pleasure, i'll put you out for coming on. so for days in just remind us of critical it. is this a golf $28.00 and how you under your special are up to a ship. you directly link climate to human rights and how climate transformation will hood the poorest in the world. if nothing's done about it. well, yes, this is a critical issue. i mean, climate change represents of one of the most serious sorts through here, manatees that we've ever faced. and it, and it's a, you know, it's already causing palm to many, hundreds of thousands of people that the rights to was, the food shelter are all being affected. by the impacts of climate change. and yet of course we have the richest in the world, say the washington post owner amazons you haven't met, as well as talking green like other all the gods. but with a half a $1000000.00 york's that need super time, because withdrawal king and it made $7000.00 tons of common a year aux. i'm reporting that just 12000000000 is bill gates. jeff,

as us del musket brokovich, they use the same as 2100000 homes and you have the carbon emissions equivalent of 4.6 coal cold plants, just every yeah is in the it really the gap between rich and poor. here. that's a in question. odd. yes, it's critical let you know we, we have a huge in balance and in the, the amount of people who use greenhouse gases and it costs that you know, the rich countries and, and the billing is using a far greater emissions. and then the pores, people, how do you think the going to pay for the poor us to people at this go up to the age limit as well. i don't think they'll get a price for it at this caught, but i think inevitably they gonna have to to pay somehow. and i think this is part of the discussions where having during this comp summit around this lawson damage fund, it's clear that we need a fund,

but we'll draw from uh, you know, rich people from corporations that are producing greenhouse gases and to pay for the home that they causing to, to pull communities and yet, well presumably see a lot of green washing. i mean, it's these oligarchs that always talk about how good they offer the environment. i know that in your presentation to view inspector general of the general assembly, you have a whole section on green washing and climate washing. what is the danger at comp 28th of these big multinational companies, using the summit to make up they, are. they care about the environment. yes. all this is eliza. great. fear of, of this sort of amazing break, you know, people coming together to make it sound like to doing the right thing. but clearly, with quite concerned about the issue of green washing and you know,

saying the right thing, but not actually doing the right thing. and this is, you know, serious problem. we have large corporations producing lots of greenhouse gases and, and they should be responsible for the impacts of causing the star. okay. we now know it's mean expose have as being the secret lobbying by huge fossil fuel companies to prevent ordinary people understanding the depth of the climate crisis down to the blinking is here for cop representing the united states. when he was here in the middle east, the other day it seems like he was urging more oil production inside the radio. he's saying come on, you're going to producing more oil inside your ab said no. originally so knack from britain, uh, presumably as well and do by he's on the record for saying we need to max out know, see fossil fuel drilling. it's a, it's unusual, this cop, isn't it? because now we have on the record statements as opposed to last time round from

these names. are a nation leaders explaining how they want more fossil fuel emissions? yes, so it seems contradictory to the whole purpose of this climate change caught that they're asking for more production of fossil fuels. uh, you know, when, where, you know, in serious need of all countries to reduce their alliance on fossil fuels, when not on track to making the power as gall, a 1.5 degrees celsius. and we all need to drastically reduce our allowance on fossil fuels. so it is a problem that they will of late is coming to the summit and not taking the issue seriously enough. i mean it's clear that it's useful to have a big party or a big meeting. i don't know what the emissions of golf 28. 0, but there wouldn't be any mention will there about evidence that the bible attacks the north stream pipeline supplying germany, resulting in the largest man made, maintain emission event in all human history. and now of course techs and l. n. g

fact in texas, it is now appearing on the shores of western europe since the last since comp 27. well i, i can't comment on that. no, she is sure. oil, the problem, if you all of a special or opportunity you can comment on north stream. i know we have to wait for the investigation. it's ongoing. isn't the point. so i know that it hasn't been, you know, a conclusive evidence of this. who could cause that, that explosion. so it's difficult for me to comment on that until is a proper investigation of that. yeah. but i mean, had a meeting like this, armina tree emissions even going to be talked about. according to the cost of all project $760000000.00 pentagon budget equates the $51000000.00 tons of c o. 2 more than most countries at the emissions from the united states. well, the military is of the world is larger than just the c o 2 emissions from russia. b,

the, is the military. going to be up for debate to the top, 28th or just don't really care about the secretive admissions that are clearly there and more important than uh, the ip is easy ever seems to understand. yes. well, i mean, it is a concern that the military across the glove is, is uh, creating significant greenhouse gas emissions. and as in discussions with some civil society organizations today, expressing concern about this actual issue of, you know, the emissions from the military across the glove having, you know, seemingly accountable to their mission. so this is a great concern. i mean, we can hear you signed a letter and opposing the policy of nato nations as regards the gaza, which the sole region and the whole global south is focused on the ledge,

gaza genocide. why is it that you uh, as part of your rebate, presumably about losing emissions of all these wall plains, from israel and the on by the u. k. u, as in the you nation bombing and killing thousands of children and gaza there at admissions and their human rights that have some sort of hypocrisy, also to not cool for a cease fire. well, also saying one's green and gold 28 this year or well i've, you know, i, i doing this on a lead to very early on in the, in the, the hostilities for us as ation on both sides. particularly because of the human rights abuses that both sides uh, you know, uh, penetrating in this, in this, of this war. so it's a, it's a serious concern. and of course, you know, and, and all the, uh, you know, the, the, was that we're seeing going on at the moment. there are

a lot of greenhouse gas emissions associated with this. and, and this is one of the, the consequences of war for us at a produces a lot of greenhouse gas emissions. and the military doesn't seem to be accountable for this job. i didn't sign a blank check for it. do you think you're and that's or they use a co sign means that's the reason why joe biden, after appearing in previous cops as well, that they've done up and do by this year. well, i, i kind of answer for why he's not sure. oh, not do you know, uh, but you know, it's certainly an issue. you know, that one of the biggest greenhouse gas produces in the. busy world is not represented by the head of state. do you have any idea why he didn't bother to donna? no, i, i had no idea why he decided not to turn on. i mean, clearly the whole international community against european union britain in the

united states supports a ceasefire and gaza. you know that the, even that to you and other special replica assigned claim that the civilians uh, were being uh, talking to the i think, i mean, israel said that they're not being targeted as well. you know, my, my concern was the human rights violations from both sides. you know, we, people have been killed on both sides, you know, in israel and 1000. and that was our concern that, you know, we were calling for suicide cessation of hostilities. so it's uh, you know, we think this is the ceasefire, right? if you're calling for a cx 5. yes. which is which are 5, both sides. yeah. which the united states absolutely has not called for, nor as any i have spain, an island in west and europe in the country. i mean, what do you make of bite and sending is energy,

oil and gas advisor to israel and meet the a that's genocide, aimless hochstein, while thousands of children were being slaughtered in gaza. he says, is the energy, i mean, i don't know whether that's a climate advise of these little island gas advisor full of a texas energy man to uh, to them at least to to is there a lot uh, is there an energy klein with aspect to gaza mike, as soon as it's a broader issue of climate change impacts globally and, and the amount of emissions that are being produced by industry across the globe. and i, i prefer not to sort of narrow it down to the guys the situation because that the, you know, they're much greater emissions occurring outside of that region. and so that's why i'm here to talk about the global problem of climate change and, and trying to get all countries to reduce that greenhouse gases. but clearly, if you're sending the mass of aircraft carriers into south china sea are sort of

sending billions of dollars worth of weapons into ukraine. you're sending billions of dollars a weapons to israel. i mean, safely their environmental concerns whilst we hear sweet woods prevent any blinking smells in dubai. yes, but you know, as i said, i mean, i would prefer not to just narrow it down to this issue because, you know, even before they said install hostilities crisis, we still have a numerous amount of emissions being a good by major economies across the globe. and this is my concern is, is you know, how to address this issue of the major economies across the globe. and that's, that includes china, russia, united states, united kingdom, european union, are all producing greenhouse gases that are, you know, a concern and, and these are on a basis. and we need to, you know,

pull in these emissions because we can see people across the crowd suffering as a consequence. we only have to look at the floods that are just occurred and says to uh, you know, the long drought, the people who lived in some, you know, been living in somalia and now suffering droughts lodge floods. you know, there's a common trend around the globe that we see these long periods of drap when people are dying as a consequence of climate change and, and then suffering floods. so this is a global concerned that i'm worried about and it's affecting people across the globe. if you're in special, have a general stop. use a small from you in special rapids on climate change in human rights after this break, the

focus on those funds. this case, the audit is still with me. so can you guys just send through the email as good which is

the is to use for mobile and see i guess a soft good. i used to be honest. can you just the the the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with you in special rapids on climate change and human rights talk to in frank. it's measure of what we were talking about, the militarism and the fact that it is not just militarism. obviously, that's

a the context of climate negotiations here in do by the comp 28. you did say that ukraine was complicating things. what, why was the conflict in ukraine complicating environmental measures as well? i'm not sure i've ever said that. i mean, clearly there is no issues and conflicts across the blood that uh you know, a serious issues and you know, their emotions associated with those. but there are a lot of other sources admissions as well, of course, of course. and i, i should actually ask you about recent trends in the what's happening in the world that was happening and 1227. now give me what have you made of scientific literature that says plants application to climate change is a reason for optimism and that the climate modeling was not expecting how quickly plans seem to be able to adapt to the woman climate and also new research. and that

most very kate, do you think some of the modeling will have to change and give us a few more years and the seemingly applicable applicable optic for costs being made last time as well i, i'm not convinced by that. i mean, that's certainly, you know, plants of growing quicker and absorbing more carbon dioxide, but to how long i can hold onto that carbon dioxide is an issue. and there's other research which suggests that because of the high temperatures, plants are aspiring more and producing more carbon dioxide so that there are certain serious issues do on that end, particularly, you know, the issue of the absorption of carbon dioxide in the oceans, which is causing the oceans to warm up and you know, we're seeing more so the weather event. so i don't think we're seeing any sort of lessening of the climate change issue. uh, it seems to be getting worse and was experiencing, you know,

more severe events. and in fact, just last month, it was the highest average temperature across the globe that has ever been recorded in history. and that's, that was, you know, on an average across the glove, 2 degrees above pre industrial level. so we've already, you know, so no, no, not in history, obviously. yeah, yeah. in human history. yes. you know, in recorded history since, since it's reco it's been yeah. for, i mean, this is always been a problem from those who doubted that the climate was changing until the ice coordinates. it wasn't that because if you just say, gosh, this was the authors here on record in terms of the history of the world. clearly it doesn't, doesn't actually meet mean that bunch well, i mean, in our records do go back quite alone. why? oh, they go back only like the tiny percentage of the,

the history of the of yes, but as far as you know, it is clear that you know, since the industrial revolution, but the amount of comm dockside has increased napa shifts, and global temperatures have increased quite dramatically, and this is unprecedented. well, obviously, well lead is west and europe in the united states don't share your pessimism as they see the ever increasing amounts of drilling for fossil fuels and exploitation of resources. and not only that, people who think like you do special robert to all are beaten up and arrested and give it ever longer sentences. what have you made given us special or a bunch of fully environment and for human rights? what is being happening say in britain to the just a boil, protest is getting incredibly long sentences for their activism. what is going on in western europe as regards people who are as concerned as you are about the environment? yes, it's like the right to the u. k government about this issue uh,

expressing my concern about the sentences level that these are climate change prior testers, you know, it affects you know. ready it set set to sort of chilling, right, you know, response that we're seeing a clamp down on the right to protest. and i was quite concerned about that. in fact, you know, right, the lizard, you know, 2 months ago to the u. k. government, i have not had a response, and this is quite disturbing that uh, you know, the, the right to protest against climate change is being clamped down on people's, you know, have the right to express concern about the future, particularly young people. you know, because there is a concern about the future of young people and that they should be had the right to protest. right? so as antonio gutierrez spells out issues very clearly that i can about past 3 by these young protest as in west and european capitals,

including london in the british government. no one from the british government, which is the next government has replied to you in special rapid here on the environment when you are expressing concerns about freedom of expression. this, this is the concern that this seems to be an issue that the u. k. government is ignoring the is expressions of concern and the ad and it's traveling that people dont have the right to protest and particularly around climate change because it is such a serious issue. maybe you can call or him here in here in dubai. but uh, do you expect that will actually, uh, that ominous sign of uh, clamp downs on freedom of expression. and those protesting for the environment is a sign of the times as these countries are going to be reverse, previous climate commitments. yeah, it's a, it's a wiring trend across the glove that we're seeing and clamped down on on people

expressing the right to to protest against inaction on climate change. and it is a wiring trends across the globe and your expect burgeoning environmental litigation to prevent democratically elected governments from legislating in effect for the environment and protecting the planets. well, i did a review of tyrants litigation, internet was my report to you in general assembly in october instead of looking at the trends. and i, i think there will be a growing amount of litigation against corporations from, from across the globe, full their inaction on the account, or the integration. sorry, and counter litigation by those same multi $1000000000.00 will break away this thing. what's called the slab suits, you know, with counter litigation is applied to people who are not protesting against climate

change direction and taking the litigation. so we're seeing also these calculated litigation issues as well as to what it would can be done given that they clearly have have the year off some parts of the nature nation main stream. so called media when it comes to the environment, they're going to litigate against democratically accountable governments trying to help the climates. i mean, then you can something be done to break these global energy companies because it's kind of what they want to submit. well, you know, i, i think, you know, they've just got to be held accountable and, and what we're seeing is where we're seeing litigation moved from, you know, of, you know, cases against governments to cases against corporations. and, you know, more recently we're seeing litigation against corporate boards,

and i think this is with, i'll start to get nervous if actually, board members are, you know, brought before thoughts. and hilda cannibals for the actions of the companies. and you know, the admissions and harm that they're doing. i mean, you've seen what's happening to whistle blowers and those trying to publish secret to memos within big us corporations. about the, the strategies of the these a multi $1000000000.00 outfits trying to prevent comp, $28.00 style changes. i mean a, it's getting worse, isn't it? still getting better or no? yeah, it's, it's, it is getting worse. and this is the problem where we're seeing this is a resistance by magic corporations to taking strong action. i mean, that has been moved by the bottom as administration to develop environmental and social governance rules and the european union of bringing those and that by the,

you know, potentially positive steps towards making corporations more accountable for their activities. but will this reminds to be saying whether they will promptly report on that what they. busy doing and what impacts to their action. so having you probably get a big mailbag older ready, but so people going right to you if they feel that human rights are threatened because of that concern with the issues raised a comp 28 in the corporations. they work anywhere in the world that yes and in fact uh yeah, my next report to the human rights council will be around in a corporate accountability and i put out a call for people to, to ride to my. right, to me to uh, yeah, express uh you know, give me evidence of where corporations are affecting their rods. you know, in the context of climate change. i know you made headlines in the philippines

about the law against the communists in the, in the philippines on your recent visit. lot of news amidst the golf 28 conference whilst of course gaza focuses the minds of all of this region given is really ministers at these rails just by using nuclear weapons and gaza. do you don't think the environmental threat now most pressing one is the threat of nuclear war? not the threat to have c o 2 in me. same or no, i yeah. well, obviously nuclear weapons is a, is a great start and it's been around for a long time. i think the greatest right is climate change and, and the lack of action of dealing with climate change because it's going to have a long term consequences. you know ecological and, and she gave him an impact. so will the poor face all the, all the challenges and the ritual have bunkers to live in and they're yours. and the boy will be told the recycling little bit more and you were in the philippines

. i mean, the pool or the philippines will have it even delford time, while new american for new american bases will be built at a norm as environmental cost as well. you know, it's not just us prices are being built in. are we saying military build ups or across the glove? so they, they, these are issue, you know, global issues. but you know, particularly the grice in the, you know, use of fossil fuels across the world is, is a serious concern. and we, we have to deal with those issues. some was in the philippines, you know, there was a serious concerns about the strategic minerals that are being developed for renewable energy technology. so these are like lithium kind of bolt and all these other, you know, what's called strategic minerals and, and that this is a concern that there are human rights implications from mining the so called strategic minerals. to make this sort of how you run your google energy economy.

and so what we're seeing is a sort of competition and on the bottom ministration and collaboration with the take government have sort of set up a strategic minerals initiative. and that's in competition with china to access these minerals. so we're seeing a sort of, you know, a gold rush, you know, for the strategic minerals and as a consequence, you know, a poor communities. i'm not getting a site, they're not. and you know, i've spoken with engages people's about this whole issue, a free prime phone consent on the land before these mining companies move in and, and destroy the lands ancestor lands your end semester. we're happy to jump to in for i thank you. i thank you. that's it for the show. golf 28 runs for another 2 weeks here in dubai. we'll be back with a brand new episode on saturday until then keep in touch by roll that social media . if it's not the sense that in your country and had to our channel going on,

the ground tv on rumbled, i'll come to watch new and old episodes of going underground. so you on test the release of russian states. never as tight as i'm sort of the most sense community not getting hold of all sun set up the speed, the one else holes. question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin machine, the state on the russians cruising and split the r t spoke neck, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube,

the payment services for the question, did you fix a request which is the, there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy. the error is the case for the med, most of the people. i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also of soon, this is the 3rd world lunacy re washington. as most of the funder line likes to say, we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deal. so just let me let me on. you have a very quick propaganda. you know a price here in new york. i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. some more questions, ask a better. the answer is will be the on

the we felt strongly as though we don't guys and we are also the southern part. it will be no less trends that off to reducing my child's northern gods, out to ruins. israel says it'll now focus attention on the south stuff despite having previously told kind of send you a heads up for that own safety. we have a very late since we're meeting back, so they come up even go south. it's a little fun because a lot of these are all the main highway clinic, 6 the different cities the, the script has also been on the whole the to close. the come makes it treat.