tv Cross Talk RT December 15, 2023 5:30am-6:00am EST
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last long were not for 3 years for us, for us to do to clear record, also known as the g. c. p. o, a promise sanctions will be $41.00 in return for the country. curtailing gets nuclear activities with washington's unilateral withdrawal cut all signatories off guard, prompting your own to retaliate by reversing gets obligations to the pack. as part of this measure, it resumed enriching uranium to 60 percent. well beyond the 3.67 percent cap sent out by video. they use the acronym for the nuclear deal. calling in the g. c, b o a. i told them on day one that it's not j. c, p o, a. but i think b o a meaning iran comprehensive plan of action. only iran was committed to the fact you must play your part in the bargain. the guys pulled out of the nuclear deal and didn't allow the signature is to remain committed. and now, in order for iran to return to its obligations,
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it's clear that they must remove the sink promptly within the framework of the g. c, b o a. we are reducing our commitments to the agreement. if they want to rejoin it, they must leave up to their obligations. no diplomacy seems to be able to force for tours towards us, which doesn't seem to be usability. all right, so do for me for now, but this to assess my colleagues were associate as in the,
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the, the hello and welcome to cross topler. all things are considered, i am peter labelle, the genocidal assault on gaza, has made itself felt in a variety of ways in terms of geo politics, the united states and his real stand together virtually alone and isolated the complex. cuz also seen the rise of extreme censorship. all across the western world criticizing israel and sign is and has become essentially a criminal act, so called western values are now meaningless. the to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess rein,
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mcgovern in raleigh. he is a former c. i a analyst in seattle, we have ramsey, my route. he is a power spinning officer and journalist and in new york we crossed to line on the as a legal and media analyst or a gentleman cross type roles in effect, that means you can jump in time and want. and i always appreciated pilot start with ray, and i'm in raleigh. we we have this phrase. it's often used. it's called the writing on the wall. and it comes from the book of david. and i would submit to all of you and our viewers that we see the writing on the wall. we see what is going on. no, it's up to you how you interpreted and react to it. but you will be judged by what we all see on the wall on it. i don't want to go into high perfectly here, but if you don't want to see the writing on the wall, then you're lying to yourself, which is the ultimate sin, right? or you're lying to yourself or you're
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a completely delusional and thinking that the us is completely all powerful, as it used to be. the king bosses are. and the hebrew scriptures as got really worried about things and there was high and the handwriting on the wall . i had quite a interpreter, you've got all these experts use, it's got all of their kind of and everything. and the zip code, can you tell me what this means? only daniel, could you so you're a travel, the king bosses your k number is about to go. so i think you're right in quoting that what we have here is the application both to ukraine and now to gaza as well. the hand right is on the wall is the only problem is that in those days, there were no nuclear weapons that you know, ramsey, 1st of all, thank you for getting up so early in the morning for us until by and he's an, he's an odd politician if that's an understatement, he admits that there is excessive indiscriminate bombing going on. these re lease
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or indiscriminately bombing causes physic ministration has admitted this, but it continues to fund it, so he is complicit. this is just as much of his war as it is nothing yahoo! and he has to own it because the history is going to judge him very, very badly. because the phrase jennifer genocide, joe doesn't come out of being here, ramsey. yeah, absolutely. i mean, we cause austin link, so it's an american president's to um, to southern countries. and so the horse, so we say this is a, this is bush is war. this is a, uh, obama is war. but to this is going to go down in history as vines as war. and in fact, the time conclusive, i think it's a lot more then complicit is directly involved in this war. it's remember that from the very, very 1st day you had the last some emptiness making. secretary of state,
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heading to tel aviv sitting in the war council meeting. declaring that this is that as well, how to know and mobilize and international support in order this was on behalf of israel. so that might because we're not trying to hide it. we don't really need to know much what's going on based on various of this be the self worth 10 of us. not only this is bill moore that they did not want to want to stop when the entire international community continue to hold for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire. declaring, you know, is it all by then? and his still were saying, no carry on. how much going to win is what l must emerge when are in this war because he understood it likely that and if the point is, will be as it be a wash something in the middle east. so that's why you can only continue to defend
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finance. and so for the war and so this day, well no matter how this ends, israel is lost, it is lost on so many different levels. and we will, i want to talk about the day after i find you quite odious the, that a is really me, americans are talking about the day after when they objectified palestinians still again. but let me, let me go to you. joe finally said, you said many times be sent recently that i am scientist. no, i know americans are not very well educated. this though they're better now than they've ever been before. and i'm very happy about that. but i know that's something that the is really political lead wants to be here. i don't think americans necessarily understand what that means. it is, is ramsey's already pointed out, the global south knows exactly what it means. again, complicit libel. the words here are never ever said by accident i,
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we've talked very tired. i'm a lawyer by profession in words. mean something. statutes means something. the particular expression of something. i mean, also, if i could say something before, i forget, you know, you always hear people say you never take antibiotics successively because what you're going to do is you're going to create antibiotic resistant. springs of new things you never thought were there. we have completely up to skated. we have ruined the terms. designers. it'd be semitism, apartheid genocide, ethnic cleansing, c international law, the un nobody knows anything. and one more thing i have been doing this, i have been a listen to this, a professional co talk to a person for 35 years and up till now. something happened number one was always think say whatever you want, but when you use the word is real in any so you better never be or, or, or, or verify or beer from the official narrative. that's number one. number 2, something happened, something is different now versus october the 7 years ago,
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but we had the into final one and divided 2 americans were like, all those, those crazy middle easterners look at the way they do it. i'm telling you they'll never be peace. there any way they'll figure it out. this change, i don't know what it is, the calculus of change. why does different social media? who knows? but what i'm saying is america in american politics or living in oblivion. if you watch fox news, you will swear you will say, what is the big deal. meanwhile, the rest of the world, i don't want to say cloud schwab but, but the great reset is upon us. but this reset, this put it this way, this pendulum is going to come back like a wrecking ball. everything is changed. now, whatever the narrative was 510 years ago, it's all over with. so get ready and brace yourself. right, you martin government for a long time, you actually brief president's of the united states. so you know, you were in the valley of the least as a work. how do we get to this point? okay, because it always hasn't been this way. i mean, when,
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when joe buying right after october, 7th, flew to israel to give a bear hug to the most popular man in the history of the state of israel. i mean, did these people have any strategy? they have any idea how they look to the rest of the world. i don't think they do. i don't think our president is fully accomplished. meant as having been said, this has been going on for a very long time. in the eighty's for example, one year sort of the federal notes in the colonial session that was going into the west bank and elsewhere. it was clearer, isabel, we had photos of it up that goes though, and yet no word would touch it, no one, even those with the integrity like separate char, george schultz, a clinton doctrine. now, after the attack on iraq, general brent scowcroft, who had been national security advisor, was good,
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a real big posters, head of the foreign intelligence board for younger bush. he showed something to the financial times and it was this ariel sharon has our president mesmerized. he has a president wrapped around his little finger, 2001 this your yahoo is in the living room. what else can set you? is? i just turn that video camera off, but yeah, that's all that you have. okay. then he says, you know where it goes, my god, the so easily moved. 80 percent deliver good support is it's, i'm sure, or a quote that you know. now will it be the same? it has been up till now. will sooner hits prevail or other sooner has i don't know if anyone prevail except those people surrounding guys
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a right now whether they will tolerate much more of this carnage much more of this genocide. and it is a text book case of genocide. yes. and this is the, the ultimate conclusion of design is something that's a bit, this is what so easily predictable, you know, ramsey, but obviously uh, being in the media like like a line. oh, i talked to a lot of people and i talked to no graduate student friend. and um, you know, i mentioned, he said, yeah, it's a so complicated it's, it's just such a longstanding, complex. and i said, well, no, it's actually not longstanding, and it can be solved. that's called the end of the occupation. and he said, what, occupation? this guy has a ph. d in history. this is while we're up against ramsey. right? and you know, why is this the case? why is it so that will educate to americans are completely uninformed of what is happening in palestine at the moment. well, you know, i've traveled, you know,
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across the global south, many, many countries are over 50 countries from africa to south america, so asian elsewhere. and yet the average person seems to be well educated. the highest on, even general impressions are out of sight, are far greater than the maximum of knowledge that americans have. and that's where the american media comes in. i mean, these guys are wandering around the clock 247. yet somehow you will watch cnn watch fox, you watching a m s a, b c. and you kind of leave with the impression that you know a lot less then you began with the challenging to know this is why there's a major change that is happening. let him know touched on that earlier, but yes, the major change that is happening is that you will have so many alternative platforms, venue, voices, influencers and we are in one way or another. using social is using american. we just want to know who we are. tacitly main stream media on palestine,
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the ones more types of catch up with us now. and that's really the major change that has happened in this particular one. that is, what else? again, there is no longer working is that is what was the problem again, that is actually being chatted well, it runs, if i can stay with you, i mean the 1st of all everyone am i want my audience knowing my guess. and now that is, i know so much about the conflict and palestine because of our guest ramsey, i read everything to the ever writes every time it comes out very often an anti war dot com, which is i'm very thankful for that. but, you know, one of the thinks it's very important to, to point out is that there is a change of consciousness right now, because it's really hot, right? it's, it's really sloppy now, or maybe i just began to notice, go ahead. it's does look sloppy now, but the theory that i read strongly in is that it's always been sloppy. it just, we just did not exist on the other side of the composition. whatever the is what
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you just said, this is why we can be the bible. this is why we bombed the baptist hospital and ship up. this is why we do the things we do. well, if nobody is there to say you're wrong and to expose you after the set, the videos that you produce, pay, what are the lies, and what are the tools are, will you can you're going to get to get away with slightly trying to determine some of the information, right? the have to jump in here. we have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on palestine. stay with archie. the watching is why is why in this country, what if i give borrowed money in the store? and this should have been a short order for now. i'm not going to stay less. so could i scan when i am, what i could catch at your desktop session on the font is national
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liam noon. sean new york is when you bought a new born, you sit on what's the, the, the near the, the welcome that's across stuff. were all things are considered. i'm futile. bill, this is the home addition you mind you were discussing palestine the okay, let's go back to long island, new york line or as you well know, i've been out of united states for a long time. and so maybe you can explain something that it has happened since i left. apparently there's rapid anti semitism in the united states, which i, when i left, i wasn't aware that that was the case. so what happened other it's been
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a long time. i'm going to agree with that, but you know, i turn on the news and it looks like, you know, they're in the countries been taken over by a named a baseless nazis. go ahead. well, it's funny you say that and the selective use of the term nazi, if you were to mention that, for example, in ukraine, if i were to talk about the as a battalion or the right sector. and the difference is one of these terms at large . um, i don't know if you gentlemen have been following this absolute distraction, but as you know in some of our ivy league schools, some of the presidents of the school have said that before we provide the blanket prohibition again, speech at a university, there has to be something in terms called context that we have other members of congress as, as are you saying that genocide is because i know this is in genocide, it's the use of the term genocide. so what's happening is, as, as, as i mentioned before, the word anti semitism and anti zionism and anti israel have become somehow
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amalgamated into there's been a globule of confusion. and because it's been you so much like in our country, the word racism, everything is racism, sexism is another, is a. so in the meantime, you have this world right now and let me just say, just one thing. the trick that people need to do, and i've been studying communication and observations and post code very particular, russo full be a grumbling, but you name it. you stick to a particular narrative. and one of the things you say is simply this. this could be sam handle very simply. once we get rid of an anomaly from us, now it stop right there. what does that even mean or we will do this so long as the palestinians do not like to much. so the question though is, how do we tell somebody whom to elect? first of all, we say you have to have a watch it though we say you can have an election, but you can elect these people. so what's happening? most americans, i'm sorry to say, and this may, i may be the ultimate uh, ugly american,
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but there seems to be this almost an infantile is in this manner he in less than right. good or bad evil, best. and that's it. don't complicate me. just tell me who's a bad guy, cuz i've gotta move on and i've got to watch sports or whatever it is. so when it comes to confusion, this is the epicenter of confusion, right? jump it. i think lionel is completely right, is, is zionism and anti semitism had been cut inflated by act of congress together. and the worst thing is that even look good reporters and they're really all a home back before iraq, jonathan land, they and warren struggle with knight ridder, they got it right on weapons of mass destruction. land is worker for writers. mobile is work better for the wash, the wall street journal. this spinning propaganda about the russian is losing
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90 percent of the troops shooting the cover. and i mean, you know, even the good guys need to earn a living, i guess. but i don't excuse that. certainly they can come with us and tell ultras. yeah, and there's a, there are a few heroes out there. um, but uh, you know, i, i want to, i want to, i don't want to be so pessimistic. and so, hardened by the fact that people that are challenging this and it's causing a lot of turbulence here. but you know, ramsey, you know, one of the things we just want to make very clear to our viewers of this a mouse has to be destroyed. well, on the face of it, that can be debated, obviously, but it's, it's a code for ethnic cleansing and the mainstream media and the political leads are 100 percent behind. you know, we just want to get rid of them us. well, the only way you're going to do that is completely cleanse and commit a genocide against 2200000 people and it is in train. you know? oh, that's not possible. you're exactly know what's happening. everyone is happening.
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the boss has to be destroyed. indeed, is it code peter, and we need to decode it? why didn't have time, you know, emphasized, for example, from the very beginning to this day, how math is isis? how math is a high the, what do you mean by that? is that there was only one way to deal with the terrorist devices in india, walker and syria. and that's to eradicate them to push them out. people, one buses, the car and, and elsewhere and just pushed out of the country somewhere. and that doesn't, we don't know, we don't care whether you go. he thought that you could actually create that scenario. how mazda and there's some warranties in god. but it's different from us, like it was. he is a national rehabilitation movement. that's a great, we didn't define boundaries, they don't want to clearly fate. we don't want to do over other countries. they want delivery the own countries and they called us typically make references to international law is unbelievable. how often,
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how much makes references to international law. and how lead the absent the elements of law and international law firm is what you political discourse. this is dangerous because the americans want. so the french for some reason important. so along with the drum, as the british and the everybody got excited about, the idea will be right. if you can come up with the larger meaning of that is that we don't you why the good time us, everybody will support some us any particular context of social context of how much . therefore we need to destroy the palestinian people in garza pain. as simple. i don't a line well, and that is that's a message that is like, is not being received in, in america, you know, ramsey is absolutely right line or is it, it's really quite interesting if you, if you watch international media, even state media around the world, there is very, very often references to international law because that is what keeps the countries protection when you grow up in america,
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in some degree in the u. k. um we know that she was only can be knew we mentioned when it works for you. other than that, but we're right, we're virtuous people, so we're going to do what we're going to do. and it's very interesting is that people have resistance moments. it's one of the only tools that they have against the powerful is international law. and obviously with your own eyes, you can watch the it was a bunch of video coming out of that. so it is like that is an evaluation of, of the international law, international humanitarian. well, i don't know what is, well, you know was funny if, if, if you held up, if you gave the scenarios to students law students, international law, and you just cover to be said country a did the following or hold up an x ray, ahold of a lab result to do what is this pregnant, dead, broken leg. that's the way most people think of of law is if you do this, it is a, it is a violation. let me go back and i'm glad we brought up 911. i learned these wonderful images, for example,
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the better to fight them there than here. oh them oh. and the smoking gun could be a could be a mushroom cloud. oh them. and they also said there hasn't been a $911.00 since $911.00. there hasn't been a world what. what does that mean? there hasn't been a world where jews is what we're doing. and what happens is when you're very good at semantics and you play this and you act like terrorism is identifiable like evil, evil. we're going to stop able to access of evil and you use terrorism as to how much is a place or, or anybody is placed. and also one more thing relative to the people, ask japan, what they thought about, you know, the no, le gay. and they wouldn't have a different version of the dropping of, with atomic bombs versus us. we load, we applaud those are our troops, and we never can put ourselves in the position of somebody else because very luckily, the only be we've had on our soul now. soil rather not what is 911 and that is in no way enable us to really comment on what people around the world are,
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are feeling and existing every single day. we have been lucky by virtue of our democracy, of our geography, which is another thing americans know nothing about that where anything is. yeah that you know, right. i leave, i guess, really, prime minister said the, you know, on october 7th, israel experience multiple 9 eleven's been okay. fine. that's basically his line was saying like maybe that's one of your interpretations, but i wouldn't be tort in any journalist worth their salt would say. so how many? 911, how does the people of god that experience since that day see, they expect this was published in the us are not people, it's not a place, it's just a problem. it's not on, you know, and it is like someone else solve it will, but we'll pay for it. there's so much cowardice when it comes to that, you know, had all to my life i'm, it was already mentioned, you know, you didn't have to tip toe around. no speak true. this truth will give you justice,
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right? i think that there are bright lights here, and that is the fact that they use in this country. they all have these, i phone, see, and iphones are the latest technology and they can cause revolutions. ok. they care about the telegraph, where you back a century ago. the think about the tape recorder where all of a was taping is sherman, asking them all a mental radson if that what is revolution? now we have the i phones, young people in our country are being affected by the photos by the videos coming out of a gas i. now, i think that there is a reason for a whole lot of those kids. they can't go on forever. and my only my only fear is that the surrounding country is around the palestine. as you are the arab countries and also turkey and iran. how long can you hold back their own populations?
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many of whom are palestinians, how long could they escape it forever? and not go and stop the carnage. stop the jealous, i don't know. the answer to that arrives. he probably does, but i'd like to hear his views on that. yeah, i'm seeing, you know, you know, we have through western tab goes anthony, blinking is talking about with the day after and he's going to consult with next. you know about the day after. well, when did tell us, because it'd be given the chance to say this is what we want. that's never there. and maybe you have the, uh, the occupation and then that can give breathing room and, and variety, and discussion and new ones. but they will never be back if the company, if the occupation continues a lots of a lot of policies with so, i mean, is this kind of a piece sort of thinking about the middle east and about the world. in fact, what worked in, in the early ninety's would work in 2003 would work in gaza today. but it's not
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true at all. what will happen in the day after is going to be determined by the people goes on by the palestinian people themselves, as would be determined by the other nations that are why is it in sort of attitude with god? so i mean people off with often and they showed where are the art nations, how come to not standing up for their brother in laws and the, as a is actually the all, if you don't what's happening in, in live in on what's happening you up. what's happening in the human and else where they are, there is a view, middle east identity that is being formulated. and this is going to hunt the american administration for a very long time. but the after in gaza is, or would it be shaped by the fighting issues idea by the steps, past missile over 4000000 people involved. and why is the thing that is happening outside the school, the american control? and how does 5 or 2 out of the middle east? right gentlemen, i have to jump in here. we've run out of time. fascinating discussion. what i think
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