solution prohibitions, looking for a compromise solution republican senator orville plot, who is one of the most powerful in washington at the time suggested an amendment that would set the conditions for the us military's withdrawal from cuba. those conditions including a pledge of loyalty to the us. but limited to was right to make treaties and trade with other nations and established the lease of what is now the guantanamo base. the government of cuba consents that the united states might exercise their right to intervene for the preservation of cuban independence. the maintenance of the government, adequate for the production of life, property, and individual liberty. this was the beginning of a redefinition of the monroe doctrine, that instead of condemning european intervention is up in the america, saki justified us intervention in the name of inside colonialism and self determination. even though it was anything but the plot amendment was the direct result of the more renowned monroe doctrine,

arguing that the people of cuba would benefit from being under the control of the u . s. but this claim was highly criticized in latin america. was the president of mexico launching a counter doctrine, calling for sovereignty and non intervention in another nation's internal affairs. however, that didn't stop then president theodore roosevelt from existing policies of the monroe doctrine continued to have a strangle hold on us foreign policy. chronic wrongdoing or an impotence which results in a general loosening of the ties of civilized society main america as elsewhere, ultimately required intervention by some civilized nation in the western hemisphere . the appearance of the united states of the monroe doctrine may force the united states. however reluctantly, in flagrant cases of such wrong, doing or impotence to exercise and international police power. and yet, here we are nearly 102 many years softer roosevelt's updated version of the monroe

doctrine. as we can say, i looking at us foreign policy in latin america that the original claim by james, when rhodes, delivering through in the mines is the political, we in washington. that's all for now. do you be shots, checkouts all websites, all calm for all of the lights is breaking news and updates. i'm will see you arrived back here at the top down the my mouse sooner than see and welcome back to going underground broadcasting all around the world from the middle east is u. k, u s. u armed israel is continued the killing and gaza, the westbank lebanon, and syria, with abiding administration, declaring no red lines for his royal. what can stop thousands more from being

killed? joining me to someone who has been in the israeli government as the justice minister and deputy foreign minister, former us back peace plan negotiator and an architect to the 1993. also, of course you'll see bailey and joins me from tel aviv. thanks so much. you'll see for coming on the violence has been continuing for a weeks. of course. i mean, how many more people do you think joined, come us for every bomb dropped on gaza. and do you think it's an issue that concerns me is riley, in effect coalition government as well. i don't know about the well distance and then with all due respect today, as you know me for a few years time, it's thorn supposition produced a government. i hope that after the world there, we lay there will end the day and beverly, this is what really happened, but these, you asked me about a joining come mazda as a result of the day of the conflict. now, a, i'm sure that you are right. i mean,

usually in such a situation you see the people identifying a weekday. we decide sometimes he did the suit, the side. sometimes it is one side. but you cannot be a reason to allow how much to remain the government in gaza. and that is the main point. i mean, they ensure that it was sold and when the end of del governing garza, because they are doing also things to that is, so is it to this is surrounding police, right? and to the arab countries. we sometimes a shy to say openly, but i'm sure that you know, we, the entire schools knowing because i'm getting very many phone calls for people from the union since on may others in the region. know who say don't give up, don't give up. you all fighting for all of us. so a to the mission is to just destroy the present demise leadership because if indeed

it is an issue that you agree with and so forth from us is a body's surgeon getting the west bank full of the line. yeah, so it's increasing the normally we, we that, i mean we did call and see to us and i can understand that you to me is that but not for long. i mean, if people see that this guys uh, is under a normal, a rule or not a, but i know these is zillow's. they're really just an intern. i'm and i'm ended surging in the west bank. not only i know i reaction joy can you between booking july? i'm sure because they are watching tv and seeing what is happening to their budgeting and i can understand it. but i don't think that it will go full long because they the ones they see this day, the situation. any guys that have to do well, if there would be interest, be see if it would be the b o, o and the will. they keep it, they, they, they the leadership in, in guys,

hopefully ne, rarely sense a identity duration. we change though, and that we understand that what was done mean guys, that was a must. of course there is a, a, a list or a full i had involved people in guys which is really very popular my deep. but please give me a, not the solution for the current, a situation after october, the 7th. when we know what they can do, and we know that they can retail, and we know that it is a must likely to icy seen the bus. to put an end to end situation will by 8, the 8 is zillow. it's like them. i'll governing an area i want to give their own devices in a moment, but to us for solution daily. the solution that's argued for by the u. a. russia, china, that is an immediate cease fire and some kind of negotiations in the neutral country

that's not directly involved in the conflict. that's the solution. as the, as all was accept save world war 2, and then you'll do what is it before is with this will usually you'll have 2 sides which are, it will end, but they are ready to negotiate a behind the scenes publicly for what the eval. and usually people like by says, all you all sense old sales, well this is the best solution, the compromise between them every day does a win win. you either will very said, but now sit together, make peace between yourselves. and that's the end of the story. or the only problem is how mazda is not to do. i mean, i wanted to talk to people, folks, i'm a smoke, no indian the last use. for them people like me. oh, the worst enemies. because they don't want to,

i like to have been solution. they don't want to have these wireless around, they don't want to have that use it. yes i to have on us it accepted the 90 and 67 the board is and what is behind the literally you know, this is very very in bold when they became so called moderate and said okay, was reset is fivefold at the time being with the 67 volt, as they never said, we do because he is one doesn't exist full of them. you know, usually let's resolution like that. thank you very much. i don't think this. maybe it was a thought maybe it was a starting point. but what is this computer is so global, that'd be done. what do i get to talk with between yeah, bobby. yeah, no. do i get to talk with any of the way the about the, the most about this? if they say that, imagine that they how much say tomorrow. now, after so many use, we are ready to talk to these various who are ready to the 2 state solution and the

liberal, negotiate about the bowl down refugees, your name me. i would imagine that that would be kind of the solution despite all what happened in the past. okay. does that mean? you know, this week was the 10 years since nelson mandela died? you know, how many people say that it's in apartheid states, a israel nelson mandela refused to negotiate unless the release of the amc prison is guilty of blowing up restaurants frequented by whites in the africa. right. is that normally power is, i mean, which was 9 when you, when you lift the prison was released. i'm honest one though it's a prisoner's, they went to all the prisoners or they call them hostages, l. bayes, real released, but no to uh, from us. i mean, they don't want it from us. we do ask they don't stop. no, no, no, not until they're the president, the palestinian prisoners are released by his rep is just as

a and see that you know, if you can quote today, well they are saying release or the prism is into well and we need to talk to you. well, no, right now the, i'm just quoting the condition for talking we to me, well that's what nelson mandela did, and that's how peace eventually happened in south africa. what do you think if i was a friend of mine, i must missed on monday. i don't compare them by and i interviewed him here and that was his dear. ok, but it was when he was released the negotiations of the united nations on does that contribute to believe that they are the most vulnerable as the agents now i i'm just, i'm just doing the interviewing here and i'm saying that the excel i'm getting deal if they say we are ready if only goes to i just, we do so at least i still though it is before though it is what ever this isn't that the board again, even after the 7, the october, the 7th, because i don't believe for anything. revenge a but they are not saying,

well there was a little that prism is released is when does the payment right to is to, to exist. they want big the price on the well they want. but because you know, doing all the only and all the release, i will, you know, 10 months babies, no doubt, keeping the phone was full well, who does something that nobody in the world will regarding the october the 7th? what do you think of all this information that is solely coming out that the sexual crimes were being uh, evidence was being promoted by this group. zacko. i don't know who that is. it's. i understand founded by a rapist, gave me a break. i don't want even to argue about these people don't believe that this, this for women, oil heat and right then whatever i'm looking to speak to action to drove them that they are wrong. they don't want to believe. so the remote page. but when they did

the limit themselves, beauty and says we were rate, okay, was it? no, no, no, no, no, but do you know 2 of our games, but what do you make of 2 of us comp, other secure from the security team for cable? it's very telling our ets is, riley forces killed these riley jews. and october the 7th. the idea of cold for ariel strikes have killed his riley's ok. maybe it is true and all day the, it's the 1200 people who will keep it on the 7th of october when people use ratings . but why is that not on? it's actually in the israeli press, but it's not in the breads in the united states and i believe that it is 100 percent. right. how you will crazy, please raise you not using the whole day? well, i'm a bill. we paid our service we raped that was says, no, i invented, which i don't think there was any evidence of rainbow on either side, isn't it? but there's now evidence that those that's coming out, you know, i don't want to, i, of course, a good that's good to isis. let's get to that just the bait. let's get to ice

because you mentioned ices. and because somebody doesn't want to believe that drugs, these which took place then was the matter belief it's presenting the evidence is presenting the evidence isn't good. so it is, it is a joyce intervention. what is or or what happened on october. the 7th was, is why no, the only source in the sunday times, for instance, uh in the past few days was this uh, group. zack, uh, and i understand it was founded by a rapist himself. yeah. who them is. uh, will killed himself. but let's get to isis. and the, the ice is fights is, uh, what was this rails position on isis? because didn't israel back the so called rebel groups in syria? do we have a video of nothing? yeah. who visiting isis fighters in 2014, perhaps again times of is a little thing. is there a long been funded 12 groups?

you'll want me to be the spokesman to find it that you all know. i know you don't like them, you know, support or of him, but his job is please no, no, but is this kind of interview. i know you. i know that you are a very serious person in the june, at least. and i don't want to participate in such a dialogue that somebody and what i'm thinking is that god believes that there was no rate that there was most have enough of the bill. there was no such as, oh no, no, no they, no, no, no, it knows. i sure i know there's a lot of people say they are cited as the evidence in british newspapers for the evidence, for rape, taking place and sexual crimes on october the 7th. clearly, but that's okay. let's go to gaza right now. let's go to gaza right now. what do you think about israel's isolation in the international community? as well as the former deputy minister of foreign affairs in the is there any government the full mer?

uh, is there any minister of justice diploma is randy minister economics and planning the fullness spokesman with the is there any labor buddy the foam or is there any minister in the prime minister's office of israel? you'll see ban ended the interview more from going on. the ground up to the stroke, right, the the the welcome back to going

underground. in the 1st off we spoke, the former is riley justice minister. you'll see bailey and who terminated the interview about gaza. but in the hours of thursday morning this week, the legendary british po is in wright who addressed global political injustice. benjamin's f and i died at the age of 65 here. he's one of the last interviews he did with us on this ro, benjamin, thanks for being on going underground a game while we had the premises studio in east london. and what is the revolutionary mines and the 2 are the all the track? well, the track on the album i guess is about of the revolution that i think we need now, not necessarily one where people types of space and all that stuff without it. sometimes i think we need a bit of that. but more about trying to get people to think differently. i'm. i'm just convinced that the old way of doing stuff is just redundant and i know you hear that from live upon to people then here. no change, you know? yeah, yeah, and on a lot, but you know, i said to you before, you know,

i feel economic just and that's the only way i can describe myself now because i look at so many otherwise, people have tried to think that all that in the style and in one way or another, i mean got to find a new way. i don't know what the name of it is. i'm not telling people have to vote . i'm just trying to say, i think outside the box. you know, when i show we've had loki, that's the drill minister must have phonics, even mainstream stuff like storms. if you're on his music to or, i mean i can on the bbc in general for in britain. and they often have debates about whether it's music. it's part of the problem. as regards a really cannot make violence of stairs. he says the 20 way crash music. as far as i've seen as not made people unemployed. music does not put people into by the house in music has not left kids on the street hungry music does not close homelessness. music is trying to reflect those things, the release of jailing or suspended sentences. certainly for musicians drilling

music in south london starting south on the 9th national. that's being blamed for the rising series. you try and find no artist that to do with music and what used to be cold road music and drive music. and a lot of them are very creative people, but i live in a very hostile environment and they just refer to the reality. and when i started creating music, it was a reggae music. and we were talking about unplug unemployment. we talked about the popular on the system. it was think that's what it was doing to us. that was already oddity. there's a wonderful, a, as i'm sorry for quotes any. it may seem several typical sort of guy with dreadlocks to be quoted enough, a guy who had lots to do with an interview and somebody was interviewed by molly and setting up. why is your work so political then he just didn't understand the quite i agree that it was what the thing was interested in them. is that because he just for, i'm just writing about my reality. i'm just writing about the way we live. i'm one

thing about the why we stuff i'm writing about the why be, at least, you know, i'm writing about the way colonialism is affecting me. but it doesn't sit down and go, and i'm going to write political music. and i don't think, you know, i'm drill artist, i'm going to write really drilling music to upset people and cause violence. this is a reality. you jimmy cliff is on this show around the time the most cell environment story started to emerge. and obviously he was suitably angry, but since to resume him, the disgrace to home secretaries amber road. i think she might be running that lead to this as she went, we mean having caribbean families on the show to hear about people who are in their eighties, who never traveled abroad. who are people with rather deportation, even the con, gonna funerals. they're not debts in jamaica, often people, taishan. i mean, surprises us here going on to you. you've been talking about issues to do with the migration and racism for longer. did it surprise you in 1990 for april

1990 for a joint god and it was killed. she was killed by an organizing called extradition squad. that was a squad that used to go around and deport people. she was in the house with her son and they came. and i'm going to quote, my own poetry. they put a live about around for to see to type them band and clips to secure her. and only god knows what else. she's illegal. so the poor to us at the end part of that brought to she died, nobody killed the, she never killed herself. this is, i would jump to make a return to jamaica. so the alien deport as their default. people like me. the problem is much longer than that, i wrote that in 1990 free. you know, this has been going on for years. i used to travel to jamaica and i remember ones around the same time, probably be early in a to getting on a plane behind me. there was

a woman in hon cups. i meant you saw me to recognize mrs. green benjamin benjamin, to help me. please help me. and i said, what's the problem? the reporting they did report to me, i came to england when i was 6 months old. they send him back to jamaica. i don't know. jamaica probably helped me help me. i must like desktop to sit and talk with her the police as the back of the time. i'm all food to fright, to jamaica. i could hear a cry. it just wouldn't let me go near. so we've known about this for years. this is the 21st century and the these lights are going on. i don't know why you're so surprised. no, it doesn't surprise me. and it's very sad that it doesn't surprise me, but it doesn't surprise me. not much has changed. and certainly when it comes to kind of immigration, there was no time in the whole month basis when homework is said, a stop, you're going to have a look at this. and um,

and do something about that that just be pretty can, is an end of this pricing, is that we can it in the wrong direction, not creating an environment for these people to feel that whole the creating a hostile environment. that's not a word of listening to the buyers before and by the woods or to raise a man. yes, we just recently we've had 5 people killed in jamaica and i heard from another one just a couple of days ago of to deportation. yes. of to be palletized and i'm one guy that has gone back. he came here while he was young, but um he had to drive in the fence and they sent him back and he said, all his name is think he's a rapist and a murder because some employees that we had on the report and right just the mattress i need, i need, i need to been deposited on a drive and offense. i don't know about you, but i have a driving expense, you know, be, get pocket tickets all the time. speed, it takes all the time. either you look so innocent. i don't know how to drive it to the best of you being very big campaign or about the change goes islands,

maybe be many people have been don't know much about it. well, why were you involved, and what did you make of this court ruling that the british government seems to be ignoring the britain as to release its imperial control of these islands in the pacific? well, 1st of all, what you said is, right. every time i write or talk about these islands, i get feedback from people. so i never heard of it. could this really have happened? and that's why i talk about it. so it out, right? just what happened to those island? and when it comes to the previous government, ignoring the quotes rulings well, that shows you about, or some people talked about the rule of law, that's fine until it's an inconvenience for them. and then they just ignore it, especially when it comes to the tag asylum. because it's not really in the headlines. i mean, i think at the moment a lot of important things in purchase or international politics. but i'm speaking

from a business perspective. i'm not in the headline because the a so overwhelmed breakfast and the government to get away with a lot of things because of that. i mean, if you go on christian time, something on a few times and i bought that's all they were telling me that it's not current use. you know, if, if, if it's not in the papers, nice thought it'd be shut down and who decides what is called into must not current . i mean, the, the birth of a royal baby. oh. now you're not going to tell me that media seriously called you up to comment on the oil, maybe in terms of its identity politics, race, imperialism, kind of context. just some. when, when the baby was, i don't know a day old and i, well this is a very important moment and i, history. now i am flooding. look. i'm just not interested in

revolutionary minds. don't give a dime when a baby in the palaces bones. i'm really not interested, but what do you think is going through the minds of the kinds of journalists that immediately think? oh, it could be a black, maybe uncle benjamin's up and i don't i, it's very difficult to getting to the mind of somebody think that there's some, some gen or some media people who think that, you know, uh benjamin's us. and i, uh, i can be andrews a call uh um for hers. um, these are the spokes people for the black community. i mean, they were trying to be, we just, we have our point of view, i'm recreate the poetry of whatever. and we have a point of view, but we never time to speak for the black community. we're. none of us are experts on black people, but they seem to think we uh, you know, i mean i've had worse things and i had an interview to have a day with a lady kind of reached out to me the same. so benjamin,

tell me what is it like to be black? i should remember that. so that's good, a good, i mean, how do i answer that? okay, just fine. i just thought of something that would be what judy is on. she's in bell much prisons, a good time to move prisons in this country. what do you make him when he leaks in to a situation regarding jimmy innocent? you know, i really don't know that much about attend. but as soon as i started to hear about these words, suddenly i cleaned the ford. in fact, it would in this way. the idea of somebody who says there's all the stuff that's hidden from you. and i'm going to show you, if i'm going to give it to you left, right, and center is the kind of person i've always wanted to see. you know, i've always, i've always felt that there's so much that we just don't know about. and here's somebody's kind of putting it in the public domain. one thing that really upsets me

is that we don't hear about all of the stuff that they putting as i sort of film of american soldiers shooting innocent people in the streets. you know, this is big news. these are the kinds of things that the people of my country to people should know about. these are the kind of things that these people get up to . there's a lot of poach and wanted it. what am attracts on the album it's, it's called in this world and there's a line that you could apply to do it. and it says i'm, we live in a world where people are exposed corruption and illegal activities. and governments become the ones who are persecuted and on to down. we live in a well, they're both exposed by a license of the law of himself violated by the law. and i really fitness what's happening to him. generally about cool down because people are filled with the privatization of stress being mental illness. obviously this was dirty, obviously this kind of revolutionary of, on demonstrations uprisings what, what is,

what's just on cool down about. it's about young people. and i got a site was originally written about 10 years ago. it's about young people on the streets here. what kind of killing themselves at my isn't guns fighting because this is kind of postcard was there was a side case of and i ran a kidney just sitting outside stuff is facing a guy comes out to me. says what ends are you from? it didn't even answer him suspecting that he came from another place. they shut him . um, i do think sometimes it is overblown. intimate. yeah. but i do know parents who have lost their children that way. so for them it's a very serious thing. i have to be at a funeral just a couple of weeks ago and very similar story. so it was a message to van 5 over a side, but as in the kind of society we live in now, is natural to be angry. you know, it's what you do with and, and when you just start giving your neighbors and your brothers and sisters,

you're directing, getting the wrong way front front and wrote about this kind of. sometimes when people contact the people to read it pressing, then they start to think of themselves. and i think that's what's happening. benjamin stuff and i that who died in the early hours of it says they morning. that's it for the show and condolences from the whole team you're going underground to the thousands. a very families here in the middle east will be back on monday here in hostile golf to and he had to buy with you a woman climate change and environment minutes to dr. bueller? bit live on the way me until then. keep in touch by role as social media or if it's not sense of giving you a country and had to watch on, we're going underground tv on normal, don't come to watch. new and old episodes of going underground see monday the the

dozens of civilians, the reports and the killed in the is really bumming of southern gaza, which had previously been considered a safe stone. plus us policy makes it complicit in the crimes of genocide, ethnic cleansing, a more crime us space is global backlash. often washington veto is a gauze. this is these 5 resolution of the un security council, the following the votes from which the u. k. up stained thousands marched through the streets of london, the funding of the media space in the violets and the ministry spokes person for gibbons, who teased ones at all shipping companies against working with israel sentence any vessel ahead into the country could be a target. the.