the, the, as you can hear, explosions reverberates in the spouse of gaza, where the bombing of farm land and the alpha lomb neighborhood, east of rafa is occurring, along with nearby areas is really forces continue their attacks on to bali, a refugee camp as this place, palestinians are pushed further south for the bombing intensive, 5 thousands of lee and the theme say they don't know where they can find a safe shelter. there's, we don't know where to go. they force us to leave, but no one keeps any clarification. they told us to go to the tunnel street, but the palms of their firing, both bullets and miss tiles not any but his 3 life is not less valuable than any

other said. the jordanian prime minister questions israel's impunity stressing the value of palestinian lives. this comes as world of policy makers discuss the middle east conflict of the ongoing and doha for him. and a historic ruling by india supreme court will see the union territory of john move and kashmir fully incorporated into the country with alexis to be scheduled within 9 months. the headlines were following here on our see international next, on going underground host option were time to speak with the you a used former time of change minister about the comp 28 the after north antsy and welcome back to going underground,

broadcasting all around the world. from top 28 hosts new by it's the largest united nations climate change conference bringing together the 198 countries. all parties are to ratify the 1990 to you and framework convention on climate change. nearly every country in the world with me is the res, whom administer of climate change and environment development minister infrastructure development, talk up to about life on the way. me. thank you so much for coming on from a climate to minnesota. so of course there's a lot of tools that in the past few days. yeah, that'd be a pigeon as being the in the you a but a hundreds of billions of dollars being pledged, took off the 28th is it closes tomorrow. but headlines in the nato countries saying that you a doesn't deserve to host that summit and all kinds of things we can get into what's this contrast between what we're hearing across the global south about the hopes that they've been engendered here in the u. a. and into by and the in, so that's,

that's really back to here. but i believe that people can think of that leading noble south. they can, they can see anything they want. but today we have a examples. this isn't on the 1st go. this is comp 28 and now they really need to compare that with the previous 27, a conferences that has taken place almost everywhere in the, in, in, in europe. what we, what we have today is, is, is a success. success in the sense that the, the host has in the d one, a glitch that a fund that has never been an issue. and then he puts that 50000000000 as, as a, a good will to make,

to make others participate on such a fund. we know, and these is exactly what we, what do we have, what do we have to date? a country, a small country? yes. with big hopes. yes. and what we have seen today, and during the last 10 days of the cop uh that we've been, we've been doing great. yeah. but you know, you bill clinton's, vice president al gore when he so when he was in office he always was sanctions on iraq, of course, which killed half a 1000000 children. we have john gary climb and don't have a way of abiding administration that refuses the way equals versus firing gaza. both of these people are saying, no, you a is a, is a non great that. i mean, it has very, i'll go, i'll go and send you a is not an honest broker more or less. i don't tell you if you, if you, if anyone,

anyone could say anything. but you really need to, to, to justify what to say. and the justification is the end project is the result of what we, what we've, what we've seen and what we've done. now, in the united of image, we have actually, when we, when we asked for a cop to hostile it's what over wouldn't mean everybody is willing to, to, to all the countries, including the carpet engine that we assume that the, the sentiment are coming from. they then say, know, for us, a hosting come from us of this nature. this is not, is not an easy topic and we know that it's not an easy job. we know that we have to, to, to face such a criticism. we know that it's not that the size of the movies does, aside from the normal criticism you would expect about no going fast enough. we 1.5

degrees centigrade mission. this is this a direct insults to this country that, that is, that is how they thing can these individuals, they do not actually do to present that countries uh, in any way. well, they could, they don't carry, does use the bite and administration that is true. that is true. but that does not, that does not really uh, how does that us in any way or does not actually uh eh, give us any, any, any. and so within, within, within our itself we know that we, we have been doing great, but literally in this fight. uh, maybe in other slides they can do anything criticize in any way, but they would always come up with something to criticize the small countries. and that is, that is not, not only when it comes to, to, to a couple of meetings and even even identifies the human rights by everything they

would come up with something to, to, to criticize as more countries and visit. i think it's high time to, to, to really a give a little bit different aspect to the smaller countries who are doing great when it comes to a topic, academic change. what we've done during the, the, the last 3 decades. that is, is, is, is it really, is it any i'm believe of it then i have been out of but although we know that we are a very small contribute that is to the, to the admission why we, we contribute to this 9.6 percent. why the united states does about 17 percent and then the, then the problem is whether or not with us, but we are participating when we are actually looking into that issue as a global issue. it's not as looking into climate change as an issue, and that would actually be within, within the united data image. so,

so data it'd be a lot of, i mean nobody to know if he's ever though, but issue and we have to work together. now if anyone comes and say that to this country has, has no respect to what it was being we've been doing. great, it's been hosting. i want to get onto those different measures. but of course, there's no criticism of my grand easier in palo and countries that may washington's rules. this will, this will countries to civil tenuously. as regards the media perceptions of, of things. the bbc in britain, which of course is being accused of promoting is riley propaganda. during the alleged guys a genocide, i'm not sure if you saw it, but that was blanket coverage. did they have a whistle blower? documents showing that you a was gonna raise? use cop $28.00 to discuss oil and gas. i mean, what was your 1st reaction when you heard i to the, i mean why this was and whether it was true, i mean, has been denied by the way, government. what's the, what's behind all of that? how does the rail?

so what's a, what they have actually they have reported, they have reported their report that came on in new york times. it's, it's not, it's not that nothing at all. we know that this is, this is a coming song. and they would, we knew right from day one that things would come. but the question is, why do we have to, to do that now for anything that has, we have to offer it easy to do it. today we are, yes, we are a small country, but we are, we are doing great when it comes to the to the, to the human am eh, center. how many do you think it's him on breaks membership? i think, i mean, what is it? why are they doing this? all of a sudden they have, they must be, they must be at ease in that maybe we don't to know. uh, but they, they the different it to the look down up in small countries that are seen to be so no malawi and other countries. i was born on board, but here is

a nation that is impacting that nope, we are when yes we are a small and a number. so yes, we got a small in, in, in, in, in, in areas. but the impact is going be beyond what we, what, what, what, what we've seen and what generic, public know, what our efforts, but particularly on the, on the, on the human sense that we are, we will, we have a lot of things we can help our efforts it goes beyond oceans and we've, we've been doing great when it comes to financing a renewables when it comes to this is what the people are talking about. we do not want to get into a, a political fight. and then today we, we look at when you administer of climate change, do you feel it was as weaponized mean it says of climate change policy is being webinar as, depending on the nature of foreign policy, was it as well?

is it hard to job? now it has always be, it has even human rights find out a way of a nice today the climate change while and then i said, oh it's i, i don't know, i don't know how when kind of handled a file like this. now, yes, we have a, a petroleum country hits, we are we, this is how we develop a teacher by story so much. but that does not stop us from actually going with the, with the global agreement. a we've been, we in the, in the mean that agent we haven't, we understanding very well when it comes to, to, to uh, yeah, but it's not just the way it is, criticize russia, which of course is expanding. is nuclear, a non common to me thing, technologies, china and massive expanding. so it's all of those ricks countries that are being

hit with criticisms, strange stories, suddenly appearing in the news, you would find money. but for us in the united of image we, we, we are moving on. if we, we, for that in, we stop somewhere, we know that we wouldn't, we would, we would have been fine with that they, they speak, or they don't to speak without a lot of improving our economy. we are actually participating in the international arena. yeah. but why, why, or how trusted are the united states delegates here and to by giving the massive expansion of the permian basin of gas in texas and new mexico. while on the surface, we had your own carrie and joe biden, talking about as the evils of uh, yes, because the, this is, this is how we proceed from, from, from a industrial countries and not only the united states, but most of the,

most of the most of the industrialized countries today of fading to commit what they, what they have promised not on the promised us. we don't need that. the problem is, but they have promised the whole, the whole continent in africa. and they have promised all the developing countries in asia. and you know, they could always come up with what they think part of the story, what city they need to look into, what they should be doing to really need the new world. if you will, don't be fit to own your product. these are the partners you will not last long. and i can see that from all these integration, that's what i'll give me. they have, they have lots of quite alone. i know it's a young country the united states,

but they have lasted long and actually on the side ends of call me in the u. a. and of course the gc, the topic is more garza then global climate emissions that's through in the us is all mean is that, is that is that is true or they do, they do what they think is, is, is good for the better for the better interest and we believe that we know that what, what interests them may not be of interest to us. and we have to accept that what interests us may not. they may not like it, but we do what we think is appropriate for our nation. we don't do what is good for them. i will promoting a piece. we have a country where we have hosted the pump. we have always to be in, in, in one place that hasn't been done before. and that is, that shows what we are and do not get out of it, but that shows that we are going going at

a city that could be could throw rocks anyways. but for us, we're doing, we're doing good. we're doing great. and we believe that we are yes, we ought as one nation, but i want to impact is, is, is, is, see, and here over the, the group, all the pope could make it because of illness, but letting me page into it. but he did. but anyway, i left as i have to stop you there, more from the for me you a minister of climate change and environment after this break the

the, the, the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with you for me, you a minister of climate change and environment. don't drop down the way me. we were talking about this a web, an i zation of the climate change. is it? well, you written about the importance of not just c o 2, but me saying why is maintained such an important component of this whole climate

crisis debate method is the 2nd put into gas uh, on the, on the, on the, on the acoustic impact. i've written about not only about carbon dioxide in to try to only about anything, but i also wrote about night thoughts outside the component that we don't know about today. but in, in a decade time and 20 each time we realized that this would talk to the jump to be put in regards to that probably we cannot control it. it's not only within, but it's also bad for the, for the ozone. and before it's sort of thing, yes, maybe for 2 decades to the get of the gas, is that actually deplete that? that was on the table. i remember the cfc and the refrigerator exactly whole house us could change that quickly. exactly. related to the day to day to day. everybody

has a lot of the i've been, you know, behind this in this phase that we don't know. so what's the, what it's impact is going to be a go back to me thing though, you know, but of the ukraine more, we find it on this program from a great john was like, as he watched the north stream pipeline explosion was the newer was the largest single as a human man may retain event to be equivalent to the daily emissions of all the things in the world from oil and gas. you think anyone who called 28 even mentioned that to the by the administration and fortune? i'm not sure if they did, but this should have you mentioned because today we have to work together by make was an equal if it is indeed the by the ministration is some evidence

suggest? how can one even talk to a bite, missed registration that it's responsible for an eco terror attack that is against the environment? i totally agree uh, but is saying it's as easy as i'm actually doing it because today today the, the association is complex. if, if you're just, if there is an issue with, with, with, with the company, you can not forget the rest of, of, of i just making one mention. yeah, that is the editor. but i believe that we really need to, to, to work together. if we, if anyone of us, particularly if, when i tell you if a country dumped an agreement, the high that they have for, i need for lower trump, you every yeah. then they expect you can expect, you know, prior to body's agreement, there was an agreement made on talk you and create to agreement is

a legally binding agreement to i'm 2 countries. and one of them is the, what i did state to doing, doing a box administration that i need to probably be done with this. they didn't, could i have to fly around obama? yes. uh. and then it went to a new agreement. that is, there made this body's agreement, it's not, it's not, it's not bodies who initiated it. is they initiated and the whole not branded behind the bodies agreement in a fine morning and administer. i never had administration came cause i thought thank you very much. there is nothing recorder, global warming, e mail for the administration that might be coming back into by or in a few months time. it could be next year. so they might weigh a selection. they might also say thank you very much and you're talking about a country that is contributing of more than 17 percent.

have i have the general climate change thing. if you take 1990 to 2014 figures, you as a $1.00 trillion dollars. china 1.8. sure. yeah, china is the one that's blamed, but of course happy to doesn't even compare with the usa and the us is that the much longer time the imaging destiny is uh, these gases, chinese chinese, they will not. and or they will even, even prior to a bodies agreement, they will have another know they would have given that opportunity to develop that in the city. and they are they. so that was right. you cannot have that, that the bottom you had a between developed countries with where they have for 200 theaters, dumped all the the emissions to the, to that was we had what we see today is not, is not what china is doing today, or saudi at a be a lot of what we are doing well, our age in, in, in,

in carbon dioxide is, is, is this not under sure that poll fishing was really bad for the and that's through, i believe it is. i mean the, i think given that the military's of this, well, he made climate changing kind of changing gases. why use is that this is to a part of the comb, 28 negotiations. there's an u. s. military base between that would that be and by here there between sending in warships to protect israel, perhaps a while the preparations a call between the 8 into by will going on imaging, who knows what the you a introduced for the 1st time health and environment to elements disco, 28, still know nothing about the military given that the united states military, some people say is equivalent to the 6 country in the world in terms of emissions, opportunity awards, jeanette id and, and military is,

is responsible for about 6 percent of that mission that is 10 times a of what we, what we produce in the year. and that is, that is it fact. and now who organizes now if you, if you go to the, to the, to the, to explore what you see to zones they do and degree. we would organize them both, but the topics of it is the united nations issue, something to do with the presidency. yeah. we, we do not dictate we, we, those good that help for the 1st time was here. that's through as well. that's, there's no doubt about that, but that the, the, the agenda and the program is actually as being, is being, is being that as a possibility of the, of the united nation. they actually should consider these elements because these are not, not only this elements, but they should also put in the agenda is this future gas is that we don't know anything about today,

but they might be put into the must be the disasters in 10 years time they know it this not that they don't know that that, that throws upside is, is, is, is, is hot and what they, they do that is common sense, whatever they want. so i think there are some, some topics that need to be included. a positive from the military to read your mission instead of all this stuff about loss and damage to develop why? why change all these developing nations from above and tell or do them around? not the benefits in the way that the industrial countries have over the last 100 years or so. why don't we start when take us military? it's the majority of the world of knows there's but 6 percent figures you said as an estimate, no one knows you and doesn't seem to even be looking at assets and, and then to and you're good areas. goals are no exceptions as regards emissions.

so does that mean us military emissions? always good there? good. there is a lot of trouble at the moment on his plate for backing and see if i can area in a position to watch and god bless his heart. i think he is doing great so far, but i know we do not one really to specifically say i have no exceptions. yeah. but that is, that is now, is the military military operations ought to be as, as, as an exceptions or, or not. if we do that, if they are accepted and that is by the i'd be exactly by that just like you on i, if we think of carbon dioxide, this is how we ex, had and then kind of on dioxide. is that an exception or not? there are, there are a activities that say that the accepting that probably to do with population control. that's what it was regarding human ex relation. yeah. but it needs to be

accepted is because uh, the reason is 444 where ours for us. right now we're in new, my host of go between the aid. there's a u. s. military base, not far from the studio. does the way you know how much the emissions of this, because you saw the reports. i think the, again, the bbc and nato outlets were doing, which was ad quality at the host of golf. 28 is really bad because of flaming on gas wells. but does anyone know about this u. s. military base alpharetta basically that is actually it is, it is, it is absolutely the united nation is aware of that. they know the emissions of, of almost everything they have. they have agencies all over the world and they know what to what to accept and what to accept. what to include in the agenda and what not to good for, for the future. for, for, for the united of image,

we are hosting this event, and we would like to make a success out of it in the, in the, in the sense of administrating v v, v. what is being given to us to make a success of what the agenda, whether this is good to discuss these discussions are out of a related to the, to the, to the, at united the nation. if ccc, that's where they need the to say, these are the new elements that we need to consider, that i would not be surprised to see that in the $34.00 or 5 feet is time that these are also discussed. we couldn't, we did not at some point assume that eh, a meeting would be discussed if a gas as enough don't have gas. so how many was activity was only

and one gas an annoy, and then they included gas. i know we know that got sent or you know, half pages and they will disappear. they, they will definitely be depleted. they would vanish at the, the, the other ports today. it says that the gas and, or even within the next 50 years, was not to be that's what we do today. we, in, in, in, in the petroleum countries that's we are improving the environment with the money of the, of the, of the oil and gas. and we're doing good for the more for the photo and go to other countries to do that are just very briefly. and finally, so when trump leaves the i, b, c virus agreement, the rest of the world can make it work without the united states. the world, no, no, i don't in united states is, is an important to play it on this issue. and they would probably be

convinced to say it even with all that, that that's a disadvantages. but they, they, i, i'm not sure i know that we stopped for forty's. what movement was with studies, you know, in the, in the, in the a global science on the fighting emissions when, when, when i'm safe. thank you very much. that is not my, nothing. my fate, doctor, i've done, i've been live, although i me thank you. and that's over the show. all continued condolences, of course, to those surviving the killing and gaza. meanwhile, and comp 20 h ones until tomorrow. here in dubai will be back with a brand new episode on saturday, and you'll then keep in touch my role as social media of installed, sensitive in your country, and had to add channel going on the ground tv. and then we'll come to watch, new and old episodes of going underground sees that the,

the western, the leads are in the state of panic. the world is crumbling before their eyes. they resort to fake news lies and deception that side of talking about the american back genocide in dallas. and we're told that my son because i'm at home with brandon for the trump, is a tyrant. the when i was just going to shave house to come and engagement because the trail when so many find themselves will support we choose to look so common ground the.