[000:00:00;00] the be, is ro, her mouth presented it the 2nd day, kind of send you the westbank celebrate the release of the 29 detainees from the sprayed custody. we had from one who was suffering in prison. the saddest theme solved with us and humiliated us battelle pride this time and no dignity is raised . for god's sake, our heads will remain high civil pena. please come off pretty post 20 pages with more expected to return to its route. in the coming days with flight king of the pool, it's some kind of thing is try to return to that home in the north. oh, need to come on,

that is where you define with dest reported one survivor speak to about being, as we will walk into either the times, directly attacked people thinking over the road and run them in the open flyers for the actual bible and 6 others. but also injured at all, so as west and pressure on ukraine to negotiate to an end, to the context of growth. a top put kias official says the piece still could be in a cheap last yet if only thing you pay for something happens. and that's all the till now, every out, this is all the international, the see what's happening around the world this today i'm starting to solve this outweigh, as well on how my us have now both exchange detainees as part of the conditions of the full day truths that came in to a fax on friday, and lets see how palestinians indeed westbank greeted those who were released from

his way to custody. the, the huge numbers gathered with people offering a celebratory welcome home to the recently read the full met. detainees was seen being carried through the rejoicing crowds, many of whom were waving palestinian and her mouth fox. the task group of such non people, women and children, was handed over to protest and 13th on friday evening. according to the equipment is rel, will free $150.00 inmates in total. some of those who is set free, expressed hope that even move palestinians could be released if it were not for the people of god, so we would not have sinned freedom. we were suffering in prison the saddest themselves with us and humiliated us. the total pride is tight and no dignity is raised. thanks to the resistance, god's willing. for god's sake, our heads will remain high. like god,

this is an indescribable feeling and god willing all the prisoners will be released . an indescribable joy and god willing, really for will, may god have mercy on the mazda of the west bank and the monitors of garza, the land we have been free, thanks to god and thanks to the resistance, may god relieve everyone and god willing all the female prisoners would be in the next wave, and god willing, no one do remain in the presence which will become empty. what was the? well, this is the scene of the happy reunion of the palestinian women with relatives plundering hubbards from his way. the custody ramadan based at john, that's my habits. and she has more on the story. yes. so the doesn't hundreds of football. the single scouts of the, the, as i suppose, those bank to will come back if any of the seen in women and children,

the prisoners as to your phone call for me to cut a deal with or, or from a law. and they waited for 5 hours until the bus sale, so that'd be close that this is the price for them from also due to the meeting this month, 2 of them is and they were working on the record with god on. sometimes the idea if i faxed them by c a guess what i thought of what it sounds like permission and they went through the size of them, but they were very heavy. and the, especially with the boss i liked the warehouse are very heavy to meet you there. the beloved sons of the adults and the they talk about sex b. s the same as soon as he is that those women, they've reason i was aware of isolated since 7 october, right? until yes of the and they even didn't know about the war about to they going to be a free and some the deluxe kim. i book the us boom to live and they kind of believe that is happening. so they talk about to their, their top experience on the, in human, i'm difficult. it is an embarrassment to show the size is like the jazz, which means that this is

a good that you have much for how much that plays disability. 3 for should the. 3 be able to, where do i think there is, how much flags shouted for the slow guns for or is it doing class matter? how much is that a big is onto the mentors what, how much sleep on the base them for this month? and so they also as the, as the model, they are waiting for the seals, $3100.00. they live in the women chosen a. but isn't us actually why in those spanking of that i celebrate that is jealous of them. they would have been to submit to because that is highly national security . minnesota is the model been to give you a brand new condo celebration for the free. the women and children are provided students and these jobs. and then we have something offer as part of mass condo, 5 to it's all 24 people who has been taken hostage on october 7th, 11 at the a for nationals, 10 from thailand, one from the philippines. and they were listed by helicopter to a hospital. but they, what room recreated my locals?

the is radius celebrated as the freed hostages with taken some medical examinations. many of them, well women and children, according to the idea of how mouse is still holding $215.00 hostages audio on friday. the minutes in group release, this video, well to be abducted, being transferred to the red cross ahead of the swap. let's head to some reaction from locals and as well. again, for some of a bundle, we came to support the children and those who arrived. we're very moved, as you can see, i'm here with my family. we hope that everyone will return home safely, but the people of israel live and that everyone will be in good health and that all the hostages will return home soon. miss fuzzy, i am happy then i have my family back, so i'm allowed to feel joy. it's ok to share the tear. that's a human thing with them, but i am not celebrating. i will not celebrate until the last of the hostages

returns your aspect to local john this nick condo, and in tennessee. and he described the atmosphere and as well when not 1st round of hostages. find me right back in the assemblies of the hostages dots were released the excited unhappy, but they want their privacy because a, it keeps children and it's really hard to explain to them what happened, why they were, they could see bt of the terrorist for almost 2 months and why their parents, relatives, that brands are killed or steal, escape steve, it teeth so it takes time to understand and comprehend this new reality and also the elderly people, many of them needed their medication and special ed medical treatment. so because of that, that the a, off the families not that have to speak to them and not to approach to them and give them the time before they will go out,

speak out. and that builder horrible stories about that being asked for almost 2 months at the gaza strip. and these rarely probably that we're very excited. many people came at to the place where those, the hostages released the flags of p 0. and they think it sounds and they were really happy and they're helping that, that all of the hostages that we'll be back home, all of the 200, then 13 at both of them still have guys a strip and today another 13 hostages also expected to return back home 30 from then a to children. so people in israel expecting goals, so for them. and while i'm at this short time say slide between the war and sides, many displays protestants have been trying to return to the homes. but the idea has prevented them from doing so. just a warning, the following images,

you might find the stopping. so this video circulating online logically shows, palestinians killed by is where a full says on that johnny fox news of the idea plus the public key. but it's to bits low cost from entering that area because it is too dangerous on these uh, images of a protest in your mind being treated following, not elected attack. that's here. how he described what happened. the total is 9 30 am i had reached nodes. are you located about the last few moments yourself list of guys sitting as we were walking is what it sounds directly attacked people . they came over the road and run over the open flyer. got showed viable and 6 others, but it also injured both, some managed escape. i wanted to go back to get to the city to bring some flowers and some of our belongings. there's some clothes for my wife. the british fold costs in preparation will. bbc has come on the far from its jewess,

still off us off the employees were bought from attending an upcoming march against anti semitism. well, that's cross now and bring in oscar spun that steve sweeney. steve. uh, great to have you. um, disney plus through what this is. let's clean it, shall bbc living up to its uh, um, i missed you bank soleski mutual. well, this isn't news bbc report as have been bought from attending to march. is that take place over this weekend? the pro palestinian mounts, demonic se is fine, which takes place on saturday. i'm this much against anti semitism which takes place on sunday. now is this a bond is cause the complaint some jewish stuff, name is the b, b, c. now the producers have cited the broad costs of impartiality guidelines as the reason for the bond on attendance. but the bbc has, of course, come on the fire, including from his own employees. for it said ledge pro israel bias it is coverage

of the is all palestine come fix the bbc has failed to accurately tell the story. so emission and the lack of critical engagement with as well as claims it has their full fail to help the public to engage with and understand the human rights abuses and folding and gather thousands of palestinians have been killed since october 7th . when will the number be high enough for? i'll edit total stats to change. we are asking the bbc to better reflect and defer to the evidence based findings of official and unbiased humanitarian organizations . you know, the babys agents have said that the corporation has use terms like mastercard, and it's also tell you about the use of being was of specifically for how much. and of course, this frames how mazda is the only aggressor in the conflict. now, even during the a prison exchange, that language used by the bbc again, has come on the fire, for example,

using the term teenage miles instead of palestinian children. very interesting knowing what's on weapons of course, now, 7 weeks since a saw the cause of all. so obviously the bbc is have plenty of time to show its, uh, editorial colors, so to speak. is this the 1st time that pro is rel, bias concerns have been raised? well, no, it's fall from the 1st time back in 2018. for example, the bbc was pressure them back down on to that pressure from the is right, the phone, him and history. and it changed a headline, which initially bed is ready as far as kill women and baby on it. changed it during the fall. baldwin of gauze, the 2 goals as far as killing women and child off the rockets strike as well. so it was really binding to pressure from the is why the government now back again in 2009 doing another reason why the bombardment of gauze, the cooperation again refused to give out. the dean, titles of the goals were appeal form. this was

a group of charities that were coming together, raising funds for the victims and the people that was suffering and needed humans having iden calls on it said it would reach its editorial guidelines to give out those details. so the form of labor and pain, tony been famously read them out, live on that much to the anger of the baby say. it is almost like recently resisted cause from the government to review that it was editorial guidelines. often it was accused of refusing to refer to how much as a terrorist organization, instead it described the palestinian group as militants. and i'm just looking about because that's specifically about as well. if we step back and have a general knock, the people surprise itself when its impartiality, it's something it talks about the entire time because of that live up to the reputation. well, of course this is the bbc prides itself on its impartiality. but in reality, this is something of a mess. now the bbc was established by

a boy will chose to and it's paid for extensively onto public funds. it raises money through a license fee, but of course it doesn't really matter who funds it. what matters is, who controls that money, and in this case, it's the government accepts the license fee. so the sum of the public pay in order to watch the bbc and it uses that to exec political pressure on the cooperation. it's a points to chat on a points for non executive directors now is current director general tim davy was a former totally party candidate in local elections. the format chat, richard shaw. so united, $400000.00 pounds to the totally policy. he famously loans, forrest johnson, the former prime minister, 800000 pounds. now this of course, led to his adventure at dismissal. but it was that with everything that he was becoming the prime minister of issue. so not both while they both worked at the goldman sachs banking. so there are all this,

these links between the bbc and the government. now the government has been very clear of its position on the israel palestine conflict. it projected the is riley 5 on the houses of parliament. wall is why was bombarding garza and of course opposes these codes for c sign. now the former home secretary sort of brought them in who was very recently sent. now she branded these pro palestinian mom. she's the mauch is coding for us. these 5, she famously branded them height, marches, and cold for them to be found. another bbc has of course, long been accused of simply being an extension of, of the states and supporting the government foreign policy, whether it's on as well, whether it's on ukraine or elsewhere. well, definitely a very cozy little relationship with uh, buy will accounts and destiny. a reflection pushed for a policy also that was steve sweeney in studio. many thanks for joining us on. let's listen. i'll quinton to the conflict in ukraine because

a top official interior says that a peace deal with russia could have been achieved last year. but the nature of the u. k. forest johnson into food and insisted that the ukrainians continue to fight. let me pull it up because it's a my opinion, the russians really believed until the very end that they could have pressed us. so we would accept neutrality and this was the main thing for them. tell them if they were ready to end the war. if we accepted neutrality like finland once did, and then we make a commitment to not join nato vehicle when we return for mr. kimball morris johnson came to kiff and said that we would not sign anything with them at all. and let's just continue fighting. this is the 1st time that a senior you creating an official, a very close associate of presidency landscape, and someone who was on the negotiation team from you. craig, coming out and saying that these room is well indeed true, that

a peace agreement was almost the place. the pressure demanded chiefly neutrality that you paid, wouldn't join nato. and that is why that was this. this pushed towards keep the pressure ukrainian, you credit into authorities. and then there he confirmed something that many others have said since the bar, as johnson, the prime minister of great britain himself came to key. if, as he said, don't do it, don't sign a peace agreement with the russians continue with the boy. and that was the turning point. allegedly off to which presents the landscape, came out and said to google until they reach ukraine's buddhist templates 1991. since then, there has been a tremendous loss of life. hundreds of thousands of ukrainian soldiers killed, injured, huge slots of the country, devastated. and now they're talking about negotiations again again,

the 1st time that it's seen that ukranian official has come out and shed those details. and this come comes at the time when it many publications around the world and from officials from senior officials in europe in america, by hearing the blood, peace negotiations, the words peace negotiations more and more something the seemingly was anathema at the start of 2023, when they were these, these hopes that you created could achieve victory through military means at this point, it is important to mention that at this time, any quotes for peace negotiations in ukraine punishable by low police negotiations with russia are banned by law, a decrease signed by the landscape zalinski himself. nevertheless, this is a critical admission perhaps a ton important because many ukrainians who have lost relatives who have lost loved

ones who have been forced to play the hundreds of thousands of men who are abroad in europe in russia. one of the. busy old trying to trying to dodge the draft a new credit and the mobilize ations. they've lost the question. what if it was that simple? was it was it? was it was it continue with the war condemning hundreds of thousands to death when? oh, that's and ask you how to do was sign a piece agreement guarantee neutrality. well, joining me now veteran, what john list, i'm political on less life than mine. yeah, thank you so much for joining us. it's always huge on a to have you on. i'm the 1st thing i want to ask you, i mean the narrative has always been that it was president pearson was on reasonable. russia was never willing to compromise. it wouldn't sit down and negotiate. so do you think it's a significant but suddenly we're hearing from inside kids that actually that's not

really how it was it who a thank you for having me was actually we can see a message behind it and much more than b b i because when in the end, the crane inefficient comes out at this particular moment when the west is giving up on p. f at home ukraine. but understanding that the war against russia is not the tv needs goes on the concrete in the west suite, trying to really hit twice a and this month and the economy divided in pieces. and we end up getting our own economy. because of that, we see how the ukrainians today understand that the west is giving up on them and is understanding that only the dido was the rock. uh, is this a 3? what the ukrainians almost 10 e s h from 2014. when president,

victoria newport beach was uh ad, replaced and included uh, the americans and europeans move in to prove value of grain to fight russia. it is not to ukrainian fight, it has never been a war between ukraine and workshops. it is a war between the us as the rest of the allies with russia using the great news and funding to the last few gradient. and because of that ukraine believe that joining the us, they can when they haven't done anything from history and they know beyond what we've seen of the us, the northland from the history, the bike and the guns, that the occupation of the country, the occupational therapy, occupational of syria and baltimore, they have it down from history. and other countries did not done by observing the us that relying on us on the us is relying on the law the best

because the us will never to support any country because it doesn't have friends. it has business relationship and interest. so hey, we now the premium and a feature that will spots a big thing to dialogue and to reach an agreement as president booth and said in during his meeting was $49.00 out of $54.00 african leaders in the meeting in some business for 8 days a confirmation that present putting was telling us the truth. it is a confirmation that russia wanted to end this fall into the confirmation. the rest are subjective. what not to have nasal on these voters, and then have only the guarantee without the necessity to go to war. but that we already know that from the c i, a former director who said that the russia gathered due to april

2021. not likely 20 to 2021. and we'll send the information, come and let us talk about a security arrangement where we avoid a war and we can have a deal with ukraine way ukraine would not be part of nature. and because this is what the russian were asking, the americans couldn't believe that this is a golden opportunity to declare war on russia using the ukrainians and watching the how do you agree is exterminated as well, like they say, if you tell a lie enough, that becomes the truth, so i suppose what was more important was that people believe what the west was saying rather than the actual facts on the ground. what i want to ask you though, is that obviously the, the people that have stopped at the most and it's the ukranian who have lost the lights. we are now hearing different stickers, but around 300000 ukrainian soldiers. and a huge number of those could still well be alive if the president had signed that

piece deal. and if the forest johnson from far away hadn't traveled and decided the other boys needed to, to fight for his political survival clarity. do you think that this key of official coming out now and admitting to this is conditioning, the ukrainian people to the fact that we will have to negotiate and we're probably not going to get as good terms and conditions as we might have gotten lost. yeah, it is the i really agree with that, and i think the premiums have been sending signatures to the americans and europeans that if you do not continue supplying that's with money and weapons or at least as president and ask you said you don't allow us to borrow the money, there's no money to all, no more weapons, normal ammunition. they've used everything. and as far as i know, by talking to the european officials in brussels,

they were promised by the americans that the war would know no more than 3 to 4 months. and then we own here in new york. busy and we wouldn't be back with the back end, the sporting war that is russia. what's that didn't happen? this is why the green is all sending these messages today, getting us and getting the credit in the recruiting population that they perhaps we need to come to place again the also made by russia. but that means that the americans and europeans all no longer supporting our role award that we cannot print. however, we need to keep in mind that for ukraine, they are very little chances today because we're going to reconstruct the ring. if the are pins in the americans don't have been enough money to continue the war. who is going to invest the $300.00 to $500000000000.00 to reconstruct the country. the

great news have destroyed themselves. they've destroyed that country. and now that would be controlled and the pin and what they would need is a few grain i'm going to do about them wouldn't be unsatisfactory for the population. because at the end of the war, people would it be a account of, of the decision makers would be accountable for what they have done and for the decisions they have made it's, it's very interesting. it took almost about this tightening, this realization of the normal weapons as normal money does a lot of political appetite for it, especially as we go into those presidential elections in the us. we know that elections dictate most of american foreign policy. i want to ask you to west and media is also with beginning to see a different type of story like to tool can, you know the summit trees of filling up corruption is really bad. i wonder what do you think if and when we start moving towards negotiations,

all we're going to see more of this on rob playing of the missed that the media for the last 20 or months has been we think about ukrainian democracy about the landscape, a hero is not going to crumble as like you say they throw ukraine into the quote, trash can of what nobody likes to be on the sinking ship, including the mainstream media in the west. we all day from about that when we get we have use and the use of with us and for a country and is no longer subbing the top it says we are extremely good and saw in dropping this country, all the pets and, and then switching to something completely different. the problem today is the joe biden's legacy. the united states president is facing the election next year and become pain has already stopped by being

a failure in that he's policy toward ukraine and toward palestine and the peace div between these really and the purpose. damian's is too much for the american disorder. and i'm talking here about the democratic where policies that is represented by president biden. so these are big hit to the americans. and this is going to be very difficult for joe biden to run the campaign . is getting the was that he had supported the destruction of gods that yeah, supported the destruction of you grace. and he came out and get handed where he's goes, where not the cheap. so yes, perhaps the american mainstream media in new york be in may. so need to need to stop repairing the ground. this is why they picking up the stories and putting them on the front page and allowing this to come out for them to prepare the ground and saying, what are we all switching and then show they stopped when they accuse ukraine,

not the u. s. o being responsive of blowing up the street to that germany in all the countries responsible for the security of those 3 to just close the investigation longer go instead of the now we have old is information that we need to put together as a book a and they full one message, the wall against russia has phase. and now it's time to think about how we can pull back in how we can try to save the image. but don't believe that this is something that it is often. because remember when the u. k. a full and the prime minister, tony blair, responsible for bots impatient to the getting a one you want to use. 1000000 new rocky came up with the television. they said we made a mistake. i'm sorry. oh, so 1000000 iraq you were washed out with just one simple what and i'm show at the

end of the day that will tell ukraine. well, we didn't go to wall on your behalf. within advise you to go through what we advise you not to accept, but at the end of the day the decision is yours. so the whole blame win for you praying. oh, are going to pay the price not be part of name to not be follow the you not receiving enough money to reconstruct the country. and then eventually the only thing that remains is the hand coming from russia. if russia is still willing to dude with you, great. well, like henry kissinger, famous, and said to be, america's enemy is dangerous, but to be america's ally can be faithful atrocity. whichever way you look at a veteran which on this i'm political on a slice of money. i thank you so much for joining us this saturday. thank you. on another from the top floor just like a large of, of folks about the wall street journal has published an ex spots assessment of