somebody didn't get any lift in some of the major. oh, sure. yeah, horrors. yeah. you're telling me the mainstream media wouldn't report this. right, but honestly, the right me look, orest johnson. it goes to key if he's got these, told me the whole before it's gonna save the lives of hundreds of thousands, thousands of people. tar. why do you think, why do you think? because for such a long time now we've heard the western political and media landscape saying russia doesn't want to 12 piece russia well negotiate. and yet, if you look at it now, it seems that what so lensky is. advisor was saying right now flies right in the face of that narrative, but russia was actually willing to sit of the peace table, but the u. k. bars johnson, they sco hope to talk. absolutely. or, you know, and as a matter of fact, in june of this last year, a lot of recruitment president clinton had showed the actual document of how russia was withdrawn troops from kids and trying to you know, meet with this a court, this piece of equipment. they made, they ask for 2 things. they want to do trial,

eddie, from ukraine. the same thing, males from finland, right? they want to do tragedy and they wanted not to join nato, and these were the 2 demands. and of course, we all know what happened. everything did not and pulled that way, and course johnson intervene. and of course, johnson was acting on behalf of us as well as the u. k. and this has to do with money. this has to do with profit, the western military industrial machine. you had these weapons manufacturers that have made almost a trillion dollars since the conflict has begun to leave. in fact, there was a recent call with some of these western manufacturers weapons really lectures, lockheed martin and, and so on. talking about the profit since they've made. so it's, it's just been really horrible me looks and they just sent the defense secretary lloyd austin's a key of a few days ago. the former year k, p m cameron was there as well. he's going to be some sort of piece on board, whatever i read, austin was there and i was thinking, you know, what, why did they say and america's biggest defense secretary that why?

because i think they sent him that it tells the landscape, look, here's more money, but you know what? it's over because here's what we keep seeing and tara, and the western media and the political landscape, they keep talking about this stalemate and you crank, oh, it's a stalemate. it's not going anywhere. nobody's one. no, no, it's, it's over. you said you pray and has lost, there's no stalemate anywhere across the board. yeah, the west and thoughts applying the shelves anymore. they haven't got the weapons to send a name or they don't have the money to send anymore. meantime, russia continues to make pro stalemate. there is no stalemate, hello, wisdom press. if you're listening, there was no style made. how is this gonna wrap up? how much longer that we could biden because the presidential election next year? the, of course, the political establishment wants to maintain the image, but ukraine's winning. so they will wind rush, you will lose how we're going to get around this foot just in time for the election . do you think? well, i think the hawks are going to try to keep it going just a little bit longer because that's the military unit. that's where they make their

money. but bear in mind to there's put money laundering issue. right. that's all coming to light in congress. all of the things that were happening with, with you train and the money laundering that has to do with the politicians that are involved. and so they're trying to do duck and cover and people are, are kind of taking each other out. so it's going to be really interesting to see how the movement towards the negotiations towards the scouts, but right now, rushes in a position where they don't have to negotiate. they've been the knots of fine moving steadily as you said. and the tragedy is that a generation of ukrainian men are dead. yeah. and, and, you know, this is blood on the hands of the western leaders fight in the forest, johnson and others that pushed this war through when there could have been peace in turkey. in april, the ukrainian economy is war machine and even government solar is currently relying on money from abroad. the section of ukraine's national security defense council says applying for citizens of the country to allow themselves they and read all

about that's by heading over to a website that's off the adults with us all for this. all money is peach of scots on the back with all the very latest updates from the mid least at the top of the our hopes, the you the, the com, rick sanchez. i've been doing news now for 30 years and 2 languages all over the world. and right here in the united states interviewed for different us. presidents work that at least 4 or 5 different us major television networks. and i believe after. busy of that new should be honest, direct, and impactful, and just by golly, is direct impact the all right, so here we go. the u. s. political season has begun the horse races on and here are

the entrance. this is the 1st debate for those buying to become the next republican presidential candidate of the united states. and what did most of these tough guys spend their time doing? taking on china, of course, because according to them, say, what, according to them, wants me to separate ourselves from china and, and our relationship with said country, all our problems will simply fade away. here's a taste are subsidizing china, china, china, china, china. but here's the memo that every one of these political actors apparently failed to read. there is no separating us from china because our economies are debt our consumption base. there were workforce, our appetite for the technology that we need. all of these things are inexorably

tied. in fact, if any one of these presidential aspirants that you are just seeing on the screen, i bothered to read the papers around the same time that they were doing this debate just opened up the newspaper. they want to see this check out this headlines of tesla relies on china for 40 percent of its batteries supplies. so let's just use this article as, as, as an example of the present us and china, inter dependence where 1st we learned that 40 percent of the companies, the manufacturer, battery storage capabilities for tesla. our chinese. wow. cool. no, right. wait, there's more 40 percent of the tests. most aluminum smelters are also, chinese companies. 40 percent. wait. there's more 33 percent of all of the test plus in organic chemically partners, chinese companies. and that's just tesla. we can probably go right down the list of

all the us corporations. we could name, many of whom are the donors of the same men and women now running for president. and we would find out that the vast majority of those companies have financial ties in one way or another to china. now, does that mean that these politicians are taking money from people who are making money from china while they are also attacking china? me? yeah, that's exactly what i mean. and by the way, with that, make them hippa goods. you judge for yourself. so look, politics aside. the fact is that as much as china needs the us, especially because we buy everything they make, the u. s. needs china just as much as and here here is how that has actually

come to be when our hinge met, one year ended and another began a few hours later the president met with german match. i don't. the 79 year old leader wasn't afraid of health, but the lively, our long meeting included philosophy, history, and banter. the roots of the us and chinese intern dependents can be traced back to president richard nixon's, landmark visit the beijing in 1972. who can forget that was around back then? it was a fish eric overture, that in the fall relations between the 2 cold war adversaries. and again, the dead kind of and the cold war between these 2. until now, have you seen what's being said lately? more on that later. so the nixon in china story set the stage for diplomatic ties, but see what it really did was lay the groundwork for an expanded economic

relationship between these 2 countries that set that went something, something like this very from now on. chinese workers will make the stuff that we americans consume simple and here's how it happened. and the 1970s under dasia, in green, china is reform and opening up a policies converted the country from a closed, centrally planned economy, right, to one that is now market oriented. so as china offered a mass of labor pool and lower production costs, american businesses said yeah, and they began shifting all of their manage all of their manufacturing over there to uh, to china. can you say out sourcing? that's how it began. and really, it's never stopped. and yeah, it makes american workers angry, but it is what it is. us companies all got a competitive edge through cheaper production,

while china benefited from for an investment, technological advances and job creation for their people. in fact, china benefit is so much that it ended up loaning us money. i mean, amassing a significant amount of the us debt. in other words, try as we may or might to this day, we can't quit china just like a line in the movie. we can't quit them because among other things, we'll too much money. so let's say this symbiotic economic relationship cemented by intertwined supply chains, profound bilateral trade dynamics. political. busy and economic ramifications extending far beyond the respective borders of both countries is now one that can not easily be taken apart. as many would try to suggest at least not without a lot of pain on both sides and especially in the american consumer and the tax

payer. who benefits from this? i say that is the reality that you won't hear about off and on the news. and that you seldom here from this crowd. those half the rush you're trying to alliance is the single greatest threat we face . joining us out to talk about this is none other than those who rob goop to. he's a senior asia pacific specialist based in washington dc and to say that he knows china would be an understatement. so ross, he's always gonna be an issue. there is no one i thought of more recently than you . i was watching the g o. p debates and i was watching all of these guy, just angry and explaining why the biggest problem in the united states and the world is china and what they're going to do to deal with that. of course they gave no concrete examples and no clarity of what they were going to do. but i don't know . did you get a chance to see that it was? it was like a bunch of, hey, i didn't, i didn't get it. i didn't give

a chance to see it and i was frankly not surprised of the all kind of beating up, but reading each of up and then trying to be returned on top of that. i mean, this is just a prelude. we're going to see a lot more of this in the next 2 months. why, why, why, what, what, what is with the? if, if somehow, if i bashed china loud enough, more people will vote for me. are america not so i think with a going at all to is trying to show that they have form policy, create that a lot of them. some of them do have foreign policy. great. others don't. and it's always good to have an interim be someone who can beat up on someone who use the although she is the other in fremont that way. so you have a target and it's always once you have a target, it's fun talking practice with all these fun. so i'm glad you said that because it was a hailey nikki haley who turns in the middle of. busy debate to mimic ramos swanny

and says you have no foreign policy experience as if you have no right to be here. on this stage after a key had said that we're actually making a mistake in our policies with both russia and china. because what we're doing, his words was bringing them together. and that's when she attacked them and says, your problem is you have no foreign policy experience. maybe we need more people with less spark plugs and see what i taught at that point of time. let's let me give you. let me like to point out to plus nikki haley is saying the exact things that lists trust and the united kingdom says and list price was the shortest united kingdom prime minister. and i think 300 years. i mean, she, she needs to figure that out. like she's her per day as possible. i the, i do you all to do what she thinks about in terms of international relations. it's oh, sorry. i mean, unfortunately she was born 30 is too what? anyways, so that's one thing about what, what she, what she needs to understand now too. but you know, it's, i just, i, by the way,

what you're saying with that is she thinks like a cold war hawk she thinks like, we're still in the 19 fifties and the shipping from on those terms. and then she, you know, the rigging came in the 1980s on them all in slip light is on water, you can do it. and so everybody wants we are rigging and everybody wants to be a catcher on the consumer side, on the republican side. and that's what i did with my, the his boss. and i mean, donald trump's coming itself is a signature off that that date has passed in terms of where the republicans used to be on certain policies. and so they need to, to let me wake up and move on. but also, you know, the 2nd point i'll make is, you know, by didn't actually play the sub. but i think the republicans would be completely on board in terms of he has a stomach and camp david's bike up the koreans and the japanese together and look at how tight we are and the linking of appliances, etc, etc. and you don't let us use coming up is uh, let's get north korea into our exercises. the russians are saying to the chinese,

so you're going to be russian, upgrade china, south korea, japan, the united states. how much fall? is it going to be? i'm using this the end of june, but to one more one into your computer. and that's what good to have folks who don't have that much room see, explain or so. so you think it's funny, what you just said about north korea using north korea sen suddenly going to be and, and the reason i'm asking this question is this recently i've watched emerging between india saudi arabia, iran of some other south pacific countries. russia parts of the middle east even is real, is reaching out to these groups and creating a sort of a, a bastion of, of thought process. if not unity, at least. so it wouldn't have surprised me tomorrow in this bizarre where we're living and to me or to most americans, it, north korea jumped into the fray and said, you know, what was the price they would want to do, but,

and others would not on well come back because if the south koreans up thinking of assisting the united states in a, any time on spread contingency, maybe they might be kept a little busy on their bordeaux, on this side by the north koreans and the russians. i mean, that's what the japanese lead to think, what they've had this kind of defense foster, which is moving away from the defense of northern japan from what was the soviets and the russian do moving towards the southern japan and just watch when i mean, when the russians start putting a little pressure out there on the north and thought suddenly, you think maybe it wasn't such a good idea to get into a lot to try to defend sculpture. because we need to resolve on matters with the russians, which i am going to be resolved for both and, and, and, and rather than and so, so i say that again say that again that we have to resolve our issues with the rushes because they have the usually resolvable and, and, and you've and you, you became passionate when you said that what's the result will do because,

you know, the previous one of the previous i was a long, long standing problem. this will all be. he was in long standing the negotiations with a, with mr. fulton and they did was to make progress in those negotiations. and what they're trying to essentially will call this is all of them are trying to go retrieval one side of the day seats all the other sites because frankly, japan's a position with regard to word calls of northern territories. and the curios is actually a very, very weak one, legally very weak one legally. so the russian side note of sovereignty essentially belongs to them, but they don't have the title in terms of the signature on the title document. and so they're willing to make compromises and concessions for walk around to find a, a solution to that. and think about it for, for a, for country like japan, which feels threatened by china. would you not want to have a little more separation between china and russian letters? but you know, they're all, let's get linked up and locked in with the us and try to whether the us ones for 5

people one find on i'm of the bringing greater problems upon themselves. and that's the problem. thanks so much to rob, stay right there. we've got more questions for you. okay. by the way, i'd like to continue this conversation with you. what do you say we do some conversing on twitter. my handle is rick sanchez. tv. that's rick sanchez, tv. i'll be looking for you there. when we come back. what are the us leaders actually say publicly about china? the china would never say about us. how share some examples with you. when we come back there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the or is the case of the med, most of the people. i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also absurd. this is the 3rd world will receive re washington, as for so the funder line likes to say, we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deals to be

living online. we have very quick propaganda. you know, a price here in new york. i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. the more questions ask the better the answer is will be the hey, what about gum, rick sanchez. although the chinese government always takes a diplomatic path, it's part of their culture and their nature when it comes to the united states or talking about the united states, american leaders have taken almost pleasure in attacking china. i'll give you some examples. president barton recently accused the president of china for the j. he said, he said he's a dictator. strong words, not exactly diplomatic, right? president trump said chinese thieves have stolen from the united states. and then

there's hillary clinton, who said that china is a doomed country. doomed, interesting word joyce, and simulating, i guess it doesn't have much time left. me and we're backed out with that. so i've got uh uh he is a senior asia pacific specialist and we're talking all things china. i don't know if you had a chance to see this report. so rob, i, i wish the guys had seen those who were in that g o. p debate because it came out just before they came on. and if they've read this report, maybe they would've re, saw their points about how we need to, i don't know bomb china guild china and our relations with china, china, china, china, here it is. tesla is reporting 40 percent of its batteries, 40 percent of its aluminum manufacturing, 40 percent of 33 percent of all the chemicals they used to make their cars come from companies based in china. so the tesla,

which is the car that all americans seem to want to drive these days and will be the car of the future. most of it is being made by companies in china. so that's exactly the china inside has the most competitive e v market electric vehicle market in the world. and if a tesla gets this, that's if you want to be competitive in china, a competitor globally, you need to have a china strategy and compete and win and china. because if you win and china, you will win anywhere else and goes to the problem that comes to some of those inflation reduction tax subsidies which i, which was the vitamin, is putting all failed to use for ease of cost trying to, to invigorate the n e industrial to a battery sector at cetera. and true turn off. i mean, you want to be a competitor in this place in the space. but before you are going to block chinese competition, all of which is the built most efficient come competitor out. you are going to create a marketplace which is not cutting edge. and if you're going to create

a marketplace which is not cutting edge, you are not going to be able to compete and international markets. so you may not have chinese production chinese cars in this market and you never know, even with all those the subsidies on the preferences, given chinese cost might still be be competitive as selling a lot and you're probably gone tilting in terms of ease. but anyway, the point being that if you want to be work class, you want to be work competitive, you need to compete with the best. and then doing in the inflation reduction that ensures that you're not competing with the best, which will not make you the best and will not make you competitive at the end of the day. they're trying to throw manufacturing employment in michigan and other places, georgia, etc. but they're not trying to create and manufacturing competitiveness, which is what you should be aiming at a long term, which is where china is going. and with tesla is going in terms of the sector. so it all sounds nice of this so much happening right in the space in the us. but mark my words, this,

they will not be bored compared to if we go with the argument that look, china makes our stuff and they did it better than we could at cheaper. so that's why americans, in many cases, lost some of their jobs because us manufacturers decided we're just going to let the chinese make our stuff walmart case study. right. and that's, that's really still going on, right? that really hasn't changed. jobs have not really come back to the jobs, have not come back to america. what. what, what has happened is america has maintained, it's become, is the hub of r n d. and it has just been kicked up and off of the value chain. and so, i mean, it is super innovative, it can be competitive, but much of the manufacturing happens as i think in terms actually the idea and sort of thinking. so this is something conduct of the us. so i mean, dominant, i mean the most muscular force in electronic design automation, in terms of how you do something conductor design in terms of innovation,

new techniques, in terms of sending 100 of manufacturing tools. but what is kind of deemed to be more blue color? it's not really blue color blue color because it's such sophisticated production is produced elsewhere. and right. i mean in terms of it happening, it's all right, so yeah, and, and, and so, and, and so i want to know there is a point to bring some all set back because you need a basic fabrication capacity in this country you can be 0, but so there is a certain logic to get even some production back out to, but the point is you have to compete by trying to buy like be going up the value chain and trying to be much as competitive. and that's based on the huge, enormous profits we do in us get a apple, what the sort of the value added in terms of as i phone comes from and much of it comes from non issue sources because less but much of the value is created. and that is where you have a bell. let me look, let me, let me check. let me push back as an american on this. okay, and i'm going to now agree with some of these guys who are the big blow hards on

the g o. p. debate, i get the resentment i. we weren't once it right. we were the big fish. right. and united states of america. and there is an argument to be made. i believe. so rob, you're the expert that the united states came up with this idea of high tech and much of the stuff the china now excels in, originally came from here and we shared it with them. and they took it over and they've kind of kicked our butts with it and in many ways maybe even manipulated their way into getting good at it. and that's why americans, at least are american leaders feel like, you know, what we, we, we, we, we held out i had, we gave you everything we had and you've taken and now you're beating us with it. and we don't like that. yeah. right. but 2 points, so to 1st of all, where are you going to go? because you'll beating us with it. so, i mean, you can go down, don't value in terms of your production in terms of you opened up to you can, as i said, you can get a little production at your end. but you can be going back to doing the ball

bearings and all because you know, you're going to compete with the china isn't all, but you're going to compete with much more average middle income countries who can, who can do that. and so that's going to be that's, that's going to be one of those issues up. but the 2nd point is, i mean, greater investments need to be made in society. altura much greater investments in education, etc, etc. you look at, in terms of mathematics scores and all those things, i mean, hong kong, single portion. i paging the students all from there. why should it be? ok? i read a report, i read a report the other day where in china, children in 4th and 5th grade are now being taught to program computers using a i i heard about a guy 3 months ago. i mean, not about a i, but it's, you know, like just to be the 1st time i ever started using, it was like 2 or 3 months ago and i'm a full blown adult children. and i had been program. i literally kind of know the 4

year olds and all that i'm telling you they have the most the exec, it's that the 60, you know, they have also some of the most competitive educational marketplaces in the world out there. it's, i mean very few sort of competition and it's not usually i mean at best and they don't complain. but this, this was just too much of putting too much pressure on what to turn off. but at this, at the end of the day, they know that there's a box to upward mobility to hardwell time dedication to a big issue of these things. and they've beat that. yeah. and they've done that in july that's it's not easy to make all humans but only share it with them. and so now that you've had took it from us, you know that what the sharing that was that happened was sharing off 2nd po, intellectual property. but then the top notch, intellectual property is never shared. it's maintained at home on the basis of which you kind of keep on multiplying and, and, and, and, and, you know, waiting at your end. and you share that,

that sort of thing to the next generation intellectual property, because you can make tons of money out of that, frankly, a bit. but what these smaller 100 poor countries of bedtime, that they don't that intellectual technology. and they were innovative because um they move forward with that. and i think that's what america needs to stay competitive also and not. and this is the real danger of tube with regard to this protect creeping protectionism that's coming in is that it will not be protection isn't with regard to preserving chips and also i don't think it will be production isn't going to like to print something very mundane. things because production is, is something we can all kind of support at the end of the day. because if you're a politician and that can be in the longer term of things dangerous and that's what is happening on capital. if frankie and flushing bankers who rob, you're always go to conversations like this, what i really appreciate it. all right, so before we go, i want to remind you of our mission. it's simple, really. we want to the silo the world. we've got to stop living in these little

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