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of the united states has been urging american citizens to leave middle eastern countries like 11 on a wrong and israel and will loan americans some money to buy the ticket if needed. harmonically u. s. is more than willing to give $75000000000.00 to ukraine. $3000000000.00, israel and a $100000000.00 to palestine. i'm sure i know he isn't on this edition of 360 view . we're going to ask, is there something wrong about a country willing to find a war, but not fund to their own citizens escaping it? let's get started. the and it seems, there is not a major military conflict. presently,
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united states as well as other western countries do not like. on one end, we had a horrible event happen. one which no country wants, where there is a well organized mass attacked by another on its citizens causing chaos, violence and get, however, well it seemed like israel was going to put the 6th stream, leave full court, press back on god's in response, and solely on their own several weeks later, while there was a strong military operation happening, i feel like israel has backed down from the original. we are doing this our way and on our own strategy. it's almost like they started and looked back and realized they needed some allies. if what i'm reading is correct, maybe it's ro assessed whether or not there are allies like the united states, the kingdom, canada, the members of the issue were actually prepared with military support, including boots on the ground. and there was a lot of talk. but did you realize some of our allies might not be in a strong of
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a position to support them as they once worked? or is this because western countries are finding their own population of citizens and elected officials split on who support they should be going to? well, let's ask our panel of educated guest of the malls berg, conservative commentator and radio host, steve gill, political analyst and radio host. and finally, michael maloof national security contributor former senior security policy analyst in the office of the secretary of defense. thank you gentlemen, for joining me on this issue. very, very important. obviously everything's changing by the day. i want to actually get started off with you, michael maloof. have you noticed a shifter change? do you think? and israel's military strategy from the 1st day to the present, if you believe the rhetoric that you're hearing it is that they're going to try and destroy thomas. so i think that's advice because it's,
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it's not going to happen. number one, and you're going to decimate the area and they have no day after plan with gaza once they finish what their operation is. i in the united states basically is sort of at the mercy of what and yet, and you know, who decides to do he's really got to united states in a very precarious position that though we cannot be, we can give advice, but he's clearly not taking it and as a consequence, he feels that he can do whatever he wants, and we're already hearing his ministers talking about cutting off the head of the snake. and that's iran. so i'm really concerned about things escalating very quickly to iran. and i would have one other thing, look up for hospital, things could really begin to open up on the northern front. and we're going to be seeing a ratcheting up by and those are all of the secretary general. the problem here is that some he, he promised that if the lebanese civilians are killed,
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he's going to start doing the same thing to this re lease of light as well. it just happened. so i'm looking for a potential escalation to occur here almost any time from the north. and we've got to be very, very concerned about that too. mike, almost point joe on this one. can you really take out from us? can we actually radically to mosse without having hives? high uh, unfortunate victims in the case in gaza and it has the right attached to them. i think you can take out the majority of their foot soldiers and gaza, but as we know, their leadership is staying in fancy hotels outside of gaza because they can recruit, they can repay, they can rebuild. so you can't eliminate them unless you literally cut off the head of the snake. and right now the heads of their snakes are living in luxury. well, a lot of people, palestinian civilians and their fighters are dying and gods the state laws for do you think that israel went into this conflict? obviously it was supposedly a very big surprise. i really still have questions about how you could have this
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organized, some of it happen and not have anybody really understand. we know the junctions knew a little bit and tried to warn, but you think is where i went into this conflict with greater expectations when arthur allied, then what has been reality? i think they went in um with a plan and they've been sticking through the plan, and i think they're good to accomplish what they set out to do. but nobody knows better than israel that her mazda is not just in gaza. but there go to a radical, a mazda in gaza, and i think the us is there with their ships. and there's some marine, as we've revealed to the world, to make sure that it has it toward that it has beloved gets involved at the, the, has the read. then the united states will become more involved. i mean, we've already had our troops attack and syria interact by surrogates of iran. we responded uh for the 1st time and it's about time the other day. but, but this is,
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this is a country under attack. we've had, if you listen to alleret via tv, lebanese tv, and on our tv, 3 different hallmarks, leaders, one of them said we're going to do this again and again and again and again. the other one said, oh, it's not our responsibility to take care of the palestinian civilians in gaza. there refugees, that's the u. when's responsibility? and the other one said, look at independence throughout history. any cited all kinds of how many millions of people in each situation you saw, you need to have civilians died, sacrifice versus for independence. and he said the palestinian people are no different. so this is how mosse, in their own words, saying scro the power of city and people. we want this, we want that. so yeah, i mean, israel is doing what they have to do. a mazda is to blame for air, but free thing. and israel's going to keep going,
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and i don't think israel's ever requested or what he would want, but boots on the ground from the united states. that's never been a request of israel. and i don't see that ever happening. michael. yeah, to steve's point how's the law has pledged to protect hom, us, how much in the eyes of husband law is looked upon as the resistance access of resistance. they are going to defend hom, us at all costs. that's why i think a, an escalation in the very near future is almost a minute. and i'm hearing this from people who were weary of it for now are very concerned if from lebanon to iran, and they're in there watching this very closely. they are, they look upon them as resistance fighters and husband, lo will defend the, and i also defend hom, us also. those are all about him. his speech last friday. say,
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stated he didn't care about us carriers to t hads things waiting for them. which indicates to me that they may have a missiles that are they can probably knock out carriers. they have that capability . and that's where a some question is, are we going to call us bluff? well that's it, or we're seeing we're storing, do you think currently from us, from hezbollah, from all of, from, even from iran. are we seeing restrain right now in trying to know they've got to live, but they're not going to cross enough to get a full fledged war with united states or the west. i think they're fighting defensively and gaza, so they're not, you're not, you're withholding anything. they're still holding hostages, they're not releasing and need to get a do you, do you manage hearing aid and guys, are there not showing any uh, willingness to even negotiate the release of real bulk loads of hostage we don't, we don't know of, of the life and and the condition of the hostages, and they're not doing anything to provide that. it is michael pointed out that has
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the lot is sitting there just itching for a fight, and i don't think don't, has been any kind of push back against them. or ron, other been 50 to 60 strikes on us facilities in syria and, and in the rack. no real response from the united states. so if there's any bluff being called, their calls are bluff and so far. and joe, by ducking, ducking for cover, which brings me to my point of view. most barge on this case is, are they basically calling at the bluff of the united states? i still keep saying that i feel like the united states military was expected to do more. yes, we can put our warships out there. but you continue. what is the red line before the united states really gets involved in this besides, i mean, like you said, our soldiers have been fired upon. is it going to take flag draped coffins coming down from the region before we we do more or i, you know, i with, with, with the decision ministration. you never know, i would like to of size that i would have hope that we would have done more already, that we would have sent
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a lot message. and our response to the 1st missiles that came for the to the 1st time our barracks were head, interact and in syria to the 2nd time to the 3rd time to the 4th time. and we've elected to do nothing. i mean, your guess is as good as mine as to what it's going to take. but i think i think that if they push too far and it has blog does get involved, i think you're going to see it's going to evolve into a, a larger scale war. and, and we, i, i know, might go for a long time. i, i always enjoyed, uh, seeing him uh, at our tea and talking to him and i respect him, spoke so what are we so what, what does this real suppose to do? that not, not eradicate the people who will come in again and again and again in their own words and slaughter babies and women and children and take hostages because of this or because of that or because it will escalate, look around is a terrorist nation. the i a told her is probably the biggest terrorist going and,
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and, and that would be, they have to be stopped one way or another one day or another. and if this is a get a lead to that then so big. so michael, does this think i'm a proxy we're right now sort of like what we're doing. seeing and israel and god's is really approx work possibly of united states and iran. well, i think you and have a play the united states will getting get engaged if there's any form of escalation . however, having said that, we did not respond to the shooting down of our reconnaissance aircraft. so what were you near in international waters in yemen? so at the point that steve is making about, the tepid most of this administration, i think it's going to be a very lack luster approach. if hospitalized gets into it. certainly they, they've got targets where, where they of sites that they're gonna try and hit with aircraft. there'll be no boots on the ground. but at, at the same time this, this conflict is not going to be solved ultimately. militarily, it's got to be a political solution. and we've got to have start getting some adult supervision in
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here to, to try and tap down this. now there are efforts and you're hearing it from the you, this is the you don't want the soonest on the sheer to unite. that would be devastated, right now. it's just the sheer. however, if husband are enters into the conflict, you're gonna have a 1000000 sheer from all the, all the countries in the region descending upon israel. in addition to all the, all the missiles they have buried at it, it would be something we would not end up and i'll outcome we would not want. and as a consequence, i think it's really important for us to start working on a political resolution of this. the problem is that net model, i'm going to start right there cuz i want to hear the problem, right? when we get back, because we need to take a break, and when we come back, we're gonna continue is our panel and look at the different responses given by western countries in the present. israel complex versus the response 2 years ago with ukraine. stick around the
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the watching is why is that why in this contort, if i get borrowed money in the store in this, they should have been a short order, but i'm not going to stay less. so could i scan when i am, what i could catch at your desktop session? liam, no, that's just shiny or just is when you buy a new school and you sit on while it's in the the, the, there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is
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the case of the madness of the people. i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also of soon. this is the 3rd world lunacy re washington press for so the funder line likes to say we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deals to living on lives. we have very close propaganda. you know, a price here in new york. i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. some more questions ask the better. the answer is, will be the least. russian states never is as tight as i'm sort of the most sense community invest ingles, all sense enough in the system must be the one else calls question about this. even though we will then
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in the european union, the kremlin machine, the state on the russians per day and split the r t supposed met, keeping our video agency roughly all the band on youtube. the question, did you say even closer to the sky? now here's and you're watching the 360 view we are back, can look at the conflict in israel and gaza with our guest. steve all is virgin, conservative commentator and radio host, steve gil physical analyst and radio hudson. michael is national security contributor, former senior security put policy analyst in the office of the secretary of defense
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. i stopped you at the break before you went into it and you were gonna tell us. yeah, the problem is, right now we have a potential for a settlement of some kind. if not, you know, who will listen the, the, the, the, the saudis and the u. i. e still want know that normalization, they whatever they want to enforce the abraham a courts. that's that will result in a political settlement. however, they want the palestinian issue reserve resolved 1st. okay. that gets back to whether you're gonna have a 11 state or 2 state solution. that is something the pull, the, the political type should be working. the problem is that netanyahu need to survive politically and personally, and as long as he has this war. and then he can escalate it's, he's got this huge so called unified government, they will keep him in office in definitely. and that's what i'm really worried about. because the minute one of his more radical ministers walk this government
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falls and he's been exposed to legal liabilities for previous charges of corruption . he doesn't want that he had his wife both. so he, it's to his, the benefit to try to keep this war going. that's why i think he knew you pointed our little earlier. the objections had told him and he didn't. he chose not to listen. but he knew something was brewing. he probably didn't realize the intensity of the, of the attack, what it was going to be like. and i think that really set, set off the alarms and, and really got the, the, uh, the as rarely people say do something. but steve, i have been told that if this rarely put down their guns today or the if the house is ready for the guns down today, it would make no difference if the past, if the mos put down their guns today, there would be a peaceful state can we ever go back to how it was before? is there ever going to be that trust on one side, from israel to god that they're not going to have a day, like they did
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a few weeks ago? who is israel basically pulled out a gas and said, look, you guys going to have it, build the infrastructure, build the hospitals. here's billions of dollars that good aid is blown in. they haven't built hospitals, they haven't built infrastructure, they haven't built water and electricity. they've of missiles and bombs and fired them into is really civilian communities. they're doing that to that. now all the national media keeps focusing on out of these railings bomb, the very and 1000 some civilians may have died today. they are continuing to fire missiles into disobedient communities, and israel hospitalized doing the same thing. the only one side gets, gets attacked in the national media and in international media. and it's always israel, steve, to agree with that. i do believe that there is also, there is a and you would think considering how much the western government seem to be on the side of israel, at least in the speak with the media. do you believe it? the media is taking a side and this, this argument. oh my god, the media deferred for ever for ever. israel is always held to a higher standard is real, can do no rights and the terrorist already called militants,
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whatever the treated with respect to be. it's a no, it is absolutely evident all over the entire media uh, 99 percent of the journals we just found out cnn. uh, ended inability ation with uh a freelance journalist that they use who is seen caring a grenade, allegedly on the motorcycle as he went in with some us and took pictures of them watching the attack. and these accusations and other media outlets also were involved in advanced warning. but let me just say this to apply that benjamin netanyahu sacrifice his own. people didn't think it would be that many but, but you know, but he was willing to sacrifice so he could stay out of trouble. is, is again, it is an example of the media blaming israel, blaming that been yahoo! when the terrace gum nazis are to blame and as far as a 2 state solution solution, the moderate no,
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this is my router box or holding the box is running gaza. the congress just passed a bill. it's been going on for decades. they teach their children in textbooks, they teach them on tv shows for kids that hate the jews and more. and as long as that's the society, there's not going to be peace. have you seen the home off campus for kids? this is insanity, not one talk about a media. no one talks about it. big teach their kids that hey, and kill that mart of them is the way you can have peace. but the one thing i have to ask you on that is the messiah is probably the 2nd best intelligence in the world says. and they say, suppose that a, c, i a, we can debate that you cannot think that there was not more sort of a warning is what this could not have been a complete surprise considering how well orchestrated is and egypt has had the who's coming. so i might say we 11, we had warnings that was that 911 was going to,
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we had warnings that we had terrorist here that we're training in our pines. we had before always 2020 hindsight is always 2020 and, and again, with when they're training 2500 people to do it. you should get an inkling when they're doing parachute in paris shooting training. they're doing it somewhere. and if we're not keeping eyes on iran where they're doing their training, we should be. so this is a major fault and the intelligence at least a tip of that. and so where is this come from? i think it was a major and tell him what intelligence failure. i think it'd be, it maybe wasn't. i think maybe the house, the sub i know um let me, let me and let me i'm in that. i think the intelligence people knew, they probably told netanyahu, and, and, and he chose to ignore the, the warnings how. how do you know where a, a specific homeless commander lives in the middle of gaza in the middle of nowhere . and yet you don't know that there's all this training going on. i mean, there's something wrong with that. and so, and we, we have eyes all over iran and we didn't know that we didn't see it they,
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they had the same eyes and an answer. so why? oh, how could they not know any of this? and i would add one other thing. iran. i've heard that iran said what we didn't know anything about us intelligence as well around didn't know anything about it. well, i've heard the people who know who are linked in with i r g c. so we knew about it 10 days before the end. the agenda, and that's why they were the state i, i understand. yeah, i just, it was so well organized. it's not taking any of the blame away from my st. garzon, wasn't the mazda did this horrible act, but it's going, how was there not more of a warning, considering there had to be a lot of training that went into this. a lot of preparation went through, but i do have to bring this back home and i do want to ask, steve, do the western countries actually care about their own citizens in foreign countries in times like this? i think um, i'm a little shocked because you back to the media in foreign media, you would think they would be on constantly constantly talking about the hostages
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and, and, and demanding the release and saying, you know, agreeing that any, any ceasefire or anything like that for that is, it's a non starter until the hostages are released. actually don't go by this country as an example. how many times have you heard it without questions coming up from the media? and it's only once in a while. the mention of our hostages released the almost must release, the did them out here so that every day that they at the white house press briefing, they should hold up a picture of one of our hostages and, and, and explain who they are. it just doesn't make any sense. it's very disappointing and discouraging. well, i think something else it doesn't make sense to me. the bill is that i like the 1st week of the conflict that we saw between russia and ukraine. we're seeing politicians on both sides, the aisle or a 100 percent united against russia still didn't have all the information. still definitely media taking a side brands in the west. we're very much united against russia. you saw bank
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account shutting down. everything was stopped up for why are you kind of not seeing that same unity in support of israel in this case, since they are considered to be the victim of a major tech test tech on that day. israel's, and one of the top out as united states, you would have thought you would have seen some of that same mass organization that came out against russia, possibly happy against him, off of the terrace that caused this whole a whole event to happen. i think is you're seeing in the streets in the us, any major capitals around the world, the thousands, tens of thousands that are turning out, supporting these despicable barberic come off. terrorist has created a political problem for folks like divide administration who are trying to threaten needle and not wanting to offend the pro palestine pro home us political effort at us. and it's the same time cater they're jewish based. i think joe biden got about 70 percent of the muslim vote the 4 years ago. there's some pauls that show he's at 17 to 20 percent approval in the muscle community. he's trying to make sure he
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plates that base before he gets cost and electric power does have been different right now mike, i wonder if there was not the conflicts going on now and was 2 years for ukraine and russia. if that had all been settled, if we'd have to use that, how would this be different today with what's going on, stays around. we would need another war soon enough. so this one came along just just in time. and, and so that's why you're, you're seeing this dilemma. it just so happens that the israelis have and, and have great or a good i bet, much better lobbying group in congress. then they then the ukrainians do. and besides that, ukraine is have a history of a lot of corruption. we're seeing a lot of the arms that go into ukraine of wind up in, in mexico with the cartels. how does that happen? yep. and you're seeing a lot of the arms, possibly that's on the for this small is where i'm coming to you on this. you see a lot of those same arms happening, being carried by law. the mos that, you know, maybe we left the data center on account of before and you create, how do you think this battle be different if there was actually had, we had
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a peace agreement between russia and ukraine like was originally brought, was supposed to be a broker the 1st 3 weeks today, we had better intelligence to say that this was going to be coming to israel. but 1st of all, let, let me, let me just say that i can sit here as a jew and not take notice. i know he didn't mean it, but the, the powerful jewish lobby. they get $3000000000.00 a year for is real. if you added up, if, if it is real, got $3000000000.00 a year for set the 75 years they've been in existence. it wouldn't equal what ukraine has already gotten. and in this package, the 14000000000 to is very old with the great lobbyist is for a bite and he wants in this package for ukraine. so what you said, does it make any sense, michael, with all due respect, and as if there, if there was no new cray more going on? if it's, i think what's holding it up in the senate, to be honest with you, is that the house also tied a car they, they found a way to pay for it by cutting i r. s. agents that were going to be hired. that
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what's holding it up in the senate more than just it's an individual package for israel. but steve, you don't have, you don't have the, you don't have the you, you don't have the, the congress of our, i should say, you don't, you don't have the ukraine having our heart to fleets to back it up directly. simply because we don't have a, we don't have an opposite, like russia and ukraine to go up against. and, and so that, that costs a lot of money there. this thing came on. so suddenly i think that it's that, that if they could get that the initial money, in addition to what they get now is they're going to be getting all of the other arms that we, we, we provide and they do get open, open ended assistance. it's much, much more then then the then you, then you really see. so consequently, the, the ukrainian thing is something that has got to take, take a back seat at this point. first of all, we don't have the we are stockpiles are draining well and that's the thing. that's
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the question. is washington dc ready to see crane take the backseat that they've been looking for it out. but that's a question we're going to ask, pat, hold over for another show. thank you gentlemen, for joining me on this conversation. now there is a no pre determined timeline or even a magic 8 ball to predict what will happen next. and the conflict between israel and gaza. however, if history has taught us anything, the only known factor is as long as the west is involved with the complex. there will be no peace in the middle east, the sky now using this has been your 360 view of the news affecting you. thanks for watching the
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as soon as 2060 numerous monuments to serve as soldiers in poland, ukraine and the baltic states have been destroyed or vandalized fish their stuff, but it must pharmacy certainly within. yeah. unless or even some others could ask if i'm in the field that's the most on whether it's, it's especially almost between the police government denies the rule of so it'd be its own just in the victory of a not system. and is it raising historical memories of world war 2? is the 40 percent your story. although it did seem the non supervision names of trustees would remain, thinks in people's consciousness forever. but as long as russell phobia is profitable and brings dividends, you are willing to have a to rewrite the past. yes, the list of the provider is leaving a message. i need to see because it looks like so. i need to leave
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the, the, a breeding ground for disease, that's how the w h o describes guys is biggest hospitalized assessed on the territory stores because 13000, we're exclusively from one of its representatives. it's not a hospital anymore. as we said, it's the best. so people on the ground, they've been saying, definitely not dying by problems with dying of disease. and this is now the scenario with facing aid workers transferred 28 out of 31 premature babies in critical condition from gaza. they'll shape a hospital to egypt as, as the children's desktops, as the crisis began. reach us at 5500 and is really protest or is it gather near the unit stuff building and tell them.

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