because of my feeling is that given the very new emotional response on the bottom, these where it is to the hostage release, and those of us, the 2 more days of these releases to come. i think it's going to be very difficult to go back to the, the, the same mass bombing and destruction of that was go prevalent before the, the, the, the exchange because i hear something these way the public good will stand it. and then there are still some $200.00 hostages left the, these are, it is one of the release. i mean they, they, they, the very, very distressed about it. and they've already been, you know, these mass demonstrations, even yesterday in israel, demanding that the remaining of hostages be released. so i dentist saying that, um, yes, this is ro will resume uh,

its bombing and is disruptive campaign. but i think that it's good to gradually wind it down. i think that it's, it's difficult for them to, for the government to sustain this public support. they losing it if not completely lost it whatever international support that they have um, even the binds in the ministration has become exasperated as well. so i think this thing, but it will gradually be wound down and then they'll be more of these um, pauses and um, hostage exchanges uh down the road before. finally uh, some, some kind of a ceasefire as cobbled together. well, that happens that we get that, that, that in itself is also very difficult to say. well, not a martin during all this more and more. uh gosh, it's uninhabitable because you can't live there. there's no infrastructure at all to get it to sustain existence here. and um i,

i think i'm actually think the, the, the israelis will, with, with great fervor will continue. the operation may be less so on the ground, but certainly the bombing because martin, one thing that's not only does october 7th, mean a lot to a lot of people in israel fair enough. but having to have to negotiate with how much this is. this is really, really difficult for them. okay. and because when i mentioned earlier on the 2nd day of the exchange, there was a hiccup here in the know and, and it was some us saying, oh, you're not fulfilling the agreement. so, you know, and that's infuriating. and i think that, you know, when you know, when this 4 day exercise comes to an end, i think the israelis are going to have just as much fervor and anger and their demand for revenge. and whatever the costs of georgia, you're right, they don't have any international support left. so what the biden administration is behind is the, it's that thanksgiving speech that they even didn't yahoo gave. okay. basically

whatever it takes. so i'm very pessimistic martin. i'm also very pessimistic is what i think um, listen to how to come back after the sci fi with o'denza blazing. i was thinking it actually intensified the campaign to to make his point though there's a couple of issues here. festival, his own support is dwindling rapidly. i wrote an opinion piece, i think of to one week say how long has missed me. i got i, i'm not putting myself on the back from my proceedings, but i think he hasn't got long home. i think is an awful lot is really, is a wondering where he said, there's no way we're going to vote for this coalition again and, but nothing knows and popularity is plummeted. so there's pressure on him at home. but i think internationally, it's the key internationally. there are too many western leaders who on the one hand buying the drum and say, israel has every right defend itself in it. but on the other hand, i'm looking at the numbers of people in london, an, an american and dc, and around the world and thinking much longer, we don't politically,

if we don't do something about this useful life, you know, so you have staying in belgium who were to come out and really physically campaign for us. these for immediate recognition or more or less and media recognition of a published new state is one or 2 of the e. u. member states join them, which i guess they will assume that puts that's known as campaign on a stopwatch. and he may, will be thinking like, are we doing a 7 week, something like that? um do, can we do another 7 or 8 weeks? i'm get another 15000, they'll say it probably isn't 15000 foot of all. it may will be 30 or 40. we just don't know who he was on the rubble, you know, but he's probably thinking he needs to intensify this because he thinks that he can bring almost to his needs and he can get that victory up, the unconditional surrender. but another factor to this is that he wants to not let inside pollution anyway. well that, that will say, that's the point martin in, in the, in that throw it back to george here because, you know, we, the biden is saying, you know, he supports israel's, a goal of eliminating how might, as well do far as i'm concerned. that's just code for eliminating the palestinians

. josh, well i, i don't know um the over the bottom the ministration has said what we will not accept will not accept a re occupation of guys of israel. we will not accept the estimate, they cleansing and that all of those things are happening. well, i know that yes it is happening except that isn't and they may need not on a permanent basis. and then ultimately then, what is israel good? you can go on doing, i mean yes, i can go on under the pointers disruptive, crazy. but then they'll get to succeed in driving out the palestinian population minutes. and it's clear that egypt is not going to go along with a jordan, is not going to go along with it. the by the administration isn't going to go along with the so, you know, he can go on doing this. but these really public i think, is getting very wary of this and everything, you know, they're obviously very hostile towards a and it's in the yahoo. yeah. he's,

he's politically, he's done, but they want the hostages back. i mean, at this stage, you know, the little there was the feeling is what get we've made a point, but we want that. we want the hostages back. and, and then the, the idea that we're just going to go on bombing and bombing. and then these people say, well where, where are hostages? i just don't think that's going to happen. so, you know, this is the packing of all these previous, um, what we call this of moving the law and exercises, you know, is ro promos away. and then finally, when, when you know, they haven't really achieved anything very much, oh they, they call it a day and then just kick the can down the road. so you know the next guy and yeah, but, but, but martin, this is qualitatively and quantitatively this, this exercise of moving the lawn is of different magnitude. i mean totally different magnitude. and as i've already mentioned, the parts of the gods a strip now are completely uninhabitable. the, the, the,

the cost and then you'll have to remember the kate is going to continue. so, um, uh, you know, i, i tend to think that there is this kind of messy on the urge push that they want to destroy as much as possible. but you may not be, might not be bombing them anymore, but you, there's, there's no way to, to, to live. okay. and considering being these railways have been very stingy about aid coming in. um i, i think this is just the, uh, an ethnic cleansing by different means martin, but it is thing that can continue the blockade of age. i think that will be a huge political point. you know, took a wrong cut, a countries that really, really, really angry with this route and this and yahoo and they are literally frosting at the mouth and talk. he's been having a number of meetings with the run. you know, we comp mess with turkey. you just comp, mess with that size on me is not disciplined on me. you know, which is and they to remember, we can't afford to go down that road,

but i think those countries will demo. and when the, when the dust settles, they will adopt garza and they will basically rebuild in a couple of years old. there's a problem and lots of those institutions arise everything and what, what is real do then, you know, i mean, i think a bigger question here. going back to the, to the, to the 66 weeks. so 8 weeks or can, you know, do another run and he's done. i think that the clock is really ticking. and i think you'll be countries like cuts and took a who will actually put pressure on through back channels. the button administration and the a you an more a members days to say the enough is enough. let us now build the 2 state solution. we will come together and we will build it. and then, you know, we haven't got any situation that will the full that nothing you know, you can play with now he's pushed himself into a cool one. anybody? the other thing is, is it, israel? i mean, a lot of these really is a lot of humble, is ready to begin to ask themselves, how do we continue up to this? how do we function? we were an internationally plugged into the country to the rest of the world. you know, how do we explore goods, how do we trade?

how do we, there was so much, i'm a, i'm girls. there is so much um, well yeah, okay. yeah. fair enough, martin j, but you know what, how many of these countries have cut diplomatic relations with israel? okay. where is the, um, the uh, oil embargo is george has mentioned in the past. okay. uh, there's a lot of anger, but i mean, when it comes to policy, i still think there's a lot of weakness, particularly in the air bro, george, as we finish up this part of the program here, how does by move, move forward. i mean, he is running for re election. we have a 70 percent of young people polled. do not like his foreign policy. i think that's obviously what when and reference the god. so, but i think some of this i'm excited with we ukraine as well. is he permanently stained by this really adventurous foreign policy of his? well, i would like to think that that so and, and that's probably so,

but there is one cavity as well. that is that, um, you know, if with this does come to an end, let's say within the next, um, well lets say something within the next 2 months, it comes on that. so that takes us through to uh, january. you know, whenever we start the primary season, um, you know, what does the democratic body do in those circumstances? well, they do what they always do, which is, oh my god, if you don't provide me, the big bad, horrible orange man is going to come in. do you have to do everything you can do because both are buying and all those young people who are not protesting about is the legal? are there any way you think i'm allowed from to come in the big orange man as a even bigger supporter? at least able supporter of israel as the by ministration gentlemen. going to jump in here, we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some real and stay with our to the

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know who is the guy that illegal anymore wisely fort adjusted to be on boss weighing a 175 used to go through the sentence. are we going to let that stay? the welcome back to cross stuck were all things are considered 9 people go. this is the home edition reminds you were discussing some real nice the a. let's go back to george and change gears here. the, the, you and i've been using about over the last few weeks on how nature wants to become like, who do you need? you know, they want to be a magician's. they want to come up with creative ideas. ok. and obviously i'm making reference to ukraine after all,

next year is the 75th anniversary of the alliance. they're all very, very proud of themselves. and even though it's completely failed to keep the peace in europe, that is primary mission. and we've heard of these different ideas that, you know, you don't have to recognize that russia has a territorial control over the down bass to other regions and, and try me. and we'll just pretend they don't. okay? and the you don't have to walk away from what just going to pretend. and then you know, the old and tried tried and tire some policy of how about a no fly zone? okay, is it that's like an a new idea. okay. i mean grasping at straws, but as the alliance goes up to its 75th birthday, you know, most people retire before 75, george and i think maybe you know, the realize i'd be thinking about that too. okay. but they, they got to put a big i got to put some lipstick on this peg. george? yes, i see so well the yes, the 75th birthday party that's coming up next your life. i, dentist,

thing the need so cannot do what he did in vilnius last year just to fall ukraine off with you know, you know, of a bunch of meaningless words and of had on the head about on my head, i have to do something to say that hey, you know, we, we have accomplished something in ukraine and, and that's why i think of it is very significant. the, those, uh, i mean, this is something we've discussed before. those 2 um articles that appear recently, you know, one by on this photographs, moves them to form and they just say for general, one by admiral james. the reed is the form of supreme allied commander is one of the 2 most senior people in nato. and the rose said, well, we can do it, we can actually but induct ukrainians and they, so um and then we just present russian with the fed complete, are you ready to escalate and,

and wage war against nature and russia has throughout the so several special know that your operation has shown great reluctance to extend the war and ukraine to any late. so tara trip. so i did this thing that you know, the given the lead, it will just the stature of these 2 whole says, you have to say this is a stalking cause. and when nato made his previous mistake in 2008 is that he said it in public. we will bring your brain into nature that gave russia time to prepare an act. so what do you plan now thinking in terms when we're not going to say it in public, we just go to announce that this is done. we've gone it with way with being and gone and down. your brain is now in nato, and there's nothing rusher can do about that. i think this will happen, but i do think that this is what they're thinking about and that, that, that it is a really playing the ultimate game of chicken because martin. okay, what, what,

what's the se brussels does that, you know stilton bird that's, you know, it's going to be his parting gift to the world. so this where i said, necessarily have to recognize it. it may or may not, and it may continue. it's a operations in ukraine while the rest of the lions thing. so ukraine is a member, so i would throw the other way. so do you, do nato countries want to actively get involved in a war against frustrated goes, cuts, both ways go ahead. bismark is just so many things wrong with it. you know, it has when you, when you think of these people you need. so you know, a acolytes with a problem. ukraine is rather like, um, witnessing somebody standing over sick dog beating it with the sticks. you know, and the mo, the sick, the don't guess, you know, to the heart of the beach hoping for magical solution. that's really the cranes a miscalculation miscalculation layer, upon layer. and this is just another one of those saw fetched ideas. you're going to be going to pity the nato a lot. when they have that policy in july, you know,

what are they going to celebrate? and that's the problem. you've got ukraine, which is a spectacular failure. you know, and, and people are admitting it, it's not like people have been quiet. you know, a number of mates are leaders are actually alluding to this. americans are saying some of the most important people in the, in the, in the washington um swamp are saying, is this a war that we can when we, you know, we're old enough, 3 of us old enough to remember, that was the rest of it at the end of the vietnam war, he knows it's not, can we, when it is, you know, is it, is it winnable on any level, any emotional level? of course it isn't. you know, i think there are a couple of points wrong with the form and they just the secretary general's idea. you know, the ukraine kind of have sort of semi membership off base membership of nate. so he actually said, you know, it's a cooler read that some once that was set. so once you crane with times, this sort of them is special status membership of nato rush. it wouldn't the inside of that point because it would be a talking and they so many,

but they're already there. i know, but i think that's faithfully force as really friendship. you know, um, because again, you know, puts, it doesn't put the emphasis on russia. it puts the emphasis then back again on the west, and they to states to do what if then russia attacks, it will be back on there for the to another point is the nature is not an institution that does state building and you know, it's very difficult to have really criminally backward corrupt countries in it, you know, to set the level to set the standards towards countries like georgia, for example, you know, the aspiring to become a member member, a state of nature. so it doesn't do the unlike the e you the pretends that does that nature doesn't build democracy in one of the, one of the big points. one of the, um, the, to, to join the nicer club. you're supposed to have a pretty clean slates on corruption and the levels of democracy, even though it was built in the us, it was less reported that some countries offered uh, you know,

a get out of jail cod from for is it let's get to bypass that rule and line in, but i think the hardest bit to swallow of this is that in the document in that proposal, there is a suggestion. was that some, those regions that you were talking about would just be handed back to russia and forgotten about. and the problem with that of course is to that skips of so this is bang the fist on the table so hard and so long and said that is not negotiable. that throws up. another question between now and july is if the nature policy is going to go ahead, could it go ahead without zalinski is let's get the problem. yeah, yeah, it was a, that's exactly it. yeah, george, but i'm go going back to these, these nato plans, but they're not thinking in terms of security, say that that's again, nato isn't doing what it's supposed to be doing, thinking in terms of collective security. what they're that this magical thinking. and that's exactly what it is, is it increases insecurity for everybody involved?

me is doing exactly the opposite of what it was designed to do. george? well, that's the pages risen deadra. we thought the other day about this a boat at prices. there's just been manual to that of sitting there when school and, you know, here has been the, you know, no problem is adult, 77 years now is your nato alone bill that there's a border crisis with russia. so you don't need to, you know, is the, you know, it has to justify its existence and therefore it has to continue to manufacture the prices that he then presents itself as the solution towards. but now i'm now in this case of, um, inducting the nato infecting your brain into nato on the slide. it would probably go together with some kind of a, a, an honest that so now let's just, let's stop fighting for the time be. so leave aside this,

the russell will accept this, but if it goes together with that is a, we're not actually accepting these there, which is a loss. and that the, the now, of, of russia we just was stopped my doing for the time being, you know, ally, you know, korea in a vietnam also, you know, at the time of geneva conference in the fifty's. and this is the way americans often operate, which is, well, nothing is just settled. we'll leave it in the future. and then of course, you know, make nato can stop this whole thing up all over again. yeah, i mean, it really quick. so it appears what appears to be in play here is that they just can't order the words we lost. okay? so martin, they basically is this, they, you know, just to it just enough to keep the lights on. okay. i mean, just the know, you know, that's what or whatever it takes means now is the we keep, we pay their bills, we keep the lights on and wait, wait, we could keep up the rhetoric. but at the there's essentially they just,

the is essentially accepting defeat just not saying martin, but how long does that go on for, you know, i don't, i don't think for that much longer. it is, it will get to the punch you in july before number of commentators. a number of member states will start say, unless something has to be done. something has to be done about ukraine and quickly because nature itself as a credibility problem. you know, the, to get this nonsense that we do, you know, at the beginning of the world, you know, nato is, had a fresh shot of new life. you know, i injected into it. um, the ukraine will gave it a new identity, you know, following up from, from a microns brain that come in. i think that before that i don't buy that. i don't think that's still the case. i think the bigger the, the whole before. and if you're setting yourself up to be a huge international security operation, but you're afraid of funding one bullet, i'm sending one man to the front line and i'm just touching and dr. ducking every waving all through weaving. so every possible different magic soap. uh,

so that you don't go to will and that you just play the escalation code, everything every now and again. and, you know, but at some point we're going to look for escape goods, you know, between now and july. and so let's get ahold of the biggest get go there is he's been, he's having pressure put on him by some people in congress to hold elections next. a say no, no, this is a wrong time for elections. you know, i mean, like messing yahoo, you know, there's a, there's a link that like missing the, i, these are both leads is that know if they went to the post today they wouldn't win . so, um, you know, if there was a, some, the incentives, he's still a puppet of the board to ministration for as long as by and decides, you know, this is wonderful cartoon mem created on the social media of some of the blinds and putting his hand on the shoulder of lensky, as lensky is looking up to him, look into the boy saying, um, but use it until the end. and, but in the system, this is the end. well actually, i think we're going to reach that point between now and july. my, my $0.50,

my crate again is so tray of bread putting batch is the zalinski is going to be edged out of power. i think before those celebrations can go ahead and share but then what is the value of of need? so for ukraine, i mean it's a big so you know, some magical way george, they get in. so is, is the, the 52nd airborne going to start bombing russia? i mean, none of this makes any sense. let's go ahead the last, last 15 seconds. go to the bottom of the station, has invested a great deal. and so therefore, i don't think that just going to let go of it. i just thought that's all the way the americans offer it. and so let's gives a useful person. and then you know, you the, you know, he's a jewish as they keep are binding as well. so if you're okay and you're no longer have the alibi about the, the whole, the nazis into the residence up and you don't have a jewish present. and then, you know, you still okay, it's always to be i, again, i'm a token is

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