of the time, rick sanchez, i've been doing news now for 30 years and 2 languages all over the world. and right here in the united states interviewed for different us. presidents work that at least 4 or 5 different us major television networks. and i believe after. busy of that there should be honest, direct, and impactful, and just by golly, is direct impact the all right, so here we go. the u. s. political season has begun the horse races on and here are the entrance. this is the 1st debate for those buying to become the next republican presidential candidate of the united states. and what did most of these tough guys spend their time doing?

taking on china, of course, because according to them, say, what, according to them, once we separate ourselves from china and end our relationship with said country, all our problems will simply fade away. here's a taste, subsidizing china, china, china, china, china. but here's the memo that every one of these political actors apparently failed to read. there is no separating us from china because our economies are debt our consumption base. there were workforce, our appetite for the technology that we need. all of these things are inexorably tied. in fact, if any one of these presidential aspirants that you are just seeing on the screen, i bothered to read the papers around the same time that they were doing this debate . just open up the newspaper. they want to see this check out this headlines,

but at this tesla relies on china for 40 percent of its batteries supplies. so let's just use this article as, as, as an example of the present us and china inter dependence. where 1st we learned that 40 percent of the companies, the manufacturer, battery storage capabilities for tesla. our chinese. wow. cool, no, right. wait, there's more 40 percent of the testers. aluminum smelters are also, chinese companies. 40 percent weight. there's more 33 percent of all of the test plus in organic chemical partners, chinese companies, and measures tesla. we could probably go right down the list of all the us corporations. we could name, many of whom are donors of the same men and women now running for president. and we would find out that the vast majority of those companies have financial ties

in one way or another to china. now, does that mean that these politicians are taking money from people who are making money from china while they are also attacking china? mm. yeah, that's exactly what i mean. and by the way, with that, make them hypocrites. you judge for yourself. so look. politics is that the fact is that as much as china needs the us, especially because we buy everything they make, the u. s. needs china just as much as and here here's how that has actually come to be when our hands met, one year ended and another began. a few hours later, the president met with german mouse a gun. the 79 year old leader wasn't afraid of health, but the lively, our long meeting included philosophy, history,

and banter. the roots of the us and chinese intern dependents can be traced back to president richard nixon's, landmark visit the beijing in 1972. who can forget that was around back then. it was a historic overture that in the fall relations between the 2 cold war adversaries. and again, it did kind of in the cold war between these 2. until now, have you seen what's being said lately more on that later? so the nixon in china story set the stage for diplomatic ties, but see what it really did was lay the groundwork for an expanded economic relationship between these 2 countries that set that went something, something like this very from now on. chinese workers will make the stuff that we americans consume simple and here's how it happened. in the 19 seventy's under

dasia in pain, china is reform and opening up a policies converted the country from a closed, centrally planned economy right to one that is now market oriented. so as china offered a mass of labor pool and lower production costs, american businesses said yeah, and they began shifting all of their manage all of their manufacturing over there to uh, to china. can you say out sourcing? that's how it began. and really, it's never stopped. and yeah, it makes american workers angry, but it is what it is. us companies all got a competitive edge through cheaper production, while china benefited from for an investment, technological advances and job creation for their people. in fact, china benefit is so much that it ended up loaning us money. i mean, amassing a significant amount of the us debt. in other words, try as we may or might to this day,

we can't quit china just like a line in the movie. we can't quit them because among other things we owe to lunch money. so there's some risk symbiotic, economic relationship cemented by intertwined supply chains. profound bilateral trade dynamics, political. busy and economic ramifications extending far beyond the respective borders of both countries is now one that can not easily be taken apart. as many would try to suggest at least not without a lot of pain on both sides and especially in the american consumer and the tax payer. who benefits from this? see, that is the reality that you won't hear about off and on the news. and that you seldom here from this class. those half the rush you're trying to alliance is the single greatest threat we face.

joining us out of talk about this is none other than those who rob goup, the he's a senior asia pacific specialist based in washington dc and to say that he knows china would be an understatement. so realty, how are we going to be an issue? there is no one i thought of more recently than you. i was watching the g o. p debates and i was watching all of these guy, just angry and explaining why the biggest problem in the united states and the world is china and what they're going to do to deal with that. of course they gave no concrete examples and no clarity of what they were going to do. but i don't know . did you get a chance to see that it was? it was like a bunch of a i didn't, i didn't get it. i didn't give a chance to see it and i was frankly not surprised of the all kind of beating up, but reading each of the up and then trying to be the channel on top of that. and i mean, this was just a prelude. we're going to see a lot more of this uh, in the next few months. why, why, why, what, what, what is with the if, if somehow,

if i bashed china loud enough, more people will vote for me? are america not so i think with a going at all to is trying to show that they have form policy, create that a lot of them. some of them do have foreign policy. great. others don't. and it's always good to have an enemy, someone you can beat up on someone who use the although she is the other in fremont that way. so you have a target and it's always, once you have a target, it's fun talking practice. it's all based on sure. yeah, i'm glad you said that because it was a hailey nikki haley who turns in the middle of. busy debate to mimic ramos swanny and says you have no foreign policy experience as if you had no right to be here. on this stage after a key had said that we're actually making a mistake in our policies with both russia and china. because what we're doing, his words was bringing them together. and that's when she attacked them and says,

your problem is you have no foreign policy experience. maybe we need more people with less spark plugs. or actually, i didn't say, see what i taught at that point of time. let me give you. let me like to point out to plus nikki haley is saying the exact things that list trusts in the united kingdom says and list trust was the shortest united kingdom prime minister. and i think 300 years. i mean, she'd, she needs to figured, i felt like she's a 100 per day as possible. i the, and you all of you want, she thinks about in terms of international relations. it's almost sorry. i mean, unfortunately she was born 30 is too what? anyways, so that's one thing about what, what she, what she needs to understand now too. but you know, it's, i just, i, by the way, what you're saying with that is she thinks like a cold war hawk she thinks like, we're still in the 19 fifties and the shipping from on those terms. and then she, you know, the rigging came in the 1980s of them all inflict ideas on what reagan did. and so

everybody wants to be your rigging. and everybody wants to be a catcher on the consumer side, on the republican side. and let that did was mind the, his boss and i mean donald trump's coming itself is a so you can show off that that did, has austin terms of where the republicans used to be on certain policies. and so they need to, to, i mean, make up and move on. but also, you know, the 2nd point i'll make is, you know, by didn't actually play the sub. but i think the republicans would be completely on board in terms of he has a stomach and camp david, break up the koreans and the japanese together. and look at the tanks, we are and we are leaking out alliances, etc, etc. and you don't let us news coming up is uh, let's get north korea into our exercises. the russians are saying to the chinese, so you're going to be russian, upgrade china, south korea, japan, united states, how much fun is it going to be using this? the end to chamber, to one more one into your computer. and that's what good to have folks who don't have that much room see, explain so. so you think it's funny,

what you just said about north korea using north korea sen suddenly going to be and, and the reason i'm asking what this question is, this recently i've watched emerging between india saudi arabia, iran of some other south pacific countries. russia parts of the middle east even is real, is reaching out to these groups and creating a sort of a, a bastion of, of thought process. if not unity, at least. so it would not surprise me tomorrow in this bizarre, where we're living and to me or to most americans in north korea jump into the freight. and so, you know, what was the price they would want to do that and others would not on well come back. because if the south koreans up thinking of assisting the united states in a, any time on straight contingency, maybe they might be kept a little busy on their bordeaux, on this side by the north koreans and the russians. i mean,

that's what the japanese leads to think, what they've had this kind of defense foster, which was moving away from the defense of northern japan, from what was the soviets and the rushing to moving towards the southern japan and just watch when i mean, when the russians start putting a little pressure out there on the northern thought, suddenly you think maybe it wasn't such a good idea to get into a lot, then try to do what defense, false you. because we need to resolve on matters with the russians, which i am and then can we resolve of both and, and, and, and, and rather than and so say that i get say that again, that we have to resolve our issues with the rushes because they have the usually resolvable and, and, and you've and you, you became passionate when you start them and what is the result of those? because, you know, the previous ones, the previous i was a long, long study problem. this will all be. he was in long standing the negotiations with a, with mr. fulton and they did was to make progress in those negotiations and what they're trying to essentially will call disease. all of them are trying to work

a retreat for one side of the day seats all the other sites because frankly, japan's a position with regard to word calls of northern territories. and the curos is actually a very, very weak one, legally very weak one legally. so the russian side note of sovereignty essentially belongs to them, but they don't have the title in terms of the signature on the title document. and so they're willing to make compromises and concessions to walk around, to find a solution to that. and think about it for, for, for under that japan, which feels threatened by china. would you not want to have a little separation between china and russia in that case? but you know, they're all, let's get linked up and locked in with the us and try to whether the us wants to fight will gwen fight on i'm, i'm the bringing greater problems upon themselves. and that's the problem. thanks so much to rob, stay right there. and we've got more questions for you. okay. by the way, i'd like to continue this conversation with you. what do you say we do some

conversing on twitter. my handle is rick sanchez. tv. that's rick sanchez, tv. i'll be looking for you there. when we come back, what are the us leaders actually say publicly about china? the china would never say about us. how share some examples with you. when we come back? the problem was that the noun and whoop was what i mean. the point is lower ability. when, when is the check, i can see what we i drove you about the one, i'll go to one of the what the issue

is utah. those that you don't want me to show you how many is already on the policy now in syria? enormous. it won't be seen by easy. it's just what is it going to get? no, no, and um, of course it only opens. he got a gun that will allow us to send anyone at all. no, that's fine. the, the

society of to your credit accounts offensively, you know, it was a fire that there was a series of oceans on the, on the west side and ukrainian side issues about their own strength illusions about strength of the russian opponents. basically the, you know, don't care to rush or, and you crying was a door that just had to be kicked in and the whole structure would come come sometime in the solutions. have been shocked with the hey, what about gum, rick sanchez? although the chinese government always takes a diplomatic path. it's part of their culture and their nature when it comes to the united states or talking about the united states. american leaders have taken almost pleasure in attacking china. i'll give you some examples. president barton recently accused the president of china for the j. he said, he said he's

a dictator. strong words, not exactly diplomatic, right. president trump said chinese thieves west stolen from the united states. and then there's hillary clinton, who said that china is a doomed country. the doomed. interesting word, joyce insinuating, i guess it doesn't have much time left. me and we're back now with that. so i've got, uh uh he is a senior asia pacific specialist and we're talking all things china. i don't know if you had a chance to see this report. so rob, i, i wish the guys had seen this, who were in that g o. p debate because it came out just before they came on. and if they've read this report, maybe they would've re, saw their points about how we need to, i don't know bomb china guild china and our relations with china, china, china, china, here it is. tesla is reporting 40 percent of its batteries,

40 percent of its aluminum manufacturing, 40 percent of 33 percent of all the chemicals they used to make their cars come from companies based in china. so the tesla, which is the car that all americans seem to want to drive these days and will be the car of the future. most of it is being made by companies in china. so that's exactly the china inside has the most competitive e v market electric vehicle market in the world. and if a tesla gets this, that's if you want to be competitive in china, a competitor globally, you need to have a china strategy and compete and win and china. because if you win and china, you will win anywhere else and goes to the problem that comes to some of those inflation reduction that subsidies, which of which was dividing this, putting off how to use for ease of cost trying to, to invigorate the n e industrial to a battery sector and cetera. and for a fair enough, i mean, you want to be a competitor in this place in the space. but before you are going to block chinese

competition, all which is the built most efficient come competitor out. you are going to create a marketplace which is not cutting edge. and if you're going to create a marketplace which is not cutting edge, you are not going to be able to compete in international markets. so you may not have choice is production chinese cars in this market and you never know, even with all those the, the subsidies on the preferences given chinese cause might still be be competitive as this selling a lot. and you're probably gone talking in terms of ease, but anyway, the point being that if you want to be work class, so you want to be work competitive, you need to compete with the best. and in doing, in the inflation reduction that ensures which in not competing with the best, which will not make you the best and will not make you competitive at the end of the day. they're trying to throw manufacturing employment in michigan and other places, georgia, etc. but they're not trying to create and manufacturing competitiveness, which is look what you should be aiming at along to them,

which is where china is going. and red tesla is going in terms of the sector. so it all sounds nice of this so much happening right in the space in the us. but mark my words, this, they will not be bored competitive. if we go with the argument that like china makes our stuff and they did it better than we could at cheaper. so that's why americans in many cases lost some of their jobs because us manufacturers decided we're just going to let the chinese make our stuff. walmart, case study, right? and that's, that's really still going on, right? that really hasn't changed. jobs have not really come back to the jobs have not come back to america. what. what, what has happened is america has maintained, it's become, is the hub of r n d, and it has just been kicked up and off of the value chain. and, and so, i mean, it is super innovative. it can be competitive, but much of the manufacturing happens. those are thinking terms, actually the idea and such a thinking tells us is something, conductors the us. so i mean, dominant,

do i mean the most muscular force in electronic design automation, in terms of how you do something kind of to design in terms of innovation, new techniques, in terms of sending 100 of manufacturing tools. but what is kind of deemed to be more blue color, it's not really blue color blue color because it's such stuff as security, production is used elsewhere. and right. i mean it's times of it happening and so right, so yeah, and, and, and so, and, and so i want, i know there is a point to bring some of that back because you need to be sick fabrication capacity in this country. you can be 0, but so there is a certain logic to get even some production back to. but the point is you have to compete by trying to buy, buy, buy, be going up the value chain and trying to be much as competitive. and that's based on the huge, enormous profits we do in us get a apple, what the sort of the value added in terms of as i phone comes from and much of it comes from non issue sources because less but much of the value is created. and

that is where you have a bell. let me let, let me, let me check. let me push back as an american on this. okay, and i'm going to now agree with some of these guys who are the big blow hards on the g o. p. debate, i get the resentment i. we weren't once it right. we were the big fish, right. the language states of america. and there is an argument to be made. i believe. so rob, you're the expert that the united states came up with this idea of high tech and much of the stuff the china now excels in, originally came from here and we shared it with them. and they took it over and they've kind of kicked our butts with it and in many ways maybe even manipulated their way into getting good at it. and that's why americans, at least are american leaders feel like, you know, what we, we, we, we, we held out i had, we gave you everything we had and you've taken and now you're beating us with it. and we don't like that. yeah. right. but 2 points, so do 1st of all,

where are you going to go? because you'll beating us with that. so, i mean, you kind of go down don't value in terms of your production in terms of y'all, product you can, as i said, you can get a little production at your end. but you can be going back to doing the ball bearings and all because you know, you're going to compete with not the china isn't all, but you're going to compete with much will average middle income countries who can, who can do that. and so that's going to be that's, that's going to be one of those issues. but the 2nd point is, i mean, greater investments need to be made in society. altura much great. the investments in education, etc, etc. you look at, in terms of mathematics scores and all those things, i mean, hong kong, single portion. i imagine the students are all from there. why should it be? ok? i read a report, i read a report the other day where in china, children in 4th and 5th grade are now being taught to program computers using a i that i heard about a i 3 months ago. i mean, not about a i,

but it's, you know, like just to be the 1st time i ever started using, it was like 2 or 3 months ago and i'm a full blown adult and children and i had been program. i literally kind of know the 4 year olds and all that i'm telling you they have the most the exact, it's that the 60, you know, they have also some of the most competitive educational marketplace isn't the most out there. it's, i mean very few sort of competition and it's not usually, i mean at best and they don't complain that there's, this was just too much, you're putting too much pressure on the kids and off. but at this, at the end of the day, they know that there's a box to upward mobility through hardware, trying dedication to a big issue of these things and they beat that. yeah. and they've done that in july that's it's not easy to make all human, but oh, we should put them. and so now they took it from us. you know, that's what the sharing that was that happened was sharing off 2nd po,

intellectual property. but them the top notch, intellectual property is never shed, it's maintained at home on the base. so, but you kind of keep on multiplying and, and, and, and, and, you know, waiting at your end and you share that, that sort of thing to the next generation intellectual property. because you can make tons of money out of that, frankly, a bit. but what these smaller 100 poor countries of bedtime, good data betting to let your technology and the rate of the present, they move forward with that. and i think that's what america needs to stay competitive also and not. and this is the real danger of tube with regard to this protect creeping protectionism that's coming in is that it will not be protectionism with regard to preserving chips and those sort of thing. it will be production isn't going to like a person living very mundane things because production is a, is something we can all kind of support at the end of the day. because if you're a politician and that can be in the longer term of things dangerous and that's what is happening on capital if frankie bush thank you so rob,

you're always good conversations like this, what i really appreciate it. all right, so before we go, i want to remind you of our mission. it's simple really. we want to the silo, the world we've got to stop living in these little boxes truths, don't live in boxes. truth is everywhere or i'm rick sanchez. i'll be looking for you again right here, where i hope to provide some direct impact the the in 1492 this evening, christopher columbus, rates to the bahamas,

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