the, sorry family gave him. both on idle air, he was also a bar is now from running for office on field 2030 because in the lead up to the 2021 election that he i won't go into gathered. i don't know how many i believe it was about a dawson for a non boss, others in a room and essentially yelled at them about what he said it was gonna be brought committed against against them via the electronic voting system in brazil. so. busy keep track and then if you're late the election result, you knowing that this is where the c minorities to the trunk situation. com concert and what's not always a is a mind that represents the computer, but you know what? whoever present that. she's the, essentially a neo nazi, he's a man of the bus will be leaving the rise of indigenous people. he's the one that believes that corporation should do as they please. i don't know if you remember a, during his tenure and there were these giant,

the forest fires indiana song and they were for a not big part that were initiated by the practices of this corporations with both scenarios. you know, they actually allow them to go in to, to expel indigenous people from their own communities to raise the 9 to, to burn down trees so that they could set up their operations. so if that's the situation in brasil it was a case of law firm that expended are across nothing american right extended to my own country and it was all the other break a scandal. it ended with the persecution of left the seat or 5 go there with the ink cars ration of his vice president autoglass who had spent 5 years in prison. and during night you know, jesus arrives 25 present massacres. he and also at the same time in that by the, not a single other birds executive was never prosecuted. so, so that shows you how did you visual systems in or countries have been a kind of,

uh, turn against a popular projects, a turn against political. and i guess political figures who represent a, in general represent uh the same ideology coming up next. there's only one country in the western hemisphere whose polls show that they are even less happy with their government. then americans find out who when we return with esteban, cardio sit tight. m o will be right back. the the uh, the, the name of

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belief system. so good lou, do what i see these the buses, the little gear limitation says this digital the most of the welcome back to the m. o i manila, chad. while it's no shocker to anyone that in most western democracies, most of the public is never too happy with who they elected to office. i don't know, maybe it's buyer's remorse. maybe it's something else. esteban cut are you. the editor of the cradle is back with us to, i guess try to unpack that. so how about peru, esteban not long ago, just before christmas of 2022, president federal castillo was carted off to jail, immediately ahead of an impeachment vote against him. what were the circumstances

around custio's case, and where is he now? precision is it because figure is a different case. i would say because castillo, essentially what happened. he, he did what uh could we can see there as a self cool. she be so um, apartment, it's a, even though he didn't have the, the legal or the constitutional grounds to do with it. but he did it because he needed to achieve bulk over inability. cuz the us thinking progress on about a year and 5 months into his he's a government that's the you was a real teacher. he came essentially from nothing he's paid. it was 1st left his precedent, but he came to power with the issue. she couldn't a really go over. so when you get this whole time a man when he attempted to be sold parliament, it was because for the past year and a half, she was not able to do anything. he couldn't even swear in his own ministers

because the far right groups in the program congress. but i'm not a bit bit and they would have been launch the launch uh, 3 impeachment proceedings i can just. i mean, the time that she was enough is the one that came out from the moment you step in from the moment she wants to elections the one that came up. so eh, custody, you're also has a, the issue that uh, before he won, she started to distance himself from the, from the region of last, you know, at some point in time. so any want to get with the band event as well and project with the band, because my daughter and then a few months later, she would not get to come much more. uh, nothing america we, we say uh give you, you know, warm water like, or you want to play with everyone, but you have absolutely no strength to do so. so you play to do play to the strength of the other side for all of the media. who have all the preparations and will have the backing up in another state. so not at all. they are being ruled by a precedent of the novel waterbury who goes up to 12 percent approval rating. the congress guys on 99 percent approval rating,

i believe. and customary to these and 71 percent of programs he owes approval model out of it. so that tells you a lot of where, where she stands and she's also b 9 investigated for the depths of about 6. the protestors who died when custody you was put in prison. and so because they are still in prison, she's the reason to be saying that he's the victim of a plot that uh, you know, they tried to do is booking someone. but uh, as far as we know, this is something that uh, submitted it to himself. and then the interesting thing about that was that it was finding and that i, when i was researching is that, um, all the products. and i'm a product key elect the president is that helping elected and producing the mid eighties having the arrested so you know, but those tells you how the corruption runs in the country. yeah, the peruvians are even less happy with their government then. americans are based on these polls. so these incidents with presidents,

they're not isolated to latin america, it happened in france in 2021. but without much global fanfare, certainly not much talk about it here in the us. france being america's oldest ally, saw the former president nicholas circles, the convicted and sentenced to prison for 3 years on corruption charges. they say he quote was influence peddling and violated professional secrecy. hm. that sounds familiar. stateside 2 circles. he is now facing yet another trial. that's scheduled for 2025, around a ledge. money received from the late libyan leader and well marked adolphe star. cosy, who's a lawyer that turned a politician, faces charges of corruption. again, criminal association, illegal campaign financing. and conspiracy in this using libyan public money. your thoughts on circles? the,

i think it's what's most interesting about it is why you said how little it was spoken about, you know, starting to see she is actually not a hasn't been arrest if she has been to think of the utmost detain a she. um, she's, she's got a deal we, we've got ocoee sees very chevy. uh, when i was looking into it, you know, cut off the before nato started bomb being uh, libya about 2 days be. busy worse and nato answered, she said in a television interview that she have given money to. ready pain of, oh sorry cnn to, to wherever you close before you know, maybe it was uh, was the when uh, ams deals with friends. eh, got, be, uh, be suited perry's under uh, services government for the 1st time in 30 years. so it was, uh, you know, like i said, he's very, it's an, he's a very interesting case that he's not spoken about. and i do think there's no spoken about because this is after all, the french leader. and as you said, this is one of the main highlights of the united states,

and at some point it feels like when, when you are a western leader and you align with the, with the, with the aspirations of the united states, you can almost done the wrong yeah, let's not forget that media circus surrounding good off his visit to paris, where he was allowed to pitch a better 110th outside the l as a palace. if we took a wider look at all of these various presidents of these so called democracies all around the world, they're getting done on corruption charges, right. it's the theme for all of these presidents, but yet nobody has been brought up on actual charges like war crimes, crimes against humanity, or anything real like that. not only of the presidents, but people in the administration's. i mean, look at george w bush's people and the lead up to the iraq war. why is it always corruption? but nothing like killing millions of people, i mean, except for so,

but on the lowest of it. but he was tried at the hague, of course, but we don't have enough time to discuss his case. i think that the focus is usually put in corruption because the, the focus wherever puts on on the war crimes on the, you know, legal invasions in the fours western countries to, to confront their own legacy, their own history, which you know, what they have left behind and we're talking about the cypress. he is indicted on corruption charges. so i could see was one of the aspects of the median war. he was a bit of a surprise. was it for his country to start to bump? indeed. yeah. you know, you have about like obama getting a nobel peace prize and she's a man that, uh, a, i think drug more bones at any the president. he's also an architect. they give me a war um that were in syria. so i think of it the focus usually falls on corruption because it's something that allows the western uh,

so called democracies to circumvent the reality of what they have done across the world. because the moment that they have to confront that is the moment. but the car, the cards on file is you know, and don't forget that of the united states, for example, is not a signatory of the international criminal. uh, eh, the international court of justice. you know, the same with israel, which is one of the biggest culprits of human rights abuses of work crimes in the, in, in modern history. so i think it's, it's about that, you know, as you said, these are wide cause are crimes. you know, these are a and then what is the sentence as in the end there is nothing the least. yes, i am very glad that you brought up. maybe nothing yahoo because he keeps flipping through the legal cracks as well. but again, that man would need a whole episode to discuss as well. all right, as the bond patio editor of the cradle dot c o check out his work there. thank you so much for this. very enlightening and fun conversation. all right,

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