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the hello and welcome across the top where all things are considered on peter lavelle. ukraine is on a losing streak. i just can't get a break is counter offensive as an odor. catastrophe is reputation for gross mismanagement and corruption is on display. there is zelinski fatigue and now the gods. a war. the west gambled in last times to end this conflict. the cross. how can you create, i'm joined by my guess, larry johnson in tampa. he is

a managing partner with burg associates or former c i a analyst, and us state department counterterrorism official in miami. we have nicholas davies . he is co author of war and ukraine making sense of a sense was conflict. and here in moscow we crossed the dimitri bobbitt. she is a political analyst and editor at, you know, it's me internet media project, the gentleman crossed top roles. and if that means you can jump any time you want, i'll let me go to larry 1st here, i mean, things are going pretty bad for ukraine. i don't even know where to begin. i hinted towards it in my introduction. where would you begin larry? when penny print skirt, the new newly appointed envoy by joe biden, to handle the ukrainian affairs shows up and basically tells the lensky uh so uh, can you get along without any money from us? that's a clear sign that the things are not going well. they're already starting to appear videos on telegram with the pension errors in ukraine,

yelling and being quite upset because they're not getting paid. so there on, there is no single point of light for ukraine. and this is sort of ironic or it's, it's symbolic is uh, you know, that part of the world descends into winter and dark this. uh, ukraine is headed into great darkness. yeah. well nicholas, um, you know, i don't like to use the phrase i told you. so, but those of us that bit are serious about following this conflict. predicted this almost to the ti. i mean, this is the way it was going to work out. but the problem is, so many people have died in the process and ukraine as a functioning civil society is teetering right now. and you hear all of these kind of voices in the background. no one wants to be the 1st to say, well, something has to be done about it. you know, you can go through, you know, even the mainstream media and their whispers and, and rumors and innuendos about,

you know, what needs to be done because everyone knows it's an older catastrophe and failure . nicholas. yes, and the catastrophe is, is, is really the direct result of the british, an american decision in march and april. yep. up to $22.00, to kill the peace talks, kill the neutrality agreement. and while now we are hearing a lot of voices in the us and in the west, and who are ready to make territorial concessions. when not hearing from uh, from leaders in the west is the recognition that a new traveler, the agreement, is what is needed for ukraine. as zelinski said on march the 27th of last year, to as quickly as possible,

restore peace in our native land. and that's of course what bar as johnson went to kids and talked him out of um, so the needs to be the recognition from western leaders that, that new trinity agreement it or some foam, as new traveler, the for ukraine is key to a lasting, stable resolution of this conflict, and i don't see that happening yet. yeah. and nicholas to add onto it. let's remind our viewers. zelinski at the exact moment that you mentioned there. he was asking to give up what he did not even have. he didn't have crime in it. and he didn't have the down bass now his loss so much more. so at that point he was, he was asked to give up something that he didn't have. that was not as hard as it seemed the most. let me read you some headlines here. top zalinski aid questions,

ukraine survival, another one. ukraine must brace for the loss of us support. read this is coming out of to, i mean, these are not river. i know republicans saying they're going to cut off the funding . i mean, these are the, this is the client states saying, you know, you let us down this path. now what demo as well, yes, uh, basically we have the is, uh, silver o, scandalous articles. uh there was, uh, the handle uh you agree and all full service and what was the, what is that, what was the, was said that the, the premium for this. and the russians was wondering, the dental that there was no between, sorry, the people are just dying for nothing. then uh, there was a report from uh, simon schuster you know, which described to the atmosphere around your desk. yes, very much that must be around the kids were in the, into the joins his last mom's in the imperial, transitory inches bunker. ah,

so basically you, well, the western media are starting to raise a wall. so the assumption is wrong that they expect its victory. you know uh from that so hold counter offensive. thats mystery will never come. and uh and then uh we've had these depressed and not to go from brent by the a few days ago by steam the washington post. but right to there, he was not a she did not write a single word about compromise. she kept comparing the roster to come us, which is absurd. and which is simply counter productive. and she kept saying that the investing money, and i'm sorry, people, you know, the war in your brain. and the, in the warren guys have was i told the investment. yeah, i mean this is just terrible in south coast and it's only,

it's only strengthens the result will reference between all these branch. so you know, the basement of rocks. and this leads from that even the games, the pretty base, you know, basically where for example, the whole dollar rolling games. you know, the why the other organizations, i've seen that one too bias this least woke up at school. so they're just uh can basis rochester, that there is no other way we must we because we even lose where we're down. yeah, i mean, we will not be treated as human beings anymore. yeah. well, you know, larry, i don't think joe biden knows the difference between a mouse and homeless, but that's not the topic of the program. larry, you know what? one of the most important misunderstandings and false narratives that we have had all about this complex. it's about territory, it's not about territory at all. we go back to the very beginning, the knots vacation, that means the regime in care of and it's in its satellite,

figures must go. this is ultra nationalism must go. i mean, in the last new cycle we had an, an uh, ukranian official saying, you know, russian, you know, russian is, and russians are not even in minority and they don't exist in ukraine. okay. that's very much like what we hear about the what, what the israelis have to say about palestinians. again, another topic, the 2nd one was a di, militarization, and that's what's happening. what is really remarkable, gentlemen, over the last couple of days or so we had officials and caves if there was never a counter offensive. what are you talking about then you it's still become, i mean this is, this is a kind of delusion that they're living in larry. and i have never seen this kind of disconnect from reality. among people who are actually, you know, they're educated and experienced people. richard hawes and that good lord, he's, you know, he's been around for 40 years going back to the 1980s. he was sort of a protege of henry kissinger and he writes with charles culture, i have

a piece of foreign affairs that is so out of touch with i. on the one hand they admit what's going on, taking place on the ground in ukraine. the ukraine is losing that ukraine hasn't made progress. and yet they didn't turn around and pretend that ukraine still has a chance. it doesn't. the it's gone is over. it's a, it's like that seen from the movie dumb and dumber where jim kerry is asking this woman who's already rejected and said no other, you know, basically no way i'm going out with you and he goes. so there's still a chance. yeah. there's no chance in yeah, i really liked the dumb dumb or because i think that really, yeah, it's i, i always kind of look for those analogies, but it's probably because i'm sorry, keep going larry. what, no, i just gonna say, in fact, the guy, some dumb and dumber are smarter than these policy makers that we see in the west.

they continue, as you said, they focus on this notion that all russia last territory. completely ignoring the fact that when russia withdrew its tank and columns from north of kia on april 1st started on april. first, we began that withdrawal that was always presented in the west as russian to feed. and, but we now know that that was a goodwill. good faith gesture by putting in order to say ok, we're good, we're serious about this piece negotiation and that the united states and nato were the and so full, sab, a tours, and that process and destroying that peace process. nicholas, the problem is that the overarching problem is, is that the west nato world is never recognized that russia has any legitimate security interest. yeah, i mean the, the,

and this is why they are now starting to aim for a frozen conflict with, by, you know, drawing new lines on the maps are ukraine, but not actually resolving the underlying conflict. and um, you know, they, they want to have another roll, the dice, uh, at a later, later date. and so you know, that way they're willing to negotiate some sort of ceasefire and, and some sort of territorial settlement that the, like all these of the frozen conflicts around the world. and of course once again, back to palestine, is that the most terrific one we're seeing right now? um but that's uh, so sit. so yeah, when you look at the highest and cub chance, which is who is say what they the 2 of them have been saying all the long. um, essentially this is yeah. that they,

they are accepting. they are accepting the neo cons. yeah. oh of a u. s foreign policy. they know that victoria newland, and antennae blinking well the nicholas i moved up here because we have to do our break. but they the way they phrase it, they always probably will get to find that will give the russians an offer. and that's how they do it. it's hilarious. okay, gentlemen, i have to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on you can stay with our to the, the, the,

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ok, let's go back to the demon here in moscow as the, these ridiculous narratives. the person there, there was no counter offensive a it's a stalemate. no, it's not a stalemate. i this good. when we cease people say it, it just makes the round. so it really is very irritating here, but, but, but demons, what are the, what are the problems is here is that why would rush should be in a rush because everybody says the putting this thinking this, the crime, one thing says they have no idea what they're thinking i always find it appealing to who on the bbc at what point is thinking this or not? i have no idea how they know these things. okay. what the russians are in a rush for good reasons. daemon. yes. and uh, basically uh, the western media contradicts itself on the long term, the rise that the roster jones of the war of attrition. that basically your brain is running all the resources unless we help. there is that sense of agency we need

to help as soon as possible. otherwise they're great and probably will collapse and all the other crimes they say, oh, you did is not deliberate. and what he promised to deliver. uh, probably they say the origin with okay, some, some of the media say that which will have to hardy out because he does it next as before, you just a few months ago and the old, easy as they said their connections and roger made no sense. so there's a lot of contradiction in what we hear from the west. uh, but the reality is indeed that the roster, even the loan rock is stronger and the there is absolutely no way you can do 9 years old. so grey means old community and all that, and people don't boss all 3000000, all that they will never, never agree to leave it be under the premium. got uh, the premium troops. if the,

our, our, uh, try to answer the standard you will meet real good, real resistance, not the kind of, the real resistance. that's what was pro, store us by the west, the media. and they've never realized, i mean, that you bring in on it turned out much stronger than the worst expected. but there was no real a garage room was good to you. i'm meant which, which, which was processed by the western media. and indeed, the in terms of what his thoughts as solidly turned out that the world is not so much determined by the west to the quantity as you can while the for them is you can sell oil, not only do they your be union and not on the uh to japan, who can sell it to india. you can sell it to china. you know, uh, basically country is over uh, brakes. uh, getting more and more of importance van d. b is already exceeding the g d p over there. just uh, so uh there was a lot of things that the west did not include any concrete populations when the pro

bowl, brush it into the small. and we can see right now that we're doing deep have for an a and b and b and certainly which is not thinking of what few only sealed and mr. cop to expect him to do. you know, the max remaining time. so it's about a discussion glove which inside the dispute to talk to them honestly, you know, i think she was very soon seen and don't want us to talk to them for all of us. and while, when they knew well supported z, but that's not what does a good them it didn't you notice that a, at those con pads that we, you know, when people in these journal us and so called analysts stand up, they're more interested in hearing their own voice in their own question, they never listen to the answer. okay. they're just there. that's way they're wired . larry, i what i'm looking at that more carefully than all of this rubbish that is constantly being written that makes less and less sense as beam is pointed out. as all 3 of

you pointed out, is it a political collapse within care of? i mean it's, it's so interesting when you see the economist been time magazine or, you know, other european above. okay. they're kind of like picking winners. have you noticed that lose me wrong? when we get to the landscape, i mean, this is kind of inside baseball stuff could be a lot of smoke, but it's kind of interesting larry as well. there's a little bit of psychological projection going on with the west in terms of protecting the collapse of putting because what we're seeing in the united states politically is a great division. and a lack of consensus that the, the one candidate that seems to have the most support, donald trump, is the ones. this is most of the bill of 5 by the establishment. yep. and that the thing i, you know, i hope that the russian listeners and the russian people understand one thing about

what's going on in the united states stripe down. there is no body in any position of authority or influence that can stand up and talk about. we need to re establish normal relations with russia. we need to recognize a lot of them are approved and is a genuine leader and somebody we're going to have to deal with any, any politicians that attempts that is immediately tard as some create you know, pop in to put some uh, sell out to the communists. i mean, there's still, there's still so many americans who can said, can you believe that russia today is the soviet union of yesterday. yep, there absolutely, no. well, you know, you know, larry, if, if you say something like that eventually eventually you'll be called an anti semite and a racist. okay. those are they close the default positions, okay. and no matter what you say, and the establishment disagrees with you, you're either an anti semite or a racist. okay? and of course why donald trump so much he must be both even though is

a daughter converted to day is but you know, those are details here. you know, nicholas, one of the things that, you know, really bother me like from a responsible state craft and all of that. and you know, they were very well funded places, you know, when you to still it all down, they all and they said it in the 1st week when after the complex started, but they, they won't use the term exactly. but what they want is minutes. 3, we need minutes, 3, that's what they think they, they just do it always down to that. well that is well if minutes one and 2 didn't work, why would minutes? 3 work. nicholas. yeah, it's we we, we surely have done past that. i mean, the basis of minutes to which did bring a relative piece uh, and an end to the worst fighting of 20142015 with the at least 14000 people killed. but yes, ukraine completely failed to fulfill the political aspects of that agreement. and

in other words, to grant or economy to little hands and done yeah it's and so now yes, you little hands getting done yet. aah! are gone. they are an independent to a part of russia. so, um, so yes, i don't think i don't think that is, are advisable. but again, going back to march 2020 to ukraine and russia were able to sit around to table in turkey and, and reach an agreement that they both could live with. and this is obviously what needs to happen again, but the needs to be a realism on all sides. and as long as the west is, is effectively a forming the strategy for ukraine. and ukraine is acting as

a puppet of nato and the united states. and then they, he, they are still not going to be allowed to negotiate a viable, stable agreement. and so the shift that needs to happen is the shift in the united states. and, you know, kind of, as larry is suggesting that the bite and administrative ssion under the grid of, of the, of the neil collins who had let the united states into a dead end all over the world. since the 19 ninety's, the needs to be a returned to 2 serious diplomatic relations with every kind of what pricing looting, china and russia so that we can actually solve the real problems that we're all facing in this world. yeah, but yeah, i agree of a 100 percent nicholas, but that would compromise a gemini,

that would compromise the supremacy of nato. they're not going to lead either one go diem. a supremacy nato's a nato's rich around the world now adds out of area ambitions. this is what happens. what has to happen is a catastrophe when and i don't say about lively because a catastrophe means a lot of people die demon. well, that's true. and i completely agree with nicholas i. i feel what he does describe, but i spoke with the wrong, ready to go. i knew would be the i d o d o the more than the west needs to change because this is a ready to go. i go with you which rejects compromise, which rejects any kind of diplomacy actually. well, i recently a drum, a magazine called the drum and forwarded me to start the variable that on the diploma attempt. so that, that was it, or what

a diploma to be because what she is doing and what by that is, do you know that quoted respectively does a lot of accounting data solve as the doing before they need both sheets? sometimes you meet the often, any goal change, they reach the, you know, the test, the old rules to diplomacy, even the common decency you know that you don't insult your opponent, that you don't teach your opponent, you don't collect to see more her. this is the reason why the problem is always with dies and, and the dolls use, you know, they, they almost never wear uniforms because the aim is to make a distinction between the process as a function. we're not talking during the different microscopes. people are not talking about i d o n g. they're not teaching each other. the result of the program . yeah. because the west is not. i mean, let me, let me finish off with larry here. it's kind of like the, the,

the state department coming out. we're not going to judge in israel fits it. we're not going to be the judge jury and executioner of israel's breaking international law is some us oh, of course they are. okay. that's exactly what demons getting at. that's it. exactly . what do you mean? because they this inability to think differently. last 30 seconds. go ahead. larry . the art of diplomacy see is telling a mother that her child is ugly and see things show at the end. so being able to have that kind of scale, but what the united states has turned into our, our approach is either sanctions or war. we can't do both. well, that's something they have to wake up to. and the guy said, i didn't want to say it lightly, but this the way, the, the, the way the train is leaving going on course the catastrophe is in pending. unfortunately for all of a gentleman, that's all the time we have. i want to thank my guest in tampa, miami, and here in moscow. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here

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