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teams, we'd need you, russian need you. thank you very much. i won't hide it. i've had different thoughts at different times, but you're right now. now is the time to make decisions. i will run for the post of president of the russian federation, or we're going to take a brief pause here on how to international. we will be back very soon with more of your world has the the hello and welcome to cross ok. we're all things are considered. i'm peter level, the slaughter and suffering and god's it continue. unabated is real, appears not only determined to eliminate the robots, but the palestinians, living and gaza as well. this is all the possible with the blessing of the united
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states. this murderous affair is being under written by joe biden, in the name of the american people, the cross up in palestine. i'm joined by my guess, lionel and new york. he's a legal and media analyst in toronto. we have do the thoughts. she is a member of independent jewish voices, canada, and be real. we cross who loves her tom. she is a man at expert, an independent war reporter or across top roles in effect, that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate line and let me go to you 1st here. i want to give you a quote, and i'd like your reaction. we have a retired id of general named. it's a brick to quote all of our missiles, the ammunition, the precision, guided bombs, all of the planes, and bombs. it's all from the us. the minute they turn off the tap,
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you can't keep fighting. you have no capability. everyone understands that it cannot fight this war without the united states. so this is america's war and it's a choice lineup. you could have taken that same quote, peter, and apply the word ukraine to could have been from zalinski. it could have been, and here's the best part, americans maintain this, this almost this perpetual ambulatory confusion, this detachment we are unable to fight any wars here. number one, we are as in the most powerless of becca nomic times, we have cities that are actually being clabbered by crime. in my city of new york, we're coming back on police and fire to handle people from other countries. and yet, while this is going on, the american public as a and the election is coming for nobody seems to be even remotely involved in this . because peter, i think there's something weird that's almost organic. we have this almost patel or
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obeisance. pavlovian believe that all wars are good and that if we are involved in a war, it is ipso facto correct and noble. and we have to disabuse ourselves and disconnect ourselves of this. i don't think the american public has any idea of the question is, where are we getting the money? what is the end the game and is collin palmer said, if you break it, you own it. well, the world's going to be broken. who's gonna own it? who's going to put it back together again? now, what are the course? well, we're in recent public opinion show up also that the um, the majority, in some cases, super majorities want to cease permanent ceasefire in gaza though the leads act otherwise, like they did with you, create a to defy if i can go to you. i mean, i'm sure you're well aware unfortunately, that the us congress, not the smartest people in the room passed a resolution that um, but essentially criminalizes being
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a anti zionist with being anti semitic. now do this, i would assume that you are not the self hating too. i would assume that you are not anti semitic, but they're passing these kinds of resolutions in your name and i'm an american citizen. they're doing it in mining lionel as an american citizen. they're doing it in his name, judith? yes, i'm, i'm speaking for myself. what i'll do. i'm also a member of independent jewish choices. um, but i, when i, i think to, in some around is to blame the public thing. people, you know, it's, it's particular particular groups, particular interest and so on, you know, in the united states and our countries in terms of anti semitism and a sizing is a, you know, it's, it's an absurd allegation. um, you know, it criticizing israel and the people, the jewish citizens,
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israel is very factual. you know, 95 percent 90 to 95 percent of his release of approved air freely you know, horrible massacre and the sea to gaza. you know, that i think is 55 awful massacres, you know, involving many beaches of international law, the use of, of illegal weapons and so on the destruction of the house interest structure. so this is a different from anti semitic. the sholpes and images of, of the jewish people, the people also amenable and irony, is that people like or but the new president of the ocean tina. this of christians, zionist um, hagi, raced by
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a is really by nothing novel. and by um you know, uh jewish the uh, the people who are, who are defending this resolution. ready you know, they're the ones who are using the 19 and holocaust images. yeah. the jewish people. yeah. so in would, it's very upset into zionism. i deal as here. so, and, and others have, you know, idolized a different kind of jewish person. they themselves have these antisemitic images and they wanted to create, you know, um, a new jew who's modeled on the american cowboy and on crushing the aristocrats. so the whole thing is very, you know, a historical, oh, yeah, it's well and it's very dangerous too because it makes it, makes people act in the worst possible way. i'd like to point out to everyone in the united states. you can criticize the u. s. government,
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you can criticize other states in the union, but now you can criticize a foreign country. how did we get here? let me go to you and be route on the west is likes the band, the about the word genocide, and it's always against their foes, their adversaries. and it's always in my mind, it's an exaggeration almost all the time. but it's almost kind of foreboding to use the word genocide. now if this isn't a genocide that's being played out in golf, so then what is a genocide? can you explain that to our viewers? that i have to explain. one thing i've lived under the occupation for almost most of my life and the desk of one person is one to many. the best of done this of 100 . that the death of 1000? no. if we'd crossing the $15000.00 mark, when are they going to call it a genocide? it's a genocide. this is it, it's not the genocide, it's a hold of course. and if they don't want to call it the genocide, basically then we shouldn't be calling any of the month because what happens to all
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the city of genocide or holocaust. so the idea of when you have over 40000 injured people and over 15000, that's mostly women and children. that's a genocide. and it's a shame on the west and was not the basically a good nice that that's such because i've been biased towards, is there is they are giving as we and community. they had think it's right above the international know and continued to commit to murder against innocent children, women as early as man. but a seniors are natives, a father style, and because they are defending the rights and lives of human beings. after basically being living for almost a decades and slaves by that is read is not allowed to be. it's not the love to travel, not allowed to move. i think he's created then basically uh what whatever happens to them according to the west is nothing because because of the name of this is not acceptable. well, what light or what has happened to international humanitarian law? what state no state in the west can ever invoke it again, because it is become
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a no in void. there is no such thing that i mean, because you cannot have international humanitarian law with an exception. you can do it that way. then all of the, then all of it's void. my know, you know, peter, i'm a lawyer by profession. that's why i'm asking you, that's why i'm asking you, yes, yes and, and i am, i, i, i tend to lean always towards parsing and articulating the definition. then we get into this kind of a socratic, what about this and that i've never seen anybody or any other situation where it is clear where, where is i is either a part tiger or ethnic cleansing board or whatever you want to call it. see. yeah, and it, all of these words are applied and we did it to americans the vietnam we, we have no problem with this for some reason. when it comes to this particular instance, all goes out the window. we say, well, i don't know if this is a part tied technically. when you hear nelson mandela, who i think knows
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a little bit more about it, use the term you get well, you know, he did. that was, and then, you know, one of the things to, i must say this, this notion of scientism. and this idea of america is a predictor say, well, why don't we just, why do we just have people just leave? what do we just have people just leave it with a you, you know, your utah is available. why don't we just leave? i loved the fact that we think humans are chess pieces that we can move if. in fact, years ago. i never forget this. whenever the the notion of zionism 1st happened, there were a lot of americans who are closeted anti semite to say this site, and there's the mr. roofing dead ahmad a year go. but they pretended they pretended that just we're with you, that we have the eschatological christians who also hide behind somebody. there really isn't some a connection with the land per se. so we have all of these cryptic kind of a camouflaged people pars the words in order to fit the narrative they want. i
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still say like we, we said before, if i remove the term israel, palestine, i put party in the 1st board party. the 2nd part you wouldn't be able to handle, you will be a, have a much easier time addressing this. but when you put the identities of these countries and it changes everything completely, you know, you know, judith, what's really sickening for it to watch all of this here is that we have the netanyahu government, we've, you know, there been leak documents about how they want to displace, push the palestinians of gaza into the cyanide and countries in the air world don't want to participate in essentially what would be a genocide, certainly ethnic cleansing students. this is just to clarify something about the genocide part. i think it's very clear in the, even before the holocaust, the intention was to by design, this was to read to pass by the palestinians. if you're on pub
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paid documents this the, then the valet plan before it was put in place the, even before the holocaust, i think there's the problem with of course the you know, the idea is that everybody can be expelled, which would be to, you know, to the sign i, that's the last thing i read to you or, you know, that would be the, the responsibility of egypt to take in all these refugees. um, you know, if, if genocide by and by the understanding the sense of the word not parsing it out is done so much by the you know, a highly legalized jew to, to, to the, sorry, choosing i have to jump in here. we have to go to a hard break and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on palestine. stay with our team
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war and the possibility of products and must have less than a concept. less will probably that's up to my minimum is what is the school the state in the polls. and i'm going to assume that this for my own way, this the football show right on the conflict of interest to assume because of the issue of the the you pretty much the this the
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welcome back to across software. all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle to mind you were discussing the events unfolding in palestine. the okay, let's go back to toronto, judith, i'm sorry i had to interrupt. you could please continue with your comments. oh, okay. now i was, uh, i think that the problems are both complicated in a sense, but also very simple. you know, i think it's very clear israel's intent to, you know, to eliminate palestinians. and a lot of the parsing around the genocide law has to do with with is there's an intent and who is the the disaster. so who is the intent articulated by you know, um, everything you know on and off and jewish disclose goes back to the model of the
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holocaust. and in fact, israel was reluctant to recognize any other genocide. that's right other than their own. so, you know, in the u. n has been really, i don't really feel i have left us around this that so many things that it's highlighted by the response to, you know, to this, that, you know, good parish is, is so incompetent. i think that the whole structure, the you in the security council and so on the, you know, going back to always, the mass occurs and so on. in, in israel, in garza, you know, the, you and you know, often declares it's almost a humanitarian disaster. it's almost is, it could be, you know, it is the same thing with the, you know, sort of ation of people around the world, you know, could be a disaster. so, you know, the color, surf, i sat,
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the others you know is, is really for, you know, so glaring with respect to this cause, you know, this current, horrible, you know, atrocity well, but what it gets to this, i mean it, and number one, it shocks the conscience and then if you just watch, then you're, you're part of the problem and i think that's what so many of us feel watching this feeling powerless because our leaders are blinded by new liberal ideology and historical prejudices. and why don't i get a being for political gain, all of the short sighted things when we're losing our human, we are collectively losing our humanity by watching this here, let me go back to you and, and be rude. one of the things, it's really quite surprising this time round is that is rarely hasbro has not worked very well. they've been caught a deceiving people lying people, you know,
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all of their evidence of this and that we have this latest weapon, ization of rape without any evidence whatsoever. i mean, they are going to great lengths to change the topic and the israel is the victim. go ahead and be room of israel is the only case as an entity, the police, the victim for getting somebody. so basically they think that all of a victim while they are getting the victim. and um, i am very happy to actually to see the collective consciousness around the world and going, shifts around the world. people are taking to twit, there's the social media to fight that this propaganda. nobody buys is really prefer guns anymore. and the boss is there, i'd have to stick to one that says, and then we'll ship through mainstream media. social media wasn't that strong, but now with the nation's social media like this, can you change everybody to fonts to the you your tablet? so whenever you go through your watches,
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people are not opening their minds. i'm here a week to such life. and most of the slides are so smart grants without any evidence. you put me in the heart of the 2nd one point or another. i also want to thank good luck to hard work by the only people across the world, but also reporters across the world with the time to actually box those for me, i got the notice and it was so easy to do it. i'm, i'm one of those people and i saw that's very, very weird. this rate is art of just throwing anything i need to identify and they hoping that it's 6 and everything is just one of the parts. yeah, i've been, i've been watching the evidence, quoting quote here, and it's so easily debunked, i mean very easily and very quickly debunk to pay off a picture of a rape victim. and then a report or an investigative person said, now that's a picture from curtis san. okay, that's from the current. that's what curtis picture from a year ago, 2 years ago. that's not today. and it was just the bunk. and these people that did
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this, they print this and send it out on social media as evidence. they're not even ashamed of themselves. they say thank you for your, for your interest. i mean it's, it's shameless. what's going on or lot litle. is there anything that's going to reverse the bye? didn't ministration is my the 1st quote i read here from the retired id of general . yeah, it's a break. i mean, he says it all here. i mean, so the balls and in vitamins corner here, but he doesn't seem to have any inkling to change course whatsoever. is it politics? is it heidi ology, is it printed as why it is a wealth? first? i don't want to jump on the binding bandwagon. peter let, let's just read now there is the byron power you had to hold people account change our go ahead. so i understand that respond the superior. you know, he has to take a blame for this, but, but he, he, he's not really, i don't know who, who's pulling his strings. i gotta say one thing about this, you know,
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marshall mcluhan had this great line. what time they said the little lights are hard to keep under wraps, but big lies are easy based on your income, julie, the greater the worst z if i were to say for example, that in egypt there were right now there is a group of people who is involved in a satanic image section in animal sacrifice. people would say, oh my god, the the horrors. what basically forage there believe not cause question. remember the woman who said though she testified among other people how she saw people during the rapport pull babies. how to make it beta and it was so horrible. yeah. for you to even question it. when ever you question something that is so horrible. this is when you should be even more scrupulous because once and here's the thing, once you are caught in a lie, whatever it is, this is a real life for international politics. you are forever changed and nobody believes you anymore. so the course you right now is peter, here as, as we are $300.00 or something days until the election. the 0 there seems to be
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this, the sleep walking on the part of the, of the democratic party. they don't really know because let me just say something very quickly, the people, everything has changed. we have a very serious yours contingent in this country that we're, that represented historically, a pretty solid liberal base story which now citing joining sides with the hard core . and usually these we air quote, right wing a people and you have a complete switch or we're changing a partners. so i do not believe the democrats in particular have the, the political where with all to be able to play you this for the chess a to make sure that their message comports with whoever is going to be making the decision in 2024. so just hold your breath and watch. yeah, well i don't understand why it's just hard to say killing people is wrong funding people that kill people is wrong and you can't always do it in my name. this is not complicated stuff, folks. judith, you know,
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there's going back to the issue of zionism and anti semitism. what, what is that? what is attractive in the west about zine is and because all through my life i've been around jews and most of them just say i don't have anything to do with that. that's not judaism, that's not my face. and they are really insulted when people think, but all dues are design is well, i yeah, i think that you're, you're right. you know, this is a large obviously, you know, many jewish people are utterly appalled. just like the, i think the majority of people, you know, by all the demonstrations all over the world are already appalled. you know, it's hard to, it's hard to understand the, the individual thinking life is, you know, this group kinds of dynamics put in terms of people, you know,
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who in any way can don't. the other cool, teen said is the good to it is. this is sadism, you know, telling babies in incubators is so total, you know, it's like a, it's like worse than the end of this. and there's so many horrible wars of atrocities. but this is, it seems to me, the very worst manifestation of cruelty this, perpetrated without any hesitation, without any kind of call, no moral conflicts. so, you know, i'm coming back to you, you mention new products. so i think that that's, you know, in terms of who's behind all the power, you know, that there's the political ideological purposes. many ties between israel
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and the most autocratic governments all over the world are, has been for a long time, you know, including certainly the united states. so the raving and so on. you know that there's a very, very extensive military, a connection, like, you know, in terms of manufacturing weapons components. you know, the use of surveillance. the use of is a police tactics, you know, in the united states, india and so on. so you know that the, there's an independent economy town in israel, that's right, dependent on weapons. and this is already connected with the u. s. canadian, german and so one weapons the home weapons. well, a j judith even use even is really weapons has gone into the hands of neo nazis and
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ukraine is very well documented there. you know, let's go back to, let's go back to be with layla. you know, you, you talked about the change of consciousness. i think that could be if there's any possibility of a silver lining here. when i saw american jews take over a central station and the train station in new york, you know, thousands of them wearing black shared saying not in my name, not again. they gave, they brought a tear to my eye because it really showed that there is a consciousness out there and people will not be a little bit. they're not, they're not going to be used as objects. ok, and there is a consciousness that something terribly wrong is going on and i hope people pay for the consequences. go ahead and be route as well as you know, you can live to some of the people all the time. you can like to all of the people some of the time, but you can apply to all of the people all the time. and people across the world are starting, as i said to a week to this,
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this like an employee by the is radius. and the jews across the world as well. those sort of fuels to follow the genocide, the mindset of desire basically are finally coming out and they do have a voice. no, they do have a for this story to, for, for the most reach, which is social media and people supporting them come across the worth. nothing. my name finally. and this is what gave them strength of the collective conscious. as you said, that goes to work. that actually is helping them go up. and so you know that my name as well as human beings across the world are starving. but if the thing is based on humanity, i'm nothing else. but i also want to to point one thing is, which is i said, i'm sorry i have to jump in here. we've run out of time. absolutely fascinating, discussion and very humanistic. i must say, i want to think my guess in new york, around 2 and in bay roads. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our to see you next time. remember across the top of the,
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the japanese occupied on z and states the real massacre. for 6 weeks. the invaders exterminated the civilian population. they carried out mass executions, rates, women, and were engaged, been merciless robbery. ruthless competition of 2 officers of the imperial army. the my guide and su yoshi no doubt gained particular notoriety. they competed with each other as to who would be the fastest to kill $100.00 chinese with us. or this monstrous competition was widely reported in the japanese press. to the nuns, inc massacre claims the lives of about 300000 people and became one of the largest crimes against humanity in the world history. after world war 2, manufactures advance of the address of the phase trial. however, the commander of the japanese army in the non seeing operation freezes, yasu e to a socket,
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was able to escape the responsibility due to the interference of the american administration. the now is the time to meet the decision to run for the post of president of the russian federation. it is breaking news as our hero and also your international platinum approach and contriving he will be running for reelection in 2024. if successful it would be his good consecutive to the best russian president and the 5th overall, the, the killed and wounded in that is really a type one, a residential building near the palestine red prison society headquarters bases and gaza con, you have many of the devastation of despair and ga, so we bring you the cold storage of civilians with us special report human shields
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