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well because some of the headlines were following this hour. you can get more details on r t dot com. next is across to have this episode, this process, the ledge weaponized ation of the anti semitism around the well, stay with all the international, all the hello and welcome across stock. were all things are considered. i'm peter level with western elite spear most is losing control of the narrative, free thinking citizens threatening their power and legitimacy. and example of this today is our legit, antisemitism has been weaponized, criticism of israel or design isn't, is deemed

a stop crime. the, to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess in mirror cash. we have martin jay, he's an award winning journalist and commentator. and in budapest we cross the george samuel. we use a pod cast or at the goggle, which can be found on youtube and locals. right? gentleman cross up rules and back. that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciated head start out with george in budapest. so george explained to our audience, how criticism is a israel is anti semitism because i don't see it that way. this has been an argument that's going on since i was a teenager. i remember there was the united nations security. what was the general assembly vote on equating design isn't with racism, and of course everyone's hair in the political elite was on fire. go ahead, george. what is close criticism of israel is an alta and just saying that there is

another cause. everybody knows this, but it is a very useful way of changing the subject. because lo and behold, more than one months as a lapse and say october, the 7th attacks and then israel's, it savage response to it. and instead of talking about that, instead of talking about the humanitarian prices in dollars, what will, what are we talking about? especially in the united states. well that the students in the uh, the most comfortable uh, pleasant uh, campuses of the united states of feeding on the thread because they are jews. and it goes when you look into it, if i that they are in the under any threat whatsoever. what they are on the thread is hearing views that they don't blind um. and of course the universities have responded by caving and why have

a case because universities of golden rule go to money, money concerns. and that's what they care about. that's what they're in the business of, you know, that's what the university system is. it's all about lazy about it. yeah. and so what's happened is, well see jewish donors of gone to the universities and says that if you will allow these pro palestinian groups to operate on your campus, we're going to pull off funding. and then the atl and the anti defamation league, the side of that, well, hold on a oh, we got to pull the funding. we're going to pressure the government to withhold contracts from the universe. it is a many universes depend entirely, they may be private, but they depend on government contracts. and so it gives the vote is threatened by this all. now, banning all the suited organizations that are advocates on behalf of pakistan if you, even though the names of the universe is the bill of these organizations like jewish

students or palestine insights, but the for those of dekalb beyond to submit to the oh, glad to if you a band as of it, so it's, but why is the this is the very effective because suddenly we're talking about this and when not the bad guys, that it's a very, very skillful change of narrative. yeah. and don't they get the docs in your future prospect? so if you're of, of you university graduates could be a threatened it when they're put on this list. i think in harvard they have like a, some kind of moving van with the images of students with their names and all about just a very intimidating what martin this is, george is absolutely right. this is, you know, shifting the topic, you know, don't, you know, don't talk about a baby's dying and incubators and, and gaza. let's talk about some of the most comfortable universities. students in the world are under so called threat. okay. but it, it, for me, it's an, it's, it's a much large, a in addition and much larger thing. look at,

we have had with co, but you cannot say certain things, okay? if you support trump, you're approved in the apologise, you know, a creating all these speak buying aries. obviously it's not only fake news, but it's big buying aries and it's proscribed. proscribed speech. what you most say thought, what you can say is what you must say. go ahead, mark. hi. all right, that is something that i've witnessed in my search here, plus career that you know from missouri or the days when you called pro, to the binary of the new scene of how news can only be presented to now in 2 groups . black and white, that cannot be any notes in the middle because that takes up an awful lot of time and attention from those who want to shut down debate. so we go for the black and white model, which i so you know, very, very clearly in the mid ninety's when we were approaching home, you saw the same thing, you know, you either with or against most of which and if you are with them or you gotta see 70 st, relatively intelligent. so new eps, you know, people that usually being and try to i'm you council and this. i mean,

george says it reflects and reflects the debate away from say, your example and baby's dying and how he felt of the hospital civil has been sold tons of just transferred up 600 unit elect incubators being switched off. thing that we should be talking about that, but if that were talking about you know, and title spoiled brats on university campuses, you know, who just couldn't cope with, you know too much fast on the meat ball in the crazy. you know, i mean, as professor snowflake generation now, you know, doesn't really know to think it has to be controlled by must media and by the leads and go out and they can they welcome it. they welcome it. yeah, but what worries me is the this, this and to symmetric ultimate, you know, which these are the elite and, and, and tell them hasn't been pumping out since the day of the creation of the, of the, of the states. if we can go to the state, you know, is a great deflection. it's a great way of shopping people down to the very, very effective with europeans in particular. because excuse me, the moment,

but you question the design is entity and what they're doing, you know, somebody says, oh, you're anti semitic. and then immediately that is the code was full color cost. remember the holocaust. right. and so then your opinions, particularly when your opinions, you know, just show up at that point under the saying that it more and what has happened. you know, the combination of the aggregate of that 70 is on is the israel, is because become the new sasha states of the will and is become the new head for the new town. many of the 19 so to use and those those taken everything from the the or putting his presence of a holocaust and of that fascist regime and re implemented it to create a new state of its own working. what worries me about the west is it, when we hit that anti semitic, tell him, it goes beyond just shutting down universities. it actually goes to political leads themselves itself. and we've seen him, but somebody was 2008, seen ken livingstone,

a lady, politician, i'm not particular finals that's resulted because he's typically restorative. i'm factual history that hitler did actually was in cahoots with the german jews, designers of that time in germany and much and so it is $93.00 actually starting to deal with them because both the shoes of family that time hits the volunteer does not mistake the kind of a sudden was full simple to a saying if the paperless supported sign isn't just wrong inside that tool. i destroyed you with this choice. i mean the media just late in swim and with the now is you have to resign from have you know, the legal policy and pay your loans man. so it gets to store, does, it becomes a tool and for this information becomes a tool for manipulate single people doing anything but having that horrible words that everyone wants to ignore debate well, yeah, but that is just the whole point and sure to be it's the denial of debate that is

um criminalizing defend, but it, it's a tool by any business, any lead project be, you know, rush or gave was an a lead project, the or the, the good you ukraine or isn't it lead project? and now we have another a lead project. i mean, it's a, the, the, it, we focus on the message, but really what's behind it is the power to enforce george? that's exactly right. that is, it's very interesting what you said them about in the lead project. and yesterday we saw those massive demonstrations in london in particular is up to 300000 maybe more. but who attended is basically in support of the palestinians in gaza. and i was thinking, well, amazing how there was never any demonstrations like this about ukraine. if you said no one's great about rather through skis out, you know, you know, you know, and so, so is that just so it's a reflection of just, this is something that people really feel strongly about ukraine,

that was something just all sort of on the line and you also have burrell and the rest of them felt strongly about. but of course, this anticipating the charge, the montana goes, he brings up, can living some of those even a more notable example as to how the jeremy called and so it was destroyed. and it was kicked out of the label by the, i mean it's a big, just an extraordinary thing of this man who has been ill brahman and fit within leave of politics, but decades. and i was an adjective to tony ben suddenly. oh, you know he's out and now so, so late, but as far as this up what, what, what position are we going to take? because they don't have a voice any longer. but this is another angle to this, and this is the, the charge you want to disseminate. susan has now become a regular trove of the domestic politics in the united states. and obviously is in the united kingdom, which is the, this is how you get your political opponents. so here now in the us,

the 1st said donald trump, who is nothing, if not all that we pro, is really, i mean, and, and it is door to, you know, the narrative that you converted to judah is a, if you remember, during his presidency, he was a regularly shots with anti semitism when there was that when there was a shooting, i think was in the pittsburgh, the synagogue at some point, did a prizes like he was charged with it. oh, it's old trunk. trump is a generating anti semitism in the united states. i mean whatever quite so the logic of it without from trump is behind this. it just like of the people who criticized your star. if jo, surface featured throughout the well for very good reason, including israel is room very good point including israel. oh, that's anti semitism. give you a gun, bring up joke. sorry. so, you know, you obviously being, i just wanna, it's a way of transposing a domestic cultural politics onto a completely different situation. i mean, there's nothing to do with anything but what goes on in this really,

it's really interesting on the domestic political discourse, not a martin i, i didn't watch it because i, i don't want to waste my my waning years of life and watching the republican debate okay, but i didn't see the eclipse of it. i mean, here's a country that is very serious, economic, structural problems. okay. much higher unemployment, that is being reported in for high inflation. involved in, um 2 major military complex right now. and now a very little was actually said about domestic politics. again, it's a leak project and the republican party is all in probably suppose, lynn, i don't know, but i think uh the same time the democrats, a real going to really go to problem without just images of the bigger one. think time, you know, so where are we going with this? i i tend to stay i, i believe with at both houses. both parties are actually now

convenient and looking at the crisis and garza as it leaks and convenient exit from you, craig. i think that's probably well is going to happen over a period of time. certainly. but the scaling a, you know, also funding is lensky always list because what have been whining about this, what basically not wanting banking, especially going to internet to bake to watch these say please, if you call, give us money lindy's or below you close, then to get a bus to it, you know, that's like, uh, you know, uh somebody who has been in the been a, a, a bankrupt bankrupt the 10 times the going to the high street bank. there's always like the same bank been fried. so can you give me a loan to pay off my, my, my investors. i mean it's, it's absurd by settling here. i'm going to jump in here and we're going to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on anti semitism st with already the

the take a fresh look around his life kaleidoscopic isn't just a shifted reality distortion, but how of tired vision with no real opinions fixtures

designed to simplify will confuse who really wants a better wills, and is it just as a chosen few fractured images presented as 1st? can you see through their illusion going underground? can the welcome back to across stuff where all things are considered. i'm pete a little bell. this is the home addition to remind you. we're discussing anti semitism, the . let's go back to george in budapest, in my introduction, i talked about criticism of israel and of zionism, and i have to admit the, the israel lobby is done a remarkable job over the last 75 years of saying,

you know, there's no difference between israel, judaism in zion is which of course, they are very different. go ahead george, closer and, and that's been a very, very skillful way of essentially demonizing the use of opponents of israel. because even when, you know, you'll be, look at the, the facts on the grounds. and you'll see the see how your, what, what it is early is that the, the, the house getting his reading the project, which is the, in the taking over all the pretty much all of the mandatory power stein then, well, you know, what, what, how, how else can you argue about this? all the, then to the, legitimize the criticism of this. and this has been, you know, very skillfully accomplished, but why it's so a session up. so the argument is that the most provenance critics of design is and have been american jews. i mean i feel he don't know,

don't chomsky was one of the earliest the critics of uh, israel, he himself was a young man at spend time like a book um you know, he had seen uh 1st hand exactly what this in the israel, those are about and we have to remember that's why it has become more acceptable to criticize this trail. um, i think it listens the rise of like the far right. it is really big. it really, it actually began with the middle him, big in, was elected the prime minister. so it's becoming more self aware, we can, you know, criticize this right here and there. but the little blue is the labor body of the soul of last, the liberal left of israel have themselves been impressed to implicated in the plan to essentially, you know, to drive the palestinians offsets era trip to the faucet of the settlements to expropriate funds. and to essentially pursue greater results,

it began on the is ready to leave, but the, so the good israel, the soul of the stores, they will, they, they, they turn the business into an oasis, all of that was completely fraudulent because it was based on the expropriation of land, but you know that, but that was bought of the mythology of israel. so how is it, it's a wonderful place. it was never one to look at. the sco is based on the expropriation and it was done by people whom the liberal left in the west, a duel and all the sort of the golden a is in motion. diane's up was, they've been been go in before that. so it's, it gets convenient to do a tag begun on that's on the yahoo, that the project that whole crate or israel project expropriation perfect, saw that long before them. yeah, because it's learning, you know, they, they talk about the design is a mom. i think most people have no idea actually, but that really means that if you criticize it, you somehow an anti semite, which is in a neither here nor there. but you know, you, you have the new,

the new liberal agenda over the last 50 years is a nationalism is a bad thing. okay. well, is realism, all true, national is country ultra and is going further and further to the right. and the left is essentially collapse, but it zine is and it's very convenient to say design is i'm but if you said the o for nationalist, a visual people say what they say. again, this is a communications gimmick martin, but i think i'll go back to my other point you, i think is the government model of this for it all is actually based on the, the, to the hidden appeared and traveling to, you know, i mean, if you look at if you look at the similarities as quite kidding, you know, it wasn't hitler 30 shut down your position. the control of the media, you know, he created, then the gas hose and then ultimately concentration camps. that's what this one is introduced on in, in particular the last few years. i really up scale the, the humanise ation of about his tenuous but garza is

a concentration camp. you know, the, the, the, the, the, the other thing just do not have any rights. the rights have been slowly eroded on the road in the road. did you know a lot of big things about this argument about attempting to being confused with and to your site is, is that yeah, it's very, very easy for people are on the delivery of this stuff too much. the middle east or, or politics or history of israel to just say, oh, you're racist you onto symmetric because they're criticizing the criticizing. i mean, or the is really late. always had this cup prolonged for so long to not have any criticism. we hope it was a tiny, tiny pockets, a tiny be mama to the european union to show history. well, in 2016, the new uniform policy chief, natalia, and socialist um, suggested that um, goods from israel, which came from the supplement areas, should have a special stick on them to say this has to come from

a settlement area. we don't support that. there's a, you can never go anywhere, it never goes to page. you know, that's the best as problems with gold in the, in europe to actually criticize this entity and look and look at the results. you know, okay, you go some kids and universities were bit scared about the rise of anti semitism again and you are, but that's so much you focusing so much you purposely on the subject. you know what's really happening, which we don't want to look up, is arise, august, never heard of. you know, in europe, you have many is i'm millions and millions of, of versus it is from syria from asking us time for me run from an agent for these places. you know, they've come to you for a better life than what you've been to humanize themselves. they don't get helps. the living of state handle checks every week to buy the food and pay the rent. you know, this is really the issue of him focusing all of this slow and it's, it is a saw. and george mentioned it was something these, throw it people because you know, they come to get the phone back. you know, do you know, trump is on to submit the scenarios i've seen there instead of is many things we

can sort of many things. trump, we get the whole show on what was it about trunk, but you come when you go to much submitted. you know, but this, this argument story been re system. yeah, no good. these things stick. i'm superior argument is the, you know, you said very recently. so british a truck, so how does you know when you have these demonstrations, you know, in a full go. so, you know, this is really against, this is related to, you know, to, jen, i'm and, and then he all can, you said there's always started in germany. you know, you have these demonstrations, him saying there's a very fine line between democratic principles and frisco page and you know, anti semitism. i think they get confused, conveniently too often. and a lot of it, you said focusing the biggest, the biggest level of focusing, which is stunning, is the cough all of the supports that you find in europe in america full of the cycle designed to state for, for, for jose, people and their rights to do whatever they want against a,

a people of palestine to give them a free, or, you know, a couple of strong human rights abuse. people who support that are actually those who don't want the state to fail. because if the state of israel failed to be collapses, the thinking, oh my god, that's millions of jews telling up at heathrow airport. so there's a lot of people to say, no anti semitism, which goes well like the days that the they have pop pockets even great or george because i mean, over the last 2 years, the diminished the, the, the, the demon ization of russians. russo phobia, i'm backing a, a regime in cube that has obvious, fascist, big, neo nazi characteristics. it's been well reported in the main screen. breast black um and just from us. okay. but that's acceptable except apple. you know, so you can, you can take on a, a, a races you against the russians. okay. and promote the racism of, of elements within ukraine against russians. but you can't say anything about

israel and it's behavior for 75 years about displacement of palestinians. it's just, you know, it when you, when you look at it from 30000 feet, it looks very bizarre. george is, there's a very bizarre and that's why it's so extraordinary. this is something that you get these um, kind of liberal media outlets such as the new york times that i was sensitive to any suggestion anywhere. that's something which could be interpreted as a and the submit to and you has when it comes to ukraine, they just simply, you know, they just don't notice it. don't. well, you know the, the swastika. yeah. but that's, you know, that's an ancient hindus and boards. you we, we did a podcast, um that we did a pod cast. um this and i remember in the 1st paragraph, you know, they were 3 instances of, of nazi regatta. oh yeah. no. and by the time we had forensically you called through the bill because it was, well, it's ubiquitous. it went from 3 to ubiquitous charge. that's right. i. but however,

well, when it, when it comes to a trunk, you know, trunk to do those, you know, denounce the something you know, like big money as of, oh well, you know, but donald trump was using an old um anti semitic probe when he uh, denounce the big money and wall street and the influence of big money. uh so that you know that, oh, hyper, since they where are you located says something and why the way of this is, you know, who is clearly giving in, you know, empty. so they take the signal, so if this is what i mean it's, it's always part of the same kind of the cultural of basketball. you know, the, you know, these are your political enemies. so you denounce? no, i mean it's always, this is now be played out on the ride, where there are some people on the right who are anxious to revive the soul of the, the kind of civilizational struggle. yeah. the, the, the, the body is of, of the $911.00. so and like i say,

well this is randy between the judeo christian well and the well, the, the, as long as so basically israel and the, the west there will probably say would you do christian civilization and do it. but, you know, judge, you know, what, that's, it's a very, you know, one of the reasons why they do that is because it is a short circuits international law. no, it's a civilizational truck, a lot of international humanitarian legal problem that's that's, it's a very interesting way. they can shut down that avenue as well. martin, but the guy that had market work, so that might be something i think, i think this thing about the and the anti semitic slow, but what would be the most, i suppose is what i've seen on television in the last few days. you know, we've, we've sent a number of hospitals and goals are shutting down electricity being cut and more children dying. and this is reported as a whole consistent component assessment claims and know? well, i think this is just reported by british journalists who do life links every evening on the periphery of golf. so they don't go in because it's it afraid to come in,

you know, you wouldn't have seen reports inside go. so because you might have to get out some facts, don't we don't, we definitely don't want facts, you know. but then what is reported, i'm hearing it more or more. is it justification now from these general this the, you know, this is acceptable. we should be like, you know, these really isn't the idea of a, have to be doing this. you know, this collective, this one is acceptable and we saw it in the 2nd level and, you know, unfortunately, but you know, this argument, but the idea from the british journalist friends come out with is that, you know, when we belong to these hospitals, you know, we we um, we, we don't see any of these uh how much flights is pulled out the rubble, you know, and, and um, i think this is a florida i argument which suits the, the, is raising the photo over and over again. it, it shows the dental, actually bombing, as well as, but it's, but essentially george, do the real quickly. i mean, we, it, but there, there are above it is necessary to bomb them for peace,

george. 15 seconds. that's why it is a, they are actually just inflicting a mass terror. you know, the, to me a little induce fear. so, well, you know, this is this, this, are you try this again, and we're going to do this even worse. that's all that they're already doing. into the software, the thing they're going to stop and say what we've now killed so many people would as well are gonna have to wait for that moment and then we will discuss it as we move forward. that's all the time we have. want to thank my gets americas and in budapest and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here, our dc and next time. remember, cross talk roles, the name of the big i want to the see at the end of me and say, guess i'm all. what had a little more of a school?

i thought of it either i won't say and stop. i don't like that. it's somewhat of the media, you're not alone, i'm glad you know you got one way just under then use it in data sorta. lemme yeah that up. it's on a k. i knew i love it. it goes to you that, i mean, i think going on because the, i'm a persona of a be that me court that i, i didn't go to almost the end to see the best on that. so no by that and to see if they're going to be single managers and all that, i don't. why don't the user name the age of the modem in california? i'll do the, i see them go, likes it and say i could either of them. but let's see, let me look to see like tennessee, but i'd video in and out of this and fit on. so, being at that point, i see on there the most to boss i need to, i'm let me sadie, one of the media mckinney and the new battery needs to be what somebody that get some given what you're not going to see. ok.