is a in support of israel's guys is actually the reverse. ok. or there was a very unconvincing showing a roster of who is watching the the, the hostages underneath the south to the hospital. actually it was just a calendar in arabic. okay. and then we have american jews against line is i'm being betrayed is you know, right, it's just an out of control, but no, the police of the ones that are right isn't out of control. so it's, it's really turning everything upside down. and as i said in my introduction, these wars in, in ukraine and, and israel, least in, in, in, in, for regard. so they're demanding a ceasefire across the board. something that's bi partisan and in the public. and the more and ukraine is becoming less and less popular among people, but elite don't change. and that's the hypocrisy george the right then it goes,

goes during the now almost 2 years of this war in you pray. and then we have many occasions to point out then while the leads of your, of all the boards sort of on the lions and then the bars jones and then the re, she's soon acts on the microphones. and the searching shows is they constantly talking about ukraine constantly there, raging russia. there was no echo on the public. now. no one's did. was any demonstrations against russia? no one's that was the, any of the mass riley is outside the russian embassy. anyway. it was as far as the, the public listening. so this was a war that should never have stopped it. and that it was, this is something that a government project. now, the same thing is happening in the case of the israel. clearly the public in europe and in the united states wants to cease fire,

will oppose showing the mass demonstrations that we see through in, you know, and, and so many places they have all of them, all ac is high. but how do the leads respond to that? well, but keep talking about october, the 7th says how much is already been more than a month since october? the so they're still told by the pick up, any major newspaper. there's boys going to be getting all the story about what, what, what really happened the, some of them, how people feel and how they respond that the one i have because they continue want to generate this as a, as a means of, of ensuring support for what israel is doing a service of you know, how much they may report. you know, this of that, you know, the always people hospital and so and you know that bad or. yeah. now suppose the 11000 pounds name civilians of the oh, but let's go back to the with a 7 and then how did you feel about when you read about of the size of it?

and of course, you know, like, uh, networks like cnn. um, they have partnered up with the idea of so they, you know, they can be given a, um, uh, chaperones view of things. okay. completely sanitized. there are plenty of outlets that are showing well for quite frankly gentlemen, some of the most terrific things i've ever seen in my life. okay. it is. so her basic, but i'm george brought up october 7th. well martin? well, what actually did happen on october 7th? because that is a, that is a very animated, vivid conversation is true itself, but doesn't seem to get further than that. it's really, it's astounding. and how much western media outlets will speak to a narrative when in israel itself, it is hotly contested. martin, the general is done pretty light to jump a belt with their narrative and you know, follow this adage, a new full and have a change his mind. another tool when, when we say we, when we jets into was, was around the world with generally general,

just like to stick to a single narrative. and when they arrived in ukraine, you the now to was already crafted full them and then cultivated even further by a formidable fake news operation and kiff funded by the americans. of course, the same story and all of that was have come with going right back to you this love you. and i think you know, the same things happened in israel. one of the things that i'm the one of the things that the now and see if this is very hell bent on doing is creating a starting point. this is where the new stuff, you know, i'm so don't waste of time looking at background, a new inspector to waste your time. google's a, it starts on this date, you know? so with ukraine, of course it was in the when, when the, when the russian division and i'm now is israel is october, the 7th. but your question. all right, good question. i might say pizza, i think is going to form an awful lot of people because what we're seeing now is there are future. listen. a very small cub of general is who don't accept the terms

of narrative. i was starting to look very closely at video and other forensic evidence about what didn't happen and what you see when you scrape away the surface . you see a lot of these attacks on the kibbutz. well, not only from the thomas fire and a k 47, so that these poor people, i'm not defending. i told it was pulling, but also the idea of turned up and then put in it and then waited in themselves. and because what we're not reading from west in general is, is the idea funny as real, has a very, very strong policy, rather strongly policy in a lot less than cost just being taken. and we don't read this a lot, but that is the true 7. so they could, books killings a lot of them. now, you know, there's an excellent journalist in and uh, and israel co jones and cook who's expose the cubits claims on the bbc coverage on some, you know, and the same thing goes with the pop concept. if you actually look at the video footage which is available, even the idea if i'm assuming it,

you have hundreds of calls which are just shot to pieces by the high caliber machine guns which can only come from tanks. you know, so that's when the idea of turned up and probably saw a panic and suit of the hundreds of people escaping call. being called, i'm driving and it was sort of directions and they had to be stopped because idea of does not allow its own people to be taken prisoners. and that's a flip side to the also some story which is not being reported a tool, you know, but i think um, i think we are living in an unprecedented age of fake news, which we've never seen before. no, nothing on this scale before, not in ukraine building syria. you know, this, these i'm, i'm sure videos the, the idea. so just collecting the internet with, you know, back, sorry, on such a big way. i mean the whole well, you know, we get to okay, i'm glad you. i'm glad you brought that up because like the even this morning i saw a number of these fake videos amateur videos supported by the israeli stage or a is really media outlets. and if you've been watching a number of

a news outlets that actually already have a unfettered access and you look at the, the videos, these horrific videos and then you look at the fake ones and he, i mean, it just, you just kind of little laugh up your slee behavior, that these, these not even comparable, you know, george, one of the interesting things about the story of october as a sub. and is it, it kind of puts in relief, in a very sharp way is that the adf is willing to kill the palestinians. on mice, it looks like they do it. it gets thrown people too if necessary. you know, george? yeah. so yeah. so the question i think um a lot of very good work has been done by mex boom. and so yes, i saw the interview with chris edges was very good. yes. and that's, that's the lady being the case. and so, you know, we're really, it was sold

a bill of goods off to october, the 7th because the, the story that was put out about the $1400.00 is re these mass, a good, you know, that came, accompanied by a horror stories about mass raids. uh, be headed babies, uh, be the babies being born to in albums. again, you know, babies being ripped out of women's rooms. and so that was essentially put out by these really propaganda machine and would easily repeat the re hashed particularly in the united states among little upon this as of the, you know, these are the barbarians but we are dealing with but interestingly enough, because apparently these horrific in june and bob areas were right now, they're negotiating some kind of a release of hostages with, with, with these ready government and mediated by the united states and cutoff. so how

can they be such a re take uh, barbarians if for sitting there working out some, some kind of the hoc hostage deal largely releasing women and children. but it was very important from the stop to maintain this list as propaganda store. that's why you just keep repeating and repeating it even is more and more of this information is coming out and particularly about how it leaves the is roy, hey, this just simply will just the shooting all over the base. you know, they just do loosely. when i knew exactly what they were doing, that they were killing their own people and you did that. the same is really killing machines, but boy kept putting out the story about, but it was bull hom, us for just a little, you know, mass slow to well it's, it's interesting and it's, it's actually quite terrify. martin is a, some of the commentary, thoughtful commentary about what happened on october 7th, and the israelis that were killed that was pointed out to me that they weren't

netanyahu's supporters, which kind of puts a chill down your, your spine. but i wonder how many of them suppose he's got at the moment. you know, i think we talked a lot about i'm opinion opposed around the world, but i wonder how many people was industry. i'm now with support, a continuation of what's going on and going so you know, it's, it's really substance situation we've got i don't think i've ever seen most of a more incestuous relationship with western media as well as we see today. and i think this is partly funding assessor a feeding into the, the, the, the, the, the madness of missing yahoo. and the way he thinks is that he knows that whatever happens by the house, bad things get, we don't only have media big media in our pocket, you know, we, we can control absolutely everything that they do. i mean, we need on the screen symbols when cnn reports or falls down in the mud. and she

looks at the camera and she's out of breast, you know, and she's talking about what's going on. we need that. we need a title on the screen. we says this was basically made with the help for a more or less completely low stuck in barrel. but the idea of we need an idea of low, good, you know, because that's the kind of reporting that i've been complaining about for years in brussels, where the price is very much to close the institutions and basically accessorize sophisticated stenographer to the narrative. this is taken to a whole new level now and, and his route with, you know, and you've got nearly all of these general is the one i'm starting to see now with the british. and this is the literally repeating idea of talking points. now, you know, you've got people on there who are just literally reading from the script. the date, it's because because it's so much is at stake in their minds here, okay. making any kind of admission to tear and all that gentleman going to jump in here. we're going to go to a hard break and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on palestine and free speech day with our to

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on the same brown colonial uniform which puts the world into the chasm of the 2nd world war. the a welcome back to the past. stock were all things are considered on peter la bell. this is the home and this and remind you were discussing palestine and free speech . the a. let's go back to georgia in budapest, as i said in my introduction. now what another casualty of these complex is free speech and we saw with ukraine. um, you know, in your area, if you're against, with us in the united states and nato is doing your approval apologist it. and all of a sudden it gets so tiresome. it's some, it's even worth repeating, but it's, it's on a very good, like a very different. it's a different magnitude when it comes to. it's always

a different magnitude when it comes to israel. and we saw during, during, particularly the error of trump f, as in steve f, as in 15 to the present. the conservatives, the defending free speech and denigrating those that, you know, but we know people that need, you know, you're too sensitive. you're, you're the a snowflake. you need say spaces, you know, all about mockery. wow. it all came to an end on october 7th, didn't it? sure. did you. so we've had in a recent days, they say extraordinary spectacle. ah, there's a monster censorship of a document that was published more than 20 years ago. this is an open letter bio solid. been logged in to the american people in which he simply re hash. many of the criticisms that many of us have been putting forward against the united states for many, many years. he didn't say anything very new in that. and no one paid any attention to them. he was up on the guardian website since 2002,

and then some younger people discover this and, and record it showed videos of themselves, reciting bits and pieces of it on, picked up. and right away the, the stream went up. take soc is, you know, it's somehow eating in a bad thing. you know, so i'm a bit alive is uh propaganda. it must be taken down big immediately. and dicks up in a country to the claims that is somehow the agency of the cc be picked up and ready to combine down all the videos. and the guardian was a, you know, took down this uh, atlanta. uh there was nothing. it's only the video shows the the extent to which there is just the mom for censorship. and then we've also had the e loan mosque who, who has been within the crosshairs, over, you know,

of many liberals for allowing free speech because he says something on the free speech absolute does. he's not actually, but the claim to be and that was enough to trigger william. okay, so how do your up in the united states? something needs to be done about the law most the u. s. and you know, as, as being only a threatening him for a long time, the european commission said that i'm not going to advertise on, on twitter. i quoted twits, i find it comfortable. it is fine if it's everybody. next, i think we can say twitter x, that's my complement, the whether x and a now with the corporations, all the corporations. i think that's it. we're not what up ibm in the disney disney? so, you know, that's it. we're not doing it. and what, what is it since it's an easy is allowing free speech? i mean it's all i get. well i guess george, this is where we are martin and free speech. it is anti semitism. is that where we are now? i mean, the thing about free speech, and i say this very much from a journalist perspective,

who's been sued at least 6 times by the european politicians with defamation, is to free speech is very much open to subject subjective debates. you know, what is free speech? what i find with free speech is that nearly always really every single time people will see people deletes who complain about with needing free speech and companion for free speech and buying and the drum about free speech and never sincere the never actually really believes in it what they mean is they want to free speech, which works for them. they want a free speech which can be manipulated by wealthy people. and it's already quite well manipulated because what i don't see with that on most can i've been following this to. but, you know, the whole thing about free speech elements because right, and most sense is that free speech is actually pretty ugly. and this is what we don't understand. we don't contemplate because we don't have to accept this in the day and age of social media away. you can just brought people where you can, you know, hiring. we are friends through the same thing and you have this work liberal know since now comes from people, you know, i as of whites, middle class,

middle aged on this, i'm not allowed to talk about racism in the u. k, cuz i'm not qualified because i'm a black. that's how bad it is. that's a ridiculous it is. you know, to free speech is ugly. it really is. okay. you. oh yeah there's, there's an extra wrinkle to it. george of jews against design is and see that's where it gets really sticky for these people. okay. because when you yeah, i think it was union station, you know, or you know, thousands and thousands of american jews dressed identically. never again. not in my name. that's pretty powerful, it's amazingly powerful, and it is the greatest indictment against the design isn't particularly in the united states. how, how do they get out of it? they can't. so they con, you know, we have this a free speech supposedly on university campuses. and as you was saying, the, the, this was the issue is being raised repeatedly by conservative for you know, your list is all the centers for debate over the discussion. and that's where young people go to grow up and realize that they are driven in

a many different views on the world as well as you know, stop, stop being a baby. and the mom saved spaces. um and so, but the, the clearly the only the other day it rashid, to leave, you know, it with no, no, no favorite of mine. you know, the cut off was bad to be, i was over the state university and we've had a whole kinds of associations as universities. you know, what, supposedly all, you know, pro palestinian or aunties really or whatever. and they're getting banned because universities are on the pressure from donors, and they're under pressure of a fear of losing government contracts. and so this is the not, and this goes back to the, the issue with which the ex, that least cobra it cobra powers of very, very susceptible to political active is often, you know, these liberals with themselves very lavishly funded,

often also from the governments. will these various strange organization fighting digital hate fighting discrimination or flight thing at this time? it is a they law the, the is a very good is huge corporations like idea. and then they, these corporations will, the massive the power to bring the boat to a hill. and so it's of, it's very interesting that, you know, even we, we have essentially kind of the liberal left, which supposedly was full free speech are actually very happy that the biggest, all the corporations in the world are, uh, you know, actually tracking down on speed and bringing in the oh that's great ibm, apple dizzily versus you bring in speech. don't have break to thumbs up. but martin kemp and i don't think the liberal left really to believe in the face page. i think this one i don't either. i don't just, i really, that's a really, so i mean, i've been sued by new connect, formulate melita so renders the amount of money in 2000 and so you want to call them in private or and um, you know, um,

well people that knew kinetic or must go any of these leads, don't talk about when they talk about free speech is it, don't talk about defamation most because defamation, those are some advantages and so crafted for the lease a basically built for wealthy people to many play. you can see the status single chops, you know, in a different nation lawsuit against somebody who's got, you know, a few men including the bank and well i went to london and talked to the lawyer as a private guy in a tony and chain smoking young man the 1st thing he said to me is, have you got 25000 pounds? i said 25000 pounds. is that how much this case is going to cost? you said no. that's how much is going to cost just a thought. so there's a little misc, it ill mosque and milk, and you do it up and commission officials and all these people who are battling about free speech are usually from a liberal left. they don't believe of free speech because they never talk about reforming defamation laws. you know, the, the defamation rules are so i'm fairly balanced towards the leads. i'm not to most

independent journalist like me. so that's something like that jumps out, you know, but whenever i think about, when am i here, but we'll see people talking about free speech. i'm reminded of that very funny talk soon in private i of the high court judge in his eighty's leading as a desk. i'm pointing a finger at someone that says right, we've heard your views about free speech now shut up. that really is sums up what the leads think of frequent. i mean that the same thing can be said george is a, you know, a free speech is all nice and fine, but this is real. and zine is a, is of a higher magnitude, a higher cost, and it is the design is in trump's re speech. this is essentially what they're saying. yeah, yeah, yes. that, that's right. and that's why we've, we've seen the deployment of the anti semitism weapons, which is entirely ubiquitous because there's already mean anything. it freezing is an anti semitic, but nothing is anti so exactly. so today, um, you know,

once the game of the guardian is putting out a story on his front page about the, the car or my, you know, the, we go to the game launching a, you know, his campaign with an empty semitic overtones. and we support the united states to the united nations security council. remarkably, it really step it's stuck out. he's like only voted that way. exactly. that that's why it is so ridiculous, but big but this late at this step submitted to so it doesn't, weapon is very, very useful. but to go off to the all political opponents, it was used a great deal against the trunk of, uh, royalties. he is even low, you know, you need the, he did everything that is a law school and then some, and, you know, he has this being always something level because of the indeed 10 scientists max of is. but if i, that's what you do, your, you go up your political brothers, and now with this election, which is now less than a year away,

we're going to hear a lot more of this. a constant drum be of, uh, you know, we saw this uh, we talked about it on the guy go, the economy is about the greatest threat to the world order is a tunnel from getting re elected as president. we have to get to see a lot more of this of the track down of free speech and the enormous anti semitism threat emanating from, from evan burton. because of the being the reach of social media in the end. in specific news outlets, i think it's wearing really saying, i mean they can bang away all they want about what is and isn't anti semitism, what words that are dangerous. but when you look at those images, those videos, you can't and see them in your mind. and it breaks you, it breaks me every time i look at it and it makes me much more result to take on these be go ahead, call me what you want. i don't care. go ahead, mark. yeah. and upsets me a little as well. you know?

but when i see from a distance, when i step back, i see this as a consequence of media eroding their, their own values of a loss, and can't, i mean i've got friends 59 for 30 years in the u. k. who have blocked me now on social media now, because they are obviously not getting on their time lines on their social media feeds. anything relating to the atrocities of palestinians leading up to whatever the sense. well, let me but this is what was happening. and it says what's happened here and hopefully, you know, we had russia gate, i lost a lot of friends of the weight, the 2020 election. i lost a lot of friends, ukraine. i lost a lot of friends. now with the guys i'm losing a lot more friends. okay. if the kids are starting to get obsessed with these certain topics and they can now no longer reason. gentleman, that's all the time we have one. i think, my guess in budapest, any medication, i think our viewers for watching us here at our team. so you next time we member across cycles.

the says 2060 numerous monuments to sort of be as soldiers and potent ukraine and the baltic states have been destroyed, all vandalized fish their stuff, but it must be the most or even some others could i ask if i really so that's the most on whether it's, it's best for them to publish. government denies the rules, so it'd be its own just in the victory of a naziism. and is it raising historical memories of world war 2? it is the 40 percent of your store. although it did seem to notice the range of trustees would remain, thinks in people's consciousness, but have a but as long as russell phobia is profitable and brings dividends, you are willing deva to rewrite the price. yes sir. you start to think up the top of the medium boxes,

i need the seats in the car to talk. so i need to release the boss can do, i just need to get them with key at the washington state. the goal is to begin to complete the rest of the guys just to phone and send that to you for the list of all but huge,

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