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what is in other countries or other newspapers in other parts of the world? just when the lever, however we, we, we have had this conversation before and you know, my, my, my views. i do the spice lazy. journalism. i do think you cannot narrow down conflicts, wars into, and not all of our very shallow terms, which is what has been happening. uh, it seems to me, there is this obsession with black and white with good and bad cowboys and indians . and it isn't. this is a 75 year old conflict, more than 50 years of an occupation. there has been back and forth. there has been history. there has been an attempt to a piece of, you know, this conflict did not start on october 7th. and it just wouldn't say shameful, but it's a disservice to the audiences of those channels. who are let to think this whole
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conflict started on october 7th, which is absolutely not true. but why do you think it's happening? i mean, you oversee news rooms and you've ever seen lots of journalists before. what do you think is going through their heads in the news rooms in london power as well in washington. again, when you again, i'm responsible for what's know of my nipple. i feel better, but the tube and the 7th, if you, if you start talking about context, if you start talking about history, you automatically somehow support the mastic as of october. so i mean, look, part of it in my view is simplistic and possibly lazy, possibly ignoring it during the reason. i'm not everybody on some part of the during noticed. unfortunately they happen to be working and very influential media outlets. but let's not also separate the coverage from the political position. so the coverage is now becoming a bit more fair across different platforms of talking in general. but the political
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positions of also changed. again, it was very one sided, it was black and white. the israel has the right to defend itself, full stop and, and the, nobody talks about the civilian casualties on the other side. and i started this conversation by saying, you know, every life lost on either side, every civilian life lost on either side is a life too many. so i think the coverage has evolved and has become fair as the political position in most western countries has also started shifting. it's not very often the thousands of children have been slow to. absolutely. it's not there yet. uh, we do hope to see a permanent the ceasefire, and we do hope to see a recognition of the state of palestine in the security council because that is the solution to this conflict. and, and that is the biggest guarantor of israel security. but of course, the fact that the new york times that amazon washington post and then put the photographs that are news has been running the week before it. that was part of the
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narrative that helped the u. s. u. k. you nation obsession with this thing. there must not be a 6 for narrative to take whole. the medium was presumably take some of the blame for not showing the kinds of pictures that were on newspapers in say, in our news and news outlets across the global south. well, absolutely, but the new bill has shifted. and you know, we can criticize as much as we want the media and democracies, but they do have a sort of an auto correct. it doesn't function all the time, but they do have an auto collect function that you've seen the protests outside of the new york times calling them then your crimes. you've seen the workouts of employees, m as in b. c, have influenced the and shamefully stopped the programs of 3 of their mostly present. there's a streets a few days into the conflict. they've, of course, reversed the decision after the story that we did, by the way, uh at uh, at
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a muse exposing to that which i think is shameful. its on democratic, it's unconstitutional, actually in the united states. so then either is moving, it's not moving as quickly as we would have liked it to, to old we're asking here is the fair and balanced during that isn't that we have been promised and we've been taught in textbooks and during that isn't schools? well, because amazon basically denies has anything to do with the totality area and is the one on that pump. it's as far as, you know, made the statement to be fair, which says a lot as saudi arabia, as a it's policy is james on uh, on this uh, let genocide, i mean both savvy and the you a cooling for cease wise at the united nations and then saw the radio, the m b a saying they should be a global arms embargo on israel. what do you think? uh, i mean i know just israel would, you would support us at the holding expo 20 for the t perhaps in response to the hey, hey, hunter, response. but what do you think?
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so how do you maybe meant by that? because obviously all the arms being is just move to the thousands and thousands of children, all nato. so from the united states, in your opinion, in britain, what you need, what i think, what the position clearly says is you need to be said across the board of the board . so if i'm producing countries such as the united states, the embargo selling weapons to countries that they think are korea, are using them for genocide or for war crimes, then that should be or will that applies on everybody, not have your favorites, exclude it. what's happening here is again, with funding a sympathy for the innocent lives lost on october 7th. this does not justify the killing of over 15000 people, innocent people. a lot of them are babies. a lot of them they have just, there's been a footage. there's been so did you recently released of a baby,
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an insect really that was picked up out of the problems by a miracle. he or she is still alive, but you know, you and i and possibly every human being on the plan, it's can agree that is not a terrace that cannot possibly be a total risk. so where is the condemnation? where is the sympathy and how can we know as a humanity, as countries that preach mortality in a breach human rights for such a crime to be committed? so absolutely, an embargo should be across the board then his role should not be exempted if it is using these weapons to commit crimes such as these ones. well, clearly joe biden bridges, so neck european leaders, they know the pictures of the kind you just spoke about and said these realize the right of self defense regardless. and they knew that the thousands of children were being killed and still didn't change their policy. in any case, i mean,
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i want to return to expert 20 for the union ounce and for saudi arabia. but of course, the fact that saudi arabia and the u. a today you a national day have taken such clear positions versus 5 when the americans and western europeans are seeing a cease fire only benefit some us. or what do you make of the lies told, against the you a bad cough? 28, being an exercise in fossil fuel negotiation and the increased, you will propaganda are against our nations, like saudi arabia in the u. a. off to them positions on gaza. this is to full to allow me here to answer 1st about the difference in positions about the u. e. and so the vehicle in for a ceasefire and the u. s. opposing it, i think the best answer to that is what the winston, how winston churchill described, the americans is that they will do the right thing after they've tried everything else. saying that's the ceasefire. only benefits from us is very short sighted. it is shallow and it is absolutely a wrong,
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very entity is not on just is not just on this instance. there has been several previous incidents with solidarity b as a us ally. as a us friend have advised, particularly the obama administration and the by the administration, that's what they are doing to is, is wrong and has cautioned them that this will have consequences. that's what harm american interest for the forget about our own interest. forget about the regional interest. it will harm american interest. we weren't them when they were negotiating with, with it on the nuclear deal, excluding of the 8 on the other activities in, in the region back in 24 saturday. that on through the crime in 2016 and we weren't the obama administration that you're going about it the wrong way. and what was the answer? it was 34. see what i liked it on 3. the attacks on the u. s. navy. so what's happening now is just to see repeating itself,
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we are advising as saudi arabia, as people from this region in the us, we are advising western countries that you know, it's an immediate cease fire is in everybody's benefit. but unfortunately, they cannot see through that, and there is the result of what they're going, what, what they're going to now is going to be more hate crimes on the streets is going to be bleeding more, etc. and by that time it would be too late to, to pick up the pieces with regards to your points to your question regarding a cup 28. look, and i think we are at the position now in this region where we sort of got to use to be a constant finger pointing. and the double standards one has to ask, why is it that when the u. e, which is a country that is doing its fair share and support thing, sustainability gets, it gets the lecture and the on the, on the fact that it's a um,
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an oil producing country. when you know 2 cups of good happened in scotland, we didn't see the same. the rest of the same arguments can happen. it can can be argued regarding the world's cup and caught caught, that has human rights abuses. i'm out of hand and put that, you know, i, i put my hands down and i would agree, but that does have its human rights abuses. but that doesn't. so the russia before it. and so does the united states, which country does not have a human rights abuses, size of, of, as i have to stop use that more from the editor in chief of our muse after this, right? the historically, india has never been a model of any military alliance auto political in the lines. that is the fundamental difference between india and many of the other countries. so this comes with the total price, because as you said,
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the alliances and countries which want you to be a part of the mind if you're not, then you looked upon with a suspicion. but in the garden of us showed all these black and white divisions or the, the, the russian states never the phone and the most sense. community best ingles all sense and up the in the 6595 and speed. what else calls question about this? even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin, the machine, the state on the rushes to day and split the r t smooth net keeping our video
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agency roughly all the band on youtube, the payment services. for what question did you say? even closer to the, by the early 1950. can you? it became one of the centers of resistance to colonialism in africa. the british invaders infringed on the most basic rights of the local population. great britain pursued the policy of squeezing out the local population from their indigenous lands. the best airable areas were given to white farmers, dooming canyon stepfather, d, and hunger. this caused the sharp protest of the peasants and led to the emerging
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of the mile mile movement. which started the fight against the invaders. the rebels felt themselves kenya, land, and freedom army disappeared as a leader of the movement would be anti colonial. active as jo, mo, kenyatta to freedom fighters used guerrilla tactics and attacked individual units of the british groups. the latter responded with massive air raids and artillery effects. when suppressing the uprise of london relied on the maximum cruelty over $50000.00 canyons were killed. about 300000 people were thrown into prisons and concentration camps, where tortures in no way inferior in girl z to the nazis was widely practiced. the veracity of the colonial list only led the temporary success. in 1963, the british empire had to recognize the independence of gain yet, however, the colonial regime left behind a trail of blood and wounds that canyon nation has not recovered from huntsville.
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now, the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with the editor in chief of our muse by some of us faithful it ended. but when we were just talking about the i can be the weaponized ation of human rights. no response. by the way, from the i c. c. after the arab league, oh, i see conferencing that israel has to be investigated. clear that human rights that human rights industry is now kind of over of to the lead shanice i didn't nga. i mean, if you want to go to technicalities, then they would argue that the licensee would only look into cases when nations were nations are so israel, i have a lady that rush, but you know, the protestant isn't recognized as a nation, but the but then again, if you want, if they want to argue that argument, then the right to self defense is also only applicable against in other countries.
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like the, you know, i said it's not the effect that they want them to make sure that it's not applicable. and this is not for me, this is from the human death i've seen in human rights report for at the u. n. a. francesco been easy, who is a human rights lawyer? the rights for self defense ceases to exist if you're an occupying power. so there's a lot of legal community that wasn't depreciated by any or western european politicians . ok, we continually repeated that then. so why has the i c c being silent? do you think what is undisputable is the collapse of the moral high ground or the proceeds more on high ground of many western countries? when we see, when we allow 15000 innocent people to be, it could when we allow babies to be uh, you know, dug up from under the rubble when we use a fuel water, electricity, as a weapon. who,
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who gave israel the right to be able to turn on and off water? it's a basic human, a neat and i repeat to say this, this is in no way seeing what happens on october 7 is justified for the fact you have to say the same, so no bit smaller, haven't gave me the editor in chief of our view is just not to support the october the 7th attack because it's very easy for people to pick and choose sound bites and say i, but you're saying this, what i'm seeing is what happens. any human, any innocent human life last is a life too many on an on either side. but the simple fact, i mean and, and the fact that we have to stress this is unbelievable. but that does not justify the kink at as they say, 2 rooms do not make it right. you cannot get 15000 people because you had 1200 people. it's not the numbers. it's not the numbers game, but you cannot give a car launch for a country to do whatever it wants to innocent people in this way and then retain
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the modern, high ground. i think the, the moral high ground of the so called what on high ground of many, if there was some country has now has been exposed to the old words population. but despite the global south, the differences with winston churchill, we've heard from the state department names that look, look what happened to dresden in response to the nazis. that's how the nato countries have been responding to. yes i, i didn't go making a look at drugs, been busy. i was just doing drugs of the game. you have the 2 rooms do not make, make it right. and you would argue that that's happened a few decades ago since then. i believe there's been a lot of investments in work in technology, precision the technology. and since then, you know, arguably you should have the means to be to wage wars in a way that's causes less a damage to civilian lives and civilian areas. unless you have the car
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launch from the world's biggest browsers to do whatever you want. thankfully we are seeing that cars lunch slowly being with withdrawn a bit too late in my opinion. but let us pray for 30 minutes to cease fire and let us hope for up in a city and state. because as i said earlier, that is the only way this conflict is going to end. and that is the best go into our force is real security. what can arrow countries do more as regards this happening a game? and then only is time. uh say, i mean, we've seen the bombing of damascus international airport, the civilian airport. and we've got the 200 syria between you a inside of the and syria. best putting aids, the giving aid the saturdays in the moratti's. they are, they are the you in force for leasing fees for. this is, this is an oil one way to be able to the force of the issue here and save some of
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those children. not only for golf 28, reducing production, and to find some entity blinking school to increase production. but also to say, if you do this, production costs will be greater then you will expect. what uh, oil is not within in the same way that we don't want. or we hope that is ran answers the cause that stops getting civilian. when you cut off oil and you are affecting babies and incubators, all across the world, the effect in school, children that are affecting the elderly. and you know, it's definitely not on the table. and there are very wise reasons why it's not on the table. but if you're asking me, why are you, i'm optimistic that the at a is the most them approach this time is different. i'll tell you why. we are seeing an unprecedented a unified front in, in the region with support from other global power such as russia and china perhaps where the very 1st time in,
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in history. and so remember we had the defense with the, with the, with the it on. and the eating and leadership attended the meeting in the 3 are, and we're seeing the series of the declaration if you had a risk amongst themselves, that had been results. so you have a unified front with, between saudi arabia and cuts out, which as you know, hosts how much leadership, which is a very powerful assets and in this unified front uh at the moment. so what i'm trying to say is, this time we're able to do more because of the unified in rhetoric, rather than actually no, not really. there is what he's got to have more action than a few rhetoric, even though there's good to send in the military to attack is there are, there is a team of, out of foreign ministers that have done other than most of the states for ministers that have done a world tour which has started in, in china and just recently was in new york to attending at the united nations. and
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they, i've not seen in the past few decades, a more unified at a most lin front. and we are hopeful that these diplomatic efforts we are using every method in the book to try to get that to a permanent, to cease fire and try to get a recognition of the police thing. and as the countries are frightened, always rarely we've seen in reason daisy loan musk such a powerful 1000000000 and with ex formerly do it to he he got frightened of israel, gabriel because he was there taking a trip round the keyboard says with and yahoo, he hasn't taken up on the house is the offer to go to gaza. how frightening the people of israel in this region? well, i'll tell you people, i think all that just let me take a look at that. can't be possible because we are semis over ourselves as a as arabs. i think this right when coalition that benjamin nathan. yeah. who is
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leading when you have one of your own minister culture ministers? never the less saying they want to new. augusta. i mean, i hardly can think of anybody that you know wouldn't be frightened if that's is that if those are the words that are being authored by a member of the cabinet. so can you just imagine if the implement that, of course, the directive the 2nd day, but you know, the fact that it, it was sent when, you know, the, the defense minister causes, or palestinians human animals and that they will be treated as such. that is a very frightening statement if their response to the saudi arabia, calling for homes and by go was to stop them. uh, backing. i didn't even know they backed saudi arabia for expo 20 for the low israel, a by the denied backing saturday. one sign maybe of optimism, perhaps they'll be signs of optimism if go up 28 for saving the planet, just to explain what it means that expo 21st he will be inside here. ravia
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announced this week, and i think it's a huge victory for a saudi arabia in terms of its diplomatic efforts. because as you know, it took a lot of lobbying, but also an excellent opportunity to showcase the new and saudi arabia to showcase old, the reforms that have been and in a very interesting coincidence, schoolvision 2030. so people will get an opportunity to come to sal, good idea and witness really a miracle in the making because what has happened in the last 7 years has been unprecedented on so many levels. and it's one of the few countries in the world where there's actually, i mean, the crown prince called the success story of the 21st century. and that is the reality. when you see that we are scheduled to be the fastest growing economy in the g 20 this year. when we exceed the target set for women, employment, or inclusion in the workforce we. we went from less than 9 percent to more than 36
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percent. and in less than 6 years, that is remarkable. and i don't want to even start talking about the architectural buildings that are being that are being created. because that's the easiest. that's the easiest part, but it is a melting pot of different cultures and people shouldn't be surprised. i argue we have been holding x for, for to 1400 years. we have organize the has since the days of the profit. so we are very used to welcoming people from will not have these, and this would be an opportunity in a very different the context of course. but people will experience and the solve the hospitality on our excellence at what coming people just just finally then, i mean we've seen this me as against the u. e because of the golf 28th as well. no doubt it seems to me is against saudi arabia. because not so much of holding x to
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expo, but because of its positions on numerous global south issues. what more can jesus, the countries do to fight that? or maybe it doesn't get perceptions that are clearly created by some groups in western europe and in nature, nations against jesus, the countries against as well. i think we should carry on by doing the right things because they are in the benefit of our own people and if our own country and one would hope that the viewers leaders in the sitters around the worlds become, are becoming more educated. um, you know, when to take it back to that goes a conflict. it was a fascinating that the, you know, people are constantly asking, do you condemn? how much do you know who the biggest sympathizer will support of thomas is it is benjamin netanyahu. and those are not my words, those are an editorial in the times of israel. so in one of israel's only
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newspapers, they are blaming and that's on yahoo for what has happened. and they said his strategy for the past 15 years of undermining the legitimate palestinian authority in the best westbank what. how much does not exist and one at the same time and followed and come us. in fact, he's quoted to see if you want to for ever forget or a disabled opinion state or do you need to do is continue to support the how much will they thought it's suddenly a recruitment sergeant i think, is seen by most of the global south the actions of israel, i'm by these ne donations i should just say a culture of the 8 all these important degrees flying in to do by do you think they'll be a lot of guys are on the sidelines and do you think they'll be success stories emerging out of as wireless phillips and usually we see what's going on in the west bank in syria, in uh, in guys says that the u. e is a very important player and hats off to them for carrying on with what they need to
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do with the important agenda. they have 4 cop 28 for the important agenda that they have in a lot of humanitarian aspects in their mission to mars. the continue a heads up to them, the continue with disregarding the virtual signaling, the finger pointing and the city. and this that goes on, i think word leaders will be when advice to a pub. serious conversations with the leadership of the u. e. with the leadership of saudi arabia and try to find the solutions to the 21st century from the country that as described by the saudi conference is going to be the 21st century success story. i think there's a lot of wisdom in having these discussions and start having constructive conversations as opposed to disruptive ones. pass syllabus. thank you and that's it for the show will be back on monday, hearing host, who called 20 i do by we don't 3 in front of the united nation special rapids on climate change and human rights,
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