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to the left should be to go the hello, i'm the miller chan. you are tuned into modus operandi. the so called us pivot to the pacific is under way, but at terms actually kind of deceiving wellbeing, general public attention is placed on taiwan. there are quiet or for subtle moves being made in asia to town or china. today we'll take a look at mongolia,

landlocked between 2 superpowers, china and russia, for the west has labeled enemies when mongolia falls to western pressure. we'll discuss it. all right, let's get into the m. o. the thousands of years ago, mongolia was the eastern military power dominating across the region. riding on horseback toward modern day, your turn gets con, lead his so called hoard to congress, thousands and thousands of miles of territory forever entering his name and a world history. the mongol empire was once the largest contiguous land empire ever but fast forward some millennial later after a stint in the soviet union and then it's a bench will collapse. in the early 19 ninety's, mongolia has largely remained out of international news. until now,

a country of only some 4000000 people, most of whom live in abject poverty, the prime minister. oh, you are dean loops and almost right. made a trip to washington dc to meet with vice president campbell harris. secretary of state anthony linkedin and other bite and admin officials, president biden did not meet with them uncle in pm, but that didn't change the reason for the trip. the mongolian liter signed his country up to be a member of the multi lateral open skies. treaty that would make for mutual cooperation of air space and commercial flights. so this all in hopes that the deal would help boost the country's economic position. but as the saying goes, the devil is in the details of joining us to talk about this and the new attention towards greater asia will bring in

a friend of the show. our share comment off is a political analyst and consultant based in curtis done. he's got experience working with the u. n and the world back. so our share recently over the summer, the prime minister of mongolia made a trip to washington dc where he's signed onto the us multi lateral open skies treaty, which the us already has with a $130.00 other countries. the treaty on its face per ports to be about opening the sky, the commercial and cargo flights between countries, which obviously would help increase trade. so while much of that is true, is it also true that open skies treaties to come with permission for the us to use mongolia skies for reconnaissance flights, and vice versa? menu a, this is the case actually open skies the trees. they're always tricky. and so there

is a high possibility that to some countries as how those treaties to use open space for various purposes, including reconnaissance missions. and that's precisely the reason why my role is neighbors such as china and russia are concerned. they're deeply concerned. so china has been new voice needs to that, if concerns that the us is conducting a reconnaissance missions for 4 or 4 years. and so, and russia, you know, as you, as you know, now it's in the state of war. so russel also made its concerns clear so, and there's no way mongolia chan sure that this guy's treaty, will not be used by the us to conduct a record of suspicion. so it's very hard to establish that to look at this point. we can say that the open sky streets, they're just open and so of, and those concerns about china and russia should be taken seriously actually. so

skeptics to this new collaboration which the american vice president described as just strengthening ties. the skeptics say this relationship is more about what the us wants from mongolia, and that would be one to drive a wedge between mongolia and its neighbors, to the north, russia, and neighbors, to the south, china, and then to, to have access to the, to procure or extract some of the vast mineral wealth in mongolia such as gold, copper, and other rare, or minerals, which are estimated to be valued at roughly 3 trillion us dollars. we should note that your own country curtis done, has similar mineral wealth or the skeptics, right? so about mongolia look, skeptics that are right, in this case, the thing is the united states, it makes no secret that it wants mongolia to be on the side of the western world in

this 2 political rivalry. the thing is over the past several digits starting from the 199212. 99 is one goal yet, but was able to shed a chuckle from the soviet union. the united states has invested billions of dollars a lot of efforts to make one goal, a model, democracy. so the other neighbors, including countries in the central asian region, take example from one goal. so the us has a vested interest. there were a number of events who handle it, that we can democracy in the eyes of the us officials so, but now sticks are too high. and so the united states wants to cheap mongolia as a country. it wants to keep its resources away from russia and china and be useful . my goal is prosperity, and it was to remain a democracy and a d on the side of

a democratic world. and of course, my goal is in a very difficult situation, just like the central asian regions. it has deep ties with china, 90 percent of its expos go to china. 90 percent of the main goal is the hydro power resources oil gas come from russia. so one goal is very depending on those 2 powerful neighbors, but it also wants to preserve really good relations with united states. mongolia wants to keep that image as a, as a shining democracy on a hill, a very bad, also, tara neighborhood. and there are a lot of my goal is to go up with this belief that they are different, that they are a nation that has the lowest past. it has an issue of congress. and now, or these people, especially younger generation, you want to be a, uh, strong democracy. and it wants to be like a, like, connected to the west of the world. but it's at the same time, they're cognizant that without russia and china is a country memorial. most of life, so it's

a conundrum. when you let me go in officials in order soon as they are finding themselves between a rock and a hard place. on the one hand, they want to use their resources to kind of, to explore that to the west, to the east. so they want to preserve good relations with both of the worlds. and it's hard to sit on the 2 chairs and hang up in these hard times, a testing my goal is patients. meanwhile, mongolia a green several years ago to the c, m r e. c, the china and mongolia, russia, economic court, or what's done prairie road. now for china, this falls under their b r i the belt in rhode initiative or what some might say the new silk road that rail starts in china is 10. gin goes through central mongolia and then north into rushes, siberia and quarter. so this one vastly improved mongolia has import export capabilities,

given that a, you know, as a landlocked country. what is the attitude about initiatives such as this across that region? well, the general attitude of the people in the region, including the mobile and essentially asian countries, is highly positive. any arrangement in with china and russia involved? it's a good news from one goal that people and the central asian populations. so there's lovins, you 1000. 1 goal is already part of numerous organizations involving china and russia, china hutch critical operation, i see on score of others, world trade organization, someone who is the low, those international inter public organizations. and they also want to, they want their goods to be explored all over the world. but there's also some skepticism . one goal is the country of less than $4000000.00 people. and there's a certain number of organizations where you can be effectively a member, you know, of these organizations, the carol of obligations. and they did tax resources as well as the energy of the

government, which is already strained by so many commitments as so many projects internally and externally. so the question on the minds of skeptics is this, can we pull this new initiative off? do we have the resources we have the stamina to carry through. so and my goal is to realize that they are overstretched. so, but nobody can't stand against any issue where china is, is one of the party. so i think that there's positive editors enthusiasm, but there's also concerns. there's quite concerned yes, sanctions and the like. now we've seen that us do this already all around the world . all right, coming up next one goal, we're is stuck between a rock and a hard place. i'm referring to the ceo and nato. we'll discuss it when we return with alice are coming up so tight. the ammo will be right back. the

the show just don't have to shape house and engagement equals the trail. when so many find themselves will support. we choose to look for common ground the russian states never. i've side as i'm one of the most sense community best ingles,

i'll send send up the send the 50000 speedy one else calls question about this. even though we will fan in the european union, the kremlin mission, the state on the rush of funding and supports the r t supposed net, keeping our video agency roughly all the band on youtube tv services. what question did you say it's a request, which is the welcome back to the m. o i manila chad. we are back with alice your comment off. he is a geo political analyst based and curtis sound. thank you for staying with us ally

share. so let's talk more specifically about mongolia is domestic circumstances, according to transparency dot org on the countries corruption perception index. mongolia is right among some of the most corrupt countries in the world. there are only 64 other countries in the world with worse scores. what's driving that perception and what would help improve it's ranking in the world? when you look, i'm st. curtis star button curtis done. we closely observe. we watch what happens in mongolia because what happens there will have strong repercussions for us. and we are developing along similar lines. so we, we both were pursue of coming to stay is we both of these countries, they suffer from soviet or corrupt bureaucracies, as well as a decrepit crumbling infrastructure and just like mongolia. curtis don also

has problems with these. a powerful business leads could have told ties to ruling establishment. so, but one thing above one goal is that it's a small country. and you would think that in this small country where population is less than 3 and a half 1000000, that would be stronger oversight over government, bureaucracy, and institutions. but the reality is quite complex. so we know that the local officials, they fight with corruption. they have all these initiatives, but at the same time, there are strong suspicions among people that will, there's a lot of corruption. the thing is media, the mcgloid. it claims that it's open and all that. but to a lot of jo was the use self censorship because they're afraid of these business, the leads to control the goal and so they use self censorship. so without strong media, without strong watch dogs, it's very hard to fight corruption. most importantly was your order for you has

a place rule, vast country. so you go to alone bought the capital, it's just flourishing. it's just a lot of money in that city, but outside loan butter regions, you know, those rural areas, the development that won't bother and see the smoke trickling down. and the reason is that traveling from bloomberg to those distant ridges is quite problematic. the roads network are not networks of developing, but they're still many kind of a there's, there's need for, there's room for improvement. so when you have a vast country, you see it's hard to travel to this region. so it's hard for officials in below mater to cheap oversight over those drill grass in the region. so there's this geography. so, and then there's this a role of history as a communist country, formerly communist country. google inherited a lot of corrupt institutions, as well as the government officials watch doing board for good air officials. this

steel cherry story was all those of the young democrats and reformers have come to power. so there is this a struggle for control over the country between young reformers and the old fluid era. nomic le tour. uh like a buick. buick drop or so in some it's a complex country. and so ordinary people just like in the central asian region have lost hope. they had been a number of uprising, so revolutions. all of them were rooted in high corruption in government. so business interests that have ties to china. they also play a big role. and we know that the china is not known for democratic control over or as government. so my goal is to actually use andre, listen from china, and they're all the business interests going back and forth. so the, some people, some skeptic believe the ties with a bone democracies explains it wise instruction, but such concerns, of course, they might be overstated. but generally,

i think that there's this popular this content or how they're going. but as long as we mentioned before, mongolia is landlocked between 2 super powers, russia and china, they're members of the seo, the shanghai cooperation organization. but they're also what's called a needle partner where they're not signatories or full members. rather, they've signed a memorandum of cooperation with the block, or the one goal is hedging their bets here in terms of security, do you foresee a time in future that they might have to choose sides one walk over the other? one thing is that, well, that has been under this pressure for centuries manila as a country, it has been on the influence of so many large power. so since the time of getting you called in. and so even today we see the strong rivalry of

a one goals. they've proved great diplomats and skilful negotiators for now they managed to keep this geopolitical rivalry in control. and they've played the cards well. but things are getting harder and harder. and the officials, they have acknowledge that how was this west and the sanctions against russia. caesar become very difficult. so what we should keep in mind that the main goal is not going to enjoy new to any time soon. and this part of the partnership for peace or for some of the programs, but we have one goal as part of need or they don't include memberships. they're not even close to that. so they provide mongolia a chance to train their soldiers along with some needle trips, but nothing more, nothing less than that. and so my goal is aware of that, and it's actually a showcasing partnership with, with needle. there's just a symbolic, a practical solution which is not intended to, we can uh, model this tie,

securitized with russia or china, china and russia come 1st when it comes with security. uh, for one goal. yeah. and there's no way more than one goal. you have to choose other regions or countries or rush or you try and they will put a big price. so in some one goal is to jana play was delicate game and balancing game. and this is similar to what we in the central measure, which was back as phone calls like stone and target started doing. so we're closely watching them go home on goal is pretty russia house, really china in the us. so what you learn a lot from mumbles to pasadena, to have good relations with all these large and small countries. according to a 2020 report by the world bank, my goal is poverty rate remain stubbornly high. 28.4 percent of the country is considered impoverished. that's surviving on just under $2.00 per day. the next

15 percent of my goal is population is just barely above that poverty line, which means they can easily slip into the former group. so together that is some of 43.4 percent a mongolia has 3 and a half 1000000 nationals, almost half the population who subsist on about $5.00 per day or less given that countries and natural resources. i think this is a stark contrast. how can a government improve the living standards for its people? the, the 1st step is actually to clean the government to clean their act. so the officials, which are now strongly tied to all these informal business, the lead. so they need to cut those tories. there's a conflict of interest going on, and so much of the development goes to long bought are as as upset. and while other regions they are receiving short attention is sufficient attention from the central government to the and other important step is to look at china. so

china is larger this powerhouse. in fact, much of the developing, the goal that has seen over the past several days is, is thanks to china, china's investments and more legal migration of mobiles, interviews, parts of china. and so without china as a can only help, i think more rolly and so will not achieve strong level of developing. so, and number 3 is that without russia, royals, there won't make much progress, especially the region. so my goal at which border russia, so the investment from russia in terms of oil and gas, uh, they are cheese one goal and economy. so um, but we should also keep in mind that the geography is a major hindrance to develop. and so much of the bladder specialist and so, and of course there are a lot of resources, but extracting those resources requires high tech equipment. uh, you know,

these trains, uh, specialists, uh, really dedicated people who can work in harsh environments. you know, my goal is, suffers from this condition called jude. it's like this cool, really bad weather that affects new role in winter. billions of livestock dies because severe climate, the condition, so it is a huge impact on, on the economy. so how can you were standing alexa, the such harsh climate, the condition? so there are a lot of uh, difficulties for mobile government and so mangle government has been trying to meet those challenges by relying on, you know, how from china as well as from russian. so in some to complex a question of home move or to move forward. but there's a already a team of a buick, right. of official training in the west were educated in china. i think that they know they, they have the best best answers to the questions and come on developing. and so they are now struggling for influence. and i think that with these officials,

i think my goal is in good hands. so it sounds like there needs to be more focus on infrastructure in that country. now last, alice, your as, as a cultural note, can you tell us a little bit about what type of structure that you're sitting in and what are you wearing when you are? i'm actually now on the shores of lake is cool of 800 years ago. a more gig hon and his horde of the conquerors. they marched all the way from the source of cool, courteous task monitor, tory on was to you on the congress. so i'm sitting in a traditional one gold jr. enjoy your style. we call it is yours, and i'm wearing a deal actually. it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a wonderful traditional manse clothing. as you can see, it's really a fix. it keeps new or it's really cold now and it's a glare. so i guess they are amazing structures. they are like a round shape to

a weak ram type, tense and so they keep people warm because they are surrounded by so felt the made avoid the highly mobile. that's what the conquerors soul just broke with them along the way. it would stain these gears and so it's really spacious, as well as in house or more than 20 people. so it's, it's, we are encouraged stone. we are proud of our wonderful guys. these are cherry mole, new blood as well. my, my interest is the old windows and i'm so proud to be connected to my goal is for blood, as well as through culture, alice or comment off political analyst and consultant based and curtis down his background experience working with via un and world bank. thank you so much for your time and coming to us from the coolest structure that we have ever seen on the show so far. thank you. right? that's going to do it for this episode of modus operandi the show that digs deep in

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