aids are in a state of panic, the world is crumbling before their eyes. they resort to fake news lies and deception. instead of talking about the american back genocide in gaza, we're told anti semitism at home is ramping, or the trump is a tyrant when they themselves resort with ordinary means to undermine democracy. the discuss these issues in mor, i'm joined by my guess george, send me well we in budapest, he's a pod tester at the capital which can be found on youtube and locals and emeritus. we have martin j e as in award winning journalist and commentator digital and cross up roles and the fact that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. start out with georgia in budapest. i suppose there is not much debates anymore. the public sphere has just been so cold, completely corrupted work war as peace, peace is war. and if you hate someone there,

the next tebler and makes so it's really boring, it's kind of a manic in way of looking at the world. it tells us our media so silos, the people only will listen to what they want to hear. i mean, we, we, we saw the saga over the, over the week with the american university presidents, you know, um, do you condemn of mine has a do support genocide which are obviously completely ridiculous. questions to be asking a lot of other important questions aren't being asked george, but that this environment we live in, i mean, it almost makes the caricature of mccarthyism george. there's no question. and it's a mazda full of changing all the subjects of something that's an american, uh, media. and of course, the american policy makers. and the thing thing because of a very good a doing. when you don't want to talk about one thing, you change the subject and talk about something l. so we see we have more more

evidence that this war in your brain has been mazda minded from the beginning by the united states. and this little ally or poppy or whatever you want to call it, they the united kingdom on. and so we see what the, what goes on every day in gaza. it's a, it's, it's for ripping. and we see out of the well, the react view. we have a vote in the united nations in which the 13 members, both for a ceasefire, the united states, um, uh, you know, rejects that, you did, i did, gave them again app stay ins as well. do of the american media as well. but what's the big issue, what's the, what's, what's the, the, the really salient math that we have to address rather than to anti semitism uh, in the united states. and of course, there isn't really any evidence to present for this just as they,

they don't have anything. so you're just making it up. and it's very similar to what we went through in 2017 when we had the off the effects of the shop victory by trying. but of course, you know, in a different way the shop breaks it both. well, what, how do we explain this? what do i, what, what, what do we talk about now? i think i can be the elite small, the, you know, we didn't, we didn't do anything wrong. so therefore it had to be rushed or rush. or would that something, you know, some, you know, matching ations but don't quite understand what it is they did, but i'm sure will find out and then today. so yeah. um what, what, what, what's it this is all about? oh, it's anti semitism? well, we'll just make it up, you know, we do, we'll, we'll wake up what, what, what this anti semitism is, but we'll just keep repeating it. and then when, when the new york times rate is on the washington post, we'll beat them under the atlantic. and everybody else and then it just becomes an echo chamber. we're talking about something that is a part of the real, but it's totally made up. yeah. well that's the wrinkle and all of this martin is

that, or that many orthodox jews, particularly in the united states, do not recognize the state of israel. they think it's a, a, it's a fake. it is historical expression. it has nothing to do with their religion judaism, and they find zine is them to be a part you could tell there's a lot of business railways they'd be of exactly the same way. so if i guess there is, i semites, her pictures. yeah, it's, it's a, it's a really convenient, really cheap throw away, provocative polemic attack on anybody who has an opinion. anybody has an opinion, you know, and, and that's been an agent response for such a long time. now, i'm just upset, right about the big media. i'm, let's go over those ations using it to change the subject, you know, to georgia list away from, well, they should be learning about, you know, and the real um, the real story in both time, which is a daily real um,

absolutely. um, apocalyptic genocide who has been carried out by israel and how we can effect this and use to come is what i want to know how we're going to re cups and re edit this whole thing like a hollywood movie. i'm presented to our children, my grandchildren, under university professors, and historians general this and the say, no, he actually didn't happen to not, but i mean, i'm, oh, well, no mark. and he kept using invoking historical reference here. i mean, it's very much in of style and ask um, you know, no people, no problem. i mean, and that's what they basically want to make mistakes. were made mistakes for me that, that was like, i think that was still a through the official history. you've got to feel hold of the home. close. denial is going to be coming around again. um, you know, goes a holocaust denial and the anti semite code, you know, which is plates. and so you, because it, because she's now to anybody, but particularly on this the, i think you surgical, this is becoming so fast ago that now you have

a situation now where by might be factors. but a few days ago, there were none rigs from the international court, you see in the hague that it might look at um, will crime allegations against israel and, and miss neal who and what was known as response. you might have as you have been a glitch and he said this is do semitism. netflix is 60, i need to go really make it up, you know? so that, that's how that's, that's the limit of just how far this falls can go. but you know, the, the whole idea of the worry now that we no longer now know the difference between fake news and the real, the real narrative it. so i mean, a lot of channels. this is, this is a very interesting turning point. i mean, october 7th, probably will go down in history for a variety of reasons, depending on how you think about the situation in what will it eventually result. so there are too many people in power double. i don't remember what happened on jet

on october of 6 or what happened on october. 8th, that's going to be the problem, george. but for me, one of the saddest things is that the great supporters who procedures for free speech conservatives may have given up the ghost to and that's why we're making this program george, this right. and there was indeed the absolutely shocking. when we had those the university president and some of these are the, the 3 among the 3, the most prestigious universities in the united states, as your university of pennsylvania. uh mit um tava and, and they were just being a race over the coals. oh is something completely fictional there. uh theres somehow advocating genocide of the jews that there uh the rambling that is elite liberal, elite universities. you know, way in which there are a very high percentage of joyce hewn is that in these universe, it is,

there is ramping that you sent me. it is on and let you know, yes, it was at least the phonic was a kind of a trump and will lead the charge. but it was overwhelming simple of what she did. you know, you had um, lauren's drive are gonna be coming out. yeah. i mean, i may not like least divani, but she really did a great job there. and then we had the morning joe brought in. everybody somehow cheering the song. and this is a total find was, i mean is a lives the, the address thing in the, in the united states today, there's a, you know, the, there's a raging anti semitism and people calling for the genocide of the jews. and then when you're off, well, what's your evidence? that is what, what, what is it when we get it, can you show me where the somewhere was? somebody did this. well, it really isn't then like i'm oh yeah, well that slogan um, from the river to the sea palestine will be for yeah. that, that, that involves the destruction of israel, which means the genocide of the jews. what because that's just simply their

interpretation. but that non sensical interpretation they like, why is this uh, reality and then people tweet out, oh yeah, people go into the heart of the going round st gas, the jews. and then what some of that will give me one example, one example, anybody, anybody in any of the hobbit or anywhere else? and they did problem of the place, st gas, the jews. well, there isn't, that doesn't matter is the, and that's why the analogy with russia gauges is. so app set both. can you just find the one evidence of these live? it is one way which trunk polluted or the rushes into fade in the election just to, to do. but trust your case reason. but, but the by, by tens of repetition with the way we live in, in this complete fantasy was so all in all the positive. well they, they looking at gauze, i think this is actually, they have a risk that goes to visit monsters. what's going on? what's going on in the united states, they're arguing about uh, the anti semitism hip look up is apparently all these and these were on the road to

power. and apparently martin in, in israel all the talk is about the release of the hostages, based on the scan coverage of what's going on and gaza. mostly because people in israel are not interested. okay. and intentionally. and i find it very curious that if you said from the river to the sea and what is real, oh, be free. would that be calling for the genocide of palestinians? i don't think there's any one way to interpret that way. you know, i think these slogans tend to get exaggerated and conveniently misinterpreted on the ground scale. you know, pretty well what we're seeing. what is unprecedented is a new level, a new volume, new mess of fake news now which is distorting everything is just don't see how we talk about the subjects is disposing out john this report on them. you know, i mean, it's getting to the stage now where people are starting to wake up and i'm, unfortunately, you have the last 10 or 15 years mainstream media has made

a conscious decision to follow and to replicate social media. social media is now the new mainstream media. social media is the new platform which is distorting all these things, you know, and i think these slogans will these, these things um, such as the one that you cited or others, you know, uh, being used as tools for propaganda for, for field. we also have the case and the last, the news cycles, george of the weapon ization of rate. you and i did a separate pod cast on that. and when the investigator i permit, i don't have it written down here. but the investigator, when she was asked by journalist and this is really media, you know, what are you going to be presenting evidence of? it's all my job to do that. i'm not a journalist at your job to do it, but she's making claims and nephews ations. while at the same time she's saying i, but it's not incumbent upon me to produce any evidence to back up my claims. i mean, if and that isn't circular, i don't know. what is george? perfect. exactly. so she put together this team of 15

women. um and um and when this a report from higher ed kind of auster about the, the evidence they said, well yeah, that's not my job to find the evidence. i mean, you know, they will probably find the evidence in about 2030 years because, you know, many went in and out dead and all the women and upcoming forward. so now as you're making this boss assertions, i mean, you know, just saying, oh, you know, rapes that good. you said there was a, a policy of mass rates. and also she may have made it that made it the assumption that there are videos, but we can't show them. i mean the exact, the that's our, their game when the, what the issue of evan is. oh yeah, yeah. well, literally you will, all of these videos on the ground has kind of gram channels. yeah. well, where all of it, i mean if the, if the publicly available and you should be able to just show um, because they're all in a, i mean, you know, the city of the arts,

i gotta jump in here and we have to go to a hard break and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on bakeney and stay with archie. the the

welcome edge across stuff were all things are considered and peter will bill this the home addition to remind me were discussing big news. the . okay, let's change gears gentlemen. while we have this, um, what i just think is this the fiasco about how to a twist and turn and reinterpret and dismiss what's going on and god. so we had the same a new cycles. martin is the sudden fear that donald trump might come back and if he called us back, do you watch the abuse and $8.00 that you want? revenge. okay. and he was a trumpet given an interview with sean hannity. and he was asked that was actually the same question, you know, are, are you going to do it? i'm paraphrasing here. are you going to take revenge on your political bows and trump? and he has trump and style said on day one on the 1st day. and he talked about

drill, drill, drill, and close the border. of course that was interpreted all to the liberal the, the eco system is that yes, these grow that most statute is a swastika on his shoulder. okay. i mean, it was just, it just a, do you think you're watching the babylon be? it's so absurd. but these people say, and i'm not saying this is a trump supporter, i'm just looking at how media is being weaponized against democracy because we all know the polling out there. now i have always dismiss bowling, but when you get down to certain congressional districts that symbolize are taking it interest, okay, cuz that's what wins elections. okay. not any kind of gen, baron ballot or anything like that. so we're getting close here and there are panicking, and so they have to trump this, and that's the next step works, even though he wasn't peddler, really when he was president, i'm not sure how that works, but that's what they're saying, martin. but that's, that's a, that's a, that's the sort of slightly abusive would i piece of use of the word hipley because

that suggests that we in the west. i agree, america hate did hitler. and we didn't really well, we hate to him as an individual, but we didn't hate his. his policies and his fascism. another 2 and i think so from coming back in is uh you have a very similar situation in america that you have in person. you have to contend as he was so bad, who are so underperforming in terms of what we traditionally regard as political of political hour and terrorism. and these days, you know, is people of voting no, not for what they want to for, for whom they want everything against the candidate. and that's, that's how binary and pathetic and simplistic. american politics has become in a book, the trunk to come back. and i put money on it and actually put money on it. i think it's becoming a search and see more and more every day because biting this just made such a dog's breakfast. all these and tired of, of so term,

particularly on the phone policy. so, you know, because we've got a data genocide happening in gauze and now with the possibilities of the regional was around, you know, it's just incredible. you, ukraine is just such a mess. you know, we talked before about the 7575th birthday of, of nato. pencilled in for the june and how is bite and gonna, you know, just cruise through this without taking an absolute battery. i mean, but going back to know your point, about distracting in the gym this away from the real news agenda. trump was an absolute genius. this absolute genius, i mean, you know, we, we, he did it for us generally as we didn't even realize. and so we started counting articles, how many pieces per month. we were writing with trump in the headline because he was an absolute genius of just saying something or tweet, or something completely stupid, totally polemic. and it distracted them into a circus, on the big media jobs away from what they should be reporting on. and you know,

i think we're going to expect more of that from trump if he gets in next time and an over simplification of some of these big subjects, you know, but yeah, what would you say um fort from is that a woman go, you know, and this is what i really annoyed when people people talked about bite and trump had an opportunity, an old lesson opportunity, which i know for a lot of people understood if he'd gone for it to attack a run when you had this american try and being hit by the rain sources and in the go on like remember when you guys wensel's, we met ordered missile strikes against syria always. i think it was somebody at nbc nbc said fine when he's become president. finally, he's presidential again because of that. yeah, i want to clarify with every everyone here. i think a dog's breakfast is a bad thing. okay. but mine dogs like back in the morning, i just want to clear the air on that one there. but you know, george, it's a good and yet you know, this is this resurrection of this. it seeing a new version. it's a 2 point. oh about trump is a tyrant. it's no coincidence when you look at bindings paulding numbers. martin is

absolutely right. we have, there's an snivla's sense this more and you'd frame that they won't back away from . and then you know, we're supposed to close our eyes and ears, about one of the most cap, probably the most catastrophic human rights violation and non lifetime. and that's thing something gentleman that's really saying you don't think know you have george? yeah sir, that's really the exactly. and again, as we were talking about earlier about the, the distraction, let's talk about the real news. let's talk about the a, something that's a fantastic old. this certainly obsession with tom is also a way of, uh, changing the subject. so the, you know, that was the, the belief media could be talking about the fact that this war in gaza is being enabled by the united states. i mean, they, you know, the by done ministration isn't just offering diplomatic support is,

or at least actually pouring in weapons for you. but even when people watching this risk destruction, the united states gets boring and weapons and all scape a mall a money full, more weapons. so rather than that, and they're not putting it and they're not particularly transparent when it comes to the type of weapons and that it's really very much in, in, in, in the, in, in the middle of the night. okay. here's because people are asking, you know, if you weren't here and asking the is we're asking that demanding, asking them to use more precision and they use, they send these to 1000 pound bombs. how can that ever even be precise? i mean that's like take out a city block. ok. and then the sports events against, i'm sorry to interrupt george, keep well that, exactly. but instead of that, so we have the new york times washington, both on the atlantic going now publishing these multi pop, multi contribute to, uh, uh, pieces on the original on of trunk, all the terrible things that trump is going to do. um, if he comes back,

i like this uh, we both leave nato and i like way like really upset about that website man. apple button. right? oh my god truck is going to leave uh, nato. and uh and so we were thinking about something that is fantastic or something that is down the road. we have the election still a year away. god knows what's gonna happen during the coming year. but we're talking about that and then everyone everyone is exposed. really thing of this for reflect that this awful thing is going to happen, which is drunk coming back. but what about this? what about the will the people dying in your brain a little bit with dying in the gaza? when we don't, we don't talk about that when we talk about something that is entirely of at this stage of fictional, the fact is, trump hasn't been in power for 3 years. is binding. this is vitamins was these is bite and spa. this is truly it's addressing that i am you the be that you probably

so that's a jimmy door. how the little item on robert. the narrow because again, it's a either he's in an interesting, typical sort of figure rather than they're always up to the hate or a trump. and i, you know, he just talks about how he wants to punch him in the face. you know, take him in the grind or whatever. and then when he is us, somebody goes cnn. austin. yeah, well, what exactly is it about trump? did you find so the testable? well, i don't know really. um, he's just the crazy guy. i read it there. it is like, you know, yeah, well the, you know, like from, i think so i think i'll even explain what it is. he hates about the drum at these people like that and sean, penn, they should just stay in the they're acting late and i think they're right actors. okay. but that very clear, political views doesn't deserve air time. but you know, martin, that is that they're setting up uh for them. it least in the american context here with the election here is the, is the, the new more on um,

trump's supporters. i mean, i think that's what it's all about. it's a, they may, they're attacking trump, he's in every room. if you don't know, donald trump is then you've been living under a rock for 8 years. okay. i mean, he's a very more well known quantity, but they're candidate than that. and they're part of your preference of the democrats are increasingly divided. they have an, i'm popular president. and so the way you deflect is just how bad trump was, even though if he was a dictator, george. and i've talked about this a lot if he was a dictator when he was president, you better change the definition of what it dictate or is because he was the worst bit gainer. and then in the, in the history of dictators, if that's what you want to call them, go ahead mark to. yeah, he's, does this a no good. what does it dictate? so the interesting thing i find about trump is you talk about the, the, the impacts of what of, what's going on in america and how people coming out of sort of which sound to get a support is

a wonder how many people in america would be curious to know what's going on in the middle east, because in the many region in this part of the world. most if not, oh, middle east, the arab leaders of this pause world or waiting for trump to come back. the old banking on that there, old putting the last book on trump coming back. i'm fixing all these problems because you have this kind of malays this, this a pass between uh, most of these countries and the button, the ministration, instead of just basically waiting for the bite ministrations to move on. because we count, you know, lowest countries, comp, workouts. the difference is the current agree on, on really on a number of huge issues. and just recently, just uh, 2 days ago, russia, an opec agreed to cut over production again, which is another smack in the face for bite. and there's another reminder that you don't tell us, well, international or prices are going to be, we tell you, you know, again, you know, we're, we're waiting for this weather. we talked about morocco and the western sahara.

they'll see a algeria or bigger issues in the middle east about and the certainly now this is even impetus for somebody of his career though you can jets in to come sense especially was, has together and stop the blood shedding. cause i think, i think some of my trump could do the, i mean to demonstrate trump and button here is button can only really, you know, cool for cease wise and cool. so for the end of this bloodshed blessing, trump would go for that. so you would actually see, you would actually, you know, issue ultimatums to, to, to the time the really convince of that this thing with this, this thing it, this issue in the united states has so much in stone that it, that's why we're seeing the reaction to charge us to a 35 seconds to go ahead. what i think, what my does, that is very interesting and engage the americans and the british. they live in their own little bubble, they, they take it for granted that the hatreds are shed by the rest of the world. and

they don't seem to realize that to do it, but many positive what they think of the term view as being relatively good years. there wasn't any new was um there were openings in certain parts of world towards be such as in with north korea and the bible is just stuck in the positivity is just start getting this cold. well yeah. so eventually is, uni, polo will moment and, and there's nothing good can come out of that. yeah. and there's so comfortable and that's no comfort zone. that's what they seem to understand even though and they never, uh, never engenders any kind of positive result. gentleman, that's all the time we have one of the thing, my guessing marrakech, and in budapest and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here in our dc and next time. remember, across top of the,

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the a historic ruling by india, a supreme court will see the union territory of general and kashmir, fully incorporated into the country. elections are due to be held there now by the end of next september. also in the program. the is really strikes claim dozens of lives in southern guns that were the idea of his dropping leaflets. purging civilians to flee the area of locals. us. where else does their tips go? also this campus transformed into a war zone between the palestinian resistance and the israeli occupation army. we are now in the block to which recently experienced intense showing.