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hello and welcome to cross stock. were all things are considered. i'm peter level. kids was only seem to increase with each passing day. it's counter offensive was an utter failure. continued mass of western support is in doubt. zelinski is popularity is on the decline in the military, essentially has few ideas. how to proceed to is running out of options. the cross talking ukraine. i'm joined by my guess to me 3 lots caught us in montreal. he's a lawyer and a freelance journalist. also in montreal, we have michelle say more. he is a honorary professor of philosophy at the university of montreal and in paris we

cross the vitamin goldstein. he is the chairman of the department of slavic studies at brown university. our gentleman cross talk roles and the fact that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate, let's go to a vladimir in paris 1st. um, i'm titling this program. we seem collapse question mark here. so we have a number of articles coming out in the main stream media talking about um the popularity of zelinski or the lack there of how there is. he's having a pitched battle with his military and particularly with general losing and, and also the, the ever most important elements. and all of this is western aid, which will some of it will definitely come through, but not nearly as much as that they, they were all hoping. so just how unstable is the regime because of the money go? it's been, it's, it's, you know, it turn off the lights, it's over. vladimir as well. balls that is name is unstable because it is

basically it was arriving. brent made it on west themselves. but the website is absolutely key. uh and is that the narrative is sort of the just drawing it was like a very convenient narrative bed, a rush uh that garage the garage. uh do mcbride, do you agree? and. busy julie, a young green shoots. oh, you're more pressing new grain. well we see it's not it's, it's not democracy. it's not a booming economy. it's, it's a con sewage kid just may or may in uh, after the age of 60 and send that sends them to butcher e. uh, if they're not quite ready for that. the only thing that they will read it is to get a major whitman's ends ending in the front, the front. it's even this one is stopping. so we see the deals that have collapsed all the narrative. that zalinski is

a great leader who is going on with their rates and not just the grain, but with lead to the great or russia from it's for the garage and, and so on, so forth. so it gets much japanese say, and i think what is fussing is about the whole thing since the landscape was so much invested with these narrative of a, the dangers of the never give the danger to the country. it just means that he's in the, in the page and that's why we have all the contenders and all of the new. uh, i was told and it just, uh, i mean, yeah, i mean, it seems like the, the west was looking for a new sarah. good because of meeting time magazine, the economist, i mean, he can't get any more mainstream than that. and words like delusional is coming up and, and, and that a centrally paints, a picture of that zalinski is fighting a 2 front war against russia and his own generals. go ahead, michelle. uh yeah, well, uh, i believe that uh well i, i, i read the seymour hersh has paper. oh,

okay. i want to, i want to get to that. we'll go ahead. i was gonna mention have go ahead, jump right in and talk about it. go ahead. well, uh, i read the seymour hersh his paper in which he says that there are negotiations taking place between gallery and insurance above. and rather he is listening a new crime concerning a peace deal that might be a range between those 2. i'm convinced that there are such negotiations because uh, i, despite, uh, i think that the americans are desperate in finding a solution. they're way out of this conflict. but to exactly, for that reason, i'm not convinced that the americans are out of the picture. they are involved, i barely the best scenario for the americans would. i've been to continue the war beyond the a presidential elections. so with the hope that way

maybe uh the trainers would be winning. but now that we know that they are losing, it's going just to be terrible for biden's re election. so there must be a plan b. and i believe that that plan b is forcing negotiation for a peace deal right now. and this, the i, the position of the americans will be, well, that was a, an aggression or non provo, to aggression. we help to ukraine, and now they, i've decided all by themselves to reach a peace deal with the russians. and we respect that, that would be this plan beat that uh, hopefully in the mind the biden will help him. when do we know that the election? yeah, well i, i, it's dreadful to think what is in the mind of joe biden, but that's a topic for another program. dimitry i said, so you know,

michelle already brought up to see more hers piece, which i wanted to delve into, but we're already into it. so i, it's of an interesting piece. uh, i don't buy it. i think it's more of a trial balloon than anything else. to see what the reactions would be, because the russian military does not. it's not a free agent. okay. and i'm not really sure what that has to say about the training and military, though i would like to point out that solution is very much respected in russia that adds to this trial bloom kind of a narrative here. but you know, the whole point is that camp is running out of options here. i don't think the americans are really a band and ukraine. i just, i think they'll just keep it on life, support it before the election, dimitri well, they certainly don't want to see a full scale collapse because that would be a narrative that would be beyond the control of even the button intended striation in the corporate medium. united states that would, i think, revealed to the entire world at this. and this project was ill conceived from the,

from the outset. and that there is no way to deny that this has resulted in a strategic defeat for nato and for the vitamin ministration. so yes, i do agree that they're likely to keep it on life support. but the last several months of seeing a, a, not necessarily the lowest levels of support coming from the united states. but certainly relative to levels of support during the so called defensive, very, very low. there's a, a statement coming out of the white house warning. i believe it's coming from the congressional budget office that they're almost out of money. 97 percent of the funds have been spent. the new speaker of the house, who apparently has a history of voting against aid for ukraine or increased amounts of aid for ukraine, doesn't seem to be in any hurry to come up with more funds for this proxy war. so the situation is looking rather grim. i think that the, the, the most faithful sign for zelinski himself is that there's literally a beauty pageant going on for the uh, the, the, the successor,

consult zalinski at the moment. you have a lexi or a storage. yeah. cuz you know, to becoming increasingly assertive in his criticisms of the ways lensky is handled it. valerie clips go the mirror. keith, i just gave an interview in which he effectively cited with zillow's needs. the allusion is, is now openly stating that this war effort was, is a stalemate, which is uh, i think, fair say a euphemism. in fact, uh, the ukrainian military is on the verge of collapse, as far as many of us can tell. so it seems to me that the lensky is besieged on all sides, and that the greater threat to his survival at this moment is not russia but his internal enemies. yeah. well, a lot of me it's very interesting is it is uh, i think the last time we spoke, which was a while ago that we mentioned that eventually they'll be the blame game. who's to blame? okay, was it, you know, the ukrainians, not following advice from nato nato supporting the wrong person? i mean, it is, this essentially tells us a bit as it were in the,

in game i the end game can last while, but we are there, vladimir. that's that's, that's the rule and that's why your. busy your game is over a trial balloon is a very correct one. everybody now is thinking and looking for exit strategy. everybody wants to cover the backside. we have united stage with the directions and you know, and all this the democrats are in the because they can that, is it all good money after bad money? no and dizzy problem because it will capitalize on that. they cannot stop just support you need. uh, without does not say anything happening. so they are probably thinking of some kind of i'm starting to do and since uh, a zalinski is connected with web on a waiting list succeeding, you know, some of the, usually the fall for him. i things i usually use it possible i'm starting to do because besides the united states and nato parisha,

what leaders in key cab abreast of the, from that nationally violent sides remeasured is centered around the west of the brain, right. and the, even the numbers, they are not the be in terms of the violence and i search and they can do it. so i think people, i got a storage, they might have bills, intellectuals in the game, key of but these guys, you know, up to off. so the only person to whom, who somehow inconvenienced them that we can make do with their as a some top general. so in that sense, i believe that's illusion. that might be the latter may already. so gotten mixed and goes to china type thing. is that what you're saying? right? yes. okay. i might be able to just go back to michelle in montreal it's, it's very interesting because it gets if you have a change of a president in ukraine, then you can rationalize that, you know, he was the wrong guy. he was good at war, but not ending it. he couldn't win it. and that kind of ships the narrative to the advantage of the west. well, we did all we could, michelle. yeah. well, um perhaps,

um, uh, uh, to uh, fast in my conclusion, but uh, it seems to me that the problem uh, with the american mission and ministration is that, is revealed by the implication of you, us a support for israel that this month at this time. they have a hand corner you rent approach, and i think that the, the, the biggest mistake made by the americans was to interpret russian restraint as a weakness. uh, uh, before 2014 rush, i simply repeated, it's a position to nato expansion. after 2014, they were favorable to the men's cook cards before the war in december, 2021. they wanted to negotiate on the basis of the treat t,

concerning european security. immediately after the beginning of this special military author opperation in april 2022, they were just about to arrive to a piece deal with the ukraine. was at each moment in time in the escalation of the conflict. but things were interpreted by the west as a weakness on the part of russia, and that was their biggest mistake. and i think these kind of things will be revealed in the box. i have to jump in here. we're gonna have to go to a hard break that a little after that hard break. we'll continue our discussion on. you can stay with archie. the

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okay. it's good to, it's go to dimitry in montreal at the very end of the, of our, our discussion before we went to the break. and we, michelle was talking about miss miss construing us will called russian weakness. i think it's a fascinating point, and i think it really hits the mark because there's been a fundamental, a misunderstanding of brush all through this. okay. every step of the way. um, old stereotypes, a south of south, what would they reveal? their self delusions about russia. but you know, all of this discussion of, we know what, you know, going back to the hearse. the issue is that, you know, russia will accept this for this, and you know, they're always drawing the board and assuming what russia wants and what it will accept. and again, they're making that fundamental mistake. roger will decide what it wants when it wants, and it has nothing to do with the, the, what the conversations going on in, in the economist or time magazine, dimitri, or yeah,

but one thing i want to say about the seymour hersh, i, by the way, i completely agree that there was a complete misinterpretation of russia. there has been there's, this is a profound problem within the foreign policy elite of the united states. and the west generally is that they just don't understand the non western world, the barely understand the world in the world level in the northern western little this problem extends throughout the west in the foreign policy to lead. it extends to not only rush, it extends to china, other parts of the non western world. and we've seen this in dramatic fashion now, but they also have over estimate of the capacity of the west to build the economic capacity of the west to impose its will upon countries like russia, which has a much larger economy than we're told on a purchasing power parity basis, for example, it has a, it now has a, an economy larger than the size of germany's on a nominal g d p. p basis, which is basically a meaningless, manipulative figure. it has a much smaller economy in this type of misconception of the right, the economy,

economic strength of the united states is very emblematic of the foreign policy ignorance in the, in, in the west. but i want to say one thing about the seymour hersh piece, which i found rather fascinating. the suggestion that the russian government would accept a needle membership for what remains of ukraine on condition that the west not put the nato not station forces or offensive military weapons on ukrainian territory. initially i thought that this was preposterous because it's now been admitted by the west. and it was clear from the outset to those of us who have any objectivity, that nato was a core issue for the russian government. right. but it occurred to me that this is actually more plausible than might seem on its face. because i think the russian government may understand that the united states would have no interest whatsoever in natal membership or ukraine if it was deprived of the ability to place its forces and its offensive military weapons on russian soil. that was the whole point of needle membership for ukraine, who was never about protecting ukraine with an article 5 guarantees under the

needle treaty. if it can't put their forces there and threatened russia and contain russia, then why would the united states want to take on the burden of potentially having to come to ukraine's defense in the event of a flare up and military hostilities between russia and ukraine? the whole point was to threaten russia. so i think that this actually, if it's true that this is on the table needle membership without the ability to put nato forces on ukrainian soil. i think it may be a clever play by the russian government, because i don't think that by demonstration would accept that at the end of the day . and you'd end up with a, you know, the nato at all. yeah. but vladimir, 80, any, any part of ukraine in nato? it, assuming that net hershey is reporting is correct. well, it would come under article 5. and what would stop a local elite and ukraine from starting a conflict with russia, which would pull in the rest of nato? i, i, i don't me, i don't understand that. that's a trip wire. that russia would never accept in nato. foolishly should not accept.

because when everything is said and done, the russians in the ukrainians are not going to sit down and shake hands. maybe for generations. vladimir, well, it has to be c evans. it has to be calculated to be seen about what emerges from all our discussions included. would meet the in, michelle said is that very serious uh right. sequins as opposed miscalculations on the bicycle, the waste beads and nature. busy originally, rash of these, all or russian capabilities, beach state department who consistently makes mistakes. a, the economic, you know, your ministry. they view that there are several options. assumptions even happen. they view the risers, one or human habits. michelle mentioned the israel situation, i just recently read out of j. sullivan was saying, ready to try? i'm going to leave and he's like if you will,

they cleaned the man and he was there. he said st. amberly. oh, that is not a big deal in the guys and nothing was happening. so they basically don't know maintenance things. they have political appointees, they appointed for various reasons, but not for the reasons of their expertise and then knowledge. i go to slide. busy confidence as i see people with my former students, they have friends who work in state department and they tried to tell me i go to as a frequent the see what's going on and they're telling me russia is co ops and there is no trains of the bills, but as you know, i said, what are you talking about? you know, i, you know, somebody was teaching, you know, no, no whatever data, what kind of data they get, what it is. but this is, these isn't that there's a talk people sitting in the top offices on the 7th floor or. busy or the city and state department, whether it's, you know, a new orleans and others, as i say, do they have political appointees and close it with leaks. they will have to find the way to it just sort of some help protect democratic party. and it's a connection with a c, a with

a department and seniors of mistakes made the mistake and circular which where they are, all right. but the bladder marriage lied to me all, all of this can be easily exp, lane. it's just a good grist. it's a good grip beverage. it, it, it, and tracks money. you know, they allocate money for all these types of thing here that, that, that is the purpose of it it's, it's a money laundering operation from what i can see. so when, when the money dries up, i mean, everyone's got us in the ukraine. they're going to start say, well, who took all of the money, then they're going to have their own problems among themselves here. um, michelle, one of the interesting things is, i think people tend to forget, is that russia had proposals to avoid this conflict in december. right. before the february of and i see no reason why they're not gonna go back to them. okay. after everything has been said and done, we've already given you a proposal. let's sit down and talk about it. you stopped at it,

but it's still meaningful to us. and when you think about it, it is a to germane articles. go ahead, michelle. yeah, well, it would be losing face for uh, the americans. and then the way they stood there is anything serious said the proposal to recognize the ukraine as part of nato is with the assembly simply a symbolic gesture. it's a dog that only would not bite, but that would not even bark. uh, so maybe they are leaving them ways to uh, so that they don't lose face. uh, but uh, more generally again, i really, i want to emphasize that the situation is israel and palestine at this moment is quite revealing. all the demonstration, all over the world are really revealing to the public that the americans are involved everywhere in yemen and the china sea in palestine. they are in the

rock. they are in syria and they are also in ukraine and every, all their involvement in ukraine, which was perceived the here in north america in the west, in general. something very noble is a crumbling right now. we're realizing that what the us are doing all over the world is not to, to do, to come to the rescue to widows and orphans as to where it's instead that wherever they pass, they are leaving be, i'm more our friends and widow which you know. so i did, there is a, a, a piece, the core seller, which i know wellness of the population right now that the us are involved in, to criminal uh, with gestures all over the world. yeah. big michelle, you know, you're absolutely right. we can over the last few administrations,

can they point to one foreign policy success? just one. yeah, this one. yeah. you can, you can. it's really interesting because all of us have been remembering the legacy of henry kissinger. what foreign policy success has been since henry kissinger. not that i'm saying he had a lot of success is there. let me for you. let me go to you. we've seen the, the passion come out on the streets all over the world because of the what's going on and gaza and, and, but we were there is a big debate about funding it. that's in that is a, the money we'll get to is, are all i have no worries about that for them. it shouldn't be, it should be leverage to stop the killing. but dimitry, where all the protests around the world, and want demanding the funding of the war and ukraine. you know, of any, i don't know, one where people are protesting saying more money for ukraine. my point is, dimitri, this has always been in a meet agenda. this is an elite project, dimitri absolutely. i the, the entire narrative has evaporated. from that,

i mean, for 18 months, 18 months, there was obsessive discussion in the foreign policy elite and the governor at the governmental level, at the level of the pen to talk or see in the west. you know, the people who are normally relied upon as being foreign policy experts that saving ukraine, the so called democracy of ukraine, was the highest priority and had to take precedence over everything else. if i had a dollar for every time justin to deal with the canadian prime minister said as long as it takes in respect to view create, that'd be richer than bill gates. and all of a sudden the discussion has evaporated. there's no talk whatsoever, almost no mention whatsoever. oh, well, what demetrius since i have you here? i mean it is the, is a part and parcel of the nazi problem in canada is a part of it as well? i mean, i, i always look for the opportunity, say, nazi occupied canada, cuz i like the way it rolls off my tongue. go ahead, dmitri, i guess the, you know,

the double a standing ovation for a board member of the watson s s, and the canadian parliament has to stand is one of the most disgraceful moments to rich. and in a way, from a political perspective, it's tragic, of course, what's happening in israel and palestine, but from a political perspective, it saved the canadian government because the conversation shifted almost immediately to what's happening there. but that was really, it wasn't simply symbolic. it is, uh, it was the latest scandal in a long line of canadian government support for far, right. the elements within canadian side society and, and ukraine and elsewhere, frankly. and now all of this is being buried under the rug. and what we're talking about is israel and palestine because nobody wants to come to terms and the western politically with the disaster they have created and ukraine. and for all i, i, we're, we're out of time gentlemen. but all i can say is the canadian people deserve so much better than they have from this man. okay. i always take an opportunity to

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you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching, but again, you probably don't want to watch it because it might just change the way you the, the colors of the russian flag in the sky. it's about the u a. e, as a lot of it food and receives a very warm welcome me during a visit to the united arab emirates on his 1st stop with them, at least as is so cool to isolation, is still on the lips of western politicians. now putting heads for saudi arabia, the palestinian authority calls on the united nations to stop the relentless attacks on gaza saying israel's actions are organized terrorism. under the constant bombardment, some civilians are buried in rubble, foot gains just waiting to be rest. the pipes spent 4 days,