going, i think the 2nd floor on the, on the scenes of display, you have to get in, gather 7 people on that report at the kelvin. these are on the striking roughly in the south. wild dozens opened the the windows fill every inch of space in the hospital. struck stumbling to cope with the scale of the price is in the north of the enclaves, with many children casualties of the conflict. they of them is durham who is on my legs. they are still stopped when i'm alone. my family doesn't know what happened to me. i can't stand up. i want to go home more than anything. i bought a scene in and bassett, a to ross at cal archie the world has missed far too many chances over the years to

bring a justin lasting fees to the mid least being direct initiative. as you put into accounts. if you've got to think about a senior initial know, a new one that has been implemented because of as right people's united states, the mistakes has been make you take in euro. don't. why, why we must be paid that. are these all the headlines of something they just are ease or following that are to the best our watch across both next the hello and welcome to cross stock. were all things are considered on peter level? the west likes to take pride and it's achievements like the import because of

international law. it demands the rest of the world, follow its weight, but the world is in shock over the west unwillingness to criticizing, call loud israel's war on guys. this is the absence of morality, the most talking palestine. i'm joined by my guest, matthew, and rent in montreal. he is a senior fellow at the american university in moscow and director of the rising tide. hide foundation of canada into that and we have a home in brandy. he is a professor at the university of trent. hi, tony in cross top roles and the fact that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate how good it is. go to um, um, put in 1st mohammed, you know, it every once while you get these moments of clarity where things are very, very obvious. they see. and we, we have through the western world through this conflict in gaza in lock step with washington. um this, you know, if you go and look at public opinion, so opposed of the citizenry even in the united states,

a majority including democrats, want to see a ceasefire with the lead. so in the west continue to just throw caution to the wind, throw any kind of sense of, of legitimacy be the entire artifice of international law in the international humanitarian law. over the last 70 years, 80 years is just been completely dashed and thrown into the garbage and the west wants the world to respect it. thoughts and the pole that i saw yesterday actually show that a minority of americans wants the united states to support israel. something in the low, $3030.00 for 37 percent. so the united states is changing. europe is changing, the whole of the global south is shifted. but it eats in the west. they haven't bunch they, they are even worse than what they were in previous clashes or in previous attacks

on guys. because as we all know, gaza has been subjected to carpet bombing on numerous occasions over the years. this time, of course, being the worst. but now that is worse than ever before. we see a stronger consensus that ever before among western leaders and the leads and media in support of the atrocities in support of genocide and in support of method in yahoo in particular. so i think the united states and the europeans have really destroyed themselves. it, this is not just israel destroying itself. and i, i think that's the greatest, the feet for this right of the regime is not the military defeat. that it suffered on october, the 7th, or the intelligence defeated. it's not the military and intelligence defeat that is

suffering now after weeks of battling and getting almost nowhere. but it's, but it's the fact that they are massacring civilians. they're massacring children, live on tv, live online, people are watching it, and they have no regrets. they're making racist statements. a human animal calling palestinians. human animals be netanyahu using biblical allusions to talk about the destruction of the whole of the palestinian people in killing them all using that analogy. and, and also this is riley defense minister and the base, right? the president to sit there are no in a sense in casa, so this brand new regime has destroyed its legitimacy in the eye. is it considered legitimate? and the west has destroyed itself because it is always defined itself or presented itself as our moral mentors uh through through the decades. and as we saw

in ukraine as we seen, all kind of things. but now it's become so disgusting and so open their support for these for what many wrong call a holocaust that to i think it will take decades for them for them to recover if they ever do. you know, matthew they is it mohammad? it's absolutely right. a, you know, i can re, uh, remember that the last time this happened to, to, to guys a you could watch it on, on television. and of course with western media wouldn't show you the, the, the full extent of it. but because of the advancements in social media, you can watch the destruction of a people in real time and it doesn't prefer a stir western awaits it. is it is really quite astounding. i thought the phrase never again actually had some meaning, but it doesn't having any meaning whatsoever. and which makes it even worse is it. public's can watch this in real time. and

a western leaders will not change their position. they're so ideologically possessed. and so politically captured that is a there and it's almost impossible to move them. but it, mohammad is absolutely right. i mean, the, the, the, the court of public opinion is drawing its conclusions and i agreed the global south, if you wanted to control them and kind of control them. it's done, it's over because we'll be talking about this, at least for the rest of my life. go ahead math, you know, you, you said a, i couldn't agree more. and the, the, the fact that even the, this is not it's, it's not even the people of the united states or canada who are marching the millions against us. and in speaking out before, when you will see these images every single day, but even people inside of israel, there are millions of people demanding that in. yeah. who is allister? because frankly, many people there know that they don't want to also be complicit in a genocide or be caught in the middle of

a giant regional war that can spit out of control. i think everybody off the map is not beneficial to anybody. so you have a real contamination, toxic contamination of the culture within the the, the so called a lead chord doors, especially in washington, london, brussels and, and tell of eve, which is which is it a very scary thing and part of the thing that makes it additionally difficult and scary for, for me, and anybody looking at the astrological aspect of this is that as you point out, there are biblical references being put forth by christian design is with the a little bit too much cloaks with the us military industrial complex. and many people around the greater is real factions around b do seem to see that there is a fulfillment of prophecy factors. so while you do have those where incentive eyes to, to carry out acts of a trustee for oil or geo, political, uh, technical issues that we also saw with the war's interact post 911 or even going back to the desert storm. there is,

there are people who do things that are evil for money. there's of this additional factor of crazy that does see some fulfillment of prophecy in the need to re restore what is perceived to be the belief in a, in a greer is real. that involves capturing a big chunk of saudi arabia, interact, and jordan, and a big chunk of turkey and, and some of the israel, egypt, as well as after the arabs are or persian subdued under some superior race. well, but that is a crazy factor. very, do you have a method? what would happen to the rule space daughter i, we only talked about that 15 seconds ago. it's gone. it's gone. how can you mohammed, how could they ever talk about the rules base order ever again? i hope they don't because i never believed in the 1st time go ahead or they can't. and what they've done is that by destroying in, in ukraine, i think they've palmed themselves militarily and they've wrecked their own economies. and we will see that play out in the coming months and years further.

but all in the notes. and of course the euro, new liberalism is itself wrecking the west across the board. but now they are destroying their image alongside the other destructive measures that they've taken in the past. and so countries who were sort of standing in the middle between the chinese and the united states, let's say, are the russians and the united states are the ronnie ends in the united states. which way are they going to tell now the americans and the europeans till now? i've been saying that we are the civilized world. everyone else, therefore, by extension is the uncivilized world. but now people are seeing that the most uncivilized jobs are being kind of carried out by the west. they're even opposing a ceasefire. yeah. of this, this is like, this is unbelievable. in the past, at least they would pretend that they support a piece for us, sees fire,

and then behind the scenes, they'd probably be telling this riley prime minister to, to go on and carry out further attacks. but now far lumens are supporting war. congress people are supporting more senators, are supporting more government across europe or supporting what the german government is saying if you want german nationality after support as well. it is becoming complete. it is becoming increasingly authoritarian. their policies are being open me, china sidle, and they, they lose credibility. so who i mean morality aside for all of us, i'm sure morality is the number one issue, but morales suicide. who wins any one who is opposed to the west? anyone who's seen his arrival to the west, because they're seen as more humane. if they say that the chinese are violating human rights, no one is going to take them seriously. they say that the russians are violating

human rights. no one is going to take them seriously. well, what about the ice? what about the i say say, why should anybody ever take them seriously? go ahead. depo the it just one thing and that it just, yesterday, the, the, were recently the french were saying that now we have to, we're going to call for the rest of the, a syrian positive. it's as of now us, this is detective, close their eyes as this genocide is taking place, the world is watching and then they're talking about the syrian president. everyone sees the hypocrisy now and that's why in the future no one is going to take them seriously. well, in math or, you know, you can, if you, if you have a not line up a major networks around the world, you can watch, you know, this is a moral crusade, moral crusade. we can look at another screen and all you see, or our title of the children prematurely born laid out on a, on a bed altogether. i mean, a dozen or so. and that is moral. what,

where is the morality in that matthew on? yeah, absolutely. and the fact that you, this is the sort of thing that this, that captured people's directions, indignation when we were given stories of saddam hussein soldiers killing champagne . but the problem, so it's worth big stories the, when we say that our real babies. yeah. exactly. yeah. and when we would give our consent to such a, a world historic altering destructive act as we did in early ninety's uh over a liar, approvable, demonstrable lie. and, and then here we are with real images of destruction and genocide against the actual babies. and we're doing nothing but a on top of that, i just read that to tony blair, you know, has just been requested by benjamin netanyahu to, to fulfill his old role as humanitarian coordinator. that, well, i mean, as far as what you guys do as we go to the break, we're ready as we go to a break right now. you know, so they, they, the french want aside arrested, but they won't arrest. and tony blair again,

tell me about the logic of that gentleman. i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on powers wednesday with arkansas. the take a fresh look around his life kaleidoscopic isn't just a shifted reality distortion by power to division with no real opinions. fixtures designed to simplify will confuse who really wants a better wills, and is it just as a chosen few fractured images presented as 1st? can you see through their illusion going underground can how many more boards you uh, live parole?

is there any leaves feel uncomfortable in today's is around because it's, it's become mis sciatic. it's become there right? tween and nationalized races and that's why you had a lot of manage just a lot of demonstrations against the current government. be from the beginning of this year. the . the welcome back across stock. were all things are considered on peter without your mind you were discussing palestine the go back to to them. um, how many you add to the surrealism to all of this as a gaza is being strong kids,

people being forced to move south. these really say the south is safe, but it's far from safe. hospitals are being attacked, claims of command centers underground and oh, they put a video up, but then they deleted it and then changed it then. oh well, i'll get back to that story later. but i'm remarkably, as all of this is going on, we have people like netanyahu and, and president biden talking about what's the day after they call it. okay. i guess the siege is good to continue. the blockade is going to continue. and these people that say they were a represent democracy, they will determine who will roll over the people of gaza. i mean, i can think of a more foolish aaron right now. go ahead and that's exactly what talk tobar. the 7th was all about. it was because of decades of hunger, it was decades of being trapped in a concentration camp, which is now

a death camp. it was about people who are being held in this concentration camp for decades. whereas the land surrounding gaza is where they came from. is where they've been expelled. the problem is the land that was stolen from so if the americans and the europeans think that they can continue with the previous policies of subjugating the policy and people treating them as hooks of human. and that is what they do. it is not just the is riley regime that openly speaks of palestinians as how sub human, which is something that they've done a very openly over the past few weeks, calling them human animals and so on. the president himself. but the europeans treat palestinians as of human. the americans treat them as subs human by keeping them in that concentration camp, trying to isolate them and, and trying to basically make things easier for the as way of the regime. but all

this is going to do is it is going to, to make the hostility towards the west greater than before, not just in palestine. peter that the anger right now towards the west is unprecedented. i've never seen such a thing before in my life. and it is not just in one country, one part of the world, it is across the world. but in west asia, north africa in particular, people are extraordinarily angry. so when they think when they're talking about the day after they should be thinking about their own interest in their, in this region. more than if, again, morality aside. because as you said at the beginning of the program, they have no morality whatsoever. but they're, in general for years, the fact has been that israel has not contributed to western security and western power. israel has always been the opposite. israel has always been costly to west

web security if it wasn't for the apartheid regime if it wasn't for supremacy is in, in palestine, relations between europe and, and west asia and north africa would have been completely different from what they are today. but let us assume that this anger, this year, almost universal anger, anger is able to express itself somehow, politically in the future, in that tomorrow that they are speaking the, the west will lose much more than they've already lost. yeah, it's interesting, matthew is said when we, there seems to be a difference between these rallies in the americans, but that could be just a good cop, bad cop show. i'm not sure i to, i really buy it as being authentic here. but these railey certainly want to in snarl the united states and the west and the few did well when they determine the future of guys and they want other people to have blood on their hands. that's what

i'm saying. whole by the way, they want someone else to pay for it here. i don't know if they get a go that far because i think, you know, when buying made is supportive. what's the surprise visit after october 7th and you've got that bear hug from netanyahu. nobody else wanted to talk to biden. okay . and i, the binding ministration is fumbling, and i think it's, i think it's terrified of what it's gotten to itself into matthew. well, it certainly created a complete quagmire for itself. i mean, there's a defection of many, uh, we'll democrat, we have the adobe get the 3 state department memo. so go ahead. yeah. oh my god. yeah it, there's a complete break of any type of image of coherence. and in a common vision of common opinion, amongst many of the democrats and i mean election season is coming up the i any for me. and a lot of this is that up until the days before october 7th, there is more a motion and dynamic being put into place in the middle east and in southwest asia,

i should say that would have provided for a longer term security guarantees that i've ever seen before, there was a normalization or, or agreement to normalize relations with israel. there was with the built in wrote initiative the international north, south transportation core door. and many of the diplomatic developments that had been initiated by russian, especially by china, through offering vast economic incentives for all varieties of rival nations within southwest asia. to build bridges of diplomatic development around the idea that we can have a long term future. we can build a new economic architecture with the bricks plus nations in the multi polar alliance. there was a real sense that for once, maybe there could be something stable based upon a multi generational economic development orientation that could avoid being sabotaged. and then you have this, and then it's a short period of time. we've seen so much of this trouble up. um, it's very, very nerve wracking to say the least. well, let me, but i mean if it loop all of these, um, um,

diplomatic maneuvers like the abraham accords and all of that here. mean. but there's, there's a lack of morality there. i mean, if you, if you just say the palestinians don't exist. well, if something doesn't exist and then it's not a problem. i mean that's, they're kind of bizarre logic, but these people do exist. they live. i like how you put it. they've been living in an open air concentration camp, which has been turned into a death camp. so, and it should, i would assume a lot of bets are off right now, but i want, i want to make a point out something to is that there's a lot of capitols in, in, in the air, a world that needs to make adjustments as well. there people are furious and that's fury can be directed against them if they do the wrong thing. mohammed exactly, and what we often hear from people in west or, and the think tanks or and reports that are produced in these. what in these think tanks are on the western media,

is that the arrows want normalization. they mean those governments that are largely family dictatorships, they're, they're not elected. and therefore if something happens you're going to, uh, or if there's anchor oil, it's oh and it goes beyond a particular point and it creates instability in any of these countries. that would be very bad news for the west. so the west is losing global or public opinion. it is potentially potentially the stabilizing the region or its allies in the region. but i think most importantly is that by supporting these atrocities in and israel, they have helped to be legitimized. is randy regime in the eyes of the international community. those who thought israel was a legitimate regime. now see that many at the see things very differently

and that is going to have a huge impact. now you see many jews in the united states has right in europe at the forefront of the struggle against apartheid and zionism. people are wait for people's eyes are opening to this reality a reality that many didn't know of before. but now increasingly young people in particular are seeing the facts for themselves. that i think that the fact that so many jews in the united states and a europe are standing up against israel. it's itself diminishes the logic of the regime that it somehow represents jews. which is, i think, a huge injustice to judy is because by committing such crimes, by design as spikes everything, all these crimes and doing it in the name of the jewish people, they are the ones who are actually harming jews. well, it's interesting, matthew,

is that what we've seen a since the establishment, the un establishment of the state of israel? is it? these riley's and their, and their supporters throughout the world want to make judaism and, and zionism synonymous. but there anesthetic cool one is an insult to the other, matthew, that the actual absolutely. i did the just the, the, the very anomaly of millions of jews around the world saying jews against zionism. it should be, it should speak it very loudly. it's not the same thing. you're going to accuse these people of being anti semitic. um no, i mean, i mean the, the fact that even if, when do you want to stablish the state of his realtor? that resolution, he mentioned 47. it also established at the same time, a state for palestine. that's right. well, any one of those 2 aspects were world of abided by and many of the zionist were saying, oh, palestine was never released state. it's like no, it's because you didn't abide by the very same lot of meet you would state. so there's a lot of talks that's built up. okay,

i'm going to go back to what i'm going to finish up the program here. i, i still believe, even though the white house at no displacement, no display is one of the policy of this. this is a, hasn't been played out yet. these railways will do everything they can to push out and, and, and destroy the lives of these people in gaza and the west bank. let's not forget, this is far from over. and i think the machinations coming out of these really leadership is yet to be seen. go ahead. absolutely. first of all, if there's really regime succeeds to carry out this, how that costs in half the cleansing in gaza. what does that mean for the palestinians in the west bank of the same thing can happen to them as well as right . so no matter, i know that the 1st and foremost thing must be to push for cease by the 2nd is to make sure that there's ran the regime is unable to keep any territory in

the gaza strip. but i think the palestinian resistance, how my stomach, joe, hot, the others have already made it almost impossible for this way the regime to win because they have a lot of leverage. they have a city of tunnels under gaza. the is rarely regime has been bombing the city, but they haven't been able to damage the resistance capabilities. and they have hundreds of prisoners or hostages or whatever you want to call them as bargaining chips to release to get get the is palestinians, passages release to thousands of how the city and hostages really, really. so the policy names have a lot of cards to play with, but also it's the duty, the responsibility of civil society, the international community, to put pressure on western governments to force a ceasefire. and to end this, janice very well said very well put, well dental, and that's all the time we have on. i think my gets in montreal engines around and

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