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talk, but it is real realized some of our allies might not be in as strong of a position to support them as they once were. or is this because western countries are finding their own population of citizens and elected officials split on who support they should be going to? well, let's ask our panel, i've educated guess the malls berg, conservative commentator, and radio host, steve gil, political analyst and radio host. and finally, michael maloof, national security contributor, former senior security policy analyst, and the office of the secretary of defense. thank you, gentlemen, for joining me on this issue. very, very important. obviously, everythings changing by the day i want to actually get started off with you. michael maloof, have you noticed a shifter change? do you think an israel's military strategy from the 1st day to the present? if you believe the rhetoric that you're hearing it is that they're going to try and
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destroy hama, so i think that's advice because it's, it's not going to happen. number one, and you're going to decimate the area and they have no day after plan with gaza. once they finish what their operation is, i and the united states basically is sort of at the mercy of what and yet, and you know, who decides to do he's really got the united states in a very precarious position. that though we cannot be, we can give advice, but he's clearly not taking it. and as a consequence, he feels that he can do whatever he wants. and we're already hearing this, the ministers talking about cutting off the head of the snake. and that's iran. so i'm really concerned about things escalating very quickly to iran, and i would have one other thing. look out for hospital. things could really begin to open up on the northern front. and we're going to be seeing a ratcheting up by uh, nose right off the secretary general. the problem here is,
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is that some, he, he promised that if the lebanese civilians are killed, he's going to start doing the same thing to this re lease of light as well. it just happened. so i'm looking for a potential escalation to occur here. almost any time from the north and we've got to be very, very concerned about that too. mike, almost point. go on this one. can you really take out from us? can we actually eradicate him off without having hives? high uh, unfortunate victims in the case in gaza. and it has the right attached to them. i think you can take out the majority of their foot soldiers and gaza. but as we know, their leadership is staying and fancy hotels outside of gaza because they can recruit, they can repay, they can rebuild. so you can't eliminate them unless you literally cut off the head of the snake. and right now the heads of their snakes are living in luxury. well, a lot of people, palestinian civilians and their fighters are dying and gods. a steve malls, where do you think that israel went into this conflict? obviously it was supposedly a very big surprise. i really still have questions about how you could have this
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organized. some of it happen and not have anybody really understand. we know the junctions knew a little bit and tried to warn, but use like israel went into this conflict with greater expectations with our allies, than what has been reality. i think they went in um with a plan and they've been sticking through the plan, and i think they agree to accomplish what they set out to do. but nobody knows better than is real, that how mazda is not just in gaza, but there go to a radical take a mazda in gaza. and i think the us is there with their ships. and there's some marine, as we've revealed to the world, to make sure that it has it toward that it has beloved gets involved in the, the, has the ran. then the united states will become more involved. i mean, we've already had our troops attacked in syria, interact by, uh, sorry, gets overrun. we responded uh for the 1st time. and it's about time the other day.
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but, but this is, this is a country under attack. we've had it. if you listen to alleret via tv, lebanese tv, and on our tv, 3 different hallmarks, leaders, one of them said we're going to do this again and again and again and again. the other one said, oh, it's not our responsibility to take care of the palestinian civilians in gaza. there refugees, that's the u. when's responsibility? and the other one said look at independence throughout history, and he cited all kinds of how many millions of people in each situation decided to have civilians died. sacrifice force for independence. and he said the palestinian people are no different. so this is how mos, in their own words, saying, scroll the palestinian people, we want this, we want that. so yeah, i mean, israel is doing what they have to do. a mazda is to blame for every free thing and
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is really going to keep going. and i don't think israel's ever requested or what it would was, but boots on the ground from the united states. that's never been a a request of israel. and i don't see that ever happening, michael. yeah, to steve's point. hospital has pledged to protect hom, us, a thomas in the eyes of husband law is looked upon as the resistance access of resistance. they are going to defend hum us at all costs. that's why i think a, an escalation in the very near future is almost a minute. and i'm hearing this from people who were weary of it, but now are very concerned in from lebanon to iran. and they're in there watching this very closely. they are, they look upon them as resistance fighters and how's below will defend the and i also defend hom, us also. most of all i had a speech last friday say,
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stated he didn't care about us carriers. t hads things waiting for them, which indicates to me that they may have a missiles that are, that can probably knock out carriers. they have that capability. and that's where a some question is, are we going to call us bluff? well that's it. are we seeing restoring, do you think currently from home, us, from hezbollah, from all of, from, even from iran? are we seeing restrain right now in trying to know they've got to live, but they're not going to cross enough to get a full fledged war with united states or the west. i think they're fighting defensively and gaza, so they're not, you're not, you're withholding anything. they're still holding hostages, they're not releasing and need to get a do you, do you manage hearing an aid and guys, are there not showing any willingness to even negotiate the release of real bulk loads of hostage we don't, we don't know of, of the life and and the condition of the hostages, and they're not doing anything to to provide that. and as michael pointed out,
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that has the lot, sitting there just itching for a fight. and i don't think, don't there's been any kind of push back against them or ron, are there been 50 to 60 strikes on us of facilities in syria and, and in the rack? no real response from the united states. so if there's any bluff being called their call in our bluff and so far a joe by ducking duck in for cover, which brings me to my point of view, most bars on this case is, are they basically calling at the bluff of the united states? i still keeps saying that i feel like the united states military was expected to do more. yes, we can put our warships out there. but you continue. what is the red line before the united states really gets involved in this besides, i mean, like you said, our soldiers have been fired upon. is it going to take flag draped coffins coming down from the region before we do more? and i, you know, with, with, with this, it ministration, you never know, i would like to of size that so i would have hope that we would have done more
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already, that we would have sent a blank message. and our response to the 1st missiles that came for the to the 1st time our barracks were head, you know, rack and in syria to the 2nd time to the 3rd time to the 4th time. and we've elected to do nothing. i mean, your guess is as good as mine is to what it's gonna take. but i think i think that if they push too far and it has ballade does get involved, i think you're going to see it's going to evolve into a, a larger scale war. and, and with i, i know might go for a long time. i, i always enjoyed does seeing him at r t and talking to him and i respect him so. so what are we? so what, what is this real supposed to do? that not, not eradicate the people who will come in again and again and again in their own words and slaughter babies and women and children and take hostages because of this, or because of bad or because it will escalate. look, a ran is a terrorist nation. the ayatollah is probably the biggest terrorist going and, and,
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and that would be, they have to be stopped one way or another one day or another. and if this is a get a lead to that, then so be it. so michael, does this look? i'm a proxy we're right now sort of like what we're doing. seeing and israel and god's is really approx work possibly of united states and iran. well, i think you and have it. i believe the united states will getting get engaged if there's any form of escalation. however, having said that, we did not respond to the shooting down of our reconnaissance aircraft. so what were you near in international waters in yemen? so at the point that steve is making about the tepid most of this administration, i think it's going to be a very lack luster approach. if has blog gets into it. certainly they, they've got targets where, where they of sites that they're going to try and hit with aircraft. they'll be no boots on the ground. but at the same time this, this conflict is not going to be solved ultimately. militarily, it's got to be
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a political solution and we've got to have start getting some adult supervision in here to, to tie and tamp down this. now there are efforts and you're hearing it from the you, this is the you don't want the soonest on the sheer to unite. that would be devastated, right now. it's just the sheer. however, if husband law enters into the conflict, you're gonna have a 1000000 sheer from all the, all the countries in the region descending upon israel. in addition to all the, all the missiles they have very at if it would be something we would not end up and i'll outcome we would not want. and as a consequence, i think it's really important for us to start working on a political resolution of this. the problem is that net model, i'm going to stop right there cuz i want to know the problem, right? when we get back, because we need to take a break, and when we come back, we're gonna continue with our panel and look at the different responses given by western countries. and the present is real conflict versus the response. 2 years ago with ukraine,
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don't so long. as you know, mit thank you m. when you're in the room, you will get on to to ship us. like i said, i am pacific left on the sky. now he is and you are watching the 360 view we are back. look at the conflict in israel and gaza with our guest. steve malls, burger, conservative commentator and radio host, steve gil, physical analyst and radio host. and mike, i'm a live national security contributor former senior security policy analyst in the office of the secretary of defense. i stopped you at the break for you went into it and you were gonna tell us. yeah, the problem is right now we have a potential for a settlement of some kind. yeah. yeah. yeah. who will listen. the, the, the, the, the saudis and the u. i e still want know that normalization they whatever they
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want to enforce the abraham a courts. that's that will result in a political so much, however, they want the palestinian issue reserve resolved 1st. okay. that gets back to whether you're gonna have a 11 state or 2 state solution. that is something the pull, the, the political type should be working. the problem is that netanyahu needs to survive politically and personally, and as long as he has this war. and then he can do escalated these, got this, you so called unified government that will keep him in office in definitely. and that's what i'm really worried about. because the minute one of his more radical ministers walk this government falls and he's been exposed to legal liabilities for previous charges of corruption. he doesn't want that. he had his wife both. so he, it's to his, the benefit to try to keep this war going. that's why i think he knew you pointed our little earlier. the objections had told him and he didn't. he chose not to
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listen. but he knew something was ruined. he probably didn't realize the intensity of the, of the attack, what it was going to be like. and i think that really set, set off the alarms and, and really got the, the, uh, the as rarely people say do something. but steve, i have been told that if this rarely put down their guns today, or the if the house is ready for the guns down today, it would make no difference if the past, if the mazda down or guns today, there would be a peaceful state. can we ever go back to how it was before? is there ever going to be that trust on one side, from israel to guys that they're not going to have a day like they did a few weeks ago? is israel basically pulled out a gas and said, look, you guys going to have it, build the infrastructure, build the hospitals. here's billions of dollars that good aid is blown in. they haven't built hospitals, they haven't built infrastructure, they haven't built water and electricity. they've of missiles and bombs and fired them into is really civilian communities. they're doing that to that. they're all
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the national media keeps focusing on out of these railings bond in an area and gods and some civilians may have died today. they are continuing to fire missiles into the civilian communities and is real hospitalized doing the same thing. the only one side gets, gets attacked in the national media and in international media. and it's always israel, steve, to agree with that. i do believe that there is also, there is a and you would think considering how much the western government seemed to be on the side of israel, at least, and the speak. but the media, do you believe is the media is ticket aside and this, this argument? oh my god, the media had this for, for ever, for ever. israel is always held to a higher standard is real, could do no rights. and the terrorist already called miller teens. whatever the treated with respect to be, it's a no, it is absolutely evident all over the entire media uh, 99 percent of the journals we just found out cnn. uh, ended in a building ation with uh, a freelance journalist that they use who is seen caring
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a grenade, allegedly on the motorcycle as he went in with us and took pictures of them and watching the attack. and there's accusations that other media outlets also were involved in advanced warning. but let me just say this to apply that benjamin netanyahu sacrifice his own. people didn't think it would be that many, but you know, but he was willing to sacrifice so he could stay out of trouble. is, is, again, is an example of the media, blaming israel, blaming that been yahoo! when the terrorist gum nazis are to blame. and as far as a 2 state solution solution, the moderate no, this is my buddha boss, or holding my food, a boss who's running gaza. the congress just passed a bill. it's been going on for decades. they teach their children in textbooks. they teach them on tv shows for kids that hate the jews and more. and as long as
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that's the society, there's not going to be peace. have you seen the home off campus for kids? this is insanity, not one talk about a media. no one talks about it, big teach their kids that hey, and kill that mart of them is the way you can have peace. but the one thing i have to ask you on that is the messiah is probably the 2nd best intelligence in the world. citizen, they say, suppose it a c i a we can debate that you cannot think that there was not more sort of a warning is this could not have been a complete surprise considering how well orchestrated is and egypt has had a good day told me that it was coming or so i might say we 11, we had warnings that was that 911 was going to we had warnings that we had terrorist here that we're training in our pines. we had before always 2020 hindsight is always 2020 and. and again, with when they're training 2500 people to do it, you should get an inkling when they're doing parachute and pair shooting training. they're doing it somewhere. and if we're not keeping eyes on iran where they're doing their training, we should be. so this is
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a major fault and the intelligence at least a tip of that i think has come from i think it was a major and tell him what intelligence failure. i think it'd be, it may be, it wasn't, i think maybe the house, the stuff i know um let me, let me and let me i'm in that. i think the intelligence people knew they probably told netanyahu. and, and, and he chose to ignore the, the warnings how, how do you know where a very specific homeless commander lives in the middle of gaza in the middle of nowhere. and yet you don't know that there's all this training going on. i mean, there's something wrong with that. and so, and we, we have eyes all over iran and we didn't know that we didn't see it they, they had the same eyes and, and, and so, so why, oh, how could they not know any of this? and i would add one other thing. iran, i've heard that iran said what we didn't know anything about it. us intelligence as well. you run did know anything about it. well, i've heard the people who know who are linked in with i r g c. say we knew about it
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10 days before the, again, the a to, and the, and that size, they were the state i, i understand the, i just, it was so well organize, it's not taking any of the blame away from my st. garzon was the mazda, did this horrible act, but it's going, how was there not more of a warning, considering there had to be a lot of training that went into this, a lot of preparation went through. but i do have to bring this back to when i do want to ask steve, do you think western countries actually care about their own citizens in foreign countries in times like this? i think um, i'm a little shocked because you back to the media in foreign media as you would think they would be on constantly constantly talking about the hostages and, and, and demanding the release and saying, you know, agreeing that any, any ceasefire or anything like that could not be is it's a non starter until the hostages are released. actually don't go by this country as an example. how many times have you heard of it without questions coming up from
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the media? and it's only once in a while. the mention a par hostages, release the a must, must release the data i'm out here so that every day that they at the white house press briefing, they should hold up a picture of one of our hostages and, and uh, and explain who they are. i, it just doesn't make any sense. it's very disappointing and discouraging. well, i think something else it doesn't make sense to me. the bill is that i like the 1st week of the conflict that we saw between russia and ukraine, where same politicians on both sides. the aisle or a 100 percent united against russia still didn't have all the information still definitely media taking a side brands in the west were very much united against russia. you saw bank account shutting down. everything was stopped up for why are you kind of not seeing that same unity in support of israel in this case, since they are considered to be the victim of a major tech test tech on that day. israel's, and one of the top out as united states, you would have thought you would have seen some of that same mass organization that
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came out against russia, possibly have it against him, off of the terrace that caused this whole a whole event to happen. i think is you're seeing in the streets in the us, any major capitals around the world, the thousands, tens of thousands that are turning out, supporting these despicable barberic come off. terrorist has created a political problem for folks like the by the administration who are trying to threaten needle and not wanting to offend the pro palestine pro home us political effort at us. and it's the same time cater they're jewish based. i think joe biden got about 70 percent of the muslim vote. 4 years ago. there's some polls that show he's at 17 to 20 percent approval in the muscle community. he's trying to make sure he plates that base before he gets cost of electric power. this has been different right now, mike, i wonder if there was not the conflicts going on now and was 2 years for ukraine and russia. if that had all been settled, if we'd had peace that, how would this be different today with what's going on, stays around. we would need another war soon enough. so this one came along just
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just in time. and, and so that's why you're, you're seeing this dilemma. it just so happens that the israelis have and, and have great or a good i bet much better lobbying group and congress then they then the ukrainians do. and besides that, ukrainians have a history of a lot of corruption. we're seeing a lot of the arms that go in the ukraine of wind up in, in mexico with the cartels. how does that happen? yep. and you're seeing a lot of the arms, possibly that's on the for the small is where i'm coming to you on this. you see a lot of those same arms happening, being carried by law. the mos that, you know, maybe we left the data center on account of before and you create, how do you think this battle be different if there was actually had, we had a peace agreement between russia and ukraine like was originally brought, was supposed to be a broker the 1st 3 weeks today, we had better intelligence to say that this was going to be coming to israel. but 1st of all, let, let me, let me just say that i can't sit here is a jew and not take notice. i know he didn't mean it, but the,
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the powerful jewish lobby. they get $3000000000.00 a year for is real. if you added up, if, if it is real, got $3000000000.00 a year for said the 75 years they've been in existence. it wouldn't equal what ukraine has already gotten. and in this package, the 14000000000 to israel with the great lobbyist is for a bite and he wants in this package for ukraine. so what you said, does it make any sense, michael, with all due respect, and as if there, if there was no ukraine more going on? if it's, i think what's holding it up in the senate, to be honest with you, is that the house also tied a car they, they found a way to pay for it by cutting i r. s. agents that were going to be hired. that what's holding it up in the senate more than just it's an individual package for israel. but steve, you don't have, you don't have the, you don't have the you, you don't have the, the congress of our, i should say, you don't, you don't have the ukraine having our heart to fleets to back it up directly.
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simply because we don't have a, we don't have an opposite, like russia and ukraine to go up against. and, and so that, that costs a lot of money there. this thing came on. so suddenly i think that it's that, that there, if they could get that the initial money in addition to what they get now, if they're going to be getting all of the other arms that we, we, we provide and they do get open, open ended assistance. it's much, much more then then the then you, then you really see. so consequently, the, the ukrainian thing is something that has got to take, take a back seat at this point. first of all, we don't have the we are, stockpiles are draining well and that's the thing. that's the question. is washington dc ready to see crane take the back see that they've been looking for an out, but that's a question we're going to ask to hold over for another show. thank you gentlemen, for joining me on this conversation. now there is no pre determined timeline or
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even a magic 8 ball to predict what will happen next and the conflict between israel in gaza. however, if history has taught us anything, the only known factor is as long as the west is involved and the conflict, there will be no peace in the middle east, the sky now using this has been your 360 view of the news affecting you. thanks for watching the the think that would inform you to with them for the gift, but the sort of celia was missed because they did just wouldn't care to give the car through the new year. oh for g for i teach the way. know if i'm reaching the
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the, with the end of world war one, the movement for an indian independence from the british empire flared up with renewed vigor. the british responded to the growth of the national liberation movement with arrest and brutal violence. repression cause active resistance in march 1919 at the call of mahatma gandhi, how peaceful strike began in the country. but the british responded with a new round of violence and far bade the indians to gather more than 4 people on the day of the sea bass. at t festivals,
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a huge crowd of civilians gathered in the center of the city of i'm gonna start in northern india seeing base as outright defiance. general reginald dyer gave the order to open fire on the on arms people. the barbaric execution claimed the lives of at least 379 indians, including 40 children, the youngest of who was 6 weeks old. the indian national congress considered the official figures to be underestimated and announced the death of more than $1000.00 civilians. the well known radius newspaper, the morning post called dyer, the man who saved india, gave him a sword and 26000 pounds sterling as a token of gratitude for the massacre. the amorous dar massacre went down in history as one of the most brutal crimes of the british invaders, and only escalated the affair. struggle of the indians for liberation from the
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colonial yoke. the of the source agreement between israel and total loss is within reach. according to the tar, which is mediating the tops and our chief source says, a prisoner swamp is expected to be part of the have somebody deal which was earlier confirmed by the gods, or based military men, the ongoing diplomatic efforts, the world health organization warns be humanitarian the crisis that guides and hospitals remained a rustic needs for epidemic and marketing the 10 year anniversary of the euro might on to any crane with such a country down the top of the complex team today. so those are the headlines we're following here on our to international up next, the documentary molly or of our trunk looked at the company struggle to port a passport, a more equitable.

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