against western globally is to be for all people for us. that's the most important thing in the way. also to see if a frank, as i understood is just part of the problem. but do you expect that the african countries and african leaders will abandon the see if a frank in the near future? definitely these are some brothers as the well, i'll come rugs a 5 minute to do. a multi president of monday as me go to was a popular and brother of us trigger in these edge, you know, it's and yeah, it was received. i was received by the president of my, the vice president of nature, you know, and brother of book united, but i'm crowded president to book enough for so all of them want to create a new kind of what is that resistance and you monitor resistance. so everybody of understand in the new generations and mississippi could change the system and i think it's within the policy. but if the institutional elidah understands that we

need to be in the way of union for change, the system is really difficult. but if we altogether, that's a well bottom african the some 5, it means unity and others this way or by, let's look at mitzi. we'd be able to, to change this monetary system. i think recently a number of saw head countries withdrew from the g. 5 saw, had groping and kicking out un missions and for an armies, and now the ship has rejected the un mission, where so many events happening right now. what are the routes of those developments? so with those of the disability men as an aggressive globalization century organize among the brother and sister, edward, 1st we can go from there is approximately 6. so 7. yeah. because we understood that it's not possible. it's the 21st century to evelyn was so much which naturally, when so much and that's what russell's before our natural resources i exploit still

are still in, excuse me, by the wisdom of the gotcha. and when we say that the west of gosh, us teeming our associates, this is that we are on the way. so as you said, you said the beginning, so we kind of extends that. so when i and this to, that was drill at least one of those most sing bought in the political, to be sure you know, for us we can go for go to se, beach. and then with the french speaking africa, i trouble a boy and i forgot, and i just, and i so old is the poverty of all people. and in the same way i, i so as i and i knew that there was many permission, low on to friends where a base in or this country. and i say no that's, that's acceptable. so we've, my brother and sister were created to the movements about an african emergency with the now i'm basie many,

many african french speaking. going to measure with your friends speaking african countries, a diaspora to in europe. and we organize, we've some overlook, come organization, a african organization, groceries, mobilization against french and new calling at least enough to is that creating some kind of as it goes system an atmosphere will style, choose a fresh cooling eddies. and when we were able to create this utmost, but it's really kind of said that the munition inception, we put inception is the mind officer people we try to thoughts to teach them is that it's not acceptable. and it's a 21st century to beat. again, colonize by a for a country is not possible. and after that of those aggressive globalization some but you're taking military people and this was and it's a city lynch is a role as a mission. we've us, as it made or who did the so called put it is not included. the for hers is

some kind of reinstatement. know what it means when so many acts we've always a will of the people and 10, uh, shut the president's bets, the president. where should the last year? because we dress for movie lies is crazy then jimmy. it's exactly the same with him. when's a shot of him? where shed doesn't buy the rest within it, and it was a revolution. is that it wasn't included the it was a revolution sucked executors assuming well, that's up in today. and so that's what's of what's up, and this is a g 5 site, g 5. so it was a creation of french nation already got she and group and nation. we wanted to of some country a lie to the army for be or, or is this man, but we knew this of allies, this, the, him, it was it people to,

one matter i left it, was it people who destroyed the really typically about the situation and she's already got she will destroy lead, you know, want to be so for a park now come read for fight against attrition, because zip the reason i as it is from the ally of the actual light and bot net of the west. emily, gosh, we need to be witness of what the situation we doesn't want to do is a way of for crazy. want to be honest for a fair in terms of true. does it people destroy country and, and how do you think that this newly formed alliance of saw how states can replace fully replace all of those organizations that mission we treated. and i will give you one the one information that will be said with of some of a country with joy. this and you question instruments. good news, my witness there will because there is

a growing that this fiction was aggress woodson. i forgot an easy switch. so what's up and in need and the money in book, in of us with up and in many of the country in a request in synagogue in been as good as my weakness. i see it's been many, many people, well places that we of is that we'd be a very, very big changes in my mind. just recently, russian deputy defense minister us spec. you have cut off, paid a visit to new chef, following molly amber key. and if also, in your opinion, do you think that we should expect a drastic change in the security at the sphere of the region as a result of that visits? first, i think that the most important defend of africa as africa mission. nobody would be

able to different most of accept this 1st, but we are in the way of meeting for over 2 forces. there is a people are always ation in. this was there is, there people is a nation will belong to the natal world. you know, uh, westland mission definitively what somebody gotcha. and the single spot is the nation tried to resist, begins this wisdom or the gosh before it is there was a west against a history to there is little question of west in haste. is the question of people, the nation will belong to the maple and is of if i mission we're going to meet you, but i was. and is this which of what i, what russia like you, them like over the country to try to make it out? is there was a need to add for head or the mission to resist again, was sending for at least and what's the gemini? so it was a visit of the russian minister in my mind is, would, is important,

but i need to be clear about the situation. and i already said that's in the russian fundament, this is the only mission where we'd be able to solve the problem of us. we can program is african nation and is there is some box in there. we want to add those, those goods. but this new part of the need to understand that we doesn't want to change one quarter nicer, but i know that we've all said that the munition we won't respect people's admission and if some a new nation, i respectfully respectfully, we've us. i think it would be a good deal different if what is your personal opinion about the visit and do you have any information about the details of the item of more details. i knew what it was during my list and rush it through the things that you of the same kind of information i have. the only thing i know because it presented of somebody's,

my brother might be brother at the we were received by humans of his shoes few weeks ago. and we could operate in many issue even though i know, and many of us know that to, to day really of a really minute that we bought from there, we come at bus to resist against the so called temporal, we swear in realities a mess on our way of the west and moved to national. that's in reality. and as i think that there is a, there was many, many, many, many aspect of the new kind of collaboration between russia and the new to tow it sees exactly the same way or for collaborations. aries, since it was between money and government and russian authority we, we saw that russia to reduce russia army and sort of, i've never said that lowest wish on me for you want to be clear about the situation and the ends of a sides. the money on government and some money and armies. if i'm uh,

as we quoted them in africa, we're able to take back a is a city of key though, is that's a big, big, big victory. you know, and i think that it gives a possibility of the mission of a country to have hope to make some very drastic changes in the well for watkins. see this new kind of them right now. let's talk about the how mos israel conflict. who do you blame for the escalation? and, gosh, i blamed was that go to night. and he might, he may my life things as there was one colonize quarter lives. a zone is lovely us and say we have your permission and maybe call regards to it's important to clarify the situation and how much is a self defense organization? i am agree we what's the did 7 a to the best of my way. i don't believe in violence,

i don't be leaving the many, many, many things that they saw in the most resistance, but that respect and then we, or ways more we speak thomas designs. that's how we more or ways respect how much besides the, what's the mission? almost right to resist reveals all the way on metals. that's how about data i'm recommend. i know what's up often and what's going on these ation. he's because we're leaving the court and you kind of go to musician in africa. seem to do this very important to explain that. so it explains that and, and, and if i am against globalization in africa, i'm kind of be a foreclosure positioning in, but of science estimates that we must be wides. so that for us, responsible for the escalation in body span for me ease and how is the western mission? well, she bought bradley, so according musician, by this time,

some kind of be acceptable and we, we never access is the same way. we, i guess, go to musician because by this time, because i am getting screwed in the nation or portion of or the dock up the board of the stuff. when i see shoes, time of goals at the zoo, australian government refused to recognize all the crimes and press the cushion against the boys. you know, people in australia is that's a kind of updates that exist to this deal. and it kind of the color musician definitively and what's up in his opinion will return your in the same way. it's up any many, many, many countries. so what is your assessment of the western position of this conflict? and how do you think that the global south can learn some lessons from this situation? a listen is i'd say global 1st need to understand is if we had, let's unites 3. never,

it'd be possible for us to win against. so west that only gosh, because we've got to say watch me once, but even if there is some tension between them sometimes. but the west side of the she is always united to when she need to explain, why don't you get us a jump? what does it go look, issue is real. we know is that 0 and this will be everywhere in west of nation. and when i said she's iron used to be, i don't, said julie slo be. so there is some jewish people and what i'm things are in is we, uh, we have some listed in the, the west side on east. we have some christian the, there was a only, so this is a political ideology is not their religion. this is nothing, at least it is very important to understand that. and sometimes some people will hate you as though it is because there is it for some issues that's, that belong to this. nothing is, i suppose my program, you know, to me to be clear,

but the situation bits i think is a global source, need to understand the results, resist the goals in families. if we don't care for these 2 g c architecture offering thing, at least an inside of this embed at least as the head of some pay at least there is um, the, the new or liberal. or the gotch, you know, with the intimate form of clothing and it's good to make fun of copy police. and we cannot fight against colonization adults to decaf when the deputies is lost and he's watched for an easy so was for them we, we meets definitely desire on this lovely are you have time and again said and talked about the shared threats, the people of gods are facing and the people of africa have phase throughout the centuries. how is the destiny of the african people linked to the destiny

of palestinian people on how can a comment, destiny help you solve your problems in africa? really to unify forces? i guess a comb with him because you know table to understand that we must stronger when we are unified. we love to be able to win against a global most global base. why was or is a says connection with the major we chose away some nation to him and me because eliza is uni 5. they hired me $50.00 west end of the gushy bridge. what are you guys? you french or the dustin gym. i'm gonna be got, she is real, jo, america, i'm really guessing photos in the unified. why? even if we can speak or mean and what's the more, why us so you may have one more thing. what,

but similar to one is no table to lean against. one mission, so commission and the approximate, assess, look, no matter we've or the resources we have when we learned about abraham agreements, many arabic country, a rough country, head board to make some conviction reside on this policy. i kind of distance that is the 21st century. you see you heard of brother ballasting and suffering people press but you i board for work, reeves, ignition or pressure prison. betrayal is the 1st enemy of the said that the munition and i think that is african resistance that we have tried making right loud since many us is heavily to make and create some really links us for this reason that that we were received by the hezbollah a few months ago, you know, it was the last year, and we're going to continue to, to work together on some history. and so if i book loves it then that to come

and help me in need of a common resistance. if you're able to understand that, i think that many things change in the issue. yeah, it's an interesting point you have about time and again, mentioned on different occasions, the need for a convergence between different slides minded nations. and how do you think this multi pull or world order pushed by russian, china, latin america, and even south africa so. so if can help achieve this convergence that you're talking about? i think that's a deliveries. ation of the words really gives a possibility for us many country to understands of america as a rule of americans or royal force, the nation is over. i think that's i was a brig send me a few months ago. and i saw that the, the world is changing,

the world is changing. we're about west and forces. you know, president macro and wanting to be excerpt and a brief summits. visit president of the big summit refuse. so coming of president macklin, south africa was a big victor. many african many were present neither of their global souls before i do it for you. it's a complex to was it was the mission. the change know is in those as we come hot. we've with weston prisons and i think it's a beginning of the big victory because the dental and vision stopped means that the quantization of the month before the, the coordination of the street is a declination of the c split difficult. and it goes and couldn't be consistent. so i think that we are going is a good direction breaks. so suffolk, as a very poor for country or uh, what is the south african authorities to they know what's, what's

a risk sense means because it pays the price both if even if there was many, many, many program again, south africa and somewhere to go to legal discrimination was the majority of black people into that for me to reach you on blackboard was the ends of what was a white already got see is see that is still alive. and so suffolk of it is, that's a country. we know what's the revolution mean, and i think that the connection between south africa in brazil rush china, india, even if i don't always understand the position of mr. moseley of the in jump, but i figured i'd reach read visa. a new page of the story is the 21st century. well, when it comes to africa, it is described both by the western and the eastern hemisphere as a land of opportunities or the golden concept. they refer to as both the western

block and the eastern block. but how do you differentiates between the approaches maintained by russia and the western countries? with regards to building relations with the african nations? i think russia is more pregnant, so you can and the russian listen to so grass was comes be, it can be the 21st century economies issue. so rush, mr. puts in the, at the beginning wasn't call segments really. as the beginning of his presidency wasn't really concerned by africa. but i think that the, this is the connection with the west and betray of the west of mission making, made him understand that the need to be very careful to boise station 1st and in need to change is, is our lives. you know?

so to the russia take back to the heart of a z on cycling, at least the mission, you know, as a shift made before, even if it wasn't different at most of it just by out of time. but russia and me supporting you know, really pregnancy approach and this then that's in need work. we've africa. nation is a wealth, said that the munition on some issue, but that was very important. i forgot to mention it understands that mr. which will never be the mission of african is lead to is a guide official, a really great prison and for his country is what else are going to, is a president on this? was that they respect small, but is it shouldn't going for east country africa need to be misha off a whole this now let's move on to the role played by you. when

peacekeepers on the territories of africa, how do you assess the role played by the un peacekeepers? there as, as was seen, some protest stage by a number of african countries. against that you weren't peacekeepers demanding their withdrawal from their lands. why is this happening? you wouldn't beast keep a part of the system. and i think that the majority of people today, both on the and africa, but seen all about those are what an instance of the way new studio is. you mentioned nation majority of units, emission is western mission, and russia is still again this nation. but when you look what's up and leave is really to do those things as drooping united admission as a re enrolled on it as well. united nation as a bit of western mission. and when you he united keys, peace keeper, you, he couldn't, you know to me what of our lynn for 6 use access to the resources. does it mean

to run a natural resources? so it will, people is a way, can know people is work not working so well. nobody system but is, is really alive. is my mind a life in this then deeply, what kind of musician we are facing today? so and this ends at west thoroughly gosh, we use many swipe as u. n. g o. usually it's united nation peace keeper, and some things like that. it's run, run, let's trip. we understands their system to that. and so on. the beast keep the on our country is people who belong to this country 1st. and so with that being said, can the united nations be considered

a non biased or independent organization? is there is no real chance in united nation united admission that we never, never, never, never gave us something important for. because these issues never because through the condition belong to the people business structure, religion, nation he's the base for us in good to know is nothing but my cool is that the nation is in new york, new york. so most of the country on this for us, america and you'll see things as relates emission can give us some listen about, oh, we need to organize and society. we kind of exit united nation hold the united nation recommendation because really was an behind united nation. is domitian of america and is, are you in ish, your thought about pen efforts in a so, but this is while african societies are very diverse,

they find it difficult to unite as a result of their ethnic, political, and even religious differences. do you have any viable suggestion on how to make africa united despite all of those differences? i think that the that so if you go to nice unless you would you go to nice. i to say that's we have very, very we divided, you know, the mobilization organizing or as i forgot the country see lex last 7 years as a, is a proof of proof that we can be able to unify our forces as one voice. why don't people one destiny, but african, this is us, we're just in division. but our for goodness is the ideal of said the munition of i'll population i work many book on issue. my last book was probably my best seller, philadelphia, from the frequency we is translated in french english,

in spanish. and just waiting to tell him, explain what's off by the fact that it is a what's of the units you of all people waiting to speak about division. we all know more difference. that's all the different people in english and english as a result of the english. oh, you of some people different english and you have some people we brought ahead, very values with one mission. why the, you, some people want to see us as the vibe for the 3007. what's the story of a check off the jump was the old house symbols that we have. we had us african and that's the basis of our, of our benefit, an ideal. and she was a similar what's even into the tree of many branch. but we have what, what's as the most important thing to us in organizations, areas or as african natural language. both we, i will come when this was a pleasure talking to you. can you set up with that for me?

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