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the real world ukraine is already getting into fights with european countries most recently, poland. den slovakia whose truckers by the thousands happened blockading roads to 3 border crossings with ukraine to for days now. and effectively blocking humanitarian aid into ukraine all because they're fed up with their own governments and action as they lose business to for and competitors, all of this because they feel well, things are not going very well. and maybe you frame complex and well, there isn't even an engagement date in site right now between ukraine and the you let alone a wedding date and already there's trouble in paradise. rachel, many thanks for that proposed allstate contributor rachel most and many banks. so you'll company this tuesday though, so for me, for today, but pay to scores will be with you at the top of the, with overlay to the
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united states has been urging american citizens to leave middle eastern countries like 11 on a wrong and israel and will loan americans some money to buy the ticket if needed. however, honestly do us is more than willing to give $75.00, a $1000000000.00 to crane $3000000000.00 to israel and a $100000000.00 to palestine sky. now he has it on this edition of 360 view. we're going to ask, is there something wrong about a country willing to find a war, but not find their own citizens escaping it? let's get started. as the it seems there is not a major military conflict. presently, united states as well as other western countries do not like. on one end, we had
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a horrible event happen. one which no country wants, where there is a well organized mass attacked by another on its citizens causing chaos, violets. and yet however, while it seemed like israel was going to put the 6th stream, leave full court press back on god's in response and solely on their own. several weeks later, while there was a strong military operation happening, i feel like israel has backed down from the original. we are doing this our way and on our own strategy. it's almost like they started and looked back and realized they needed some allies. if what i'm reading is correct, maybe it's ro assessed whether or not there are allies like the united states, the kingdom, canada, the members of the issue were actually prepared with military support, including boots on the ground. and there was a lot of talk. but did you realize some of our allies might not be in as a strong of a position to support them as they once worked?
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or is this because western countries are finding their own population of citizens and elected officials split on who support they should be going to? well, let's ask our panel of educated guest, a females berg, conservative commentator and radio host, steve gill, political analyst and radio host. and finally, michael maloof national security contributor, former senior security policy analyst in the office of the secretary of defense. thank you, gentlemen, for joining me on this issue. very, very important. obviously, everythings changing by the day i want to actually get started off with you. michael maloof, have you noticed a shift or change? do you think an israel's military strategy from the 1st day to the present? if you believe the rhetoric that you're hearing it is that they're going to try and destroy thomas. so i think that's what advice because it's, it's not going to happen. number one,
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and you're going to decimate the area and they have no day after plan with gaza once they finish what their operation is. i and the united states basically is sort of at the mercy of what and yet, and you know, who decides to do he's really got to united states and a very precarious position that though we cannot be, we can give advice, but he's clearly not taking it and as a consequence, he, he feels that he can do whatever he wants. and we're already hearing this, the ministers talking about cutting off the head of the snake. and that's iran. so i'm really concerned about things escalating very quickly to iran. and i would have one other thing, look out for hospital, things could really begin to open up on the northern front. and we're going to be seeing a ratcheting up by uh, nose right off the secretary general. the problem here is, is that some he, he promised that if love any civilians are killed, he's going to start doing the same thing to just rarely civilians. well,
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it just happened. so i'm looking for a potential escalation to occur here, almost any time from the north. and we've got to be very, very concerned about that too. mike, i'm always point, go on this one. can you to take out from us to we actually replicate them off without having hives. high uh, unfortunate victims in the case in gaza and it has the right attached to them. i think you can take out the majority of their foot soldiers and gaza, but as we know, their leadership is staying in fancy hotels outside of gaza because they can recruit, they can repay, they can rebuild. so you can't eliminate them unless you literally cut off the head of the snake. and right now the heads of their snakes are living in luxury. well, a lot of people, palestinian civilians and their fighters are dying and goes a steve malls or do you think that israel went into this conflict? obviously it was supposedly a very big surprise. i really still have questions about how you could have this organized, some of it happen and not have anybody really understand. we know the junctions
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knew a little bit and tried to warn, but you think is were went into this conflict with greater expectations. weight are allies, then what has been reality? i think they went in um with a plan and they've been sticking to the plan, and i think they're good to accomplish what they set out to do. but nobody knows better than israel, that her mazda is not just in gaza, but there go to a radical take a mazda in gaza. and i think the us is there with their ships. and there's some marine, as we've revealed to the world, to make sure that it has it toward that it has beloved gets involved at the, the, has the read. then the united states will become more involved. i mean, we've already had our troops attack and syria interact by, sorry, gets overrun. we've responded uh for the 1st time. and it's about time the other day. but, but this is, this is
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a country under attack. we've had it. if you listen to alleret via tv, lebanese tv, and on our tv, 3 different hallmarks, leaders, one of them said we're going to do this again and again and again and again. the other one said, oh, it's not our responsibility to take care of the palestinian civilians in gaza. there refugees, that's the u. when's responsibility? and the other one said, look at independence throughout history. any cited all kinds of how many millions of people in each situation decided to have civilians died, sacrifice versus for independence. and he said the palestinian people are no different. so this is how mosse, in their own words, saying, scrub the palestinian people, we want this, we want that. so yeah, i mean, israel is doing what they have to do. a mazda is to blame for every 3 thing. and israel's going to keep going, and i don't think israel's ever requested or what he would want,
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but boats on the ground from the united states. that's never been a a request of israel. and i don't see that ever happening. michael. yeah, to steve's point how's the law has pledged to protect hom, us, how much in the eyes of husband law is looked upon as the resistance access of resistance. they are going to defend hom, us at all costs. that's why i think a, an escalation in the very near future is almost a minute. and i'm hearing this from people who were weary of it for now are very concerned if from lebanon to iran, and they're in there watching this very closely. they are, they look upon them as resistance fighters and husband, lo will defend the, and i also defend hom, us also. those are all about him. his speech last friday. say, stated he didn't care about us carriers, the heads, things waiting for them,
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which indicates to me that they may have a missiles that are they can probably knock out carriers. they have that capability . and that's where a some question is, are we going to call us bluff? well that's it, or we're seeing we're storing, do you think currently from us, from hezbollah, from all of, from, even from iran. are we seeing restrain right now in trying to know they've got to live, but they're not going to cross enough to get a full fledged war with united states or the west. i think they're fighting defensively and gaza, so they're not, you're not, you're withholding anything. they're still holding hostages, they're not releasing and need to get a do you, do you manage hearing an aid and guys, are there not showing any willingness to even negotiate the release of real bulk loads of hosses? we don't, we don't know of, of the life and, and the condition of the hostages and they're not doing anything to, to provide that. and as michael pointed out, has the law is sitting there just itching for a fight, and i don't think don't,
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has been any kind of push back against them. or ron other been 50 to 60 strikes on us of facilities in syria and, and in the rack. no real response from the united states. so if there's any bluff being called, their calls are bluff and so far, joe, by ducking, ducking for cover, which brings me to my point of view. most barge on this case is, are they basically calling at the bluff of the united states? i still keeps saying that i feel like the united states military was expected to do more. yes, you can put our warships out there, but you continue. what is the red line before the united states really gets involved in this besides, i mean, like you said, our soldiers have been fired upon. is it going to take flag draped coffins coming down from the region before we we do more. and i, you know, with, with, with the decision ministration, you never know, i would like to of size that i would have hope that we would have done more already . that we would have sent a blank message. and our response to the 1st missiles that came for the to the 1st
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time our barracks were head, interact and in syria to the 2nd time to the 3rd time to the 4th time. and we've elected to do nothing. i mean, your guess is as good as mine as to what it's going to take. but i think i think that if they push too far, and if his beloved does get involved, i think you're going to see it's going to evolve into a, a larger scale war and, and with i, i know mike called for a long time. i, i always enjoyed, uh, seeing him uh, at our tea and talking to him and i respect him, spoke so what are we so what, what does this real supposed to do? that not, not eradicate the people who will come in again and again and again in their own words and slaughter babies and women and children and take hostages because of this or because of that or because it will escalate, look around is a terrorist nation. the ayatollah is probably the biggest terrorist going and, and, and that would be, they have to be stopped one way or another one day or another. and if this is
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a get a lead to that, then so big. so michael, does this think i'm a proxy we're right now sort of like what we're doing its thing and israel and god's is really approx work possibly of united states and iran. well, i think you and have a blade united states we'll getting get engaged if there's any form of escalation. however, having said that, we did not respond to the shooting down of our reconnaissance aircraft. so what were you near in international waters in yemen? so at the point that steve is making about, the tepid most of this administration, i think it's going to be a very lackluster approach. if hospitalized gets into it. certainly they, they've got targets where, where they of sites that they're gonna try and hit with aircraft. they'll be no boots on the ground, but at, at the same time this, this conflict is not going to be solved ultimately. militarily, it's got to be a political solution. and we've got to have to start getting some adult supervision in here to,
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to try and camp down this. now there are efforts and you're hearing it from the you this it's, it's the, you don't want to assume he's in the sheer to unite. that would be devastated, right now. it's just the sheer. however, if husband are enters into the conflict, you're gonna have a 1000000 sheer from all the, all the countries in the region descending upon israel. in addition to all the, all the missiles they have buried at it. it would be something we would not end up and i'll outcome we would not want. and as a consequence, i think it's really important for us to start working on a political resolution of this. the problem is net net model. i'm going to start right there, cuz i wanna hear the problem, right? when we get back because we need to take a break. and when we come back, we're gonna continue is our panel and look at the different responses given by western countries. and the present is real complex versus the response 2 years ago with ukraine. stick around the,
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the russian states never is as tight as i'm one of the most sense community best. most all sun set up the same assistance must be the one else calls question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin mission, the state on the rush of funding and supports the r t supposed neg, keeping our video agency roughly all the band on youtube tv services for the question, did you say you requested the
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sky now who use and you're watching the 360 view we are back. can look at the conflict in israel and gaza with our guest. steve balls, burger, conservative commentator and radio host, steve gill, physical analyst and radio, hudson. mike, i'm a live national security contributor former senior security policy analyst, and the office of the secretary of defense. i stopped you at the break before you went into it and you were gonna tell us. yeah, the problem is right now we have a potential for a settlement of some kind. yeah. yeah. yeah. who will listen. the, the, the, the, the saudis and the u. i e still want know that normalization they whatever they want to enforce the abraham a courts. that's that will result in a political stomach. however they want the palestinian issue reserve resolved 1st.
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okay. that gets back to whether you're gonna have a 11 state or 2 state solution. that is something that the political type should be working. the problem is that netanyahu needs to survive politically and personally, and as long as he has this war. and then he can do escalated these, got this, you so called unified government that will keep him in office in definitely. and that's what i'm really worried about. because the minute one of his more radical ministers walk this government falls and he's been exposed to legal liabilities for previous charges of corruption. he doesn't want that theater, his wife both. so he, it's to his, the benefit to try to keep this war going. that's why i think he knew you pointed our little earlier. the directions had told him and he didn't. he chose not to listen. but he knew something was ruined. he probably didn't realize the intensity of the, of the attack, what it was going to be like. and i think that really set,
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set off the alarms and, and really got the, the, uh, the as rarely people say do something. but steve, i have been told that if this rarely for down their guns today, or the if the house is roads for the guns down today, it would make no difference if the past, if the mazda down their guns today, there would be a peaceful state. can we ever go back to how it was before? is there ever going to be that trust on one side, from israel to gaza? they're not going to have a day like they did a few weeks ago. is israel basically pulled out a gas and said you look, you guys can have it, build the infrastructure, build the hospitals. here's billions of dollars that good aid is blown in. they haven't built hospitals, they haven't built infrastructure. they haven't built water and electricity. they've of missiles and bombs and fired them into is really civilian communities. they're doing that to that. now all the national media keeps focusing on out of these ravings bomb, the very and guys and some civilians may have died today. they are continuing to fire missiles into the civilian communities and is real hospitalized doing the same
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thing. the only one side gets, gets attacked in the national media in an international media. and it's always israel, steve, to agree with that. i do believe that there is also, there is a and you would think considering how much the western government seemed to be on the side of israel, at least, and the speak. but the media, do you believe is the media is taken aside and this, this argument, oh my god, the media deferred forever forever. israel is always held to a higher standard is real, can do no rights and the terrorists are called militants, whatever the treated with respect to be. it's a no it's, it's absolutely evident all over the entire media uh, 99 percent of the journals we just found out cnn. uh, ended inability ation with a freelance journalist that they use who are seeing tearing a grenade allegedly on the motorcycle as he went in with us and took pictures of them watching the attack. and there's accusations that other media outlets also
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were involved in advanced warning. but let me just say this to apply that benjamin netanyahu sacrifice his own. people didn't think it would be that many but, but you know, but he was willing to sacrifice so he could stay out of trouble. is, is again, it is an example of the media blaming israel, blaming that been yahoo! when the terrorist gum nazis are to blame and as far as a 2 state solution solution, the moderate no, this is my buddha boss, or holding my food, a boss who's running guys up. the congress just passed a bill. it's been going on for decades. they teach their children in textbooks, they teach them on tv shows for kids that hate the jews and more. and as long as that's the society, there's not going to be peace. have you seen the home off campus for kids? this is insanity, not one talk about a media. no one talks about it. they teach their kids that hey,
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and kill that mart of them is the way you can have peace. but the one thing i have to ask you on that is the messiah is probably the 2nd best intelligence in the world citizen. they say, suppose it a, c, i a we can debate that you cannot think that there was not more sort of a warning is this could not have been a complete surprise considering how well orchestrated is and egypt has had the who's coming. so i might say we 11, we had warnings that was that 911 was going to, we had warnings that we had terraced here, that we're training in our plains. we hadn't been always 2020 hindsight is always 2020 and, and again, with when they're training 2500 people to do it. you should get an inkling when they're doing parachute in paris shooting training. they're doing it somewhere. and if we're not keeping eyes on iran where they're doing their training, we should be. so this is a major fault and the intelligence at least a tip of that. and so where is this come from? i think it was a major and tell him what intelligence failure. i think it'd be it maybe it wasn't . i think maybe the house, the stuff i know um let me let me and let me i'm in that. i think the intelligence
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people knew, they probably told netanyahu, and, and, and he chose to ignore the, the warnings how. how do you know where a, a specific homeless commander lives in the middle of gaza in the middle of nowhere . and yet you don't know that there's all this training going on. i mean, there's something wrong with that. and so, and we, we have eyes all over iran and we didn't know that we didn't see it they, they had the same eyes and an answer. so why? oh, how could they not know any of this? and i would add one other thing. iran. i've heard that iran said what we didn't know anything about us intelligence as well around it, know anything about it? well, i've heard the people who know who are linked in with i r g c. so we knew about it 10 days before thing on the agenda and that's why they were the state i, i understand. yeah, i just, it was so well organized. it's not taking any of the blame away from my st. garzon
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was the mazda did this horrible act, but it's going, how was there not more of a warning, considering there had to be a lot of training that went into this. a lot of preparation went through, but i do have to bring this back to when i do want to ask steve, do the western countries actually care about their own citizens in foreign countries in times like this? i think um, i'm a little shocked because you back to the media in foreign media as you would think they would be on constantly constantly talking about the hostages and, and, and demanding the release and saying, you know, agreeing that any, any ceasefire or anything like that but that is, it's a non starter until the hostages are released. actually don't go by this country as an example. how many times have you heard it without questions coming up from the media? and it's only once in a while. the mention of our hostages released the almost must release, the did them out here so that every day that they at the white house press briefing,
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they should hold up a picture of one of our hostages and, and uh, and explain who they are. it just doesn't make any sense. it's very disappointing and discouraging. well, i think something else it doesn't make sense to me. the bill is that i like the 1st week of the conflict that we saw between russia and ukraine. we're seeing politicians on both sides, the aisle or a 100 percent united against russia still didn't have all the information still definitely media taking a side brands in the west were very much united against russia. you saw bank account shutting down. everything was stopped up. why are you kind of not seeing that same unity in support of israel, in this case, since they are considered to be the victim of a major tech test tech on that day, israel's, and one of the top out as united states, you would have thought, you would have seen some of that same mass organization that came out against russia, possibly have it against him off of the terrace. did that cause this whole a whole have been to happen? i think, is you're seeing in the streets in the us. any major capitals around the world, the thousands, tens of thousands that are turning out,
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supporting these despicable barberic come off. terrorist has created a political problem for folks like divide administration who are trying to threaten needle and not wanting to offend the pro palestine pro him us political effort at us. and it's the same time cater they're jewish based. i think joe biden got about 70 percent of the muslim vote the 4 years ago. there's some pauls that show he's at 17 to 20 percent approval in the muscle community. he's trying to make sure he plates that base before he gets cost and electric power does have been different right now mike, i wonder if there was not the conflicts going on now and was 2 years for ukraine and russia. if that had all been settled, if we'd have to use that, how would this be different today with what's going on, stays around. we would need another war soon enough. so this one came along just just in time. and, and so that's why you're, you're seeing this dilemma. it just so happens that the israelis have and, and have a great or a good, a much better lobbying group in congress. then they then the ukrainians do. and
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besides that, ukrainians have a history of a lot of corruption. we're seeing a lot of the arms that go into ukraine of wind up in, in mexico with the cartels. how does that happen? yep. and you're seeing a lot of the arms, possibly that's on the for the small is where i'm coming to you on this. you see a lot of those same arms happening, being carried by law. the mos that, you know, maybe we left the data center on account of before and you create, how do you think the spot will be different if there was actually had we had a peace agreement between russia and ukraine like was originally brought was supposed to be a broker the 1st 3 weeks today, we had better intelligence to say that this was going to be coming to israel. but 1st of all, let, let me, let me just say that i can sit here as a jew and not take notice. i know he didn't mean it, but the, the powerful jewish lobby. they get $3000000000.00 a year for is real. if you added up, if, if it is real, got $3000000000.00 a year for set the 75 years they've been in existence. it wouldn't equal what
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ukraine has already gotten. and in this package, the 14000000000 to israel with the great lobbyist is for buying it wants in this package for ukraine. so what you said, does it make any sense might go with all due respect. and as if there, if there was no ukraine more going on, if it's, i think what's holding it up in the senate to be honest with you, is that the house also tied a car they, they found a way to pay for it by cutting i r s. agents that were going to be higher than what's holding it up in the senate. more than just it's an individual package for israel. but steve, you don't have, you don't have the, you don't have the, you, you don't have the, the congress of our, i should say, you don't, you don't have a ukraine's having our, our to fleets to back it up directly. simply because we don't have a, we don't have an opposite, like russia and ukraine to go up against. and, and so that, that costs a lot of money there. this thing came on. so suddenly i think that it's that,
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that they're, if they could get that the initial money in addition to what they get now, if they're going to be getting all of the other arms that we, we, we provide and they do get open, open ended the assistance it's much, much more than then the then you then you really see. so consequently, the, the ukrainian thing is something that has got to take, take a back seat at this point. first of all, we don't have the we are, stockpiles are draining well and that's the thing. that's the question. is washington dc ready to see crane take the back see that they've been looking for an out, but that's a question we're going to ask pat, hold over for another show. thank you gentlemen. and for joining me on this conversation. now there is a no pre determined timeline or even a magic 8 ball to predict what will happen next and the conflict between israel in gaza. however, if history has taught us anything, the only known factor is as long as the west is involved with the conflict, there will be no peace in the middle east and sky. now he's and this has been your
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the disagreements between israel and have must, is within reach us according to pick top who's mediating that sold. a prison swap is expensive to be part of any deal, which was the concept by the concept based minutes and the quoted to not the smallest. meanwhile, we talked about the large number of children's variables. but when you look at how operations on children are done without done, this is something else entirely. all these events are a direct consequence of the us desire to monopolize this mediation functions in the user any palestinian conflicts. but besides the brakes online, some it's called a c 5 posted release, unpolished and independence. that says guys are waiting on use of
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